Russell Brand: From Actor and Entertainer to... Truth-teller and Enemy of the State?

Fluffy said:
And more than this, I seen him in Sydney (oz) in November 2012 doing a stand up comedy show and the whole two hours was a comic take on the powers that run the world, enlightenment, knowledge, hyper-dimensional notions and self awareness... His info may have been a little distorted and I could see that so much of it was flying right over the audience heads and made him look a fair bit whacky but kudos to him for using his voice through his comical talent to attempt to touch and inspire people to think outside the box they're in... Must admit he lost me a bit when he said the queen is a lizard (David Icke told him apparently) I'm not going to comment on that though...
He's a very talented and well heard man and might be a good idea to be able to get him on board the C train somehow.

He is definitely deluded to the idea that we can ALL just access that 'humanitarian' part of ourselves, when we clearly know that some dont have it. That is a concern that I have with him. Some of his jokes push my boundaries too and are downright offensive. However he may appeal to some main streamers and it may wake a few up to seek knowledge elsewhere. As for having him on board the C train......mmmmmm......
 
French Marigold said:
As for having him on board the C train......mmmmmm......

Everyone who comes to this group has issues. Some work on those issues. Some don't, or can't. Bottom line is that all are given the opportunity, otherwise there'd be no one here :)
 
m said:
French Marigold said:
As for having him on board the C train......mmmmmm......

Everyone who comes to this group has issues. Some work on those issues. Some don't, or can't. Bottom line is that all are given the opportunity, otherwise there'd be no one here :)

Your are right M, we all have issues and this Forum is such valuable ground to safely work through them, I have found this to be true for myself dealing with my own issues. That was probably a bit judgemental of me to comment they way I did about Russell Brand.
 
I have to say I've always been really torn and unsure regarding this man. I suppose I just find his style a little cringe-worthy and contrary to many, completely unfunny. I think his eccentric and sarcastic delivery can sometimes create the effect of trivialising some issues. Perhaps that's just a personal taste thing though.

Having said that, he does have a large following both in the US and UK and he seems to be stepping up his game as has been seen recently with his attack on Sean Hannity and Fox news which is to be commended. It's quite rare also for someone of his 'status' to take such a definitive stance against certain elements of the Pathocracy but still can't help thinking that he knows his limits and sits on the fence to an extent. What I'd really like to see is Russell raise his game even higher and speak out seriously about 911. Now that would be something....
 
I agree that his humour can be too offensive, especially in his early career and with regard to his apparent promiscuity

However his article on SOTT about Robin Williams certainly shows he is articulate and capable of presenting a balanced view I think
 
There is no doubt that he is a very articulate and intelligent person but I think he might be a mechanism / agent of inter-passivity. Charities and large scale events like live aid and comic relief perform a similar function where you make a token effort and then carry on regardless.

There is little substance to his solutions and at one point he admits that he does care about serious issues but having a laugh is his main priority.
 
Gimpy said:
I don't like Russell Brand.

Then he turns around and says things like this: http://www.sott.net/article/283679-Russell-Brand-Robin-Williams-divine-madness-will-no-longer-disrupt-the-sadness-of-the-world

Which means, either a broken clock is right twice a day, or he's just an entertainer doing what he can to get by...my guess is all of it could be true.

I think, in relation to the article above which is a very well written article, Brand is able to touch on the very things that were afflicting Robing Williams because he, like many comedians, has also dealt with those issues. That may be projection on my part, but it's what I felt after reading it. He's an eloquent writer and in this case, was able to channel his personal struggles, along with his feelings surrounding Williams' suicide, into pointing out how our ill our society is right now. The man is aware, and he is smart. He's proven that, but he's also human, which means he has faults too. I personally like the guy, but I don't put him on a pedestal.
 
Heimdallr said:
Gimpy said:
I don't like Russell Brand.

Then he turns around and says things like this: http://www.sott.net/article/283679-Russell-Brand-Robin-Williams-divine-madness-will-no-longer-disrupt-the-sadness-of-the-world

Which means, either a broken clock is right twice a day, or he's just an entertainer doing what he can to get by...my guess is all of it could be true.

I think, in relation to the article above which is a very well written article, Brand is able to touch on the very things that were afflicting Robing Williams because he, like many comedians, has also dealt with those issues. That may be projection on my part, but it's what I felt after reading it. He's an eloquent writer and in this case, was able to channel his personal struggles, along with his feelings surrounding Williams' suicide, into pointing out how our ill our society is right now. The man is aware, and he is smart. He's proven that, but he's also human, which means he has faults too. I personally like the guy, but I don't put him on a pedestal.

I did like his performance in 'Despicable Me'. He played a mad scientist. ;) I'm not convinced his awareness is that deep, though that is just my own bias peeking out.
 
Gimpy said:
I did like his performance in 'Despicable Me'. He played a mad scientist. ;) I'm not convinced his awareness is that deep, though that is just my own bias peeking out.

He appears to be helpful to some extent or other, at least so far doesn't appear to be yet another useful idiot based on what I've seen. Whatever awareness he has, he appears to be using it to his ability to do so.

By comparison no one needs to be very aware to see the madness happening in the world. Yet regardless of what people see it's not enough to make them speak out, so many don't say a word for one reason or another. Brand doesn't appear to necessarily be afraid of what his outspokenness might do to his career. So in that sense he's strong and in my perspective he is respectable for that effort.

I personally don't see any reason to dislike the guy outright. Maybe he'll bring some courage to others.
 
Heimdallr said:
Gimpy said:
I don't like Russell Brand.

Then he turns around and says things like this: http://www.sott.net/article/283679-Russell-Brand-Robin-Williams-divine-madness-will-no-longer-disrupt-the-sadness-of-the-world

Which means, either a broken clock is right twice a day, or he's just an entertainer doing what he can to get by...my guess is all of it could be true.

I think, in relation to the article above which is a very well written article, Brand is able to touch on the very things that were afflicting Robing Williams because he, like many comedians, has also dealt with those issues. That may be projection on my part, but it's what I felt after reading it. He's an eloquent writer and in this case, was able to channel his personal struggles, along with his feelings surrounding Williams' suicide, into pointing out how our ill our society is right now. The man is aware, and he is smart. He's proven that, but he's also human, which means he has faults too. I personally like the guy, but I don't put him on a pedestal.

I watched the youtube video today of Russell Brand talking about the death of Robin Williams. I thought it was well done.
 
Russell has his faults (like using sexual related humor), as we all do, and for the most part I like him and what he is doing. The other night, while I was watching his video making fun of Bill O'Reilly, I laughed so hard that my wife wondered what's going on. I'm a pretty "serious" guy, and I seldom laugh. But seeing how Russell made "them taste their own medicine", lifted up my spirit and made me laugh, which I haven't done in a long time. I also liked how he tapped in to the feelings people have about Robin Williams, and why his suicide makes us extra sad (nostalgia, remembering the time of innocence).

Looking at the number of followers and views he has, it's clear that his "street talk approach" definitely gains attention.
 
Russell definitely has some gaps in his awareness, but he speaks out against what he see's. So I say:

:rockon:

What do we think of following Russell's tweets, and when the opportunity presents itself sharing psychopathy related info and books?
 
I found the article pleasantly and surprisingly refreshing after, I think, tarring Brand with a rather stereotypical brush from finding his comic past slightly irritating in its style. I think I did not like the way he spoke, it seemed chaotic and crude - just goes to show how first impressions stick, and how ignorant they can be.
He is certainly insightful in his own way and very articulate in the way he expresses his views.
 
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