Satellites collide

Actually, it is comet Lulin (no "g").

Here is a link to an article about it found on SOTT.net
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/176608-Lulin-Comet-Making-One-Time-Only-Visit-Next-Week
 
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the volume of space debris in Low Earth orbit is so high that objects in orbit are frequently struck by debris, creating even more debris and a greater risk of further impacts.

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This thought was in my mind when I posted the photo. Even if this photo is only an impression, there must be a fair number of satellites orbiting Earth now, with more being sent up each week, or so it seems. Collisions under these conditions seem inevitable sooner or later, osit. That isn't to imply that the surmisings of other forumites are wrong, though.

The only surprise here is that the recent (and first) Iranian satellite wasn't involved. Fwiw.
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bedower,

I think you may be allowing yourself to believe information that appears to be disinformation. While the photo was at first impressive, it does not relate to the reality of space surrounding this planet. Yes I would agree that there is a lot of space junk orbiting this planet, but it is not to the extent that you are suggesting. All satellites orbiting this planet are layered within the orbiting space, and tracked to within a few inches. With exception of those units that fail and can no longer be controlled, all are tracked and managed on a daily basis. This is why the so called 'collision' stands out. It makes zero sense for this to have ever happened, unless something else was involved. I don't have the answer, but I am sensing that the PTB had a reason for allowing this to happen, or worse, setting it up to happen to cover up something else.

Ask yourself, 'If the low flying space debris field were as stated in your quote, how could anyone safely launch anything into orbit?'
I am not saying these debris do not exist, but that they are tracked, and are managed in a manner that makes it possible to continue sending up satellites and other units without risking the huge investments involved.

OSIT,

gwb
 
Thanks for your reassurance, gwb. I go along with the photo being an impression; just thought it fitted in with the subject of the thread, that's all.

Are there any figures or statistics that tell us exactly how many satellites are in orbit, and who they belong to? It might be interesting to know, as it would surely be hard to 'sneak' one up without it being tracked by some organisation somewhere.

And, fwiw, I think there are sats up there that CAN and DO track individuals. But maybe I've just been watching too much Hollywood propaganda!

Interesting being in the front seat, isn't it?
 
Some other strange news, regarding collisions from up above.

By The Associated Press

WASHINGTON - The crew of the international space station had a close call with space junk Thursday. The three astronauts briefly took refuge inside a Russian escape capsule before returning inside the space station. Officials moved them into the capsule because they were worried that the orbiting outpost might get hit with a small piece of passing space debris.



"We've cleared," station commander Mike Fincke radioed to Mission Control in Houston as he prepared to go back inside.

The debris measured about a third of an inch, part of a motor that helped boost a satellite into the proper orbit, said NASA spokesman Kyle Herring. Tiny pieces of debris could cause a fatal loss of air pressure in the station.

NASA usually tries to move the space station out of the way of space junk, but they got this warning Wednesday night when it was too late to move the station, Herring said.

Instead, NASA sent the crew to the Soyuz capsule, a move that has been done in the past, Herring said. A Soyuz capsule is parked at the space station to serve as a lifeboat if needed for the station's residents.

The piece of debris was expected to come within the 2.8 mile box of space around the station that makes up NASA's danger zone, Herring said.

"We were looking out the Soyuz window," Fincke radioed to Houston. "We didn't see anything of course. We were wondering how close we were."

Because the U.S. Strategic Command, which monitors space debris, could not get a good enough look at the debris, NASA may never know exactly how close it came, said NASA spokesman Josh Byerly. It was traveling 5.5 miles per second -- about 20,000 mph, according to Byerly.

The debris is likely a tiny weight followed by a 39-inch string or strand that was used to stabilize a global positioning satellite placed in orbit in May 1993, said Harvard astrophysicist Jonathan McDowell, who tracks all objects in orbit.

One of the reasons NASA got such late warning on the debris is that it is an unusual orbit that keeps dipping into the atmosphere and changing, McDowell said. The GPS satellite went out of daily use in January, he said.

Fincke is one of two Americans living aboard the space station; the third resident is Russian.
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_http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/International_Space_Station_Evacuated
 
Laura said:
Do we believe this story?
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Which part? The part that they actually had to run away in the Soyuz capsule, or the excuse of the cause of the running away being space junk?

It would be interesting to hear what was the opinion of the two astronauts and the cosmonaut about the event. They have a first hand experience of what is happening above our atmosphere. Do you think that if they knew what was referred as space junk is actually meteors/interstellar dust they would come what telling the truth. I remember reading somewhere years ago stories of astronauts of the Apollo missions telling about strange things is the Moon and around our planet.
There is always the hypotheses that they don´t know either and are being fooled. I really don´t know what is the perception of an astronaut on-board the ISS of the things around them. Perhaps only through the windows is the perception they have, and they relay on info from NASA.
 
Laura said:
Do we believe this story?
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My thought was that the public was being conditioned by this probably fictitious story (and other recent space debris stories) to accept the following as "facts":

1. There is a tremendous amount of space debris/junk orbiting in space. The problem is man-made and is becoming worse all the time.
2. Some of the space debris is extremely small but they are able to precisely tell us the origin of each of these pieces of space junk. However, since the orbits can be erratic, they cannot predict the exact path and provide much, if any, advance warning (even to the ISS supposedly in this case).
3. Some of the space junk is periodically now entering our atmosphere and one would conclude that this problem will become more and more common in the future.

These "facts" would then come in handy for use by the PTB later on to explain why additional space objects (comet fragments) continue to enter our atmosphere unannounced creating sonic booms and worse.
 
Latest on colliding satellites: _http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090316/ap_on_sc/space_shuttle
Now it makes sense. They have fabricated this collision thing in order to cover up all this activities in Earth's orbit and use this event for explaining to public why are they moving ISS here and there.
NASA has moved the space station out of the way of debris eight times in the past, most recently in August, according to NASA records.
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Perseids perhaps, anyone? There wasn't any satellite collisions back then?

Well I guess this is pretty close to what are they experiencing up there, probably not so dramatic, yet.
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-ctdhU5bp8

and this comes next
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L70wJavN3vI&feature=PlayList&p=144257D4F5967077&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=20
 
I just wanted to document this one here, it seems like we're on a roll this year with the collision stuff. We have 2 satellites, 2 submarines, and now a ship and a submarine:

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/179617-US-Navy-vessels-collide-near-Iran

Two US Navy vessels - a submarine and an amphibious ship - collided early on Friday in the Strait of Hormuz between Iran and the Arabian peninsula, the US Navy's 5th Fleet reported.

The military said in a statement the USS Hartford, a submarine, and the USS New Orleans, an amphibious ship, collided around 1 am local time.

According to the Bahrain-based 5th Fleet, 15 sailors aboard the Hartford were slightly injured but able to return to duty. No injuries were reported aboard the New Orleans.
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And so far I think we had about 3 sizeable meteors come very close to earth this year (closer than the moon). I dunno if there's any kind of symbolic (or not symbolic, like if the collisions are supposed to distract from meteors or something) relationship here..

It reminds me of the crane collapses/crashes all last year. Do we have another message from the universe starting to come in? This is more and more a "smashing" year isn't it?
 
Good catch SOA.

SOA said:
It reminds me of the crane collapses/crashes all last year. Do we have another message from the universe starting to come in? This is more and more a "smashing" year isn't it?
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I'm starting to think the same.
If the cranes where collapsing at the time the economy was on its way to 'collapse' (as sott kept warning about) before the public reveal as it where, then if we follow the pattern (presuming there is one) of things colliding on the way to a 'collision' (that sott keeps warning us about)....I think this may be a lesson in how to pay attention (knowledge+awareness) to the theological meaning of events. There was also the uncovering of ww2 bombs if I recall, I wonder how that fits?
As to what form a collision may take....appart from comets/asteroids, I did notice that the number of reported UFO sightings keeps going up (or so it seems). Perhaps then it will also be a collision of worlds?
Hopefully I'm not going off on a tangent with all this...I'm getting some pretty strong deja vu considering all this.
 
SAO said:
I just wanted to document this one here, it seems like we're on a roll this year with the collision stuff. We have 2 satellites, 2 submarines, and now a ship and a submarine:

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/179617-US-Navy-vessels-collide-near-Iran

Two US Navy vessels - a submarine and an amphibious ship - collided early on Friday in the Strait of Hormuz between Iran and the Arabian peninsula, the US Navy's 5th Fleet reported.

The military said in a statement the USS Hartford, a submarine, and the USS New Orleans, an amphibious ship, collided around 1 am local time.

According to the Bahrain-based 5th Fleet, 15 sailors aboard the Hartford were slightly injured but able to return to duty. No injuries were reported aboard the New Orleans.
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If it is symbolic, I find it interesting that both ships were American and they were near Iran. Like the mixed (colliding?) signals towards Iran from the Obama administration. They send a message to stimulate diplomatic relationships, yet they support sanctions towards Iran and there has been no real change in policy so far.

And so far I think we had about 3 sizeable meteors come very close to earth this year (closer than the moon). I dunno if there's any kind of symbolic (or not symbolic, like if the collisions are supposed to distract from meteors or something) relationship here..

It reminds me of the crane collapses/crashes all last year. Do we have another message from the universe starting to come in? This is more and more a "smashing" year isn't it?
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It could be. We'll have to wait and see.

I counted two close calls of asteroids this month. Do you have a link to the third one? (I'm assuming it was earlier this year.)
 
And another dodging again. Looks like its getting "bumpy" up there! :cool2:

From:_http://refreshingnews.blogspot.com/2009/03/us-space-shuttle-moves-to-avoid-junk.html

Monday, March 23, 2009
US space shuttle moves to avoid junk
The astronauts aboard the International Space Station and space shuttle Discovery have been instructed to move out of the way of a four-inch piece of space junk, the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) said Sunday.

According to the space agency, Discovery's pilots fired their ship's thrusters to avoid the junk, which is likely to uncomfortably approach the station Monday.

NASA said keeping the spacecraft in this position for about three hours is enough to get the space station and Discovery out of the junk.

It's the third time this month that the space station was confronting a space junk. On March 12, astronauts aboard the space station took emergent refuge in Russia's Soyuz capsule in case of a collision with a flying debris cloud. And last week, the space station almost had to dodge yet another piece of junk.

On Saturday, astronauts Steven Swanson and Joseph Acaba finished the second of three planned spacewalks to make preparation for NASA's future space shuttle mission and the debut flight of a Japanese cargo ship. During the spacewalk, they loosened connections on batteries on the external Port 6 truss, ready for their replacement on a later mission in June.

The two also installed a GPS antenna to the outside of the station's Japanese module. The GPS device will help guide the Japanese HTV robotic spacecraft, a cargo transfer vehicle to be put into operation later this year.

Other tasks include outfitting the station's truss with attachments for experiments and cargo platforms and using an infrared camera to photograph radiator panels so engineers can assess how they have withstood the harsh space environment.

However, they accidentally inserted a pin upside down and jammed an equipment storage platform at the International Space Station.

One more spacewalk is planned next Monday during Discovery's mission.

Discovery was launched into space last Sunday night. During its stay with the station, three spacewalks will be conducted by astronauts. If all goes well, it is scheduled to undock from the station March 25, towards a planned March 27 landing at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida.
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Wow! Things are getting really active up there, I think.
 
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