Russia Begins Operations in Syria: End Game for the US Empire?

[youlik]

Are they actually advancing? I've seen contradicting posts on social media saying that the rebels are getting decimated by Russian airstrikes and others saying they're taking over large areas. It might be too soon to tell right now with all the propaganda.

There is a lot of propaganda and it is difficult to say something definitely, but... I'll drop you some more.
For example, according to some sources, such a huge territory is now occupied by Islamists.
Syria, the size of the territory that came under the control of militants in 5 days

The issue of equipping drones. Islamist detachments are actively studying and using drones, but the Syrian army does not have this. There are no drones or anti-drone protection at all! As if what has been happening around them in the world for several years does not concern them.
Turks and Hohols are training Syrian fighters in the assembly and use of drones

An interesting message about the Russian Navy. 2 frigates, a submarine and support ships left the port of Tartus. Some have already begun to panic about the evacuation of the Navy base, but in reality it turned out to be even more interesting. The guys went to learn how to launch rockets. They seem to be doing well? Of course, well done, only one question confuses - in the current situation, they did not find targets for their missiles on land and decided to jam fish in the sea? So it turns out that aviation from the Khmeimim base is actively working, destroying columns of Islamists, and sailors jam fish in the sea with hypersonic missiles.

Russian frigates have used hypersonic Zircon missiles in the Mediterranean

On Tuesday, December 3, in the eastern Mediterranean, the VKS and the Russian Navy worked out ways of joint action by launching high-precision sea- and air-based missiles. This was told in the press service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

The military department clarified that the crews of the frigates Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov and Admiral Golovko fired hypersonic Zircon missiles, the Novorossiysk diesel-electric submarine launched a Kalibr cruise missile at a naval target position.

"At the same time, from the designated area on the Mediterranean coast, the calculation of the Bastion coastal missile system carried out a combat launch of the Onyx cruise missile," the ministry added, noting that the designated targets were successfully hit by direct hits.

The ministry explained that the exercises were conducted in accordance with the training plan of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation under the leadership of the Commander-in-chief of the Navy, Admiral Alexander Moiseev.

In preparation for the exercises, the composition of the compound in the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea has been increased. The created groupings of heterogeneous strike and anti-submarine forces conduct missile, artillery and torpedo firing, as well as practical bombing, the Defense Ministry said. Part of the combat exercises is performed with the complex use of high-precision weapons, the latest means of destruction, recently adopted by the Russian Navy and the Russian Aerospace Forces.

Российские фрегаты применили в Средиземноморье гиперзвуковые ракеты Циркон

Spoiler: Russian spelling

Много пропаганды и трудно утверждать что то определенно, но... я подброшу еще.
Например, вот такую огромную территорию по некоторым данным сейчас занимают исламисты.
Вопрос по оснащению дронами. Отряды исламистов активно учатся и применяют дроны, в сирийской армии этого нет. Совсем нет как дронов, так и антидроновой защиты! Как будто происходящее вокруг них в мире на протяжении нескольких лет их не касается.
Интересное сообщение про российский ВМФ. 2 фрегата, подводная лодка и корабли обеспечения вышли из порта Тартус. Некоторые уже стали паниковать на тему эвакуации базы ВМФ, но в реальности оказалось еще интереснее. Ребята пошли учиться запускать ракеты. Вроде бы молодцы? Конечно же молодцы, только смущает один вопрос- в происходящей обстановке они не нашли на суше целей для своих ракет и решили глушить рыбу в море? Значит получается, что авиация с базы Хмеймим активно работает, уничтожает колонны исламистов, а моряки гиперзвуковыми ракетами глушат рыбу в море.

 

[lilies]

There is a lot of propaganda and it is difficult to say something definitely, but... I'll drop you some more.

We appear to have been immersed into a Global Propaganda Trap by the West. Intel is not given to civilians by the East - Team Putin - to preserve their surprise factor, naturally, I think.
Intel source career soldiers in alt-media for example are echoing the total destruction of Yuzhmash, - including President Putin with his 4000 °C degrees at blast site explanation - which IMO Western propagandists tried to shake off with possibly photoshopped satellite images, where they show only minimal puncture wounds, little damage to the large Yuzhmash industrial plant. Also SBU cordoned off the entire area - again allegedly - and does not allow any info to get out.

#2:
Terrorists will eat Syria alive. Assad is Evil. His people are suffering and hungry. Which strangely meshes with she-demon's Killary's perpetual song:
- Assad must go!
And meshes with US supremacy handbooks texts, where they foment Arab Springs, revolutions, internal conflicts, Gnashing of Teeth everywhere.

Civilians - us - are confused, who to listen to. What is the Truth? What happened? What is truly happening in Syria? There is no undeniable military intel. No satellite access to civilians. No whistleblowers coming out. Everybody is proclaiming their own truth.
Back and forth:
- No! You are wrong! I am right!
- No! You are the one, who is wrong! I am truly right, IMO!

As if a Cosmic Puzzle Lesson was presented to us. To solve and learn, how Orion STS operates.

 

[ApotheosisMMC.]

Certainly the attack has caught them by surprise or has been larger and more developed in terms of weapons than their estimates, if they suspected anything at all.
The situation is difficult at the moment and it remains to be seen how things develop, but let us apply what we learned in Ukraine, although the scenario is different and has started very badly for the Syrian forces and their allies, it may be that the strategies of advance and retreat applied by the Russians depending on what favors them will take place here.
There are rumors based on a situational map that has appeared on the networks that a cauldron is being planned to be set up at the same time as these statements made by the Syrian defense minister are circulating:

Syrian Defense Minister Reveals the Truth of What Happened in Hama... and Warns of "Artificial Intelligence"​

Thursday 05/December/2024 - 09:36 PM


On Thursday, Syrian Defense Minister Ali Mahmoud Abbas revealed the truth about the events that took place in the city of Hama and the truth about the withdrawal of the Syrian army and the control of terrorist organizations over some areas there, warning at the same time against the use of artificial intelligence to mislead and deceive the Syrian people.

The Syrian Minister of Defense confirmed that after the Syrian armed forces redeployed outside the city of Hama to protect the lives of civilians and the terrorist organizations entered the city, these organizations are working to exploit this event in the media through a false misleading campaign against the Syrian people and our armed forces, with the aim of spreading chaos.

Abbas said in a statement broadcast on Syrian television that what happened in the city of Hama today was a temporary tactical measure. The Syrian forces are still in the vicinity of the city of Hama and are fully prepared and ready to carry out their national and constitutional duties.

He pointed out that terrorist organizations may resort to issuing false statements or orders in the name of the General Command of the Army and Armed Forces, or publishing audio recordings or video clips fabricated using artificial intelligence technology.

Abbas recommended: The Syrian people to be patient and steadfast, and to be confident that the Syrian army will not hesitate to restore security and safety to the areas occupied by terrorists, and the Syrian Arab army will remain, as you have known it throughout the years of war on Syria, the impregnable dam in the face of anyone who dares, from within or without, to tamper with the security of the homeland.

Syrian Defense Minister Ali Mahmoud Abbas confirmed that the Syrian army is waging a fierce, ongoing battle with the most brutal terrorist organizations that use gang tactics, which forces the armed forces to use appropriate methods in fighting battles, including advances and retreats, and advances and withdrawals to some points.

The Syrian Minister of Defense said that the Takfiri organizations are backed by well-known regional and international countries that provide them with military and logistical support.

Abbas added, "We are in a good field situation and our armed forces have worked to redeploy to preserve lives," noting that military action and in the context of battle tactics sometimes require redeployment.

He explained that Syria, with its army, people, leadership, and the support of its allies and friends, is capable of overcoming field challenges, no matter how severe or difficult they are.

The Syrian Minister of Defense called on the valiant Syrian people, civilians and military personnel, to be aware of the dangers of this misleading campaign, not to believe it, and to adhere to what is published exclusively through official national channels.

P.s: although it is not directly related, in the conflict that arose in 2011 the troops loyal to Assad had under their control less than 19% of the country's territory, it is its most critical stage.

وزير الدفاع السوري يكشف حقيقة ما جرى في حماة.. ويحذر من "الذكاء الاصطناعي"

كشف وزير الدفاع السوري علي محمود عباس، يوم الخميس عن حقيقة الأحداث التي جرت في مدينة حماة وحقيقة انسحاب الجيش السوري وسيطرة التنظيمات الإرهابية على بعض المناطق فيها، محذرا في الوقت نفسه من استخدام الذ

www.elbalad.news

 

[Ian]

Russian MFA on Telegram ( Russian MFA ):
Permanent Mission of the Russian Federation to the UN:

🎙 Statement by First Deputy Permanent Representative Dmitry Polyanskiy at a UNSC briefing on the Syrian chemical file (December 5, 2024)

The OPCW Technical Secretariat continues to obediently carry out Western orders to smear Syria as well as its allies. There have been promoted the hackney arguments about Syria's alleged failure to comply with its obligations under the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC). At the same time, what has been ignored is the assistance provided by Damascus to the staff of the Declaration Assessment Team (DAT), as well as the very fact that the Syrians still continue in good faith to cooperate with the OPCW, even though they had every reason to stop this cooperation after the West pushed through the decision to infringe on Damascus’s rights and priviliges under the CWC.

Any unbiased observer or expert — our Western colleagues are certainly not the ones — cannot deny that the Syrian authorities have demonstrated utmost responsibility when it comes to providing documentation to clarify existing questions related to the initial declaration.

Among CWC parties, Syria remains the most inspected State. But despite this, new far-fetched accusations against Damaskus continue to mount.

<...>

Instead of establishing the truth with regard to the Douma incident and thus restoring the undermined trust towards the true motivation and objectives behind their work on the Syrian chemical file, the Western countries proceed with fabrications, tangling their web of lies into an ever-growing massive knot.

And how should we approach the fact that in April 2018 representatives of the US, Britain and France, in breach of the UN Charter and international law, launched more than 100 missiles and guided bombs on targets in Syria, which were allegedly linked to that country's chemical program. Thus, instead of sending OPCW inspectors there, who the Syrians were willing to accept, Western countries simply destroyed possible evidence single-handedly bringing in the guilty verdict and executing the sentence. Where is the logic here? Where is any common sense?

️ The result of all these years of effort is somewhat obvious — the staggering level of politicization of what was once a purely technical organization, one of whose priority tasks was facilitating economic and technological development as well as assisting in building specific industrial capabilities in developing countries.

Moreover, the chemical weapons prohibition regime as a whole is being challenged, and the Organization's ability to respond to the real challenges facing the international community in the field of chemical disarmament and non-proliferation of chemical weapons is being undermined.

Read in full: Statement by First Deputy Permanent Representative Dmitry Polyanskiy at a UNSC briefing on the Syrian chemical file

 

[N1mTzo]

What scheme do you mean? Erdogan has been very outspoken against Israel and its genocide in Gaza. It seems clear that the current "Syrian rebel attacks" are sponsored by Israel, the US or both.

Erdogan is an absolute two-faced hypocrite (who would sell out even his own mother, his popularity in Turkey is extremely low now), but it seems that he has some direct personal agreements with Putin on Syria. We see that the bandits from Idlib have left aside the Russian military bases by the sea and do not even enter this region (Latakia, Tartus). They (the bandits) are threatening Assad specifically. It seems that Moscow is also not very happy with Assad, they decided to teach him a lesson. A very strange situation, in which even Iran and Iraq prefer not to interfere directly for now.

 

[bozadi]

The “pendulum” situation about Erdogan administration, including the recent “back-stabbing” spectacle in Syria, doesn’t necessarily mean that they are firmly aligned with the Consortium. They just want to be a “third pole” of power. What they, along with so many around the world, don’t understand is that this is a “two-pole” struggle only: the Russian-led allies as still developing vs the US-based consortium. An STO potentiality vs a firm STS trajectory. No gray area for a third polarity.

The old way of thinking based on history makes so many people, especially in Turkiye, think that Russia works only for its own potential global hegemony. So, active and singular cooperation with Russia seems to be a betrayal to one’s (Turkiye’s) own national interests. It’s almost impossible for so many to admit the possibility that Russia might actually be working for global justice, not just for its singular national interests against others.

Just like Putin’s Russia is a revolutionary change, the Erdogan government is also a revolutionary change, in Turkiye’s own conditions. Probably no one would imagine that the AKP-MHP government (one is strictly religiously inspired, and the other strictly and somewhat overly nationalistic, both with a history of strong anti-Communist, anti-Soviet, anti-Russian sentiments in their ideological backgrounds) would show significant resistance to the NATO and have potentially significant cooperation with Russia and its allies. The situation with Ukraine, Syria, etc. is like the negative movement of the pendulum, but not the only movement. The pendulum reality itself is somewhat unsightly but not the worst scenario. I tend to be optimistic about the future. Russia’s patience and ‘kind but firm’ efforts for further compatibility and cooperation will continue to pay, hopefully.

 

[Tuatha de Danaan]

Have I missed something or what has Assad done recently to upset the status quo?
I just imagined the rebels had been planning and re-arming whilst Gaza was going on and attracting too much worldly sympathy. A need to refocus everyones attention elsewhere whilst the cleansing continued. Added to this opening a new front for continuance of WW3.

 

[lilies]

Have I missed something or what has Assad done recently to upset the status quo?

Lavrov mentioned in the Tucker interview he will meet with the Ministers of Foreign Affairs of Turkey and Iran to discuss, what to do:
"to cut the US/UK channels of financing and arming ISIS. Situation is complex, many players with interests in Syria."

This looks like Kursk Operation Redux in Syria. Except nobody cares about the lives of rat ISIS.

Posted here recently is the Syrian defense minister warned people of concerted Propaganda Attack with use of AI to generate fake news is ongoing. Syrians were advised to listen only to publications coming directly from Syrian Ministry channels.

Propaganda is that Putin doesn't care about Syria and abandoning the country, Assad's wife and kids fled to Russia, Assad government is to fall in next 72 hours, etc... etc..

Military intel is that Russia and Iran are preparing forces to send to Syria again. But this time:
1. Turkey's Idlib interests will be ignored.
2. Nobody will care about refugee flows.
3. Arab military incompetence is noticed = giving up territory

Dunno, what the famous Tiger Forces, the ISIS hunters are doing? Probably they went home and need mobilizing again?

 

[loreta]

Lavrov mentioned in the Tucker interview he will meet with the Ministers of Foreign Affairs of Turkey and Iran to discuss, what to do:
"to cut the US/UK channels of financing and arming ISIS. Situation is complex, many players with interests in Syria."

This looks like Kursk Operation Redux in Syria. Except nobody cares about the lives of rat ISIS.

Posted here recently is the Syrian defense minister warned people of concerted Propaganda Attack with use of AI to generate fake news is ongoing. Syrians were advised to listen only to publications coming directly from Syrian Ministry channels.

Propaganda is that Putin doesn't care about Syria and abandoning the country, Assad's wife and kids fled to Russia, Assad government is to fall in next 72 hours, etc... etc..

Military intel is that Russia and Iran are preparing forces to send to Syria again. But this time:
1. Turkey's Idlib interests will be ignored.
2. Nobody will care about refugee flows.
3. Arab military incompetence is noticed = giving up territory

Dunno, what the famous Tiger Forces, the ISIS hunters are doing? Probably they went home and need mobilizing again?

Thanks.

I have the impression that this will be a big war, a dangerous one. And it is always complicated to see what really happens because of the fog of war. This article of Pepe Escobar can help a little bit to understand a little more but not much more also so the implications of what is happening is huge.

The Syria riddle: How it may turn into the First BRICS War

The Global Majority should be on full alert. The Greater Idiblistan attack is part of a complex interconnected operation. Join us on Telegram, Twitter, and VK. Contact…

strategic-culture.su

 

[ApotheosisMMC.]

Remember that the CS mentioned that there is a huge portal in Syria.

It is difficult to know what is happening due to the massive propaganda, but what is certain is that if there was any information about the invasion by Syria and its allies, this information was limited in terms of the level of the attack forces and their capabilities and that the information was relatively late so it did not allow adequate time for the dispatch of sufficient support. Perhaps a possible scenario is that the Syrian army will continue to prefer to retreat according to their assessments and garrison certain areas of the country to try to gain some time, if they decide and manage to resist for a couple of weeks that could give time to the logistics of their allies to send support and troops...
I say this because according to the statements of the people present at the meeting in the capital of Qatar it was agreed to avoid the country falling into anarchy and terrorism and to initiate a political solution based on resolution 2254 of the security council, it may be that Assad will leave at the end of the day due to political processes, but they should not be willing to hand Syria over to the terrorists in charge of the current offensives for now and knowing who is behind them. Of course it is possible that the Syrian army will not resist and we will could see in Europe another refugee crisis and another failed country plunged into total chaos.

All parties should strive for a political solution to the crisis in Syria, agreed the participants of the negotiations on Syria in Doha.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Qatar published a joint statement of Russia, Iran, Turkey and five Arab countries on the situation in the Syrian Arab Republic.

to protect the Syrian Arab Republic from anarchy and terrorism and to guarantee the return of refugees;

to increase humanitarian aid to Syrians and guarantee its delivery to all affected areas;

the need to stop hostilities was pointed out in order to start a political process based on resolution 2254;

UN efforts to reach a political solution are supported;

it was agreed to continue close coordination for effective participation in the political solution in Syria.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1865546010673496303

Resolution 2254:

The United Nations Security Council Resolution 2254 was unanimously adopted on 18 December 2015. It calls for a ceasefire and political settlement in Syria. As of 2024, no real progress has been made to implement the resolution.
The negotiations have reached a stalemate due to the inability to agree on a venue for the talks, following their previous occurrence in Geneva as a result of Russia's strained relations with the host nation. The resolution "demanded" that all parties immediately cease any attacks against civilian targets, it "urged" all Member States to support efforts to achieve a ceasefire and "requested" the U.N. to convene the parties to engage in formal negotiations in early January 2016.

Groups seen as "terrorist groups" by the U.N. Security Council, including the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant and the al-Nusra Front, were excluded. Offensive and defensive actions against such groups would continue. A mechanism to monitor the ceasefire would be set up

Within 18 months, free and fair elections would be held under U.N. supervision. The political transition would be Syrian-led.

 

[whitecoast]

RT says Assad has fled to Russia.

Jihadists reach Damascus suburbs – AP

Terrorist groups have already seized some of Syria’s largest cities as Assad’s office claims the president is still in the capital

www.rt.com

Live updates here.

Jihadists enter Damascus: Live Updates

Fighting has reportedly broken out on the outskirts of Damascus, as Bashar Assad’s office denies rumors that he plans to flee the city

www.rt.com

For today:

08 December 2024

03:43 GMT
Syrian PM Mohammad al-Jalali has said he is “ready to cooperate with any leadership chosen by the people”, as quoted by Al Jazeera. According to Reuters, Al Jalali also claimed he remains in his home inclined to “support continuity of governance.”

03:21 GMT
A Syrian military source told Reuters that the national Army command “informs officers of the fall” of Bashar Assad’s government.

03:18 GMT
Jihadists officially claim Damascus seizure and taking over power in Syria via social media.

03:04 GMT
The plane reportedly carrying President Bashar Assad has disappeared from radar, according to data from the flight tracker Flightradar. Syrian Airlines Ilyushin Il-76T departed from Damascus International Airport, suddenly lost altitude a few minutes later, and then disappeared from radar.

03:03 GMT
President Bashar Assad left Damascus at 10 p.m. on Saturday, and the army command informed its officers and soldiers of the “fall of the regime“, Director of the UK-based Syrian Observatory Rami Abdel Rahman said during an Al Hadath channel live broadcast.

02:53 GMT
Syrian officers withdraw from the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff headquarters, Al Jazeera wrote quoting jihadist sources.

02:47 GMT
Damascus International Airport has been evacuated of all employees, and all flights have been halted, Al Shams Radio claims citing correspondent.

02:34 GMT
Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps confirmed that jihadists had entered Damascus, the New York Times wrote quoting two Iranian sources. They also claimed that Syrian forces are withdrawing from the capital.

The Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps has been prominent in supporting Syria’s government.

02:25 GMT
President Bashar Assad has left Damascus to an unknown destination – Reuters citing two senior Syrian officials.

01:55 GMT
Jihadist forces begin entering Damascus, Islamists have claimed.

According to an earlier RT update Assad departed in an airplane Ilyushin Il-76T. The only flight of that plane according to flightradar24 the plane started to descend 15 minutes around Homs and disappeared from radar at 1600 ft. Good chance it was shot out of the sky by surface-to-air missiles, which require low altitudes for infrared guidance.

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Syria war live news: Opposition declares Damascus ‘free of tyrant al-Assad.’
The prime minister claims he is “ready to cooperate with any leadership chosen by the people.” Good chance he's under house arrest and being fed a script.

Syria’s opposition declares Damascus ‘free of tyrant Bashar al-Assad’

Syria’s armed opposition says they have captured the capital and that President Bashar al-Assad has fled the country.

www.aljazeera.com

This is not good.

 

[youlik]

RT says Assad has fled to Russia.

They write that Assad is in Dubai, but the source is questionable. I think it's not that important anymore.

Bashar al-Assad fled Syria to Dubai
The situation in Syria continues to escalate. According to CNN, Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad is no longer in Damascus, despite claims by his administration and Iranian officials that he has not left the capital. Sources say that Assad could have moved to Dubai, and done so some time ago. Against this background, American officials predict that the regime may fall within the next few hours.

Damascus, according to local residents, is in a state of "tension and panic." The streets of the capital are emptying, residents are trying to leave the city amid rumors of a possible imminent fall of the government. The presence of opposition groups in the suburbs of Damascus increases the sense of instability.

"No one knows what will happen next. Everyone is wondering who really runs the country," said one of the residents of the city.

According to him, rumors of Assad's flight only add to uncertainty about the future.

The Syrian military has already accused Assad of betrayal and flight and refuses further resistance, laying down their weapons and retreating in exchange for security guarantees.

The key issue remains the continued presence of Russia at military bases in Latakia and Tartus, since, taking into account Russian air strikes on rebel positions, the latter do not intend to negotiate with Russia.

Башар Асад сбежал из Сирии в Дубай

This is called Prigozhin prophecy. He said these words after the liberation of Palmyra and about Palmyra, but as is typical of many prophecies, there is a generalization.

"The first one who came to Palmyra was Ratibor. I remember his words well. He turned to the official and said: "If you lose Palmyra again (in the original, profanity was used), we will definitely not fight it off for the third time," Prigozhin said.

Пророчество Пригожина начинает сбываться. Новый поворот в Сирии | Капитал страны

Spoiler: Russian spelling

Пишут, что Асад в Дубае, но источник сомнительный. Я думаю, что это теперь уже не так важно.
Это называют пророчеством Пригожина. Он сказал эти слова после освобождения Пальмиры и про Пальмиру, но как свойственно многим пророчествам, присутствует обобщение.

 

[Voyageur]

Syria war live news: Opposition declares Damascus ‘free of tyrant al-Assad.’

This is not good.

It was fast and deep without the ability to counter. Sad stuff, with the MSN gloating over it all as it develops.

Back in November, al-Assad made this address on a different thread, and at the time it seemed like a direct challenge to the other member states that was bound to be ignored. Indeed, it was more than just to be ignored.

 

[loreta]

Syria is part of the Great Israel, and Al-Assad do not want to finish like Gaddafi. What a tragic situation is living Syria.

 

[sToRmR1dR]

One of the reasons why all this is prearranged and why is happening in Syria. Unfortunately, not all parties have the same agenda, so the next target would be Iran.