Session 1 November 2025

[Gaby]

If it visits the inner solar system only every 26 million years, as the C's have said, then the chances of living within 500 years of that are 0.002%. Even being incarnated in the same 10,000 years that the Twin Sun visits is only a 0.04% chance.

May you live in interesting times!

Well, the Cs would never give the exact number. It's close enough for horseshoes.

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Q: (L) We have been discussing this period of the Brown Star. Is this period 26 or 27 million years?

A: Close.

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(Mark) Regarding the 27 million year orbit of the twin sun, how did people...

(L) Well, we never confirmed that it was exactly 27 million. That was one of the top contenders, but they never would actually tell us. But nevertheless, I'll ask the question because even if it wasn't exactly 27 million, we know it was somewhere in the ballpark of those numbers.

(Mark) How did people in the past become aware of this?

A: Passed down from former advanced civilization.

Q: (L) So maybe kind of like the knowledge of Sirius B and the African tribe that knows about them. Something like that?

A: Close.

I suppose the "good news" is that it has been 300-400 years now since the companion star passed at the distance of Pluto and there has been no cataclysmic comet bombardment so far.

The 17th century was intense, though. Several comets in the sky, other than comet Halley, were described as "giant", "terrifying", "shining as bright as the sun at midday". This was the century of "Roundheads and Cavaliers", the English Civil War, witch hunting, the Black Death, the Thirty Years War, etc. Yet, as the century progressed, the lowest sun activity was encountered in the period of 1645–1700 when on average definitely less than one sunspot group per year was observed. And it was not due to lack of observation. You would think that all those giant comets would be discharging the solar capacitor, yet, there were no sunspots.

Although the 17th century astronomical letter read in the session can't be verified, this one is:

From Giuseppe Ripamonti, De Peste Quae Fuit Anno 1630 (Milan, 1641), Book V, discussing the Milanese plague: Iosephi Ripamontii canonici Scalensis chronistae vrbis Mediolani De peste quae fuit anno 1630 libri 5 desumpti ex annalibus vrbis quos 60 decurionum autoritate scribebat:

“It was a star of fierce and savage appearance. For at that very time when the apothecaries’ workshops were believed to be most active (and indeed were), that long-haired star appeared — seen by many toward the north — and no one doubted that it portended a long-lasting calamity of the heavens”

Thousands of people were dying in Lombardy from the plague as they saw the above. Other than cataclysmic bombardment, in the plasma discharge model, a lot of the action is from electrical phenomena:

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Q: (L) Well, on that point, McCanney says that when the Earth gets into this kind of situation where there’s a discharge thing going on, between the sun and another body and the earth gets involved in it, that the earth itself becomes comet like during that time and it begins also to attract what he calls pollution events. It starts picking up all kinds of dust and stuff from outer space – and even the water volume on the planet gets increased because of this precipitating, because the planet’s picking stuff up from space. It’s growing from accumulating stuff, from acquiring stuff. And if that’s the case, we could be attracting dust loading in the upper atmosphere-regardless of whether or not we pass through cometary dust clouds. All these things that we’ve been noticing going on in the upper atmosphere – strange clouds, long-lasting contrails, extreme cooling - could be exactly as he described. There could also be atmospheric effects of these electric sheets, because he says that there are different kinds of ways of currents and layers of currents. He’s got like a five layer model of how the electromagnetic field of the planet goes, and he says that it’s the cause of El Niño, it’s the cause of Earthquakes, volcanoes , storms, changing of the Jet Stream, and just a whole host of things: it’s all electrical phenomena. He says that the electricity from the sun creates and drives hurricanes and that it is not the temperature of the water. Because he said that if it had to do with the temperatures of the water, one hurricane comes along, sucks all the heat out – then it would be impossible for another hurricane to form for a period of time. And yet you see very often, hurricane after hurricane. So, is he on to something with this theory?

A: Oh you bet!

 

[Sindy-S.R]

I think that is a big leap to make. Do we know that undergrounders immortal or do you make the assumption that because he was an undergrounder, then he couldn't have died on the island? Even if Napoleon did not die on the island of Saint Helena, it doesn't follow that the story about the doppelgangers therefore is true.

In a way, I agree with you that you drew these conclusions, but before knowing that Napoleon was an Undergrounder (for me, they aren't immortal, they just live much longer than us), I suspected it was his double, not Napoleon himself, who died on Saint Helena.
Now that it's known he was an Undergrounder, the likelihood of this legend being true could increase.

Aeneas@, I'm not saying it's true, just that it's very possible.
I recommend you read this; it gives many details about this legend.

Who killed Napoleon? How did he die? Who is in his tomb?

So why, last summer, did a French lawyer, Bruno Roy-Henri, apply to the French defence ministry for the corpse to be dug up again and DNA-tested? And why did the ministry refuse? The answer to both

www.thetimes.com

 

[observer]

Thanks for sharing the session!

 

[Brewer]

Q: (Niall) Did Napoleon Bonaparte have a specific life mission to help humanity at large?
A: No
Q: (Joe) Was he a deep level punctuator... An undergrounder?
A: Yes

Interesting, so who else throughout history was an undergrounder?
Genghis Khan?
Shaka Zulu?
Any religious figures? Hints are OK. Thanks

 

[Breo]

An amazing session, so much to dig into here! And it was just wonderful to hear that Redrock12 is so joyful. We really are so very blessed to receive this knowledge from the C's, I just can't imagine navigating this insane world without them. Thank you so much Laura, Andromeda and team!

Thank you for expressing all of this. I could not put into words what I felt. Its what you wrote :) So I can only repeat: it was so wonderful to hear about Redrock12´s joy! It´s so uplifting and inspiring to know. And we are very, very blessed to receive this knowledge from the C´s in this growingly insane world. Being very grateful for all the continuous effort and sharing. Thank you all the team!

 

[taratai]

(L) So is it true that the twin sun to our sun, our companion star, has already come and gone and it came during the Little Ice Age / Maunder Minimum?

A: Yes

Q: (L) And from what I have here on my little paper, is that the Little Ice Age lasted from 1450 to 1850, and the Maunder minimum was kind of like a period of particular intensity in the middle of that from 1645 to 1715. So, would it be safe to say that the period of the Maunder minimum within the Little Ice Age was the period when this companion star was closest to earth - or closest to our sun or perihelion?

A: Yes

Q: (L) And since the Little Ice Age lasted from 1450 to 1850, that was the period of its generalized influence?

A: Yes

Q: (L) So that suggests that it takes like 400 years for something like that to pass through the Oort cloud?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) And how long does it take to come back?

A: No dice.

Q: (Joe) Would it be 180 years?

A: No. You will certainly soon be experiencing the effects of this last passage for some time to come.

It occured to me that perhaps we are looking at this entire thing wrong. We are thinking of a giant ball going through a cloud/wall of a lot of smaller balls and disrupting them, or dragging some of them along and scattering them through gravity force.
But what if it's wrong? What if it's just a small part of the picture, and the real kicker, the real danger, comes from elsewhere - the electric current.

You see, our companion will light up if a direct current forms between it and our sun, right? A glowing object forming on the sky that astronomers might interpret as a comet.
But what if that happens when Nemesis is going through the Oort Cloud, or nearby? What if the presence of our companion star charging up starts affecting the Oort Cloud?

By the companion acting like a capacitor, an electric charge passes through the entire Oort Cloud, dragging all the space debris into Nemesis like water down the sink, and further down the current.

Then, like balls falling down a hole, they will rapidly shoot in the direction where the current grounds - not diagonally, not somewhere into space, but straight at our Sun. At us.

That might explain why we're supposed to be seeing this swarm as a singular glowing object at first - they won't be scattered around, they will be following the path of the current.

 

[Benjamin]

Thank you very much for the session! I always feel better somehow after reading them. Some finds and thoughts with the 'purses' and 'watches'.

(irjO) Who made these big stone spheres found in Costa Rica?

A: Local overlords.

Q: (L) So that's who made them. Okay. When you say "local overlords," were those human overlords or alien overlords?

A: Hybrid.

Q: (L) Okay.

(irjO) What was their purpose?

A: Gravity balancers for directed energy.

Q: (L) How did they make them?

A: Directed energy.

Q: (L) What kind of directed energy?

A: EM.

Q: (Joe) What was the source of that directed energy?

A: Purses seen in many statues.

Q: (Chu) Purses?

(L) A pocketbook.

(Joe) Ah, so... In either South American or Egyptian stone carvings…

(L) Yeah. There's these purses and everybody's always wondering about 'em.

(Joe) So they obviously weren't purses then. These are some kind of technological devices that looked like purses?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) And that was a source of the electromagnetic directed energy?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) And the stones were balanced gravity…

(irjO) Can I ask a question about that? Do we know the name of these overlords?

(Joe) Well, when was that? What was the date?

A: Time reference is confused due to cataclysmic events. But approx 14,000 years ago. Redheaded demygods.

About the red-headed demigods/hybrids:

Dec. 3, 1994

Q: (L) What did Jesus look like? How tall was he?

A: 5'9"

Q: (L) What color eyes did he have?

A: Blue.

Q: (L) What color hair did he have?

A: Strawberry blond.

Sept. 24, 1995

Q: (L) Are the Orion STS the infamous red-headed Nordic aliens?

A: Yes, and all other humanoid combinations.

Oct. 7, 1995

Q: (L) Who are the 'Orange' aliens mentioned as being the 'Council of Nine?'

A: Orange is reference to hair color.

Apr. 11, 1998

Q: Ummm, in reading this funny book I just finished {I believe it was “Fingerprints of the Gods” by Graham Hancock}, I discovered that there is the tradition of the Ark of the Covenant being in Ethiopia. This guy did a bunch of research on it, and it seems possible that it is there, and that it may even be active. Is it, in fact, in the church of St. Mary of Zion in Ethiopia?

A: No.

Q: Where is it?

A: If we were to reveal this to you, it would be akin to giving a hand grenade to a baby!!

Q: Well, I just thought I would ask! What I found out was that this wonderful Hakluyt Society that chronicled the funny business in the Canary Islands {which I had read previously, and which claimed that the Ark of the covenant was there} also kept track of the goings on in Ethiopia. One of the things they told about was the carrying of the Ark in procession by red or blond headed guys. And there was the Croix Patte of the Templars on a number of objects in Ethiopia. The Rose Croix. Did we have Templars there, or what was going on? Was the Ark there and was it then taken somewhere else?

A: The Ark of the Covenant is not what you think it is.

Q: You guys said that it was a power cell. I don't have some sort of romantic idea of it. I can accept that. But there are all these stories about it and a lot of people have mythologized it. What do you mean by saying such a thing. What is the Ark?

A: See Oak Island.

{Trans-dimensional Atomic Remolecularizer?}

Q: It seems that the Templars were in charge of building the Cathedral at Chartres, and there is a tableaux on one of the porches of Melchizedek and the Queen of Sheba. Equidistant between them is the Ark of the Covenant in a cart. Melchizedek is holding a cup that is supposed to be the Holy Grail. Inside this cup is a cylindrical object of stone. What is this?

A: Greater sight.

Q: What?! (A) Is it a symbol or a device?

A: Why cannot it be both?

Q: (A) It can be both, but is it both?

A: Yes.

Q: (A) So, it is a device for greater sight like a crystal ball, yes?

A: Only when utilized exactly precisely.

The cup with the 'cylindrical object of stone' I thought was an interesting description since it is a symbol and a device. The large stone spheres from Costa Rica might be a case of 'sound wave focusing' but the C's just say 'EM'. But then there's the Ark of the Covenant being a 'power cell', and here the Apkallu (in this case Ea/Enki) holding 'purses' and 'pine cones' are standing by (interacting with?) the Tree of Life/Knowledge ('power cell'?).

These 'gods' are also known as 'winged genies' and are also shown holding other devices instead of purses. Different devices? The same devices but represented in a different way? In this video (18:53- the guy has no imagination at all, btw), you can see them holding rings and below, holding five-tailed flails. They also look human. Red-headed hybrids?

There is also a 'Fish God' version holding the purse and pine cone.

Jul. 10, 1999

Q: (L) How can I be more specific? (C) In these chemically induced trances, why is there the common experience of seeing these bird-headed or serpent-like creatures?

A: While you have physicality, some part of you will maintain the connection to its roots.

Q: (L) Are you saying that all these people who say that human beings have reptilian genetics, are telling the truth? Do we have reptilian genetics?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Do we also have bird genetics?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And that is our physical connection or basis?

A: Yes, as third density bioengineered beings, you lead the smorgasbord parade of that which surrounds you in the physical realm.

Q: (A) So, we are 3rd density bioengineered beings. (L) That leads to another question: there is a lot of talk about the Merovingian bloodlines, or the 'Nordic Covenant' bloodlines, or whatever label is put on it, being a 'fresher' version of the reptilian genetic strain. This is represented in the myths of the god Oannes [Apkallu] of Sumerian fame, or the Quinotaur who impregnated the mother of Merovee while she was bathing in the sea, and even the wife of the founder of the Angevins, Melusine, variously described as an aquatic fairy or a mermaid. So, there is this claim that there is a stronger and more virile reptilian strain in these bloodlines. Is that correct?

A: It may be.

Q: (L) Well, is that significant in any way?

A: For those obsessed with materialism.

Nov. 1, 2025

Q: (L) Now, tell me what he said. It's not.. I have hearing aids and they really mess up certain frequencies.

(Andromeda) He was saying around 48,000 BC there was a mutation of psychopaths in India. That's where it started. And it was because of the lizard’s influence?

(seek10) Yes.

(Approaching Infinity) So was Rama fighting actual lizards or psychopaths?

(L) Ah!

A: Both In some cases. Keep in mind that lizard beings are 4D and can only interact in 3D under special conditions. This is the reason that so-called "fish gods" came and went from the sea on unusual scheduling demands.

Apparently, this is the last panel in a triptych. A description/interpretation comes from here.

In a next panel Ashunarsipal is no longer surrounded by the Apkallu, he himself has been transformed into a winged figure holding a tree fruit and the container; in the following image he stands in direct contact with the Tree of Knowledge and points directly at Ahura Mazda inside his solar disc. Obviously the king has partaken of the tree fruit, and the knowledge it contains has transformed him into an Apkallu, allowing him direct access to God.

So, the 4D "Apkallu" disappear from 3D but leave the red-headed hybrids in charge while they're away?

As for the 'watches' (I think 'communication devices' was mentioned somewhere), they can be seen here on the wrists of the first three. The second guy is also holding a longer staff that has the same design. The other end of the staff looks like it has a wrist band that you slide your hand into so that if you let the staff go, you don't lose it. It's really too small to be a weapon, like a club, so I think this is something else. The last guy does not wear 'watches'. If you notice the reliefs of the guys holding flails, they only have one 'watch'. Interestingly, the humans wear sandals whereas the 'fish god' and 'bird god' are bare foot.

These 'watches' look remarkably similar to the 8-pointed star Ishtar is holding also found at Nimrud. I don't think they have the same meaning but perhaps they have a similar...function/effect?

 

[Benjamin]

The cup with the 'cylindrical object of stone' I thought was an interesting description since it is a symbol and a device. The large stone spheres from Costa Rica might be a case of 'sound wave focusing' but the C's just say 'EM'. But then there's the Ark of the Covenant being a 'power cell', and here the Apkallu (in this case Ea/Enki) holding 'purses' and 'pine cones' are standing by (interacting with?) the Tree of Life/Knowledge ('power cell'?).

Oh, I forgot to question if the 'purses' were something like a portable 'battery pack' that get recharged by the Tree of Life thing?

 

[sid]

Something to be taken into consideration by the peeps that comets can also be inter-dimensional i.e they can instantly appear in our Solar system out of nowhere and leave us with very little notice. C's have touched on this indirectly in some of the oldest sessions that part of the comet cluster is in another realm. See below for relevance.

Session 23 March 1996​

Q: (L) And also, can I infer from this, that the comet cluster exists in the other realm?

A: Partly.

Q: (L)Well, previously, you had said that the comet cluster would come before the realm border. Which indicated that the comet...

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Well, how can something so... you said it appears to be one single large body, and that our government knows that it's on it's way, and that apparently somebody has spotted it. Which direction is it coming from?

A: Direction?

Q: (L) Well, the comet cluster. That comet cluster, is, I am assuming, a real body, in third density experience, right? A part of a real cluster of bodies in third density experience. Is that correct?

A: Cluster can approach from all directions.

Q: (L) So, can I infer from what has been said, that we are going to move into this comet cluster, as into a realm?

A: Border changes rules.

I did ask a more direct question in an earlier session with the above in mind and it was more or less confirmed that these can come from anywhere without any notice and our 3D tech is not good enough to detect it.

Session 18 December 2021

(Sid) Do the Quorum or the PTB know the exact location and timings of "the big one"?

A: No.

Q: (Sid) Or are they a bit clueless too?

A: More than a bit.

Just think that even with the hidden tech that the PTB is possessing, its not good enough to tell them the location of all the comets which could potentially hit because some of them are not in our realm.

C's did allude to how they can arrange a comet hit which means that when a decision is made at a higher level for balancing purposes, a comet can be nudged to cross into our realm. Perhaps another of those Quorum activities.

Session 23 March 2013​

Q: (L) Well, thanks a lot! (Ailen) That's a nice way of saying, "No dice!" (L) Okay, as you know, we had a wonderful little exploding comet fragment out there in Russia that did some serious damage and injured lots of people. I'm not glad that it injured lots of people, but I just think it was pretty interesting that this happened like within three days of our new book "Comets and The Horns of Moses" being released in hardcopy. So, I guess the first question is: Anything to tell us about the exploding comet fragment, or whatever they wanna call it? It could have an asteroid, or it could have a comet fragment, or whatever?

A: Denatured comet but who's counting?

Q: (L) Okay. Is that all you're gonna say?

A: Just wait for the next one! That one will be a doozie! And it has "friends!"

Q: (L) Can you give us a time estimate on that? [laughter] (Belibaste) And location? (L) Location, maybe? (Andromeda) Roughly? Ballpark figures? (Belibaste) Plus size?

A: We would have liked to arrange things so that it could have hit [birds start chirping a lot in the background] on the very day of the book release, however things just don't work that way in the STO reality. Thus, the same applies to predictions of future impacts.

Q: (L) That was a nice way of saying, "No dice!" So there is more out there that's coming, but you can't tell us exactly when, and the next one's gonna be a doozie; so we know that much. Are you saying you know that much?

A: Yes. Please put all former clues together for ballpark figure, keeping in mind that the universe is open thus there will always be variables.

Q: (L) Okay. (Andromeda) Past comet streams? (L) So in other words, if we factor in what we know from the science of, say, Victor Clube and Bill Napier, plus observations we make, plus historical records, etc. and signs, we can figure out that something is probably fairly imminent. That would be my best guess. My thought is that if we don't get a plague from this one that exploded over Russia, we will from the next one. That's my best guess.

A: Good guess!

But, where will it hit?
There is a clue in the below excerpt from the same session as above.

Session 23 March 2013​

Q: (Belibaste) More negative. Okay. Can one individual, or several individuals, attract in a similar manner as this place, some cometary bodies?

A: Yes

Q: (Belibaste) Is it because their electric charge collectively or individually is modified?

A: Not only electric charge. In the realm from which some of these things are manifested or, better, "directed", information is king.

Q: (Belibaste) So if a group of individuals acquires, stores, information that is orthogonal to truth, i.e. lies, will this fact of acquiring information that is orthogonal to truth increase the attraction to meteorites or cometary bodies?

A: Yes

Q: (Belibaste) How does it work?

A: Other realm just mentioned... Gravity waves.

Think of the current parts of the world where ignorance rules and things have gone so pear shaped that we may be wishing for the comets to rain down everyday i.e the western bloc of nations. But, even the Islamic nations in the middle east and Indian population are so much orthogonal to the truth due to their religions and associated practices that they are also a prime candidate for a direct hit due to the negativity and need for a cleansing. FWIW!

 

[MJF]

September 30, 1994

Q: (L) Was Velikovsky correct when he said Venus was on a 52 year orbit during a certain period in our history?

A: Close.

Q: (L) How many passes did Venus make through the solar system before it was precipitated into a regular planetary orbit?

A: 7

Q: (L) Where did Venus originally come from?

A: 19 light years away.

(...)

October 5, 1994

Q: (L) Was this activity of Venus interactive with the close passing of the cluster of comets you have mentioned?

A: Close. One of three cataclysms close together.

Q: (L) If Venus was one of the cataclysms and the cluster of comets was another, what was the third?

A: Mars.

Q: (L) Was Mars knocked out of it's orbit by Venus?

A: Yes.

Further to your answer, you can also add Session dated 7 October 1994:

Q: (L) Now, the time of the passage of Venus was the time of the Exodus [MJF: 2,670 B.C.], is that correct? Was Venus a result of this cluster of comets?

A: Semi-stimulatad by gravitational pull.

Q: (L) Venus was stimulated by the gravitational pull?

A: Attracted.

Q: (L) Venus was drawn into the solar system by the gravitational pull of the cluster of comets?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Where did Venus get all its gases and clouds and so forth? What was its origin? Where did it get all this stuff?

A: Collected during fiery, friction filled journey and space matter in general.

Q: (L) Where was Venus originally from?

A: Ancient wanderer from near Arcturus.

And the Session dated 16 November 1994:

Q: (L) When did Venus enter the solar system?

A: 80,000 years approximately.

Q: (L) How many close passes to the earth did Venus make?

A: Seven.

Q: (L) Was Venus involved with the planet Kantek which you said exploded due to psychic energies generated by its inhabitants?

A: No.

So, it seems Venus was perhaps a cometary body or an orphaned planet that came originally from near the star Arcturus (meaning 'Guardian of the Bear'), which is a red giant star in the constellation of Boötes, and was drawn into our solar system by the gravitational pull of the cluster of comets.

The C's said above that Venus came from 19 lights-years away, although Arcturus is in fact 36.7 light-years from the Sun, which suggests that Venus was at one time 17.7 light-years away from Arcturus (which evidently is "near" from the C's perspective).

The C's say that Venus made seven close passes to the Earth. Since it supposedly entered the solar system 80,000 years ago, it must have been spotted by the Atlanteans at some stage, as the C's said they were an advanced space faring society (who had bases, if not cities, on the Moon and Mars) who must therefore have had telescopes and space probes at least as good, if not much better, than ours' today.

However, post the Deluge or Flood and the end of the Atlantean civilisation, it was probably the Sumerians who first observed it in modern recorded history, as witnessed by a cylinder seal found in southern Mesopotamia dating from the Jemdet Nasr period, a period covering the years 3100 to 2900 BC. This written observation by the Sumerians and its dating fits quite well with what the C's said about Venus's part in the abandonment of the building of the ancient city of Baalbek in Lebanon by the Antereans (or did they really mean Atlanteans?) and the early Sumerians:
​

Q: What happened to interrupt or halt the building of this city?

A: Venus first appearance and pass.

Q: What year was this project brought to a halt?

A: 3218 B.C.​

If this was Venus's first appearance and pass near the Earth, then there would have been six more such close passes before it settled into it present stable orbit.

The Sumerians also seem to have observed a connection between Venus and the comet cluster since according to the C's the Sumerians referred to them together as the "Hammered Bracelet".
​

Session 9 October 1994:​

Q: (L) I am going to give a list of planets written about in the Sumerian texts which Dr. Sitchen has interpreted. I would like for you to give me the true translation of these names. What was meant by {the Sumerian word}:

{In the following, the words to the left are what I called out and the words to the right of the colon are the C's responses.}

Mummu: Comet cluster.
Lahamu: Venus
Lahmu: Earth
The Hammered Bracelet: Comet trail of Venus and cluster.

What I would like to know though is whether we are still going to see the Dark Star as the C's once suggested (see below) and Persej highlighted in his post above or have we missed this boat now?
​

A: Your Biblical prophecies speak of a period of terror and chaos followed by calm, and then, unexpectedly, amidst seeming overwhelming peace and renewal and prosperity, the end.

Q: (L) Okay, elucidate, please.

A: No, you elucidate, please!

Q: (L) Okay, I would say that this "end" is the passing through the "realm border," the "wave."

(...)

A: What would happen if the brown star that is the sun's twin were to get close enough to be illuminated by the sun?

Q: (T) Well, if it were close enough to be illuminated, the obvious result is that it would be SEEN. People would panic...

A: Yes.

Q: (T) Governments would fall...

A: And terror and chaos. And when it departs again?

Q: (L) Everything will seem to be fine! But, they won't realize that the Oort cloud has been hit! Oh, sugar!

A: And then what?

Q: (L) It is not the Oort cloud or the comets that is going to cause all this terror and carrying on, it is going to be the seeing of the illuminated brown star, which will go away, and then no one will see what is coming! And this IS talked about in both the Bible and Nostradamus - but it was incomprehensible before! Okay, how long will it take the comets to get from the Oort cloud to here?

A: Let us just say that the cluster travels much faster than the usual cometary itinerary.

Q: (T) And this is because they are traveling in the wake of a large sun sized gravity well...

A: And we have spoken of the comet cluster before, and we have told you that this time, it rides the Wave.

I am not aware of anything in the historical record that suggests there was any mass panic at the sight of such a celestial object during the Maunder Minimum Period, although I stand to be corrected if anyone knows otherwise.

The only amazing celestial sight I am aware of during that period was the supernova known as Tycho's Supernova observed by Danish astronomer Tycho Brahe on November 11, 1572. It was located in the constellation Cassiopeia and became bright enough to be seen during the day for about two weeks, reaching a magnitude of -4, comparable to Venus. I think it was this supernova that was mentioned in the session dated 5 September 1998:​

Q: (L) Having done my homework on supernovas to some extent, and having discovered that either supergiant red stars are in the process of going supernova, or supergiant blue stars are getting ready to be ready to go supernova, as well as eruptions of massive interstellar clouds, I note that Betelgeuse, in the right shoulder of Orion, is a red supergiant, and Rigel, in the foot of Orion, is a blue supergiant, both of which could go supernova. Am I going in the right direction?

A: You have begun to trek down the right path.

Q: (L) We noticed that the supernova that occurred in Cassiopaea 300 years ago did not seem to have been widely noticed by people on earth. What is the reason for this?

A: Distance.

Q: (L) Now, formerly I asked about the ‘two new stars in Cygnus and Serpentarius’ that were written about in the Rosicrucian Manifesto of about this period of time, and you said they were talking about ‘novae.’ But, it seems that there are no new stars in either of these constellations. Yet, at approximately this time, was the supernova in Cassiopaea.

A: Yes, those with foreknowledge were looking.

As I have written elsewhere, this supernova had a profound effect on the young Sir Francis Bacon who was probably the person who wrote the Rosicrucian Manifesto referred to in the session above. Even as a young boy, he took the supernova as a sign, an augury or an omen, to launch what he saw as his 'Great Work' to restore western civilisation to the heights it once occupied.

By the way, I wonder whether Sir Francis Bacon might be another candidate as an undergrounder and a 'Deep Level Punctuator'. He rose from relative obscurity to become Lord Chancellor of England and was one of the main drivers in the creation of the British Empire which really started with the fledgling American colony of Virginia for which he, as secretary to the Virginia Company, would write the colony's constitution that would later greatly influence the drafting of the US Constitution. Many people also think that he may have been the Grand Master of the early 17th century Rosicrucians, an underground movement and brotherhood which had a great effect on the late Renaissance and heavily inspired the Enlightenment as well as the launch of the modern scientific age, Bacon being one of the founders of the modern scientific method. Finally, he was most likely the real writer or pen behind the plays of William Shakespeare that helped to create modern drama as we known it today and are amongst the most influential written works of the last millennia. On this basis you could argue that he was more influential in the long term than Sargon the Great, Queen Nefertiti, Mayer Amschel Rothschild and even Napoleon Bonaparte if he was indeed an undergrounder and a Deep Level Punctuator. Moreover, did he really die in 1626 as claimed or did he go underground with his fellow alchemists in that mysterious enclave in the Pyrenees?

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[SMM]

Awesome session. Thank you so much.

 

[Sindy-S.R]

Interesting, so who else throughout history was an undergrounder?
Genghis Khan?
Shaka Zulu?
Any religious figures? Hints are OK. Thanks

I have two other figures I suspect could be Undergrounders.
- Christopher Columbus
- Walt Disney (a great visionary who transformed entertainment in the 20th century)

 

[seve]

I wonder what you think about this -

The video shows a stone "handbag," and it depicts aliens holding a "cedar cone." And the aliens also have "handbags" in their hands. The circle is complete.

I think this has already been mentioned on the forum, the pine cone refers to the pineal gland and therefore to its capabilities.

 

[T.C.]

Interesting, so who else throughout history was an undergrounder?
Genghis Khan?
Shaka Zulu?
Any religious figures? Hints are OK. Thanks

I have two other figures I suspect could be Undergrounders.
- Christopher Columbus
- Walt Disney (a great visionary who transformed entertainment in the 20th century)

If he existed, I’ve wondered if Constantine was an undergrounder, due to the historical, cultural and religious influence on the medieval period, and Christianity in general.

We have a session entry about him:

Q: (L) Okay. I would like to know who was responsible for the vision seen by the Emperor Constantine which caused him to convert to Christianity and impose Christianity on his world?

A: The answer to that is, mainly and primarily, merely that the Emperor Constantine had been predestined to do such a thing by the planning process that exists in fifth density prior to the reemergence of a soul in third density.

Q: (L) Is there any particular significance to the fact that the imposition of Christianity on the area of Constantine's reign also brought on the Dark Ages?

A: Possibly.

Q: (L) Do you have any comments on that?

A: No, not really.

The vague answers might indicate that back in 19 July 1995, the C’s didn’t want to give away an underground origin (without being explicitly asked, anyway).