Russia Begins Operations in Syria: End Game for the US Empire?

RedFox said:
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fwiw this reminded me of something I read ages ago:

Truth Is Public Property
[..]
This is, in fact, the key to everything: the Media. The first thing that has to be done before anything else can be done is to take back the media. The media is the wall between the elite pathocrats and the public. It is the tool used to control and manipulate. In Nazi Germany, Communist Russia, and other totalitarian states down through history, the control of information was/is the means of control of the people. After all, the masses of people that are needed to support any kind of movement are in that part of the bell curve that indicates that they are just “average” and “followers” and “want to be left alone” and can only be moved by moving “en masse.” They are the ones that must be reached. And that can only be done via mass media. We do not own the mass media. I think that less than half of the people in the U.S., and a smaller percentage than that in other places, get their news via the internet. And we all know how much disinformation is on the net. Now, let’s back up and get some perspective here. People need to really think about who’s running the U.S. (and other countries on the planet), and get it firmly in mind that it is big business: oil companies and the arms industry. Now, think of the term: “RUTHLESS MEN”. Ponder it long and carefully. Even if you can’t believe that clinically diagnosible psychopaths are in power, just consider that big businesses are invariably headed by RUTHLESS MEN. The term “Establishment” refers to all those wealthy people across the country who own most of the country. And, as the news has recently reported, it is a very small percentage of the total population. Some people will do anything for money and to protect their interests and their wealth; that is usually how they get to be wealthy in the first place. In my opinion, many of the “industrial barons” of American history were criminals. They are extremists, radical, and most often use religion to justify this extremism and the oppression of others.

It is par for the course for such radicals to label anyone a little toward the center, or even in the center, as “Leftists”. In a country where the largest majority are in the center, neither Left nor Right, they are the ones that are hurt the most.
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When you think about it, where does any private group or individual get off thinking that they “own” information, facts, data about events that happen in our world that affect everyone? The Truth is public property: it belongs to all.

After thinking about this for some time, I have come to the realization that all public media should be publicly owned and overseen by public commissions that are not in any way related to politics – neither elected nor appointed, but selected by random lottery from pools of qualified citizens. Only in this way can we guarantee to ourselves the support that is needed to accomplish everything else that must be done to clean up the mess that Ruthless, Greedy Men have made of our planet.

But in order to even approach that goal peacefully, we need to find ways to bypass the currently existing media – to become our own media.

That is the task before us.

My understanding is that things like BREXIT and the rise of Trump are a vote for change (among non authoritarian people), a vote against the establishment. The establishment seeks to control through directing peoples anger (Arab colour revolutions, Russia is evil etc), and the only choice left to people is to 'vote' for something they still don't want - they can't see any other option.
I don't know if that could be people to aim the message at? Housewives, retired people, college kids. All wanting a better world and not knowing how to get there. People who will protest and defend local or community matters.
Is their any way a distributed 'revolution' (rather than centralized and thus corruptible) could happen, a little like Occupy Wall Street but for the every day person? An every day guide to navigating pathology and finding empowerment/hope though local networking?
Maybe that's too much wishful thinking.
I know what you mean, but am reminded that we are also not here to change the world or at least not force it on people. We provide the tools and the information as objectively as we can but we are not here to violate peoples' free will. There is no free lunch, and informing oneself and educating oneself about the situation that we find ourselves in requires work. Something that the machine abhores.

In this day and age, where you can find out information at your fingertips, there is no real excuse for not knowing if the thirst is there. But the thirst is not there for most people and in a way how could it be otherwise. If 6% are psychopaths, 15% enablers, 25% authoritarian followers and throw in the OP's then how could we expect a mass uprising. Yes, a number of those overlap, but when you then take into account that the average mental age due to dumbing down is perhaps 12 (no link found to substantiate it, only from memory) and an emotional age of children, then perhaps we are wishing for too much expecting big changes. Additional there are no Elders in our society or role models and the very few that there are, such as Putin, are vilified.

So the word expecting might sometimes get in our way AND get us down. Perhaps non-anticipation and keeping our eyes and ears open while we clean our own machines and keep "adding" objective SEEING to the SYSTEM and networking about it, is the way forward.
Fwiw.
 
JEEP said:
It seems like the attack on the Syrian army by US forces was especially vicious due to the white phosphorous bombs - an Israeli trademark. Russia has been [falsely?] accused of using these types of bombs on Aleppo:

As Saudi Arabia continues its war with Yemen, new evidence suggests that the kingdom has relied on white phosphorus munitions, likely supplied by the United States government.

Unauthorized Purposes: Is US Sending Saudis White Phosphorus for Yemen Attacks?
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160920/1045524731/us-saudi-white-phosphorus.html

Throughout the bloody military campaign in Yemen, Riyadh has been accused of continuous human rights violations over its indiscriminate bombing of civilian areas. The United Nations estimates that roughly 10,000 people have been killed in 18 months of fighting. Approximately 3,800 of those casualties are believed to be civilians.

New evidence on social media suggests that Saudi Arabia may also be using white phosphorus munitions in these attacks, a highly incendiary material that the United States acknowledges it has sold to the kingdom in the past.

While white phosphorus is not banned under international wartime law, there are strict guidelines for its use. For military operations, the chemical can be used in open areas as a smoke screen, but is not to be used as a weapon, given its incendiary nature, which burns human skin to the bone.


Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov will take part in a ministerial meeting of the International Syria Support Group on Tuesday on the sidelines of the 71st session of UN General Assembly in New York, a source in the Russian delegation said.

Lavrov to Participate in ISSG Meeting in New York on Tuesday - Source
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160920/1045491244/lavrov-participate-issg-meeting.html

On Tuesday, Lavrov is also expected to take part "at a BRICS ministerial meeting and to hold bilateral talks with the foreign ministers of the United Kingdom, Iraq, Cuba, Costa Rica, president of Cyprus, Secretary General of the Arab League and the chairman of the 71st session of the UN General Assembly,"
according to the source.

The ISSG, co-chaired by Moscow and Washington, was formed in November 2015, shortly after the beginning of the Syria peace talks, as a panel of countries seeking to end bloodshed in Syria.


Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, went to a meeting of the UN General Assembly on foot due to the traffic jams caused by the passing presidential motorcade of Barack Obama.

On Foot, On Time: Lavrov Walks to UN Headquarters Due to Obama's Motorcade
https://sputniknews.com/politics/20160920/1045523708/sergei-lavrov-walks-un.html

The announcement of this appeared on the official Twitter of the Russian Foreign Ministry.

#Захарова: Манхэттен перекрыли под Б.Обаму. C.Лавров не стал ждать в пробке и пошел в ООН пешком.

10:28 AM - 20 Sep 2016

"​Manhattan was blocked for B.Obama. S.Lavrov did not wait in jam and went to UN on foot."

Earlier, it was reported that the US president got late for his speech at the UN, and during his absence the President of Chad, Idriss Deby, took to the podium.


Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov stressed at ISSG meeting that fulfillment of US commitments on separation of opposition from terrorists in Syria was a priority, the ministry said in a statement.

Lavrov Stresses Importance of US Fulfillment of Commitments on Syria
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160920/1045526770/lavrov-usa-syria-commitment.html

Ahead of the ISSG gathering, Lavrov held a separate meeting with US Secretary of State John Kerry.

"Lavrov emphasized that the United States' fulfillment of its obligations to differentiate the moderate opposition groups and terrorists [in Syria] was a priority, as well as a more active influence of regional sides on the the radical groups," the statement read.


The 71st UN General Assembly kicked off in New York and US President Barack Obama has delivered his eighth and final speech as leader. His remarks are considered to be legacy-defining, since it was his final presidential UN General Assembly address.

What’s Missing From Obama's UN General Assembly 'Swan Song'?
https://sputniknews.com/world/20160920/1045525423/un-general-assembly-obama.html

Several blocks around the UN headquarters in New York were surrounded by police and armed special agents as world leaders gathered for the 71st General Assembly meeting. Just a few days ago bomb blasts in New York's Chelsea district and in the Seaside Park neighborhood in New Jersey caused havoc in the region. On Monday police arrested the suspected bomber, a 28-year-old man of Afghan descent named Ahmad Khan Rahami. Now 15 years after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, and eight years after the Democratic Senator from Illinois Barack Obama became President, tensions in the Big Apple, and in the US in general, are high.

Traffic jams caused by VIP arrivals and increased security measures were so dire that Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov was forced to leave his car and walk the remainder of the way to the UN building,
following morning talks with US counterpart Secretary of State John Kerry.

President Obama is one of the few people who was not forced to submit to multiple security screenings on the way to the UN, and there is no such thing as traffic for his motorcade, but he was nonetheless 30 minutes late for his address.

[...] Outgoing two-term US President Barack Obama ended his final UN General Assembly address describing ways in which "all of us can be co-workers with God."

After eight years in office, Obama's sentiment of being God's Co-Workers is a long way away from his original Change We Can Believe In.


The Russian military unveiled on Tuesday video footage of a UN humanitarian aid convoy that came under attack in Syria, which shows a militants' pickup vehicle carrying a large-caliber mortar as part of the convoy.

Russian MoD Releases Footage of Attacked UN Aid Convoy in Syria's Aleppo (VIDEO)
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160920/1045521488/aleppo-un-convoy.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUMJ2vm4vgU

The video shows that the UN aid convoy was accompanied by a terrorists' off-road vehicle with a large-caliber mortar launcher, the Russian Defense Ministry spokesman said.

"The examination of the video footage made via drones of the movement of the humanitarian convoy in areas controlled by militants in the province of Aleppo has revealed new details. The video clearly shows how terrorists are redeploying a pickup with a large-caliber mortar on it using the convoy as a cover," Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said. He said that "it is unclear yet who accompanies whom: the [pickup with a] mortar accompanies the convoy with "White Helmets" volunteers or vise versa. And most importantly, where did the mortar disappear near the destination point of the convoy and what was the target of its fire during the convoy's stop and unloading?" On Monday, the United Nations’ Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) said that the aid convoy crossed the conflict line in the Big Orem area of the Syrian city of Aleppo.

Later in the day, UN officials stated that the convoy had been shelled and there were casualties.

Earlier in the day, the Russian Defense Ministry said that neither Russian, not Syria aircraft carried out strikes against the UN aid convoy, emphasizing that theexamination of video footage reveals no signs of an ammunition strikes on the convoy and it seems to be set on fire. The ministry emphasized that the perpetrator of the fire, as well as his goal may be known by members of the "White Helmets" organization that allegedly has connection to al-Nusra Front terrorists who have "accidentally" been at the right time and in the right place with cameras.

According to the official, al-Nusra Front terrorist group carried out an artillery attack on the southwestern suburb of Aleppo using multiple launch rocket systems.


Around 20 civilians were killed in an attack on a humanitarian aid convoy in Syria’s Aleppo, the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (IFRC) said Tuesday.

Attack on Syria's Aleppo Aid Convoy Killed at Least 20 Civilians - IFRC
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160920/1045502204/aleppo-aid-convoy.html

On Monday, the United Nations’ Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) said that the aid convoy crossed the conflict line in the Big Orem area of the Syrian city of Aleppo. Later in the day, UN officials stated that the convoy had been shelled and there were casualties.

The UN said that it is premature to name the party responsible for the attack.

Around twenty civilians and one SARC staff member were killed, as they were unloading trucks carrying vital humanitarian aid. Much of the aid was destroyed. The attack deprives thousands of civilians of much-needed food and medical assistance," IFRC said in a statement.

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Aeneas said:
I know what you mean, but am reminded that we are also not here to change the world or at least not force it on people. We provide the tools and the information as objectively as we can but we are not here to violate peoples' free will. There is no free lunch, and informing oneself and educating oneself about the situation that we find ourselves in requires work. Something that the machine abhores.

In this day and age, where you can find out information at your fingertips, there is no real excuse for not knowing if the thirst is there. But the thirst is not there for most people and in a way how could it be otherwise. If 6% are psychopaths, 15% enablers, 25% authoritarian followers and throw in the OP's then how could we expect a mass uprising. Yes, a number of those overlap, but when you then take into account that the average mental age due to dumbing down is perhaps 12 (no link found to substantiate it, only from memory) and an emotional age of children, then perhaps we are wishing for too much expecting big changes. Additional there are no Elders in our society or role models and the very few that there are, such as Putin, are vilified.

So the word expecting might sometimes get in our way AND get us down. Perhaps non-anticipation and keeping our eyes and ears open while we clean our own machines and keep "adding" objective SEEING to the SYSTEM and networking about it, is the way forward.
Fwiw.

Aeneas,

Your words are so close to what I have been thinking that I just thought I would "network" to let you know I am seeing the situation almost identically. I guess two views are better than one but I guess we could benefit from any other refinements others may be able to add. It really doesn't seem to give us much to hope for other than "seeing" what the reality is but at least we are trying to see it. :huh:
 
I'm assuming these sanctions by the U.S., against a sub group of al-Nusra, Jund al-Aqsa, might have been one of the conditions/terms for the Ceasefire and why the U.S. refused to release the Doc. publically?

The United States has introduced sanctions against Jund al-Aqsa (JAA) terrorist group, which primarily operates in Idlib and Hama provinces in Northern Syria, the US Department of State announced in a release on Tuesday.

US Sanctions al-Nusra Front Subunit Operating in Northern Syria - DoS
https://sputniknews.com/us/20160920/1045506865/nusra-us-sanctions.html

The State Department noted that terrorists formed JAA in 2012 as a subunit of al-Nusra Front terrorist group, currently known as Jabhat Fatah al-Sham.

"As a result of this designation, all property subject to US jurisdiction in which JAA has any interest is blocked and US persons are generally prohibited from engaging in any transactions with JAA," the release stated.


Syrian government troops supported by the Russian Aerospace Forces have destroyed a leading unit of the Jabhat Fatah Al-Sham group in Aleppo.

Syrian Army Destroys Leading al-Nusra Unit in Aleppo
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160920/1045491008/syrian-army-destroys-nusra-unit.html

Syrian government troops supported by the Russian Aerospace Forces have destroyed a leading unit of the Jabhat Fatah Al-Sham group, formerly known as al-Nusra Front, in Aleppo, the Russian center for Syrian reconciliation said in statement Tuesday.

According to the statement, the Syrian government troops on Tuesday night repelled an offensive by Jabhat Fatah Al-Sham militants near military schools and 1070 quarter in Aleppo.

"During the counterattack, the Syrian forces supported by the Russian Aerospace Forces have destroyed the leading Jabhat Fatah Al-Sham unit, including four tanks, three infantry combat vehicles, nine pickup truck with heavy machine guns and up to 100 militants," the statement reads.

Al-Nusra Front terrorists launched on Monday a large-scale offensive on Syrian army positions in south-western outskirts of Aleppo City following a massive artillery shelling.


Daesh militants have executed three residents of Syria's Raqqa, which is a terrorists' stronghold in the war torn country.

Daesh Militants Execute 3 Syria's Raqqa Residents
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160921/1045533961/daesh-executes-raqqa-citizens.html

Islamic State (Daesh) militants have executed three residents of Syria's Raqqa, which is a terrorists' stronghold in the war torn country, a spokesperson for the local militia forces said.

According to the spokesperson, these people were accused of helping local residents to flee Raqqa and go to the northern part of the Raqqa province, which is not under Daesh control.


President of Kyrgyzstan Almazbek Atambayev has been hospitalized in one of Turkey's hospitals on the Aegean coast, local media reported Tuesday.

Kyrgyz President Hospitalized in Turkey - Reports
https://sputniknews.com/asia/20160920/1045496606/kyrgyz-president-hospitalized.html

Atambayev's press service said earlier in the day the head of state was on a short-term vacation for medical examinations in Turkey and planned to get back to work on October 1.

Atambayev's plane landed in Istanbul en route to the UN General Assembly in New York late Monday and the Central Asian leader was hospitalized, according to sources cited by Turkey's Sozcu newspaper. The outlet added that he was scheduled to undergo a detailed medical examination for potential heart problems and would be monitored by doctors.

The Haberler news portal, meanwhile, said Atambayev stayed at the Sheraton hotel in the resort town of Cesme west of Izmir.


Kyrgyzstan's refusal to allow the United States deploy its Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS) aircraft in the country's Bishkek Manas International Airport was one of the reasons behind the subsequent 2005 Tulip Revolution, former Kyrgyz President Askar Akayev said.

Kyrgyzstan's Refusal to Allow US AWACS 'One of the Reasons' of Tulip Revolution
https://sputniknews.com/asia/20160916/1045356341/kyrgyzstan-us-awacs-caused-tulip-revolution.html

Akayev served as Kyrgyzstan's president in 1990-2005. He was ousted from power in 2005 by the Tulip Revolution and currently resides in Russia.

"Department of State representatives suggested in 2004 to allow AWACS in the Manas airport. A special assistant to the secretary [of state] arrived to discuss this operation…Of course we could not allow this. Our answer was strictly negative. It was not negotiable…That was one of the reasons they planned the Tulip Revolution in Kyrgyzstan," Akayev said in an interview with RIA Novosti on Thursday.

AWACS, also known as Boeing E-3 Sentry, are aircraft used by NATO countries, including the United States, to conduct all-weather surveillance, command, control and communications.

The US military's Transit Center at Manas was established in 2001 near Kyrgyzytan's capital Bishkek to support military operations and deliver personnel and equipment to Afghanistan. It was closed and handed to Kyrgyzstan in 2014 on the demand of Kyrgyz authorities.


The US military base in Kyrgyzstan, Transit Center at Manas, could have well be used for the transportation of heroin from Afghanistan, former president of Kyrgyzstan Askar Akayev said.

Ex-Kyrgyz President: US Base in Kyrgyzstan Possibly Used For Heroin Trafficking
https://sputniknews.com/us/20160916/1045355364/ex-kyrgyz-president-us-base-heroin-trafficking.html

Akayev said that the coalition forces engaged in operations in Afghanistan could have been involved in the drug-smuggling from the troubled country.

"This base had always served its initial purpose – to deploy troops, cargo to supply the coalition forces in Afghanistan. We don't know what they worked out on the way back. Probably, they transported heroin… They could have done anything on their way back…," Akayev told RIA Novosti on Thursday.

He assumed that the base leadership was aware of the drug trafficking and were themselves involved in it.

The former president of Kyrgyzstan also stated that it was a common practice for the United States to compensate the expenses on military operations through drug trade.

"It is widely known. In Latin America, for example, all their operations… Nobody financed them, they reimbursed through drug trafficking. Why then exclude it in Afghanistan?" Akayev told RIA Novosti.


Venezuelan ambassador to the United Nations Rafael Ramirez said that Venezuela has demonstrated its opposition at the United Nations General Assembly against the ouster of former Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff in what it has condemned as a destabilizing "coup".

Venezuela Stages UN Walk-Out on Temer to Protest Brazilian ‘Coup’
https://sputniknews.com/latam/20160921/1045534139/venezuela-un-walkout-brazil-temer-coup.html

Venezuela has demonstrated its opposition at the United Nations General Assembly against the ouster of former Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff in what it has condemned as a destabilizing "coup", Venezuelan ambassador to the United Nations Rafael Ramirez told Sputnik.

"We believe that Senator [Michel] Temer is an illegitimate president and for that reason this morning we withdrew from the Hall of the General Assembly because we, along with Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Cuba, Ecuador, Bolivia, want to raise our concern about this situation in Brazil," Ramirez said Tuesday on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly.

During the Tuesday morning speech by new Brazilian President Michel Temer, the Venezuelan delegation to the UN staged a walk-out to protest the ouster of Rousseff. "We believe they suffered a coup d’etat against President Dilma Rousseff," Ramirez explained.
 
Thanks for keeping people with updates!

And with this closing article discussing Brazil, and the UN General Assembly today:

last article on Brazil said:
"We believe that Senator [Michel] Temer is an illegitimate president and for that reason this morning we withdrew from the Hall of the General Assembly because we, along with Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Cuba, Ecuador, Bolivia, want to raise our concern about this situation in Brazil," Ramirez said Tuesday on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly.

Good one, Ramirez!
 
Russia's Presidential spokesman said on Tuesday that hopes for reestablishment of ceasefire in Syria is very little now.

Peskov: Moscow Sees 'Little Hope' for Restoring Ceasefire in Syria
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950630000429

"We are expressing serious concerns here," Dmitry Peskov said commenting on the offensive launched by Fatah al-Sham Front (formerly known as al-Nusra Front) on Monday, TASS reported.

The group had apparently used this week to fill their inventories of ammunition and to regroup, he added.

Peskov said the condition for renewing the ceasefire in Syria is very simple. "There is the need to cease the hostilities, there is the need for the terrorists to stop attacking Syria’s armed forces."

"And of course, it would be good if our American colleagues did not bomb the Syrians accidentally," he added.

"The main thing we can state is an extremely tense situation," Peskov said.

"We know that the Syrian armed forces, the only units that observed a ceasefire throughout the whole week, had to retaliate to the offensive," Peskov noted.

"We understand that of course such actions put the whole process of Syrian settlement at threat," he admitted.

Peskov declined to comment on the shelling of a humanitarian convoy in Syria. "I don’t consider it as possible and Russian military is currently checking information about this incident," he explained.

He said he hoped the Russian military "will get concrete first-hand information and will be able to make a relevant statement".

The spokesman went on to say that Moscow regrets the United States has so far failed to separate terrorists and militant in Syria.

"Regrettably, we have to state that in the elapsed period, more than one week, our US counterparts have failed to separate terrorists and the so-called moderate opposition," Peskov said.

At the same time he refrained from giving an unambiguous answer to the question if truce in Syria has come to an end.

"I cannot answer your question unequivocally if the truce in Syria is over. The point is there is a certain provision in the agreements that our US counterparts are reluctant to make public by any means. I can just say there is a certain deadline for our US counterparts to separate terrorists from the moderate opposition," Peskov said.

"For the time being we just state that this obligation of our US counterparts has not been fulfilled," Peskov said.


Secretary of State John Kerry says Russia has been warned not to interfere in the US presidential election, claiming that Moscow is trying but does not have the ability.

Russia warned not to meddle in US presidential election: Kerry
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/09/20/485511/US-Russia-Clinton-Trump-Kerry-hack

“We have made it crystal clear to Russia to what the consequences might be,” Kerry told CNN in an interview that was aired on Monday. “The president, myself, we've had conversations, we know what's happening, we are being vigilant.”

“I do not believe Russia will have the ability to effect this election and we are going to be absolutely vigilant about it,” Kerry said. "The president has made that clear and Russia is warned.”

The remarks fall in line with a series of warnings by American officials over the past months, against what they call Moscow’s attempts to influence the November vote.


Syria says it does not require the advice of UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon after the outgoing official accuses the Syrian government of killing civilians.

Syria reacts to Ban Ki-moon’s accusations over civilian deaths
http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2016/09/21/485649/syria-un-ban-condemn

The secretary general "has deviated from its role in finding just solutions for international problems," said a statement released by the Syria's Foreign Ministry late on Tuesday.

Ban made the accusations during his farewell address to the General Assembly at UN headquarters in New York on Tuesday.

The Syrian statement noted that the address deviated “extremely far from the rules of the UN charter,” while stressing that the international body had not achieved anything towards resolving any conflicts during Ban’s mandate.

It went on to state that the people of Syria hold the right to self-determination and “do not need Ban’s advice.”

During his address, Ban said all parties to the conflict in Syria have killed civilians, “but that none more so than the government of Syria.”

He also slammed a recent attack on a UN aid convoy in Syria’s Aleppo as a "sickening, savage and apparently deliberate attack."

On Monday, the United Nations said at least 18 trucks in a 31-vehicle convoy were destroyed as they came under attack while en route to deliver humanitarian aid to the hard-to-reach town of Urum al-Kubra.


Syrian President Bashar Assad warned on Tuesday that economic sanctions against the country did more damage than militant groups.

Assad: Sanctions Imposed on Syria More Damaging than Militants
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950630000642

The current security situation and terrorist crimes are probably not so dangerous as the unjust economic embargo imposed on Syria," Assad’s office quoted him on Twitter as saying, Rossiya Segodnya reported.

Syria has been subject to US economic sanctions for decades on allegations that it sponsored terrorism, although Washington scaled them down after the 2011 uprising against Assad to allow support to militant groups.

Washington keeps restrictions in place for US investment into Syria and has frozen the Syrian government's property in the United States.

It has also taken steps to isolate Syrian business internationally and prevent it from selling crude oil abroad.


A senior Syrian military source referred to the recorded phone talks which show coordination between the ISIL and the US-led coalition, and said the terrorist group has not fired any anti-aircraft missiles against the US fighter jets.

Senior Military Source Accuses US of Open Cooperation with ISIL
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950630000364

The source said that the Takfiri terrorists have several times targeted the Syrian army warplanes and helicopters while they have launched no attacks on the US-led coalition aircraft.

Meantime, analysts believe that the coalition's airstrikes against the Syrian army position will possibly weaken the agreements between the US and Russia on Syria and will exacerbate the crisis in the Middle-East.

They say that given the US preconditions for any agreement with Russia, including President Assad's removal from power, it is obvious that Moscow will not accept it and therefore, the US secret support for the terrorists will continue.


A US P-8A Poseidon spy plane was spotted again flying off the coast of Lebanon and Syria, near the Russian base in Tartus.

US Reconnaissance Plane Spotted again Near Hmeimim Airbase
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950630000198

The P-8A Poseidon aircraft flew close to Syria’s Mediterranean coast where Russia’s naval task force operates. It was the fourth time in the past few weeks that a US spy plane has been spotted near the Russian base in Hmeimim.

Hmeimim military airport, Southeast of the city of Lattakia, is Russia’s strategic center of operations against the ISIL and other terrorist groups.

According to reports, the P-8A Poseidon aircraft, designed and built for anti-submarine warfare and intelligence gathering, took off from the Mediterranean island of Sigonella in Sicily. The aircraft, with tail number 168761 then flew over Syria’s coast for one and a half hours in close proximity to the Russian airbase and logistics facility located at Tartus port, South of Lattakia.

Observers believe that the US spy planes have recently increased their flights over Syria to gather intelligence on the Syrian army and the Russian forces' moves in the region.

According to reports, on August 30, September 2 and September 17, the P-8A Poseidon spy plane was also spotted flying toward the vicinity of the Russian airbase.


The Russian reconciliation center reports militants from the Jebhat al-Nusra Front have launched a full-scale offensive against Syrian army in Aleppo.

Aleppo shelling interrupts Russian Defense Ministry's online video broadcast
http://tass.com/world/900900

The intense shelling in the southwest outskirt of Aleppo has interrupted an online video broadcast at the Russian Defense Ministry website, the Russian Defense Ministry reported on Monday.

"Today, militants shelled a building in the territory of the Al-Assad Military Academy were a web camera, which is monitoring the implementation of the ceasefire regime in southwestern Aleppo, was installed," the Russian Defense Ministry said.

None of Russian servicemen who ensured the web-camera’s operation were hurt but the video camera and the transmission equipment were knocked out of service.

Syrian army repels attack The Russian reconciliation center said that Syrian army units have repelled an attack of Jabhat al-Nusra terrorist group militants on the southwestern outskirts of Aleppo.

"During further counterattack, Syrian troops, supported by Russia’s Aerospace Forces, routed a Jabhat al-Nusra terrorist advance detachment, destroying 4 tanks, 3 infantry combat vehicles, 9 pickups with heavy machineguns and up to 100 militants," the statement said.

Up to 40 militants, four infantry combat vehicles and seven pickups with large-caliber machine guns were destroyed near Syria’s al-Shkeif neighborhood.

"As a result of stubborn battles early on September 20 the Syrian government forces backed by Russia’s Aerospace Forces repelled an attack of terrorists near the al-Shkeif neighborhood in the northern outskirt and regained control over the southern outskirt of the al-Shkeif neighborhood," the statement said.

Jebhat al-Nusra continues shellings The Russian reconciliation center reported 53 violations of ceasefire. Most of them were reported from the province of Aleppo (26). Eight ceasefire violations were reported from Damascus, five - from Hama, two - from Daraa, five - from Latakia, and seven - from Homs.
 
I just saw this from Fars News, so one should take it with a grain of salt.
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30 Israeli, Foreign Intelligence Officers Killed in Russia's Caliber Missile Attack in Aleppo
TEHRAN (FNA)- The Russian warships stationed in Syria's coastal waters targeted and destroyed a foreign military operations room, killing over two dozen Israeli and western intelligence officers.

"The Russian warships fired three Caliber missiles at the foreign officers' coordination operations room in Dar Ezza region in the Western part of Aleppo near Sam'an mountain, killing 30 Israeli and western officers," the Arabic-language service of the Russian Sputnik news agency quoted battlefield source in Aleppo as saying on Wednesday.

The operations room was located in the Western part of Aleppo province in the middle of sky-high Sam'an mountain and old caves. The region is deep into a chain of mountains.

Several US, Turkish, Saudi, Qatari and British officers were also killed along with the Israeli officers. The foreign officers who were killed in the Aleppo operations room were directing the terrorists' attacks in Aleppo and Idlib.

Earlier in September, the Syrian army units launched a preemptive strike on the terrorists of the so-called Aleppo Operations Room in their gathering centers near Castello road in the Northern areas of Aleppo and Mallah farms, foiling their plots to attack the region's supply route, a source said.

The source said that the army's artillery units attacked the terrorists' gathering centers near Castello and Mallah farms in Zahra Abdo Rabbah, Kafar Hamra and Hurayatyn which killed and wounded dozens of militants.

Also, the Syrian air force attacked the terrorists' supply route in Northern Aleppo towards Hayyan and Adnan as well as the supply roads in Western Aleppo towards the North and smashed the terrorists' convoys in al-Aratab, Urom Kobra and Ma'ara al-Artiq which thwarted the terrorists' plots and forced many of them flee towards the Turkish borders.

Informed media sources disclosed earlier that the Syrian army has continued its advances in the Southern part of Aleppo, and regained control over several strategic areas in the town of Khan Touman.

"A number of key warehouses of Khan Touman are now under the Syrian army's control," the Arabic-language media quoted an unnamed informed source as saying.

The source noted that the Syrian air force and army's artillery units also targeted the gathering centers and fortifications of the terrorists in Khan Touman.

Well, if true, and the US complains, then Russia can always first ask: "what were these officers doing there? Then they can say "oops, it was a mistake" or they can say "Well, you know, it is a dynamic operating environment" :lol:

Thinking aloud then if it is true: There is no reason to think that Russia was not aware of this operation room before or the high value targets there, but chose to not act until now.

It is also likely that even if it is true, we will hear very little about it from any sources. The Russians are not likely to brag about it, but it will be a signal given to those behind the scenes and responsible for the attack on the Syrian Army in Deir Ezzor, that the gloves are off.

Edit: I just looked at Sputnik in Arabic and put it into a translator, and found no mention of the above, though this was meant to have been the source. So either Fars made it up, it got pulled from Sputnik (Arabic) or something else happened.
 
Aeneas said:
I just saw this from Fars News, so one should take it with a grain of salt.
_http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950631000607

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Edit: I just looked at Sputnik in Arabic and put it into a translator, and found no mention of the above, though this was meant to have been the source. So either Fars made it up, it got pulled from Sputnik (Arabic) or something else happened.

Well, supposedly, Syria shot down one of Israel's jets recently, but Israel denied it.

Also, supposedly, Killary was in a plane crash being where she ought not to be doing god-knows-what, and that is the source of her brain damage. Or so it is alleged. Supposed to be a wikileaks revelation.
 
[quote author= Aeneas]It is also likely that even if it is true, we will hear very little about it from any sources. The Russians are not likely to brag about it, but it will be a signal given to those behind the scenes and responsible for the attack on the Syrian Army in Deir Ezzor, that the gloves are off.[/quote]

Yeah, impossible to say if it happened but such info never happens through officials, only shady sources. And The West/ Gulf and Israel cannot afford to openly conform this, raises to many questions and damaging answers.

Anyhow, striking back in such a way is a safe and strong way to retaliate. Not only that, a strong response concerning recent provocations is necessary. Makes them help to remember that Russia sees everything inside Syria and can bomb them everywhere. Any provocation or strikes on SAA forces results in coalition casualties. It should make them think twice.
 
_https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160921/1045551904/syria-russia-us-air-strike.html
'Stab in the Back': What Awaits Syria After American 'Friendly' Fire

[...]
"It's irrelevant to hope the American side [will adopt a] reasonable stance, so the deterioration of Russian-US ties in the future is inevitable. Turkey is not interested in the endless war on its borders, which is why Ankara may prove more realistic and useful. Turkey and Russia are really interested in the joint struggle against a common threat, "according to him.

In this regard, the September 17 air strike on Syrian forces may be described as a reconnaissance by fire against Russia, which has to develop a new military and political line on Syria, Khrolenko noted, adding that he does not rule out that more such "hard lessons" may occur in the future. He also quoted the Turkish newspaper Milli Gazete as claiming that the death toll from the air strike allegedly included at least three Russian intelligence officers, who interrogated captured members of the Daesh terrorist group Daesh at a reconnaissance point. It was revealed during the interrogations that Daesh terrorists were collaborating with Washington, which is why the reconnaissance point was bombed out.

First If the information is confirmed, Russia's reaction will hardly be limited to initiating an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council, according to Khrolenko. On the other side, the destruction of a "humanitarian convoy" in Syria on September 20 and Washington's indignation regarding the matter just confirms "the high temperature of mutual distrust," he noted. Khrolenko concluded the opinion piece by pointing out that "it is difficult to define a military and political leadership in the region; the United States is clearly not fit for this role."
So in the Turkish newspaper they claim that at least 3 Russian intelligence officers were killed in Deir Ezzor. This makes it just a tad more likely that the report of a Russian missile strike targeting 30 Foreign intelligence officers is true. As a way of saying: If you go after our intelligence officers, then we will respond in kind.
 
See below, UN didn't took the US word on it that Russia, Syria or Santa Claus bombed the humanitarian convoy. In fact they are not that convinced that an actually bombing run took place.

But that doesn't stop Kerry from demanding: ''Kerry also urged that Syrian government forces should be banned from flying over territories held by the opposition forces.''

In short, The US wants to render the Syrian airforce useless, which is not going to happen. Problem is that when the US start downing Syrian jets. Russia has to respond, so again, another provocation designed for total war.


Russia presented all evidence on aid convoy attack, now wants impartial investigation – Lavrov
https://www.rt.com/news/360146-lavrov-unsc-syria-aid-convoy/

Moscow has provided all the data it has on the attack on a humanitarian convoy in Aleppo, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said at a UN Security Council meeting. Lavrov also called for a full and impartial investigation into the incident.

"There was another unacceptable provocation on September 19 - the shelling of a humanitarian convoy near Aleppo,” Lavrov said.

He also noted that at the same time militants had advanced in the 1070 district of Aleppo.

“I am confident that such coincidences require serious analysis and an investigation.”

On September 19, a humanitarian convoy consisting of 31 trucks was attacked while heading to Aleppo. According to the Red Cross, 20 civilians and one aid worker died as a result. Initial reports by the organization claimed the convoy had been targeted by an airstrike.

On Tuesday, the UN backtracked on its earlier claims that the convoy was hit by military planes.

"We are not in a position to determine whether these were in fact airstrikes. We are in a position to say that the convoy was attacked," UN humanitarian spokesman Jens Laerke said.


Speaking on the delivery of humanitarian aid to Syria, Lavrov said that the Russia and US-backed plan included the creation of a demilitarized zone around the Castello Road near Aleppo. The minister added that while the Syrian government forces have started their withdrawal, the militants have not followed suit.

"The government forces began their withdrawal – in accordance with the Russia-American agreements - only to see that the opposition does not follow suit, and even begins to fire."

Russia has informed the US of some 300 ceasefire violations by the rebel groups in Syria, including those of Ahrar al-Sham.

"We notified our American colleagues about 300 cases of violation of the cessation of hostilities on the part of Ahrar al-Sham and a number of other opposition groups whose names have been mentioned in the list of those [groups] who joined the ceasefire,” Lavrov said.

US Secretary of State John Kerry said that following the attack on the humanitarian convoy near Aleppo, the parties involved in the cessation of hostilities in Syria “cannot do business as usual.”

He stressed that without a proper ceasefire in Syria the country will witness “more dead and more suffering on an even greater scale.”

The US secretary of state put the blame for violations of the ceasefire on Syrian President Bashar Assad, calling him a “spoiler.” Kerry added that in his view, Assad “does not believe in ceasefire.”

Kerry also urged that Syrian government forces should be banned from flying over territories held by the opposition forces.

The US secretary of state said that the plan he and Lavrov had agreed in Geneva “is far from perfect,” but that as of yet there are no alternatives to it.
 
bjorn said:
See below, UN didn't took the US word on it that Russia, Syria or Santa Claus bombed the humanitarian convoy. In fact they are not that convinced that an actually bombing run took place.

But that doesn't stop Kerry from demanding: ''Kerry also urged that Syrian government forces should be banned from flying over territories held by the opposition forces.''

In short, The US wants to render the Syrian airforce useless, which is not going to happen. Problem is that when the US start downing Syrian jets. Russia has to respond, so again, another provocation designed for total war.


Russia presented all evidence on aid convoy attack, now wants impartial investigation – Lavrov
https://www.rt.com/news/360146-lavrov-unsc-syria-aid-convoy/

Moscow has provided all the data it has on the attack on a humanitarian convoy in Aleppo, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said at a UN Security Council meeting. Lavrov also called for a full and impartial investigation into the incident.

"There was another unacceptable provocation on September 19 - the shelling of a humanitarian convoy near Aleppo,” Lavrov said.


US 'Predator' Attack Drone Was Spotted Around at the Time of UN Convoy Attack

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160921/1045559448/us-predator-drone-syria-russia.html

US-led coalition's 'Predator' attack drone was spotted around Urum al-Kubra at the time of attack on the UN convoy, the Russian Defense Ministry stated on Wednesday.

'Predator' drone had taken off from Incirlik air base in Turkey and left Urum al-Kubra area half an hour after the incident with UN humanitarian convoy, the ministry stated.

Russian military informed the US Air Force representative that Russian aircraft were not present near Aleppo at the time of the attack on the UN humanitarian convoy, the Russian Defense Ministry said. Russian MoD also denied presense of Russian aircraft near Urum al-Kubra at the time of the attack.

DETAILS TO FOLLOW
 
Russia to Send Admiral Kuznetsov Cruiser to Mediterranean Sea - Defense Minister

https://sputniknews.com/russia/20160921/1045551155/russia-cruiser-mediterranean-sea.html

Russia will send an aircraft carrier group with the Admiral Kuznetsov cruiser to the Mediterranean Sea to strengthen its capabilities there, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said Wednesday.

"Presently, the Russian naval group in eastern Mediterranean comprises six warships and three or four support vessels from all fleets. In order to strengthen the combat capabilities in the group, we plan to include the naval aircraft carrier group with the Admiral Kuznetsov cruiser in its composition," Shoigu said.


3000 Russian conscripts arrive at Syria to fight alongside Syrian Army, monitor group

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/3000-russian-conscripts-arrive-syria-fight-alongside-syrian-army-monitor-group/

At least 3000 Russian servicemen arrived at the northern Syrian city of Aleppo to help the Syrian Army fight jihadi groups in and around the embattled city, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) claimed.

The UK-based monitoring group added that the Russian fighters have arrived over the past four weeks and transported to the government-held As-Safira city in the northeast of Aleppo.

Al Masdar News hasn't been able to verify the authenticity of this claim.

Battles are expected to re-erupt after the 7-day nationwide ceasefire was declared officially over by the Syrian Army's command due to repeated violations by rebel groups.


Military Sources Warn of High Likelihood of Direct US-Syria Military Confrontation after Deir Ezzur Attack

http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950631001391

"After the US-led warplanes attacked the Syrian army's military base in Deir Ezzur, the Syrian army has become more resolved not only to fight the terrorists, but also to directly confront the US," a Syrian military source told FNA on Wednesday.

He reiterated that the situation will surely change in Syria, and said, "The Syrian military men have grown so infuriated after the US attack on Deir Ezzur that they plan to strike at the US as soon as they see the slightest aggression."

On Saturday, the General Command of the Syrian army said the US-led coalition bombed the Syrian army positions in Deir Ezzur, killing some 80 soldiers and injuring dozens more.

The bombing took place on al-Thardah Mountain in the region of Deir Ezzur and caused casualties and destruction on the ground.

Eighty Syrian soldiers were killed and over 100 injured in the airstrike by the US-led coalition, Russia’s Defense Ministry spokesman, Major-General Igor Konashenkov, said, citing information received from the Syrian General Command. But several media activists later reported that the casualties rose to 90.

On Sunday, a military source said that the ISIL launched attacks on the Syrian army positions in Deir Ezzur only 7 minutes after the US-led coalition's airstrikes.

The military source reiterated that the air and ground assault were highly coordinated.

The source said after the coalition's pounding of the Syrian army near Deir Ezzur airbase, the ISIL could take full control of al-Thardah mountain and then Deir Ezzur military base, adding that the army and national defense forces deployed near the airbase immediately won it back from the terrorists by launching a counterattack.

Noting that Deir Ezzur is now almost in tranquility and no change has occurred in the military map of the region, the source said by attacking the Syrian army positions, the US seeks to prevent military operations to break the terrorists' siege on the city.

The source said the simultaneous raid of the ISIL terrorists immediately after the coalition airstrikes is the best evidence of the high coordination done between the US and the terrorists.


ISIS downs new Syrian jet while rebels advance in Eastern Qalamoun

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/isis-downs-new-syrian-jet-rebels-advance-eastern-qalamoun/

Minutes ago, a military source informed Al-Masdar News that the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) has lost contact to a Syrian jet operational in the Eastern Qalamoun, a region northeast of Damascus. The warplane was targeting ISIS-held areas near al-Batraa; it is not immediately clear if ISIS' anti-aircraft crews downed the jet or it was the result of a technical failure.

According to the source, the SAA now believes the Syrian MiG-23 jet is downed although circumstances detailing the pilot's fate remain unclear. Moments ago, Amaq Agency also confirmed the news of the downing:

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In early July 2016, Syrian pilot Nawras Hassan was similarly downed in the very same Eastern Qalamoun region; shortly after, Mr. Hassan was executed by extremest factions.

Meanwhile, rebel fighters of Ahrar al-Sham and the Ahmad al-Abdo Brigade (Free Syrian Army faction) are advancing against ISIS in the Eastern Qalamoun. As of today, rebel fighters have fully seized the Rajem Al-A'ali area, leaving them in approximately 40% control of the Al-Afai mountains.

Jabal Al-Afai was otherwise captured by ISIS along with two other hill tops last week.


Hama: Jeish Al-Fatah's Military Hardware Sustain Heavy Losses in Hama Province

http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950631001314

The Syrian army backed by the country's air force carried out intensive military operations against Jeish al-Fatah terrorist group in Kafr Naboudeh, Atshan, Sakik, Mourek, countryside of Ma'an, Kokab, Souran, Um Haretin, Tal al-Nasseriya, Tal Bazdam and Wadi Hawir in Northern Hama.

Several military vehicles of Jeish al-Fatah terrorists were destroyed and a large number of the militants were killed, according to battlefield sources.

On Tuesday, a Syrian army unit killed more than 25 terrorists of Jeish al-Fatah in the Northern parts of Hama province after the termination of the truce period in the country.

The Syrian army soldiers repelled an attack by the terrorists against the military posts in the village of al-Kabbaria, North of Ma'an, a field source said on Tuesday.

The source added that more than 25 terrorists were killed and three of their vehicles equipped with heavy machineguns along with a bulldozer were destroyed.

The Syrian Army declared end of ceasefire on Monday, regretting that militants did not adhere to any of the provisions stated in the truce agreement.

The Syrian army reaffirmed commitment to fight against terror after the end of truce, and did not add whether the truce will be reinstated any time in future.

The truce started last week. On September 9, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and US Secretary of State John Kerry announced a new peace plan to address the conflict in Syria that called for a ceasefire and anti-terrorism cooperation among other clauses of the treaty.

According to the Russian General Staff, the terrorist groups in Syria have violated the ceasefire over 300 times since it took effect.

In a latest development on Monday, the Syrian military forces repelled ISIL's attacks on their positions in Northeastern Hama along a key supply road to Aleppo, inflicting tens of casualties on the terrorists.

The ISIL terrorists stormed the Syrian army's strongholds in Wadi al-Adhib along the road connecting Sheikh Hillal to Ithriya, but retreated under the heavy fire of Syrian soldiers.

ISIL's attack was aimed at cutting off the main supply route of the Syrian government from Hama to Aleppo.

The Syrian army men pushed ISIL back from the key road in a rapid counterattack.


Arab Media Warn of Ahrar Al-Sham Terrorists' Impending Chemical Attack on Syria

http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950631001264

Informed sources told the Arabic-language Hadas News website that they have corroborative evidence indicating that Ahrar al-Sham terrorists intend to launch a false-flag operation in civilian areas to accuse the Syrian government of launching chemical attacks on the country's civilian population.

They said Ahrar al-Sham has hidden phosphorous munitions in the Northern part of the city of Saraqib in Idlib province, some 20 kilometers from the city of Idlib.

On Tuesday, nearly 70 members of Fatah al-Sham Front (the newly-formed al-Qaeda-affiliated terrorist group previously known as the al-Nusra Front) defected the terrorist group in Southern Idlib.

The militants were trying to flee towards the Eastern parts of Hama to join the ISIL but they were arrested by Fatah al-Sham security forces in Southern Idlib and were transferred to prison, field sources said on Tuesday.

On Saturday, the Syrian military aircraft dropped leaflets over the terrorist-held regions in Idlib province, calling on the militants to surrender or wait for the army's massive attacks soon.

The Syrian army aircraft dropped leaflets reading "Surrender Now" over Jisr al-Shoghour city to give the Takfiri terrorists a last chance to lay down their arms and surrender to the authorities.

Military sources said that hundreds of leaflets have been dropped over Jisr al-Shoghour for several times now.

Reports said on Friday that the Syrian fighter jets pounded the strongholds of Fatah al-Sham in Southern Idlib, destroying the infrastructures of the militants' sites in large scale.

Syrian warplanes bombed Fatah al-Sham's positions in al-Tamana and Khan Seikhoun, inflicting dozens of casualties on the militants and destroying their equipment and weapons.


Syrian Army Destroys Terrorists' Military Bases in Homs Province

http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950631001200

"The Syrian air force pounded the gathering centers of the ISIL in Khanifis, al-Tanaf and in regions near Sha'er oilfield as well as al-Sukhnah in Eastern Homs which resulted in the destruction of the terrorists' military bases and armored vehicles, killing a large number of militants," a military source said.

The source noted that ISIL's gathering centers were also destroyed in Western Salam village in the Eastern part of Homs province, inflicting heavy losses on the terrorists.

In the Northern part of Homs, the army hit hard the terrorist' military positions in Talbishe, Ezzedin, al-Mokarama and al-Aliseh regions.

Meantime, the Ahrar al-Sham and Fatah al-Sham Front (the newly-formed al-Qaeda-affiliated terrorist group previously known as the al-Nusra Front) terrorists sustained heavy losses in the army's offensives on their military positions in al-Rastan, al-Zafaraneh and al-Farhanieh regions.

Syrian Army soldiers repelled ISIL's attacks on their positions in the oil-rich region in Eastern Homs after fierce clashes on Monday.

On Monday, the ISIL's attacks from two directions on government positions in Jazal oilfield in Homs province failed, and ISIL suffered a heavy death toll in its unsuccessful attacks.

Russian fighter jets played a crucial role in repelling ISIL's attacks in Jazal.

In the meantime, Russian and Syrian fighter jets, in a joint attack, pounded ISIL's centers in the village of al-Shandakhiyat and Jubb al-Jarrah in Eastern Homs.

Syrian Air Force's bombardments also destroyed a number of ISIL positions and vehicles in the Eastern side of Tadmur, al-Sukhnah and al-Sha'er oilfield.

Meantime on Sunday, Syrian Army soldiers, backed up by the Russian military helicopters, repelled ISIL's attacks on the government positions near the ancient city of Palmyra (Tadmur).
 

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Laura said:
Aeneas said:
I just saw this from Fars News, so one should take it with a grain of salt.
_http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950631000607

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Edit: I just looked at Sputnik in Arabic and put it into a translator, and found no mention of the above, though this was meant to have been the source. So either Fars made it up, it got pulled from Sputnik (Arabic) or something else happened.

Well, supposedly, Syria shot down one of Israel's jets recently, but Israel denied it.

Also, supposedly, Killary was in a plane crash being where she ought not to be doing god-knows-what, and that is the source of her brain damage. Or so it is alleged. Supposed to be a wikileaks revelation.

There may be some confusion, in the way the report in the article, stated that the information was reported?

Between "I just looked at Sputnik in Arabic and put it into a translator, and found no mention of the above, though this was meant to have been the source." and ......the Arabic-language service of the Russian Sputnik news agency quoted battlefield source in Aleppo as saying on Wednesday.

Looking at the information from a different angle - a battlefield source in Aleppo (informant) relayed field information to an Arabic language service associated with the Russian Sputnik news agency.
Fars News Agency - picked up on it - and reported it to the media. Sputnik news agency was just an intermediary. Sputnik did not produce the article - Fars News Agency did.

Even SANA News Agency which is connected to President Al Assad's website uses "informants" such as
"A military source" to generate news articles for the press. An example is here:

Updated-Army kills more terrorists, destroys their equipment in different areas across the country
http://sana.sy/en/?p=88544

Fars News, SANA, Al masdar news, TASS and syrianfreepress tend to publish more "field reports" than actual articles and rely heavy on inside information from the battle field. RT and Sputnik have their own sources and informants and you can often cross reference information between the different sites.

As far as taking Fars News with a grain of salt I think, you have question each site and it's authors for it's reliability in stating the facts on any given subject. As for Fars News, I have found it to be a reliable site - when cross referencing information. Problem is - they may be one of the first news agencies to get their hands on the information and publish it, while other news agencies might be waiting for more details and conformation. One site I have a real problem with is Russian Insider. Out of 4-5 articles, I can only verify information - on one.

Another thing, Fars News has been getting a bad rap since it first published details, photo's and released video back in January when nine men and one woman were being detained on Farsi Island in the Persian Gulf, after two U.S. Navy boats breeched Iranian waters.

Getting back to the claim, "30 Israeli, Foreign Intelligence Officers Killed in Russia's Caliber Missile Attack in Aleppo" there has been no "official response" from either the Syrian or Russian Government, that I can find at the moment. Other evidence (links below) give a strong possibility of the event. On another level, politically, tensions are stretched between Russia and the U.S. plus the UN Security Council meeting was being held in New York (Monday and Tuesday), in which Lavrov and other dignitaries attended. The information could pose a security risk, so maybe more details will come out later?

Iran's semi-official Fars news agency released photos of the crew sitting atop Persian rugs, looking bored. Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps also released video of what it said was the seizure of the crew, with the U.S. sailors kneeling with their hands behind their heads.

Iran Releases Sailors After U.S. Promises 'Not to Repeat Such Mistakes'
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/2016/1/13/iran-releases-sailors-after-u-s-promise-not-to-repeat-such-mistakes/

The nine men and one woman were being detained on Farsi Island in the Persian Gulf. They were captured before President Obama's State of the Union speech, in which he didn't mention any Americans held by Iran and only devoted two sentences to boasting about the Iran nuke deal.

The IRGC claimed the U.S. boats strayed three nautical miles into their waters bearing "semi-heavy weapons" through "excited and unprofessional moves."


Reports have been appearing in various pro-government media outlets since September 20 that some Russian warships, deployed in Syria’s coastal waters, hit with missiles a foreign-led military operations room near Aleppo city, killing 30 Israeli, US, Turkish, Saudi, Qatari and British officers.

30 Foreign Intelligence Officers (Israeli, US, Turkish) Killed in Missile Attack in Aleppo – Unconfirmed
https://southfront.org/30-foreign-intelligence-officers-israeli-us-turkish-killed-in-missile-attack-in-aleppo-unconfirmed/

The military operations room was allegedly located in the western part of Aleppo province in the middle of Sam’an mountain. It was set up by foreign intelligence services in order to coordinate operations of various militant group against the Syrian government forces in the provinces of Aleppo and Idlib.

Most of the pro-government media outlets cites the Arabic-language service of the Russian Sputnik news agency as a main source of the information.

According to AlMasdarNews:

“Russian warships fired caliber rockets onto the command posts of the terrorists in western Aleppo, where Turkish, Saudi, Israeli, UK, and US officers are deployed to aid their operations,” Sputnik News Agency reported on Tuesday.

Meanwhile, the Iranian Fars News Agency believes that it was on Wednesday:

“The Russian warships fired three Caliber missiles at the foreign officers’ coordination operations room in Dar Ezza region in the Western part of Aleppo near Sam’an mountain, killing 30 Israeli and western officers,” the Arabic-language service of the Russian Sputnik news agency quoted battlefield source in Aleppo as saying on Wednesday.

While there are no doubts that various ‘opposition’ and terrorist groups in Syria are trained, supplied and managed by foreign intelligence services (mostly US, Turkish and Saudi), the pro-government sources have not provided video or photo evidences in order to confirm this report. The Russian Ministry of Defense has not commented on the issue.


These are the real reasons why John Kerry, in these hours at the UNSC, is calling for a “No Fly Zone” over Aleppo and surroundings:

30 Israeli, Foreign Intelligence officers, killed in Russia’s Caliber missile attack in Aleppo, several U.S., Turkish, Saudi, Qatari, British officers were also neutralized
https://syrianfreepress.wordpress.com/2016/09/21/30-israeli-killed-in-aleppo/


Deir Ezzor, 18/9/2016 ~ Syrian Army units carried out concentrated operations against Daesh [so called ISIS] mercenary-terrorists in Deir Ezzor province, inflicting heavy losses upon them.

Syrian Army units kill dozens of Daesh mercenary-terrorists and destroy many of their weapon caches in Deir Ezzor province
https://syrianfreepress.wordpress.com/2016/09/18/saa-kill-terrorists/

A Syrian military source said that the Syrian Army Air Force on Sunday morning raided Daesh terrorists’ gatherings and fortifications in the vicinity of al-Tharda mountain, destroying a number of vehicles and killing dozens of foreign mercenaries.

Earlier, Syrian army units carried out operations against dens and supply lines of Daesh mercenary-terrorists in the neighborhoods of al-Kanamat and al-Erfi in the city, in al-Jafra village and the surroundings of Panorama area and Deir Ezzor military airport.

Heavy losses were inflicted upon terrorists in personnel and weaponry where many armored vehicles equipped with machineguns and weapon caches were destroyed.

Syrian army units restored on Saturday all the points they had lost due to the U.S. airstrikes that targeted a position of the Syrian army in al-Tharda mountain, which had paved the way for the U.S.-backed Daesh mercenary-terrorists to control these points.


ALEPPO, SYRIA (11:50 P.M.) - A Russian warship off the coast of Latakia reportedly fired three sub-caliber rockets at the jihadist rebel defenses in western Aleppo on Monday, striking a Jaysh Al-Fateh (Army of Conquest) command center.

Russian warships launch 3 sub-caliber rockets at jihadist defenses in Aleppo
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russian-warships-launch-3-sub-caliber-rockets-jihadist-defenses-aleppo/

"Russian warships fired caliber rockets onto the command posts of the terrorists in western Aleppo, where Turkish, Saudi, Israeli, UK, and US officers are deployed to aid their operations," Sputnik News Agency reported on Tuesday.

No footage was released of this rocket attack; however, several activists from Aleppo reported this alleged assault from the Mediterranean.

The Russian Navy does not usually fire rockets or missiles into Syria unless they have direct coordinates of the enemy's positions.


- The Syrian Arab Army's 137th Artillery Brigade of the 17th Reserve Division, backed by the Qassem Units (Special Forces), launched a counter-attack tonight to recapture the points they lost to the Islamic State of Iraq and Al-Sham (ISIS) in western Deir Ezzor after the U.S. bombed the government's positions at Jabal Thardeh.

Russian airstrikes propel the Syrian Army to recapture lost points in Deir Ezzor
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russian-airstrikes-propel-syrian-army-recapture-lost-points-deir-ezzor/

DEIR EZZOR, SYRIA (3:00 A.M.) According to a military source from the Qassem Units, the Syrian Armed Forces managed to recapture almost every point lost to the Islamic State militants at Jabal Thardeh tonight.

The Syrian Armed Forces were able to recapture these points after the Russian Air Force hammered the Islamic State's defenses near Tal Kroum, paving the way for them to seize the aforementioned hilltop.

Clashes are still raging tonight, as the Syrian Armed Forces attempt to recover the territory they lost as a result of the U.S. airstrikes on Jabal Thardeh.

Meanwhile, an unnamed U.S. Official as expressed "regret" for the airstrikes.


Less than 24 hours after more than 80 government troops were killed in US airstrikes on Army positions in the eastern city of Deir Ezzor, Syrian fighter jets continue to pound ISIS gatherings in Jabal al-Thurdeh, to the south of the embattled city.

In Video: Syrian Army strikes ISIS back in Deir Ezzor
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/video-syrian-army-strikes-isis-back-deir-ezzor/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdoGWXpSoKE

Earlier this day, ISIS claimed responsibility for downing a Syrian aircraft, killing its pilot.

Yesterday, ISIS jihadists managed to advance in Jabal al-Thurdeh after US airstrikes hit the Syrian forces defending the area. However, the government troops, backed by Syrian and Russian air force, regained most of the lost territories.
 
angelburst29 said:
Laura said:
Aeneas said:
I just saw this from Fars News, so one should take it with a grain of salt.
_http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950631000607

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Edit: I just looked at Sputnik in Arabic and put it into a translator, and found no mention of the above, though this was meant to have been the source. So either Fars made it up, it got pulled from Sputnik (Arabic) or something else happened.

Well, supposedly, Syria shot down one of Israel's jets recently, but Israel denied it.

Also, supposedly, Killary was in a plane crash being where she ought not to be doing god-knows-what, and that is the source of her brain damage. Or so it is alleged. Supposed to be a wikileaks revelation.

There may be some confusion, in the way the report in the article, stated that the information was reported?

Between "I just looked at Sputnik in Arabic and put it into a translator, and found no mention of the above, though this was meant to have been the source." and ......the Arabic-language service of the Russian Sputnik news agency quoted battlefield source in Aleppo as saying on Wednesday.

Looking at the information from a different angle - a battlefield source in Aleppo (informant) relayed field information to an Arabic language service associated with the Russian Sputnik news agency.
Fars News Agency - picked up on it - and reported it to the media. Sputnik news agency was just an intermediary. Sputnik did not produce the article - Fars News Agency did.
Thanks Angelburst, yes the idea that Sputnik just functioned as a relay and chose not to publish it did not cross my mind. I thought at the time, that the issue might be true, but at the moment too sensitive to appear on Sputnik and had been ordered to be pulled from above.

The story from the Turkish paper of at least three Russian intelligence officers being killed, as mentioned earlier, also pointed towards the likelyhood of a Russian response in kind. As you say, perhaps later, there will be a release of information about the event.
 

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