A: If you think that gravity is an effect.
Q: (Ark) Alright, that's enough for first question. I was badly beaten. Back to the drawing board. Second question concerning space and time: Sometime ago, we have been told that Einstein's idea of space-time is not the correct one, and that we should go back to some other ideas. Now these other ideas are that space and time of Galileo when we have absolute time - time is distinguished and it's absolute. Before that, there was the idea of Kant. For Kant, there was separate space and time - absolute space, and absolute time. And I am thinking that maybe the correct idea is the third one, which is to have absolute space but not absolute time. Am I on to something?
A: Getting close.
Q: (Ark) What should I do to get even closer? Anything?
A: Remember that time does not exist except as a perception.
I have been pondering this lately, mainly from one of the wave chapters, which alas I cannot recall. Relating to Gravity, Time, and Consciousness.
Also I recently related an old experience with Lucid dreaming and what it had felt like at that time some 20+ - 30 yeras ago.
My description on the feelings or sensations were from my first few experiences back then.
Over the years I have experienced this quite a number of times, but have not physically tried to do it like I used to do, but only experienced the onset stages as they have occurred naturaly so to speak.
Anyhow I am getting to the point slowly ;).
Over the years the'wooly' feeling I had mentioned in my small post on the subject and as I got more used to it felt like a Vibration.
This is what got my attention when reading one of the other wave pages by the way and got me thinking about Lucid states again, and funnyly enough just days before I signed up and saw the post I had responded to.
If you recall occassional movie scenes where they use a special type of zoom, where the background fades away while the point of interest zooms in, like a part of the scene is zooming in while at the same time zooming out? Hard to describe. But in my other post I mentioned a feeling like expanding and contracting at the same time, that zoom sort when watched sort of feels like that feeling when going into the Lucid state.
So I got to thinking about the Gravity, Time, Conscious question.
If we use the physical pheneomenom of changing state from rest to Lucid styate while conscious it feels like a rising vibration, the strange feeling in ones body feels like a contraction/expansion and a feeling of freefall, though I can only imagine what freefall feels like, I imagine it feels like the effect when going into the Lucid state. To facilitate enetering the Lucid state one needs to silence the mind and focus ones intent on seeing the experience through, about a s best way to describe it as I can.
So we have a rising vibration, also a sound like a tinitus comes into the ears and rises in intensity and gets louder and higher, ( I remember the first time it sounded like every scream ever uttered getting louder and louder (again best description I can give)). One feels like one is falling into eternity ie the freefall feeling.
So we have vibration, bodily sensation of a gravitational type, ie freefall, like being pulled yet falling/floating faster and faster, imagine big dipper without the bumps. Also consciousness comes into play ie a need to still the inner voice and a relaxing of mund and body, ie setting a silent intent for better description. Almost like a passive focusses giving oneself up to the process. In the lUcid state time is variable, ie one can be there for seconds and wake felling very rested and greater time than one would percieve has passed, other times one can feel like its been longer and one wakes to find only a couple or more minutes have passed.
I got to thinking that if time is only a perception when in our physical state, then the Lucid state takes us out of that physical state so to speak. The rising vibration and the odd gravity effects all point to the lucid states as being a temporary portal into another state of reality altogether. Irregardless of what one believes from Casteneda's experiences. By using conscious to kick start the lucid state, the body goes through a rising vibrational state and the passage is the somehow controlled flow via gravity waves into that Lucid state/dimension/density or partial density state.
I dont know enough about the whole gravity/vibration/density/consciousness information, except what I have read in the posted Wave series, and I have only recently read a few chapters again after reading them some years back. Would be interesting to see if we could get some feedback on this subject from the C's. Not only that Ark, if you could somehow bring on a similar state, not saying you should follow it through, it may prompt a diiferent understanding for you or inspiration may be a better word. Just an idea.
Leon
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