Rfid's; cause of cancer in pets

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Don't know if this is common knowledge here, but just in case, as I hadn't considered this before I saw below article. It would make sense that animals with implanted chips trotting around in fields of wireless radiation would attract a lot of stress around the implanted area. It seems from the article that dogs are given implants without notice too, it sites treatment at free clinics not giving notice of the operation, perhaps they are also given in 'bonus' with vaccinations?.

In Denmark if you want a legal animal (not cats yet, I think ) it has to be chipped, and to boot we are one the countries in the world with best wireless coverage, also rural. Even the stables are Wifi'ed now. :(

_http://www.antichips.com/press-releases/chipped-pets.html
 
Sometimes you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. I think it is inevitable that there will be mistakes when performing the implants, and that it is essential to reduce household EMF radiation (from Wi-Fi, cell phones, and cordless phones in particular) for the sake of everyone inside.

It seems to me like the decision to implant should be made according to risk vs. benefit, and not according to whether something might possibly go wrong.
 
Your pet can be identified if lost or stolen. Also, the chip can be linked to medical records databases.

Did you guys see Kate Beckinsale's nifty implanted cell phone in the new Total Recall movie? You grandchildren will gripe at you for not getting one.

We laughed at my grandmother in 1965 when she refused to get a Social Security Number because it was "The Mark of the Beast". We got her one anyway and she cashed the checks, but she claimed unto her death that she didn't have a Number. :evil:
 
Charlie Prime said:
Your pet can be identified if lost or stolen. Also, the chip can be linked to medical records databases.
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I considered that it could be used to track down, if the animal went for a walkabout, but thought that to be a tad too controlling to be a benefit, though surely understandable that one would want to find ones loved one, especially if it's unable to find home or stolen. The medical record argument just seems a too much like a convenience, but I can see instances for it being useful. So yeah context of the specific situation comes to mind as Megan hinted at, though I don't think I would chip my possible future dog for the above reasons.

Charlie Prime said:
Did you guys see Kate Beckinsale's nifty implanted cell phone in the new Total Recall movie? You grandchildren will gripe at you for not getting one.
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If I ever had kids, I'd be sure to let them know about the dangers of wireless in regards to the the body, also fill them in on the entropic nature of transhumanism and gadget mania.
 
I had to think longggg and hard on this one. I had both Lilly and Grith chipped years ago, and my rescue kitty was already chipped (owner surrender because she catches mice and serves them up as breakfast in bed) ...however, I decided not to chip the latest addition to our family.

There's a LOT more information available now than there was 10 years ago, and I'm not liking what I'm reading. The idea of vets, animal control, etc. being able to identify my baby if we're ever separated is VERY enticing, but too many health risks have come, and are still coming, to light for my liking.

I settled on a good quality collar with a great latch, and had a brass plate engraved with:

Reward If Found
Vet Fees Paid
my phone #


Then riveted it to the collar flat so it doesn't dangle (and get caught on something)

I'm hoping the word "Reward" will even motivate the most selfish azzhat who wouldn't otherwise care about a lost (or stolen) dog?
 
I would never chip a pet. All I have now is a cat and although he's housebroke, he never leaves the yard. The very idea of it just creeps me out and likely health consequences, seals it for me.

I think you made the right decision, Guardian. The collar with the riveted tag is a good idea, but it's not too likely the little fellow will stray too far from ya.
 
Keep in mind also that all the arguments in favour of chipping pets can (and are) used in favour of chipping your kids. It's a slippery slope. I say "no" to chipping any living thing.
 
dugdeep said:
Keep in mind also that all the arguments in favour of chipping pets can (and are) used in favour of chipping your kids. It's a slippery slope. I say "no" to chipping any living thing.
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Yeah, after reading everything I could find, I have to agree. The percentage of animals showing ill effects is VERY small, but still too many, and there's so much we don't know about them. Originally, I thought the benefits outweighed the risks, mainly because Grith was a river dog, we kayaked together, and he could have been swept away, or something like that....but now I think the collar will do the job, at least I hope?

I'm also going to license my newest friend, and rivet that to his collar too. It's not mandatory where I live, but the law requires the Sheriff, Animal Control, etc. to preserve and protect your "licensed property" until "it" can be returned to you.
 
Guardian said:
I had to think longggg and hard on this one. I had both Lilly and Grith chipped years ago, and my rescue kitty was already chipped (owner surrender because she catches mice and serves them up as breakfast in bed) ...however, I decided not to chip the latest addition to our family.

There's a LOT more information available now than there was 10 years ago, and I'm not liking what I'm reading. The idea of vets, animal control, etc. being able to identify my baby if we're ever separated is VERY enticing, but too many health risks have come, and are still coming, to light for my liking.
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That's very good news - I wasn't sure if you were going to chip the little fella or not after the last time this topic came up on the forum and you were fairly "pro-chip". I'm really glad - one less thing to worry about and, yes, I think your collar tag will work wonders and the license too. :)
 
You know, I think that a collar tag makes wonder because it's the simpliest thing for all. If you find a pet with a collar with a phone number you know immediatly what to do. You just have to pick your phone to call at anytime, you have not to get the pet to the vet to see if there is a chip !
 
anart said:
That's very good news - I wasn't sure if you were going to chip the little fella or not after the last time this topic came up on the forum and you were fairly "pro-chip". I'm really glad - one less thing to worry about and, yes, I think your collar tag will work wonders and the license too. :)
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Yeah, I was, but I read all the data, and decided to exercise my female prerogative ;)

If I was still paddling, his risk of getting seriously lost (and getting his collar ripped off) would be MUCH higher...but I'm not. My life is very different now, so I think the collar should be enough protection.
 
When I adopted my little love Bella, a poodle something mix, I tried to prevent her from being chipped, but it seems to be the law in NYC that if you adopt a dog from a shelter, she has to be chipped to be released to her new home.

quote from parallel:

If I ever had kids, I'd be sure to let them know about the dangers of wireless in regards to the the body, also fill them in on the entropic nature of transhumanism and gadget mania.
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If you ever have kids, parallel, you'll learn soon enough how difficult it is to raise them the way you feel best without a strong network that supports your values. Everything in American culture undermines the parents.
 
webglider said:
When I adopted my little love Bella, a poodle something mix, I tried to prevent her from being chipped, but it seems to be the law in NYC that if you adopt a dog from a shelter, she has to be chipped to be released to her new home.
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A simple EM pulse generator would deactivate the chip, but I wonder if it would lessen the risk of a tumor?
 
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