'Santas' attack Istanbul nightclub
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Certainly not a good way to start the New Year.
A year in which Ankara could have been instrumental in implementing the Peace process in Syria along with Russia and Iran. And it's funny too that it happened on the very same day that the Russian proposed resolution was approved by the UN:
https://www.sott.net/article/338280-UN-Security-Council-unanimously-approves-Russian-drafted-resolution-on-Syria-ceasefire
A year in which Ankara could have been instrumental in implementing the Peace process in Syria along with Russia and Iran. And it's funny too that it happened on the very same day that the Russian proposed resolution was approved by the UN:
https://www.sott.net/article/338280-UN-Security-Council-unanimously-approves-Russian-drafted-resolution-on-Syria-ceasefire
TASS reports (in Russian) that the moment of the attack was recorded and shared by Actu17 on Twitter: a man started shooting before entering the club. Couldn't find any links in English yet.
angelburst29
The Living Force
Siberia said:
At least 35 killed in nightclub attack in Istanbul — mayor
http://tass.com/world/923599
At least 35 people were killed and more than 40 injured in an attack on a night club in Istanbul, the Millyet newspaper said Sunday citing the city’s governor.
"It is a terrorist attack. According the to latest information, 35 our citizens died, including one police officer. Some 40 people are known to have been injured," Istanbul governor Vasip Sahin was quoted as saying by the Anadolu news agency.
Unidentified gunmen attacked the Reina night club in the Ortakoy district where some 700-800 revelers were attending a New Year party. Earlier, local TV reported that the attackers wore Santa Claus outfits.
Up to 70 ambulance vehicles and numerous police units arrived at the scene.
Russian diplomats are trying to find out whether Russian citizens were killed or injured in the deadly shooting, a Russian consulate employee told TASS Sunday. "We are establishing all circumstances," the diplomat said.
At least 39 killed, 69 injured in Istanbul nightclub terrorist attack (GRAPHIC VIDEOS)
https://www.rt.com/news/372394-istanbul-night-club-newyear-attack/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzGcNsLVcrU
Turkey’s interior minister, Suleyman Soylu, told Turkish media on Sunday morning that 21 victims have been identified so far, of whom 16 were foreign nationals and five Turkish citizens.
Soylu said that the shooter is still at large. “The search operation for the terrorist is ongoing,” the minister said.
Conflicting reports have been claiming that one or two gunmen were involved.
Immediately after the attack, Istanbul’s governor Vasip Şahin said 35 people were killed and 40 wounded, calling the incident a terrorist attack. The Guardian also cited “government officials” as saying that the attacker was killed and police were leaving the scene.
Speaking about the circumstances of the attack, Şahin said that the assailant first killed the police officer, who was standing at the door of the club, and then went on a rampage inside, killing innocent civilians.
‘Soaked in blood’: Istanbul club attack survivors share terrifying accounts of shooting & stampede
https://www.rt.com/news/372401-istanbul-attack-club-survivors/
According to Uyanik, there were at least two gunmen at the club who were shooting randomly at people.
35 Dead, 40 Injured After Gunmen Open Fire at Popular Nightclub in Istanbul (Video)
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201701011049169726-istanbul-nightclub-attack/
Istanbul's Reina nightclub has been attacked, local media are reporting. A Turkish TV channel has shown footage of armoured police vehicles on the street outside the club.
Istanbul Governor Vasip Sahin announced that at least 35 people were killed and 40 injured as a result of the attack on the nightclub in Istanbul's Ortakoy district. Guests at the club are sharing footage of bodies lying in the street on social media.
According to Turkey's NTV channel, two attackers were involved in the Reina nightclub attack. The shooters were wearing Santa Claus costumes,
according to media reports.
The police forces are searching the building, it is being reported. There were from 700 to 800 people in the Istanbul’s nightclub Reina, local media reported. The attackers were reportedly speaking Arabic.
Attacker With Long-Range Weapon Killed 35 at Reina Nightclub: Governor (VIDEO
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201701011049171019-reina-club-one-attacker/
"A terrorist with a long-range weapon… brutally and savagely carried out this incident by firing bullets on innocent people who were there solely to celebrate the New Year and have fun," Vasip Sahin told reporters, according to the BBC.
Initial reports said there were two or more attackers involved in the act of terrorism has killed 39 and injured at least 69. Witnesses say the gunman or gunmen were speaking Arabic.
Sahin said the gunman killed a police officer and a civilian outside the club before firing on the crowd inside at around 1:45 a.m. There may have been as many as 800 people inside, local media are reporting. Revelers even jumped into the Bosphorus to escape the hail of bullets, according to social media reports.
The following footage is said to be from a security camera inside the club.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apJIWlUNwbM (0:05 min.)
Turkish police have now cordoned off the club, local media report. According to Turkey's Hurriyet newspaper, security forces are also patrolling the Bosphorus Strait near the site of the attack.
Reina Club Owner: US Intelligence Warned About Terror Attack in Istanbul
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201701011049170589-istanbul-reina-club-terrorist-attack-usa-intelligence/
The US intelligence warned about planned terrorist attack in Istanbul, Mehmet Kocarslan, owner of the attacked Reina club, said on Sunday.
The US intelligence warned about the terror attack. Increased security measures were taken here 7 – 10 days ago. So what? That has happened,” Kocarslan told the Hurriyet newspaper. The media outlet also reported that the attacker had used a Kalashnikov assault rifle.
Istanbul Nightclub Attack Perpetrator Killed
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201701011049171985-istanbul-nightclub-shooter-killed/
A perpetrator of the attack on Istanbul’s Reina nightclub was killed, The Guardian reported on Sunday citing Turkish officials.
Well if that is a message, it is more then just a little macabre.
A couple of days ago, Erdogan was the first president of a major country (geopolitically speaking), that said straight out that the US/coalition is directly supporting ISIS, and that they have picture and video material to proof it. On the same token, just a couple of days ago, the turks finalized their turkish stream plan, together with the help of russia. Links follow:
Erodogans statement:
-Turkey's Erdogan: 'Confirmed evidence' US-led coalition supports ISIS & other terrorists in Syria
The turkish stream and russia:
-Turkish government ratifies agreement on Turkish Stream
- Gazprom approves loan for Turkish stream
-Gazprom Plans to Lend Subsidiary $326 Mln to Finance Turkish Stream
-Gazprom to grant 310M euros for Turkish Stream’s construction
And that some of the gunman were apparently dressed in Santa Claus costumes, might be part of that macabre warning, since the original man, on which the Santa Claus story was build, was called Saint Nicholas and was living in Myra (now Demre) in Lycia, a province of the Byzantine Empire, now in Turkey. Apparently Saint Nicholas was not only living in turkey, but because of his generous and good deeds there, he became a saint for the christians and later the model on which Santa Claus was build.
A couple of days ago, Erdogan was the first president of a major country (geopolitically speaking), that said straight out that the US/coalition is directly supporting ISIS, and that they have picture and video material to proof it. On the same token, just a couple of days ago, the turks finalized their turkish stream plan, together with the help of russia. Links follow:
Erodogans statement:
-Turkey's Erdogan: 'Confirmed evidence' US-led coalition supports ISIS & other terrorists in Syria
The turkish stream and russia:
-Turkish government ratifies agreement on Turkish Stream
- Gazprom approves loan for Turkish stream
-Gazprom Plans to Lend Subsidiary $326 Mln to Finance Turkish Stream
-Gazprom to grant 310M euros for Turkish Stream’s construction
And that some of the gunman were apparently dressed in Santa Claus costumes, might be part of that macabre warning, since the original man, on which the Santa Claus story was build, was called Saint Nicholas and was living in Myra (now Demre) in Lycia, a province of the Byzantine Empire, now in Turkey. Apparently Saint Nicholas was not only living in turkey, but because of his generous and good deeds there, he became a saint for the christians and later the model on which Santa Claus was build.
Historically, in Turkey, leftists were almost the only party who consistently have had a firm stand against the fascist control efforts by the US both in Turkey and also around the world. But due to the dominant US control in Turkey, leftists have almost always been undermined politically although they have never ceased their activities and their influence. And although Mustafa Kemal was the great victorious anti-imperialist founder of the modern nation, the political party he specifically established, the Republican People’s Party (CHP), was gradually co-opted by the PTB and became one of their tools to a great extent. Although Kemalism is supposed to be strictly anti-imperialistic, his political party (the only political party for some time) and his army, the Turkish Armed Forces, have gradually become one of the most critical allies of the US and Israel in the region. And although there has always been a strong opposition between secularist Kemalists and political Islamists, two of the most important politically charged circles in Turkey, neither of them has actually opposed the obvious US domination of Turkey. Almost all Islamists in Turkey are rightist but it has always been controversial to what extent Kemalism and the CHP are leftist. The Party is supposed to be of the central left but as it came under covert US control, its leftism has just been a lip service although a significant part of its public base consists of sincere leftist and progressivist people. I believe that some elitist influential rulers of the party covertly made a deal with the US and the public base of the Party has been betrayed to a significant extent. There has been many covert US-led political pressures, conflicts and atrocities which led to significant divisions and conflicts among various categories of the nation, and the most of the Kemalist public base were led to believe that the main problem was about the opponents of the so-called Kemalist regime. More or less, the same applied to Islamists vice versa.
The AKP was most probably a US project in its beginnings. Majority of the rightist/Islamist people in Turkey have had no actual objection to US domination. Erdogan himself proudly stated that he was made a co-chairman of the Greater Middle East Initiative. But, I think, after Erdogan won the stupendous support of a significant part of the nation, he found the strength and courage to object to the share supplied by the PTB for his cooperation. He tripped Gulen up. He wanted more of the cake. And the more he was denied what he wanted, the more disobedient he became. The Syrian defeat, which extremely disappointed Erdogan, was probably the last straw that broke the camel’s back. Then he made an extremely unexpected move by showing the signs of shifting to the Russian-led bloc probably thanks to the very smart moves by Putin. I believe this is why the PTB has decided to down Erdogan.
I think this is a very strange turn of fate and, if it does not deviate itself, a gradual and great revolution no less than that made by Ataturk himself. Although Kemalists have been very keen to accuse Erdogan of being a US minion, they themselves still lack the insight and the courage to question the extent at which their own Kemalist Party and the Kemalist National Army helped the US domination ominously settle in Turkey in betrayal of the actual Kemalist legacy. What makes the situation still more interesting is that a majority of the AKP’s public base have also been caught in this political shift very unprepared. Many of them are very suspicious and anxious about the speed at which Erdogan loosens some hardcore policies based on political Sunni Islam, which tends to strictly oppose the “infidel Muscovy”. So I believe that what Erdogan does now will be leading to some significant inner questionings in all political circles.
The AKP was most probably a US project in its beginnings. Majority of the rightist/Islamist people in Turkey have had no actual objection to US domination. Erdogan himself proudly stated that he was made a co-chairman of the Greater Middle East Initiative. But, I think, after Erdogan won the stupendous support of a significant part of the nation, he found the strength and courage to object to the share supplied by the PTB for his cooperation. He tripped Gulen up. He wanted more of the cake. And the more he was denied what he wanted, the more disobedient he became. The Syrian defeat, which extremely disappointed Erdogan, was probably the last straw that broke the camel’s back. Then he made an extremely unexpected move by showing the signs of shifting to the Russian-led bloc probably thanks to the very smart moves by Putin. I believe this is why the PTB has decided to down Erdogan.
I think this is a very strange turn of fate and, if it does not deviate itself, a gradual and great revolution no less than that made by Ataturk himself. Although Kemalists have been very keen to accuse Erdogan of being a US minion, they themselves still lack the insight and the courage to question the extent at which their own Kemalist Party and the Kemalist National Army helped the US domination ominously settle in Turkey in betrayal of the actual Kemalist legacy. What makes the situation still more interesting is that a majority of the AKP’s public base have also been caught in this political shift very unprepared. Many of them are very suspicious and anxious about the speed at which Erdogan loosens some hardcore policies based on political Sunni Islam, which tends to strictly oppose the “infidel Muscovy”. So I believe that what Erdogan does now will be leading to some significant inner questionings in all political circles.
munaychasumaq
Dagobah Resident
Very bad start for Turkey after Endorgan said the USA coalition are supporting ISIS and has material to prove it.Things will be worst in the followings days.Just keep our eyes open and clear our ears.
Another very interesting development here:
UN Security Council approves Russian-drafted resolution on Syria ceasefire
The resultion has been unanimously passed in by the Security Council about the syrian situation. As Daniele Ganser describes a bit in his new book, called "illegal wars" (unfortunately only available in german, as of yet), a passed resolution from the security council is binding and has to be implemented, in contrast to resultions by the General Assembly, which are not binding and are just there as recommendations on what to do.
The last days it seemed like there was not going to be anything passed in the security council, since some members were not happy with the resolution, as presented. The resultion was created/put forward by russia and turkey. So then russia stepped in and made a new attempt (aka reframing that proposal), and then yesterday it was passed unanimously . Which means that all parties in the security council agreed to it, including the US. Which is more then just a bit astounding, to say the least. The resolution is about the peace process in Syria and it apparently has a interesting bit in it, namely the creation of a "transitional government". I think that might be the main reason why the resolution was passed, (and was probably drafted in a nifty way by the russians, for that reason!), so that US and Co. can agree on it, since it appears to give them the right/opportunity "to get rid of Assad".
Will be interesting what exactly installing a "transitional government" actually means and how that process is exactly worded in the document. I think (I'm not sure though) the Santa attack happened just a couple of hours after the passing of that resolution.
It almost sounds like some kind of mossad/zionist agenda, could be behind that massacre. Part of the message might be, sending a message to christians (against holy Saint Nicholas and all he stands for) and muslims at the same time (being in turkey, where Erdogan is president), apart from not being happy about the directions in syria.
THis resolution in the security council is probably also a direct result of the talks between russia, turkey and iran, a couple of weeks ago where shortly before that the russian embassador was shot dead in turkey. No coincidence I think.
UN Security Council approves Russian-drafted resolution on Syria ceasefire
The resultion has been unanimously passed in by the Security Council about the syrian situation. As Daniele Ganser describes a bit in his new book, called "illegal wars" (unfortunately only available in german, as of yet), a passed resolution from the security council is binding and has to be implemented, in contrast to resultions by the General Assembly, which are not binding and are just there as recommendations on what to do.
The last days it seemed like there was not going to be anything passed in the security council, since some members were not happy with the resolution, as presented. The resultion was created/put forward by russia and turkey. So then russia stepped in and made a new attempt (aka reframing that proposal), and then yesterday it was passed unanimously . Which means that all parties in the security council agreed to it, including the US. Which is more then just a bit astounding, to say the least. The resolution is about the peace process in Syria and it apparently has a interesting bit in it, namely the creation of a "transitional government". I think that might be the main reason why the resolution was passed, (and was probably drafted in a nifty way by the russians, for that reason!), so that US and Co. can agree on it, since it appears to give them the right/opportunity "to get rid of Assad".
Will be interesting what exactly installing a "transitional government" actually means and how that process is exactly worded in the document. I think (I'm not sure though) the Santa attack happened just a couple of hours after the passing of that resolution.
It almost sounds like some kind of mossad/zionist agenda, could be behind that massacre. Part of the message might be, sending a message to christians (against holy Saint Nicholas and all he stands for) and muslims at the same time (being in turkey, where Erdogan is president), apart from not being happy about the directions in syria.
THis resolution in the security council is probably also a direct result of the talks between russia, turkey and iran, a couple of weeks ago where shortly before that the russian embassador was shot dead in turkey. No coincidence I think.
happyliza
The Living Force
Israel must certainly be having a bad hair day this past week! With The Peace accord, Russia and Putin working together, the pipline signed and Obama with the UN illegal settlements and occupied Palestine re-advertising all the try to keep hidden. Now Bibi being investigated (strange at this particular time). I don't think, I hope, it is not going to be a good year for them.
But also so many innocent victims die in their revenge/warning stakes.
I can't believe the nightclub owner knew the likelihood of an attack.
Also who warns of attacks - normally the ones doing such - Mossad.
However. Erdogan bred and fed terrorists and still does - shipping 150 to Yemen last two days. So he will have many who now call him a traitor.
Plus he is half way to getting his government to allow him to be a dictator until 2029! Where he can do precisely what Obama has just been doing! And worse.
But also so many innocent victims die in their revenge/warning stakes.
I can't believe the nightclub owner knew the likelihood of an attack.
Also who warns of attacks - normally the ones doing such - Mossad.
However. Erdogan bred and fed terrorists and still does - shipping 150 to Yemen last two days. So he will have many who now call him a traitor.
Plus he is half way to getting his government to allow him to be a dictator until 2029! Where he can do precisely what Obama has just been doing! And worse.
There was another horrible event in Brazil:
http://eurasiadiary.com/news/world/96110-shooter-kills-at-least-11-and-himself-at-brazil-new-years-party
http://eurasiadiary.com/news/world/96110-shooter-kills-at-least-11-and-himself-at-brazil-new-years-party
What I can never understand is how no one seems to express any suspicion when it's revealed that warnings were given in advance by US intelligence services.
At what point is it acceptable to view such warnings (of which there have been many) as predictions, with foreknowledge and likely complicity?
The CIA et al offer these warnings because it increases their "stock" as the "all seeing eye" they'd like everyone to think they are, and therefore increase dependency on and collaboration with them by other countries.
With such intel agencies operating as 'ramified networks' and very much compartmentalized, it's possible that one compartment is directly or indirectly involved in planning the attack through their proxies, and then passes that information as "chatter" they "picked up" to another section of the CIA that then goes public with it.
