Russia's behavior in these crazy times

[Alma.Innovadora]

I would wait: For 8 years
I would avoid bloodshed until the last moment I can: It was always the reason to wait 8 years and more
I would defend myself with all I've got if I got attacked. That's what I would do: That's what they'll do if they still don't listen.

Also, please, keep such comments to yourself.

I personally would ask the same of you, keep your comments and go to a group where they pity each other.

I live in a world where I was in a pointless brother-killing war, where I full well know what such maddness brings.

You are not the only one who lives here nor the only one who has been in that position. Some can't understand because of emotional stagnation and biased thinking among other underlying reasons. But there are others who do, but apparently you are not one of the first and you don't have to come and shut everyone up for not agreeing with you or having lived what you have. Depending on what happens soon, we may all get to kill and get hurt and watch others die from wherever they are.

There is enough information about it, if you don't want to accept it, please don't be in the way anymore. You are not helping yourself, you are not asking for help and you do not want to help yourself.

 

[youlik]

Well, all I can say is that if a person is so far out of synch with the information provided on this forum, with the inspiration informing that perspective, (i.e. Cassiopaean Experiment), when all of that is freely available, then that person is either living in a cave or is here deliberately to waste time and energy.

Sorry, I'm not buying the disingenuous BS.

My friend, irJO, Laura is a thousand times right. We shouldn't have entered into this useless rinsing. We will not be able to prove anything, we will waste energy

Spoiler: Russian spelling

Дружище, , Лора тысячу раз права. Зря мы вступили в это бесполезное полоскание. Доказать ничего не получиться, тока потратим энергию

 

[irjO]

Also, please, keep such comments to yourself. I live in a world where I was in a pointless brother-killing war, where I full well know what such maddness brings. I have shot at others, I was shot at, I was in the middle of all that crap, and I have to say, you simply dont know what you are talking about. You dont have a clue.

No war is justified. It is the ultimate demonstration of maddness that is installed by default in human race.

We all are affected by wars one way or another, in my case I had to run away from my country so I can have a proper life and still suffering consequences because of doing so. Sorry that you had that horrible experience (I do) but it’s seems that your emotional state/trauma from that experience wont let you see the reality as it is.
And you were the one who opened the thread in the first place so don’t expect people on this forum to keep the comments to themselves.
If you can’t deal with that then move to a different forum!

 

[irjO]

My friend, irJO, Laura is a thousand times right. We shouldn't have entered into this useless rinsing. We will not be able to prove anything, we will waste energy

Spoiler: Russian spelling

Дружище, , Лора тысячу раз права. Зря мы вступили в это бесполезное полоскание. Доказать ничего не получиться, тока потратим энергию

Agreed, sometimes you just hope. Thanks for the reminder.
I think there is no point to discuss anything else.

 

[Alma.Innovadora]

Agreed, sometimes you just hope. Thanks for the reminder.

Yes "hope". But it definitely has to stop. And the stop was a few posts back. If by now most are aware that it is becoming frequent for people to come in out of tune, provide the necessary links and let them figure it out for themselves because they definitely know we will respond in vain.

Do not throw your pearls before swine.

Little by little, we are also making this a sauce like the youtubers and that is not the idea. (it's salseo, I don't know how to say it in English, but you understand).

 

[Vinícius]

and btw they keep accusing of you of lies when you haven’t done anything they are accusing you of in the first place. What would you do? Tell me.

Next question. Your neighbors and family members have been maimed and killed for 8 years and at the same time they continue to prepare, they are going to attack you and do not hide it all this time. Keep talking, what would you do?

Spoiler: Russian spelling

Следующий вопрос. Твоих соседей и членов семьи калечат и убивают 8 лет и при этом продолжают готовиться, собираются напасть и на тебя и не скрывают этого все это время. Продолжай говорить, чтобы ты сделал?

bomb the US!! xD

but maybe this conflict dragging for 8 years was a way to show innocent people that the war ain't worth it, time for them to have a more tangible reference, look back and see what this is about? maybe the ones in the front line which are left have more or less chosen it..

my 2c

 

[lilies]

I don't believe anything my government (US) says, which makes me prone to believe that Putin is a good guy. He may be. Or not. But as James Corbett says in his latest post, there are more than two sides to the story. The Ukraine Crisis: What You Need to Know

Pretty interesting that Corbett denies Putin's sainthood and his "The Return" after he became a Sputnik V Salesman. Just like how we liked Meister Trump, until he became a Pfizer Salesman. Surprisingly Gonzalo Lira reveals that the Russians deliberately supported the Donetsk-Lugansk gangsters. Dunno, if he meant that wording as a joke as he often uses swear-words, but he describes Russia diligently supporting their proxy army Donetsk-Lugansk to undermine any NATO success. Also Russia wishes to undermine the Ukrainian government's - maybe genuine - intent to keep the Russians as far away as they can. But since Ukraine is a CIA Banana Republic, where everybody who is an Ivy League Graduate & member of The Club is receiving his-her free millions of dollars of annual salaries or Oligarch Profits, one cannot blame the Russians for quietly manipulating Ukraine to not become a NATO-US slave.

Also latest Newsreal fantastically remarks that as soon as the Con-19 Plandemic Media Stream of Lies ended, immediately and very smoothly the "Russian Invasion" Crazy Circus Show began to completely consume our lives.
Have you done anything meaningful and useful - like real work - since the war began? Or did you read everything like crazy, until your head hurt.. and only now you might have realized, both sides are just wishing to rob you of your life and energy and decision sovereignty = do with your free time as you please and NOT how the WEF-One-World-Government Cabal wishes to dictate by forever creating crisis situations, which you will be doomed to study ad infinitum, until they introduce the next one. One World Government by default means all countries, without exception.. Orange Hair Man Baad! Putin good.. wait! Putin Baad. But who do you believe?

I stated once in the last couple years, that:
- The most important life-decisions everybody is making totally alone.

Also any timeline - any reality that you see, when you look out of your head, you only experience totally alone. I think the fact that if there is a spouse by your side, that only means that you don't feel as alone. If you are extremely lucky and have your Polar Opposite at your side then almost all of us can't really imagine decision-making in that situation anyway.
One thing is clear to me: I think this group exist on multiple parallel timelines at once. Everybody here has parallel copies in those timelines busily networking here in this group, which group - again, I think - is present on all those parallel timelines. Like reserving the best seat for a theater show: Depending on how you manage to preserve your mental-spiritual integrity, you can participate on the better timelines.

I think, nobody in this world has hard-data on how the future will turn out. Everybody has just feelings, hunches, visions, premonitions, predictions.. all of which aren't worth more than painting you a picture of where (?) You alone want to go.. (if someone has a better vision of the future) or where you do NOT wanna go: if someone has a Doom & Gloom Baad feeling about the future, which negative visions/predictions act like an Energy-vampire sucking your life-blood.

Naturally we love to think we might wanna gravitate toward better timelines, where relatively more okayish improvements happen, so the entire geopolitical situation developing in those better timelines exhilarate us.. even if just a little bit.

- Just tell me a little bit of good news! Anything better happening in those timelines?

Doesn't matter if its just a tiny bit of good news.. I wanna go there! Into that timeline..
- Uhuh.. but.. to go there, do you have the will / control / disciple / timing and patience to KEEP preserving your mental-spiritual integrity and keep an open mind about possible positive future outcomes - any relative improvements - and keep this open mind on a continued basis?
Can you keep a positive - Happy-Go-Lucky Attitude - in continuity? Especially in these times?

Or are you easily pulled into the Negative-Mindset / downward pulling opinions / Economic Fear-mongerings of economists? The machine-like, mindlessly executed energy robbing activity of others?

Only You determine, which future timeline You will participate!

Always keep an open mind about serendipitous outcomes, even if they bring minimal improvement to your situation. Getting to a better timeline is generally ruled by that famous story: remember 'the freshly-graduated 4thD STO peeps pushing their positivity with no abandon in order to increase their polarity in the positiveness scale'. Remember?
Can you do that?
Just a little bit of that positive thinking day by day?

I think, that is how you 'create your own reality', your seat on the Show titled 'A Better Timeline!'
Your fate is what you make!
In your own mind: keeping all possibilities open. Especially with the intent to gravitate to timelines, where you can greet others with a smile, because you can't help to be delighted about [recent positive events on your new timeline].

It feels like as if the entire world is a ship, like the one in Krakatoa.
The battered ship just came out of the storm - on the back of a large, calm wave..
..which is smoothly carrying the ship out of harms way.
You feel a refreshing breeze touching your soul.
Because you finally can breathe a sigh of relief.

 

[Chaze]

Ya know, its easy, oh-so-easy for someone who never experienced war firsthand, to talk this way. To talk so detached and on the surface, objectively about something that, in essence, is a gore fest, a lot of blood, a lot of detached limbs, dead bodies, and the stench. Oh the stench.

But the truth is that war has nothing to do with a pretty picture that is always drawn around it. There is NO excuse for a war, period.

I have seen people disintegrate from a direct mortar hit. Its not a "solution". Its unfathomable savagery. Whoever starts a war is a murderer in my eyes, and cant and wont be anything else. You can paint the pretty pictures, and try to reason it isnt murder. But it is murder, plain and simple. Its inexcusable. I dont care what someone says, Ive been there and I know what a blody mess itcan be.

If you have truly seen and experienced such things, then my condolences go out to you. I have never seen war of this scale, but like yourself, I am well acquainted with violence. My history is decorated with it. I have seen and done things that keep me up at night. So I understand… Or can at least empathize.

But maybe I can speak to you—and also to others whom have never seen the raw reality of such cruelties first hand—in a language that familiarizes things a little better. And maybe bridge a gap of understanding.

Violence is inevitable at this point in our reality. And it is traumatizing, yes. Without a shadow of a doubt, it etches a deep scar within the psyche of any man or woman who has to experience it, especially on a grandiose and/or prolonged scale. It clouds our vision. Let’s be honest with ourselves. It changes us into a state that only those who have experienced it themselves will understand the magnitude of. So that puts us at a disadvantage.

Think of it like having muscular scar tissue formed around the endings of a nerve. If it goes untreated, it builds and builds, causing constant pain, limiting mobility, and tends to make us to forget what we were once capable of before we were hurt. So as proper treatment, we have to do what is further painful, yet beneficial for us. We must scrape the scar tissue, no matter how painful it may be in the process, until we can ultimately release the entangled nerves and relieve ourselves of that awful pain and revive our capabilities of better mobility. The scar will still remain, yes, but it will no longer restrict us as it once did.

This is what we must also do to our psyche. Doing this is essential to understanding the bigger picture here.

You say you are quite familiar with Laura’s work—20 years of study—so I assume you are also aware of 4D STS’s influence and dominion over our reality. How this reflects into what we see and experience around and within us. How this is a part of what you and I are meant to experience, in our own unique ways, on our own unique paths. Look at how challenging it has been for us. How devastating at times. How many things did we do that we weren’t proud of, or kept us awake at night? How many times have we wept at the thought of facing another day? All those battles and the general horror that comes with them, how did we handle it once the smoke had cleared and we realized that we were alive to fight another day?

And remember: we’re just regular folk.

Now keeping that in mind, knowing what we presumably know about what’s taking place right now on this planet, I want you to consider what it would be like if you were put in Putin’s position. Imagine that you held that level of responsibility and power. Imagine having millions of people who wished you were dead, and entire nations plotting your demise. Imagine that you have millions and millions of people who you are responsible for. Imagine waking up every day knowing you have a say in the fate of your country—both politically and socio-economically—and also the fate of your people, with their history and their future in your hands. Can you fathom what you would do in that position? Knowing the agendas of the world superpowers of U.S./NATO, and what they’re capable of and willing to do?

This forum is an excellent place my friend. There are extraordinary people and minds here, willing to help you learn some of the most magnificent and empowering things available to us. So sometimes, it’s just better for us to listen, take notes, personally investigate, and also admit that sometimes, we simply just don’t understand something yet. I, for one, have to do this often. But by taking the time myself to see where, how and why certain conclusions came to be, I discover the power this forum has to offer. I hope that you see the gift this network has to offer as well.

 

[Goemon_]

There is this quote attributed to Montesquieu:

"The real responsible for the war is not the one who starts it but the one who made it necessary."

 

[SevenFeathers]

Pretty interesting that Corbett denies Putin's sainthood and his "The Return" after he became a Sputnik V Salesman.

Corbett denied Putin's sainthood way before that. For example, one of the links in his article is from 2014: Episode 290 - The Enemy of My Enemy - The Corbett Report

Just tell me a little bit of good news! Anything better happening in those timelines?

Maybe I won the lottery!

 

[Menna]

Yes but ... wrong information lead to wrong conclusions, and long-time propaganda leads to extreme feelings like hate. I agree that if @GreyCat do not take the sufficient time to inform and do not overcome his "programmation" (we'll maybe rapidly see it upon his future posts/answers), then yes, "wrong bar, not ready to accept some realities", but i think we can let him the benefit of trying to, and then, yes, this remains the right bar.
If i kinda take his defense here it's because i noticed he's Croatian, and i have a direct comparison with my colleague/employee who is Romanian. She was born with this general hatred towards russia, she explained me a story of country stolen by Russia (i admit i did not much tried to understand who is right in this story). When you add Romania's entry into europe + nato + the anti-russian propaganda put in place since 2007, this did not gave her much chance to get another idea on the subject but continuing to hate Russia. I even fear that she could leave the company because she's very sensitive on the subject and she knows that i like Russians or Putin (even if i explain her that i like them based on their acts/decisions, not blindly) - what I figure out regarding her is that this is a kind of test for her, will she be able to reason with herself ?

Well, a bit longer than i expected at begin but here you know why I think it's worth at least to see if GreyCat, as my colleague, manages to slowly see through the/some lies, or not, or not yet. Time will tell.

To be fair it was said …

Oh dear. I think you walked into the wrong bar GreyCat.

I think it’s perfectly fine to say “I think” so and so if somone has an objectively incorrect view point based on discovered facts. Let’s keep in mind no one said get the hell out of the bar…view points or words can be used in whatever way they are used to get a point across but If I say the sky is pink on a forum it’s nice to know what the sentiment of the forum is hence “I Think” wrong bar.

It helps get down to brass tax and then anyone in the community can come in with words they want to use and information for research. Then it’s up to poster to use their instruments to process the posts and the interactions the posts have in their inner environment…. Please let me know if I’m going the wrong way

 

[heinrich]

an explanation by putin on why the war in ukr:

Putin explains why he Ordered Military Operation in Ukraine

 

[Joe]

It seems to me at least, that these days Russia poses a much greater threat to world security then NATO does.