sarkozy

[judvic]

Hi,

In France it is interesting to see, behind the marketing, what Mr Sarkozy has been actually doing:

1 He is starting to implement Video cameras all over the country, like Mr Blair did.
2 A repressive package is being examined by the parliament
3 A tax reform is being implemented that allows the richest to pay considerably less
4 A program for "an ownership society" (société de propriétaire) is being implemented (encourage people to buy homes) (same moto as Neo cons)
5 Destruction of organised political resistance by ruining the credit of the Socialist Party
6 Going after his opponents (like Villepin and Chirac)
7 Filinf people including children
8 Restricting access to knowledge (university package)

Point number 5 is interesting.
Prominent members of the main opposition party joining the government just days after the election shows clearly that the official divisions don't matter, and that behind the scene, powerful organisations are at work. Usually leaving the appearence of an opposition is usefull for the Rulers because it acts as a safety valve for the system. Now, why doesn't Sarkozy grant himself a safety valve?
Maybe some events in the near future will require a Leader Maximo, a "sacred alliance" (in fact a totalitarian dictatorship).

the rest of the program is similar to what Bush has been doing in the USA.

Ludovic

 

[Z...]

Btw what was the outcome of those student protests against socials reforms that happened while ago? It was all over the news and then we never heard anything about it.

it seems France has succumbed to the Beast long before Sarkoma manifested

 

[judvic]

Btw what was the outcome of those student protests against socials reforms that happened while ago? It was all over the news and then we never heard anything about it.

it seems France has succumbed to the Beast long before Sarkoma manifested

Well, the protests were directed against a bill that gave birth to a new contract for young workers. This contract included a 2 year probaroty period where the worker could be fired without any explanation.
The idea originated from Villepin.

The failure of the government to pass the bill and the mass demonstration have ruined the chance of Villepin to run for the presidency.
And thus cleared the way for Sarkozy.

So, objectively, the one that benifited most from these demonstations is Sarkozy himself. Some commentators noted that Sarkozy did nothing to help Villepin at the time...

Ludovic

 

[Adaryn]

5 Destruction of organised political resistance by ruining the credit of the Socialist Party

Sarkozy is "buying" members of the socialist party.
He has bought and incorporated members of the Center (ex-UDF).
He has absorbed the National Front voters, the NF is dying.
The Communist party is almost dead.
All opposition is annihilated. Thus, who will stay in the end ? Sarkozy.
Yes, leader maximo, or the nation's little father, or Big Brother.

 

[Laura]

It's interesting to observe. The PTB obviously think that since the populaces of the U.S. and UK have not risen against their leaders in spite of Bush's low approval ratings and Blair's obvious disgrace (though they act like he's just a regular PM leaving office for regular reasons), that France will fall in line with no problem. And maybe they are right: maybe France is the "third domino".

But I wonder... pathological types always and ever in history have mis-read the normal human being because they do not understand human emotion and creativity and that the combination of these two factors, when put under certain pressures, can produce unpredictable non-linear reactions.

The "Let them eat cake" and "After us, the deluge" mentality of the deviant elite that preceded the French Revolution typifies this blindness. Lobaczewski writes:

Maintaining the utmost dignity and style, [the] leaders discusses opinions and intentions which are psychologically and morally pathological. Any intellectual connections which might reveal them as such are eliminated [from their minds and discourse], thanks to the substitution of premises operating in the proper subconscious process on the basis of prior conditioned reflexes. The [group of deviant elites] enters the state wherein the whole has donned the mask of ostensible normality.

But this cannot last for long because, as Lobaczewski also points out:

The pathological authorities are convinced that the appropriate pedagogical, indoctrinational, propaganda, and terrorist means can teach a person with a normal instinctive substratum, range of feelings, and basic intelligence to think and feel according to their own different fashion. This conviction is only slightly less unrealistic, psychologically speaking, than the belief that people able to see colors normally can be broken of this habit.

Actually, normal people cannot get rid of the characteristics with which the Homo sapiens species was endowed by its phylogenetic past. Such people will thus never stop feeling and perceiving psychological and socio-moral phenomena in much the same way their ancestors had been doing for hundreds of generations. Any attempt to make a society subjugated to the above phenomenon "learn" this different experiential manner imposed by pathological egotism is, in principle, fated for failure regardless of how many generations it might last. [...]

Pathocratic leadership believes that it can achieve a state wherein those "other" people's minds become dependent by means of the effects of their personality, perfidious pedagogical means, the means of mass-information, and psychological terror; such faith has a basic meaning for them. In their conceptual world, pathocrats consider it virtually self-evident that the "others" should accept their obvious, realistic, and simple way of apprehending reality. For some mysterious reason, though, the "others" wriggle out, slither away, and tell each other jokes. Someone must be responsible for this, pre-revolutionary oldsters, or some radio stations abroad. It thus becomes necessary to improve the methodology of action, find better "soul engineers" with a certain literary talent, and isolate society from improper literature and any foreign influence. Those experiences and intuitions whispering that this is a Sisyphean labor must be repressed from the field of consciousness.

The conflict is thus dramatic for both sides. The first feels insulted in its humanity, rendered obtuse, and forced to think in a manner contrary to healthy common sense. The other stifles the premonition that if this goal cannot be reached, sooner or later things will revert to normal man’s rule, including their vengeful lack of understanding of the pathocrats’ personalities. So if it does not work, it is best not to think about the future, just prolong the status quo...

So, basically, the deviant elite are in a state of psychological repression of the Truth themselves. I don't think they really understand the consequences - that they are literally inviting destruction upon themselves. Things will work for a while, their methods will work for awhile, but they always and ever - ALWAYS - go too far. That is their nature and they cannot help it. They seek power and control and do not know when to stop because they cannot know! They don't have the hardware.

 

[Adaryn]

So, basically, the deviant elite are in a state of psychological repression of the Truth themselves. I don't think they really understand the consequences - that they are literally inviting destruction upon themselves. Things will work for a while, their methods will work for awhile, but they always and ever - ALWAYS - go too far. That is their nature and they cannot help it. They seek power and control and do not know when to stop because they cannot know! They don't have the hardware.

We see this happening with Sarkozy : he's already going too far, he has no limits. He wants to control EVERYTHING, doing the job of the PM, going everywhere, seeing everyone. He thinks he's omniscient and omnipotent. He doesn't realise, he doesn't see that by courting other parties' members, he's creating a lot of frutration and discontent in his own camp of supporters. There has already been "misunderstandings" inside his party since he was elected, but when you see his officials on TV, that's the top of hypocrisy : "everyone is united behind the president" "the French have given a clear message that they want Nicolas Sarkozy to carry out the reforms" (yeah right, a clear message ? What about their 313 seats won at the legislative election, whereas they were expecting a UMP "blue wave" with more than 400 seats ?).
All is well that ends well, and everyboy is so happy in the bravest new world ! They're overly confident and feel very strong and mighty.
That's wishful thinking it its best, and we can expect that this is what will lose them in the end.

 

[judvic]

It's interesting to observe. The PTB obviously think that since the populaces of the U.S. and UK have not risen against their leaders in spite of Bush's low approval ratings and Blair's obvious disgrace (though they act like he's just a regular PM leaving office for regular reasons), that France will fall in line with no problem. And maybe they are right: maybe France is the "third domino".

Is there something special about the French people that should prevent himfrom being the third domino? I don't kow anymore. I used to think so but I was wrong in my analysis: I had thought that French people would never elect Sarkozy and wouldn't be fooled by him.
To my amazement I saw a huge number of people I knew, from different background, vote for him. A lot of teenagers too were impressed by him...
I am afraid that people react mechanicaly in France as anywhere else and the stimulis are strong in the medias, in school (maybe as much in UK or USA?).

But I wonder... pathological types always and ever in history have mis-read the normal human being because they do not understand human emotion and creativity and that the combination of these two factors, when put under certain pressures, can produce unpredictable non-linear reactions.

The "Let them eat cake" and "After us, the deluge" mentality of the deviant elite that preceded the French Revolution typifies this blindness.

The pressure being probably the lack of food. 14 July 1789 was the day bread was the more expensive... But the French revolution was lead by a counter elite, the bourgeoisie, for reasons that were mainly economic reasons (in this case I suscribe to Marx's explanation) even if the Free Masons, who lead this revolution, put forward a new conception of Society and showed, more or less sincerely, an interest in making things better for the ordinaray man.
I wonder if there is today such a counter elite that could lead the way to a new stage?
By the way this opens the big question: have our societies improved? I tend to say yes, but when one reads Gurdjieff or Ouspenski or Mouravieff one understands that such progress is mere illusion.

So, basically, the deviant elite are in a state of psychological repression of the Truth themselves. I don't think they really understand the consequences - that they are literally inviting destruction upon themselves. Things will work for a while, their methods will work for awhile, but they always and ever - ALWAYS - go too far. That is their nature and they cannot help it. They seek power and control and do not know when to stop because they cannot know! They don't have the hardware.

Do you think this is a law? Don't they also improve? Will their master let them comit these mistakes? Isn't technology helping them to keep control?
These are the questions that have been haunting me recently.
I would say that to the end of the end your vision is optimistic. Despite my reading a lot of the material you quote, I don't manage yet to be convinced that something can be done when the time comes...


Ludovic