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Hi, I'm new here. I speak French actually so my English is poor...
I want to point out that the article about Rudolf Steiner needs a major upgrade: The author of this article says that Steiner does not clearly talk about the "feeding the moon stuff" nor about "the wave". Actually, he talked A LOT about those!
In some of his conferences and books, he talks about the eighth sphere. He points out that A.P. Sinnett's account of the eighth sphere is grossly misleading. In Sinnett's book Esoteric budhism, he identifies the moon with the eighth sphere, that is the place were all evil ends. So, Sinnett identifies the maker of the moon, that is Yahve or Jehova, as the king of the eighth sphere. That is totally wrong, according to Rudolf Steiner.
Yes, Yahve is the maker of the moon. Yavhe "made" the moon in order to take away from the earth the extra-mineralizing influence coming from the moon. So Yahve would have separated the moon from the earth, and we now have this satellite in orbit around the earth. This would have happened in the time of the division of the sexes.
This action of Yahve was a counterforce, a counter attack against Lucifer, who was playing diabolos, wanting to separate two sexes in order to start a war of the sexes. We would have been too mineralised and too individualized if Yahve wouldn't have separated the moon from the earth. With the moon is connected the heredity and the natural impulse of reproduction, the body at large, and so the inferior self. Lucifer,the light bearer, had an influence on our astral body, in our soul, were he initiated egoism in our desires. Lucifer also had an influence on our head, Yahve on our body.
In the beginning of the earth, the fallen angel Lucifer and the fallen archangel Ahriman (that is Satan), were active on earth. Lucifer took Imaginations from the preceding stage, preserving backward, retarded forces. Ahriman, linked with the earth and mineralization, materialized these imaginations that Lucifer kept in existence. We then obtain densified imaginations, subtle form of matter, but it is still matter, only it is highly refined and electric. This is spectral matter, not yet spirit, not yet matter, not dead nor alive. The eight sphere is literally made up of this substance. Anthroposophists such as Prokofieff think that the ufo phenomenon is a manifestation of this eighth sphere. Someone who subjects or even LISTENS with interest to mediums or spiritists, visionaries and hallucinated sibyls is slowly loosing his freewill into this eight sphere. The psychotic person is already lost in this eighth sphere. Quarrelsome people are intimately linked with the eighth sphere. All evil will end there, and this will splits up with the moon in a far distant future (this is the meaning of that "Women clothed with the sun" with stepping foot on a serpent and the moon. Revelation of John).
Steiner talks a lot about this eight sphere in the series of lectures named "The occult movements of the nineteenth century". He speaks there of Blavatsky knowing Sinnett's error, knowing that Sinnett was totally wrong when he identified the eighth sphere with the moon. According to Steiner, Blavatsky was disappointed about that and tried to make up for this huge mistake in the Secret Doctrine. But the harm was done and all occultists were lead into a falsehood, or at least a half-truth.
This is a point that I investigated a lot and I must say that the definition of the eighth sphere as given by LKJ and the glossary of Cassiopaea is deeply disappointing. I regret that people like you haven't read more about the works of Rudolf Steiner. But we don't know everything in advance, don't we? We have to learn and to learn means to check out again and again if our knowledge is on the right track or slightly off track.
If you want to learn more about Steiner's perception of the eighth sphere, I recommend you to read:
"The occult movements of the nineteenth century" (Steiner)
La reincarnation sans l'esprit: histoire d'une contre-verite (Irene Diet)
Michael and the two-horned beast (Bernard Nesfield-Cookson)
The East in the light of the West (Sergei O. Prokofieff)
You might also like to check "From Jundi Shapur to Silicon Valley", by the anthroposophist Francis Paul Emberson, about the incarnation of Ahriman (Satan) in computers and our future which looks a lot like The Matrix, with big spider webs across the earth, crawling with spiders of artificial intelligence. The use of fallen etheric forces (electricity, magnetism and the mysterious "third force" involving nuclear powers) inspired by/inhabiting ahrimanic elementals (lizzies) wich are also our own shadow-self, doppelganger, the ahrimanic Double, which comes from the inner earth and want to take over or planet enslaving us.
I also strongly suggest that you read about the ways to save these beings in the cosmic order, as pointed by Nicolaas de Jong in his article "Ufos: The search for Truth, Reality and tools for their redemption", available on the internet. Also: "Ufos: preimminent phenomena of our time" by Patrick Steensma. This will also introduce you to Steiner's christian esoteric occultism. You may also like to read "The tree of life and the holy grail", by Sylvia Francke and Thomas Cawthorne, for an anthroposophical point of view on the Davinci code and holy blood/holy grail phenomenon as a trap for seekers of esoteric knowledge (and the search for illegitimate immortality by using geometrical/geographical etheric currents in France, as in the case of Abbe Sauni�re in Rennes-Le-Chateau. The "22 November/17 January", The illicit incarnating/excarnating door of The Serpent, ex-13th sign, will enlighten your comprehension of this forbidden knowledge/technique).
Finally, Steiner does not talk about a "Wave", but indicates that the Christ is coming back in the etheric world since 1933. It means that more and more people will experience a new form of clairvoyance, for example, thing's and people's aura will be seen. The new way of clairvoyance, though, is not a return to the ancient passive, atavistic, mediumnic and visionary kind of clairvoyance. This new clairvoyance cannot rely on ouija tables because in this way the hand is moved by elemental beings taking their knowledge from the beings on the moon, who once were with us as teachers in Lumeria and Atlantis. When Laura was talking with "Cassiopaeans", she cold only know the given answer by putting the letters one after the other, making a significant statement. This is still an unconscious way and must be avoided. Elemental beings communicating this way (though mediums) are infinitely more clever that whatever we can grasp nor imagine. They can misguide us into half-truths like "the Christ event is not very significant", "the moon is the eight sphere", and so on. The new clairvoyance is described by Jesaiah Ben Aharon, in "The new experience of the supersensible", like a renewed "vision of Paul on Damascus". We will have inspiring and moving revelations wide awake. These are not visions in the old sense. The new clairvoyance must be developed by a strengthening of our grounding in clear perception of the outside world, combined to a healthy development in the areas of thinking, feeling and willing. The michaelic yoga is not inspire-expire but perceive in-think out. This way, imaginations are formed and the refresh our dead knowledge of the world, enabling us to join Christ in a conscious experience of nature and the cycle of year, for example.
The development of the new clairvoyance is hindered by spirits of hindrances such as Lucifer and Ahriman (not to mention the asuras and Sorat, the Beast, which are far superior in evil). Lucifer takes us back into old time religion and ecstatic, subjective mysticism. Ahriman, Mephistopheles or Satan, wants to make us unbelievers in spirit and believers in science, matter and progress. Half-baked oriental mysticism illegitimately joined with modern physics (like Fritjof Capra's works The Tao of Physics) only produces a subtler form of materialism, a super-materialism, in the vein of spiritism and mediumnism. Lucifer and Ahriman join their effort against a healthy experience of Christ in the etheric world by diverting the new clairvoyant faculties into the old kind of clairvoyance (vision, mediumship, spiritism) or into new techniques of manipulating consciousness by means of material means: drugs, electromagnetism, physical sound waves, etc. Spiritual materialism is one of the traps that must be recognised and avoided by all occultist students. The major stuff that we give to the eighth sphere is exactly that materialistic (or spiritual-materialist) imaginative stuff. These materialist (or spiritual-materialist) thoughts (thought-forms) give form, in the eighth sphere, to all fantasies coming from the imagination-activity, morever the most science-fictionesque or grotesque thought-forms. These become "probable realities". The spiritual worlds must not be confused with the spectre nature of the substance of the eighth sphere, which takes the forms of our materialist (or spiritual-materialist) thought-forms. All that is linked with our head (where Ahriman dwells) and our bellies (where Lucifer dwells), is a door opening to this dead world of the eighth sphere. We must instead create moral and spiritual thought-forms that will become the spiritual ground, the body of the future earth-man, called Jupiter state by Steiner (the New Jerusalem).
According to Nicolaas de Jong (2001), "lizzies" (reptilians) are fallen elementals of an ahrimanic (satanic) nature; we must change our thinking in order to reconnect in a healthy way to the elemental kingdom, so that when - in the future - elementals attain the stage of humanhood, they will have at their disposition an adequate spiritual body, made up of the imaginative body that we will have created by our thinking, and not a coarse and dead body which they will use to torment us and parasite us (that which they already do and do more and more in the future). Our though forms, in relation to the elemental world (which is used against us by fallen angelic hierarchies), will become living forms in the future - our little "creatures" - and will be on their way to attain human egohood. Right now and forever, he have a great responsibility in their fall and so have a special role, a moral duty, in their spiritualization process - that is their "coming back into the light".
The substance of the eighth sphere is lost for ever so beware that your innermost self does not gets broken in pieces and that some of its parts get flushed in it.
Thank you all.
Yours truly
David V.
Hi, I'm new here. I speak French actually so my English is poor...
I want to point out that the article about Rudolf Steiner needs a major upgrade: The author of this article says that Steiner does not clearly talk about the "feeding the moon stuff" nor about "the wave". Actually, he talked A LOT about those!
In some of his conferences and books, he talks about the eighth sphere. He points out that A.P. Sinnett's account of the eighth sphere is grossly misleading. In Sinnett's book Esoteric budhism, he identifies the moon with the eighth sphere, that is the place were all evil ends. So, Sinnett identifies the maker of the moon, that is Yahve or Jehova, as the king of the eighth sphere. That is totally wrong, according to Rudolf Steiner.
Yes, Yahve is the maker of the moon. Yavhe "made" the moon in order to take away from the earth the extra-mineralizing influence coming from the moon. So Yahve would have separated the moon from the earth, and we now have this satellite in orbit around the earth. This would have happened in the time of the division of the sexes.
This action of Yahve was a counterforce, a counter attack against Lucifer, who was playing diabolos, wanting to separate two sexes in order to start a war of the sexes. We would have been too mineralised and too individualized if Yahve wouldn't have separated the moon from the earth. With the moon is connected the heredity and the natural impulse of reproduction, the body at large, and so the inferior self. Lucifer,the light bearer, had an influence on our astral body, in our soul, were he initiated egoism in our desires. Lucifer also had an influence on our head, Yahve on our body.
In the beginning of the earth, the fallen angel Lucifer and the fallen archangel Ahriman (that is Satan), were active on earth. Lucifer took Imaginations from the preceding stage, preserving backward, retarded forces. Ahriman, linked with the earth and mineralization, materialized these imaginations that Lucifer kept in existence. We then obtain densified imaginations, subtle form of matter, but it is still matter, only it is highly refined and electric. This is spectral matter, not yet spirit, not yet matter, not dead nor alive. The eight sphere is literally made up of this substance. Anthroposophists such as Prokofieff think that the ufo phenomenon is a manifestation of this eighth sphere. Someone who subjects or even LISTENS with interest to mediums or spiritists, visionaries and hallucinated sibyls is slowly loosing his freewill into this eight sphere. The psychotic person is already lost in this eighth sphere. Quarrelsome people are intimately linked with the eighth sphere. All evil will end there, and this will splits up with the moon in a far distant future (this is the meaning of that "Women clothed with the sun" with stepping foot on a serpent and the moon. Revelation of John).
Steiner talks a lot about this eight sphere in the series of lectures named "The occult movements of the nineteenth century". He speaks there of Blavatsky knowing Sinnett's error, knowing that Sinnett was totally wrong when he identified the eighth sphere with the moon. According to Steiner, Blavatsky was disappointed about that and tried to make up for this huge mistake in the Secret Doctrine. But the harm was done and all occultists were lead into a falsehood, or at least a half-truth.
This is a point that I investigated a lot and I must say that the definition of the eighth sphere as given by LKJ and the glossary of Cassiopaea is deeply disappointing. I regret that people like you haven't read more about the works of Rudolf Steiner. But we don't know everything in advance, don't we? We have to learn and to learn means to check out again and again if our knowledge is on the right track or slightly off track.
If you want to learn more about Steiner's perception of the eighth sphere, I recommend you to read:
"The occult movements of the nineteenth century" (Steiner)
La reincarnation sans l'esprit: histoire d'une contre-verite (Irene Diet)
Michael and the two-horned beast (Bernard Nesfield-Cookson)
The East in the light of the West (Sergei O. Prokofieff)
You might also like to check "From Jundi Shapur to Silicon Valley", by the anthroposophist Francis Paul Emberson, about the incarnation of Ahriman (Satan) in computers and our future which looks a lot like The Matrix, with big spider webs across the earth, crawling with spiders of artificial intelligence. The use of fallen etheric forces (electricity, magnetism and the mysterious "third force" involving nuclear powers) inspired by/inhabiting ahrimanic elementals (lizzies) wich are also our own shadow-self, doppelganger, the ahrimanic Double, which comes from the inner earth and want to take over or planet enslaving us.
I also strongly suggest that you read about the ways to save these beings in the cosmic order, as pointed by Nicolaas de Jong in his article "Ufos: The search for Truth, Reality and tools for their redemption", available on the internet. Also: "Ufos: preimminent phenomena of our time" by Patrick Steensma. This will also introduce you to Steiner's christian esoteric occultism. You may also like to read "The tree of life and the holy grail", by Sylvia Francke and Thomas Cawthorne, for an anthroposophical point of view on the Davinci code and holy blood/holy grail phenomenon as a trap for seekers of esoteric knowledge (and the search for illegitimate immortality by using geometrical/geographical etheric currents in France, as in the case of Abbe Sauni�re in Rennes-Le-Chateau. The "22 November/17 January", The illicit incarnating/excarnating door of The Serpent, ex-13th sign, will enlighten your comprehension of this forbidden knowledge/technique).
Finally, Steiner does not talk about a "Wave", but indicates that the Christ is coming back in the etheric world since 1933. It means that more and more people will experience a new form of clairvoyance, for example, thing's and people's aura will be seen. The new way of clairvoyance, though, is not a return to the ancient passive, atavistic, mediumnic and visionary kind of clairvoyance. This new clairvoyance cannot rely on ouija tables because in this way the hand is moved by elemental beings taking their knowledge from the beings on the moon, who once were with us as teachers in Lumeria and Atlantis. When Laura was talking with "Cassiopaeans", she cold only know the given answer by putting the letters one after the other, making a significant statement. This is still an unconscious way and must be avoided. Elemental beings communicating this way (though mediums) are infinitely more clever that whatever we can grasp nor imagine. They can misguide us into half-truths like "the Christ event is not very significant", "the moon is the eight sphere", and so on. The new clairvoyance is described by Jesaiah Ben Aharon, in "The new experience of the supersensible", like a renewed "vision of Paul on Damascus". We will have inspiring and moving revelations wide awake. These are not visions in the old sense. The new clairvoyance must be developed by a strengthening of our grounding in clear perception of the outside world, combined to a healthy development in the areas of thinking, feeling and willing. The michaelic yoga is not inspire-expire but perceive in-think out. This way, imaginations are formed and the refresh our dead knowledge of the world, enabling us to join Christ in a conscious experience of nature and the cycle of year, for example.
The development of the new clairvoyance is hindered by spirits of hindrances such as Lucifer and Ahriman (not to mention the asuras and Sorat, the Beast, which are far superior in evil). Lucifer takes us back into old time religion and ecstatic, subjective mysticism. Ahriman, Mephistopheles or Satan, wants to make us unbelievers in spirit and believers in science, matter and progress. Half-baked oriental mysticism illegitimately joined with modern physics (like Fritjof Capra's works The Tao of Physics) only produces a subtler form of materialism, a super-materialism, in the vein of spiritism and mediumnism. Lucifer and Ahriman join their effort against a healthy experience of Christ in the etheric world by diverting the new clairvoyant faculties into the old kind of clairvoyance (vision, mediumship, spiritism) or into new techniques of manipulating consciousness by means of material means: drugs, electromagnetism, physical sound waves, etc. Spiritual materialism is one of the traps that must be recognised and avoided by all occultist students. The major stuff that we give to the eighth sphere is exactly that materialistic (or spiritual-materialist) imaginative stuff. These materialist (or spiritual-materialist) thoughts (thought-forms) give form, in the eighth sphere, to all fantasies coming from the imagination-activity, morever the most science-fictionesque or grotesque thought-forms. These become "probable realities". The spiritual worlds must not be confused with the spectre nature of the substance of the eighth sphere, which takes the forms of our materialist (or spiritual-materialist) thought-forms. All that is linked with our head (where Ahriman dwells) and our bellies (where Lucifer dwells), is a door opening to this dead world of the eighth sphere. We must instead create moral and spiritual thought-forms that will become the spiritual ground, the body of the future earth-man, called Jupiter state by Steiner (the New Jerusalem).
According to Nicolaas de Jong (2001), "lizzies" (reptilians) are fallen elementals of an ahrimanic (satanic) nature; we must change our thinking in order to reconnect in a healthy way to the elemental kingdom, so that when - in the future - elementals attain the stage of humanhood, they will have at their disposition an adequate spiritual body, made up of the imaginative body that we will have created by our thinking, and not a coarse and dead body which they will use to torment us and parasite us (that which they already do and do more and more in the future). Our though forms, in relation to the elemental world (which is used against us by fallen angelic hierarchies), will become living forms in the future - our little "creatures" - and will be on their way to attain human egohood. Right now and forever, he have a great responsibility in their fall and so have a special role, a moral duty, in their spiritualization process - that is their "coming back into the light".
The substance of the eighth sphere is lost for ever so beware that your innermost self does not gets broken in pieces and that some of its parts get flushed in it.
Thank you all.
Yours truly
David V.