Session 14 March 2015

Zadius Sky said:
Great important questions. I've read all four books and wondered about hiking again. I still hike every week and these books make me more aware of my surroundings during my hikes in the mountains.

I've gone hiking a few times since and I've been super vigilant not to let anyone stray behind or get too far ahead. I probably foolishly chose to be last in line so that no one else would be behind me and stray. But I was anxious and extremely aware of everything the whole time. I kinda took the fun out of it.
 
Duke said:
I'm wondering if the use of a CB radio system will be a useful idea for local or world wide communication?... if the SHTF proper....

Concerning radio communication, maybe you'll find this thread interesting: Amateur radio
 
Tristan thank you for bringing this topic of "horse within you ( me ) " ... ;) .. very interesting indeed ... and Konstanntin thank you for sharing youtube video link to 9h materials! ...

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Laura said:
Duke said:
I, as others have said, could feel the session was there before I looked. While having lunch {by myself, wife at work and I'm preparing to sleep before nightshift} I having a conversation with myself and was told to look for a new session, with a broad smile I found it there ;).

This is VERY interesting to me. The development of "chakra connections" appears to be happening!


oh ... and another thing that is very interesting ... have to put the "The development of "chakra connections" " at my research list too :cool2:
 
I am sorry totally messy with this quoting scheme .. I will learn soon, I promisse ... :-[
 
Laura said:
Several of our FOTCM community have become interested in the CB radio and even short wave (for which you have to take a course and get a license in the US). There are many other very practical things being undertaken by the communities.

The problem with CB in the US (and elsewhere) is that the FCC limits legal transmit power to 4 watts. Many folks get around this by using powerful linear amps to boost this to hundreds of watts. This can produce noise/interference with other comm channels, and the FCC has come down very hard on some of these folks with heavy fines and confiscation. Also, unless you can practice with the high power comms, you will not know what it can do when you need it.

A far better approach is to get your HAM license (or equivalent in other countries) and begin to interface with existing HAM networks. You will likely gain very useful information about your local community (and beyond) that you would not know otherwise. Also, in a developing emergency/disaster scenario it is often the HAMs that are first responders and generally relay information that is far more accurate than that in other comm channels. HAMs are naturally great networkers.
 
Heimdallr said:
Thank you for asking about Putin and the weird details in the Missing 411 books. There are so many questions I have about those people disappearing. Why does it rain or storm around the time of the person going missing? What happens to the people who are never found, are they stuck somewhere or deceased? What happens exactly when a small child disappears in their own home without a sound? Just what is the purpose of all this? Are these people being tested, used for something, while they are "elsewhere" before coming back "home"? Is the word boulder similar to berry, since a lot of people are found or disappeared near boulders? And what does the National Park Service actually know that they are so reticent to help anyone researching these disappearances? And finally, will it ever be possible for me to ever go hiking again now that I've read these books?

From reading DP's books, some of the thoughts I've had are:

There seem to be multiple purposes. Some seem to be energetic feeding through induced panic/fear/paranoia much like what is described in the Skinwalker Ranch book. Feeding that bleeds to 4D or interdimensions. One such case: an experienced outdoorsman very familiar with the area goes missing - body found with bare feet skinned to the bone. Another purpose may be messing with our time line. It seems that some highly intelligent victims are simply eliminated to prevent realization of their future. Small children are usually found in good shape (unless the search is terminated early). These children may be returned with something more than when they left - again, possibly messing with our timeline.

A clue evident in some cases (that can talk of the event) is that their surroundings suddenly become unrecognizable - they are truly lost. They are experiencing a change of perception or (more likely) they have been transported interdimensionally to somewhere else. One man got lost on his own farm (if I remember right)!

Water is an interesting connection. When I was studying amazonian shamanism I ran into shamanic bilocation travel via the rivers and streams. Remotely located shamans were capable of carrying on business with each other in this way. These shamans actually traveled great distance via the waterways.

If the bad weather is a manifestation of 4D STO/STS conflict, then these cases may be a focal point for this (locally). It is clear from many cases that during the early search (in bad weather), the objects of the search are simply not there - truly gone from our 3D. The individuals are found only after being returned. Sadly, early termination of search efforts seems correlated with death of the victims.
 
luc said:
Duke said:
I'm wondering if the use of a CB radio system will be a useful idea for local or world wide communication?... if the SHTF proper....

Concerning radio communication, maybe you'll find this thread interesting: Amateur radio

Thank you so much everyone for this very 'potent' session.

My boyfriend and I had a picnic in the mountains yesterday just after reading this session. I was lucky to find a perfect spot in a valley - full of beautiful wild orchid - 3 varieties and anenomies of all hues. More importantly there were many derelict 'cottages' especially one on the top of the mountain, which we will investigate next time. There was also an unusual stone-walled 'pit' going down at least 20 feet in the middle of a ruin. Not sure what it would have been used for, perhaps water, but it is an ideal place to store petrol, gas, and water!

It is also way off the beaten track from towns and as no farms or houses would be an ideal bolt hole in the opposite direction I would normally go (to my village) should an unusual thing happen.

I am currently sorting all my stuff to move a pile of things to my attic in my village (house is currently rented), though I am sure we can all share as big house, in an emergency.

Also have a list ready to order (- including books - if I am able to get the funds I am waiting for. Fingers crossed I can get to Europe to ship it all back here in time!

I was also considering asking a farmer in my village to look after some livestock for me - for money obviously - so that enough food/meat will be on tap too. Also getting the car peak serviced and a roof rack (as well as keeping the fuel/oil topped up to full), will enable me (with stocks of petrol stored in my shed) to be able to get the 'go to' bags and boxes packed in quickly to vanish to wherever I feel is safest - but have two locations now.

Re the quote on CB radio I have two new ones here (though no aerial or training) as they were illegally brought into the country. Plus if i currently use them they will quickly be picked up by the army. They have a 40 mile radius and i have had them since 2009 for this reason. Plus I have a metal detector again still in its box - there are plenty of roman coins etc around that maybe able to be used for barter etc.


Another idea I have had is to learn dowsing. This is an ideal way of finding water and other things as well as for health problems, allergies, anything really. Lethbridge's book is my bible! So I will use the time to practice this art. Just bent two kebab irons for the time being, but on further trips to the mountain will use them - to also define energies too. There are a few black energy places here - even a hospital is on one! I went to a presentation last week and made some good contacts plus wil attend a one day workshop towards the end of the year.

I also realized the danger of cooking by fire yesterday. The smoke can be seen for miles here which is a dead giveaway on pos food or our whereabouts. So either we cook at night or use alternatives when we can eg gas - which lasts for ages. I will just pull my gas hob out and take it!

In the meantime I will also research either battery or solar methods of powering my laptop as I have 70k plus helpful files and health info on it which will be necessary - especially if books have to stay. Except the survival ones of course. Solar could also possibly be used just to power a freezer? If it is safe enough to use one.

Burying survival plastic boxes in various locations (away from visibility from wherever we are 'living') is also on my mind. Food/water and emergency stuff. If the house is then searched/taken over you will not be seen digging up plan 'B'. By having various locations (and maybe a rough 'treasure map' of where you buried it), other trusted members can then have details (though obviously very trusted), so if anything happens to you the stocks are not lost.

The threats here are the same, epidemic, economic, but also earthquakes and maybe water hurricanes (saw two not far out at sea from my flat, 3 weeks ago, sober reminder - best I can do there is barricade the windows!). Plus of course if Turkey is training Isil, then we are just a stones throw from them coming here too. So choosing somewhere away from anyone and away from any roads in the mountains is the best bet. Hoping they are too lazy or think that farming/populated areas are easy picking. Plus although a virus is airborne it can be safer to be away from other people. Long-term (when the fat and stocks run out) I cannot see this working without having some livestock - though plenty of grazing nearby both boltholes. Although my dog is a hunting dog - though not trained (unless of course she is starving) the hunters here have practically decimated the wildlife. Only heard one bird in the 4 hours we were in the area. So sad.

I also noticed that it would be possible to hide the car away fro the road as well as away from the house (in amongst the pine trees and covered with camouflage). Though anyone seen driving after one week would also be targeted!
Another plus for site is that the valley is surrounded by 4 mountains, from which you can see for miles without being seen, for added warnings of any intruders. (Maybe that is when you use the car to get the hell out!).

Just a few musings FWIW. I am sure there are a few 'wishful thinkings' going on in my planning, but it is now uppermost on my mind now we have had the important warning.
 
Congrats Galatea!... You did it, in an awesome way... keep it going.

Thanks Chateau Crew, Laura, C's et al.

Lot to ponder with this last session... :cool2: :cool2: :cool2:
 
LQB said:
Heimdallr said:
Thank you for asking about Putin and the weird details in the Missing 411 books. There are so many questions I have about those people disappearing. Why does it rain or storm around the time of the person going missing? What happens to the people who are never found, are they stuck somewhere or deceased? What happens exactly when a small child disappears in their own home without a sound? Just what is the purpose of all this? Are these people being tested, used for something, while they are "elsewhere" before coming back "home"? Is the word boulder similar to berry, since a lot of people are found or disappeared near boulders? And what does the National Park Service actually know that they are so reticent to help anyone researching these disappearances? And finally, will it ever be possible for me to ever go hiking again now that I've read these books?

From reading DP's books, some of the thoughts I've had are:

There seem to be multiple purposes. Some seem to be energetic feeding through induced panic/fear/paranoia much like what is described in the Skinwalker Ranch book. Feeding that bleeds to 4D or interdimensions. One such case: an experienced outdoorsman very familiar with the area goes missing - body found with bare feet skinned to the bone. Another purpose may be messing with our time line. It seems that some highly intelligent victims are simply eliminated to prevent realization of their future. Small children are usually found in good shape (unless the search is terminated early). These children may be returned with something more than when they left - again, possibly messing with our timeline.

A clue evident in some cases (that can talk of the event) is that their surroundings suddenly become unrecognizable - they are truly lost. They are experiencing a change of perception or (more likely) they have been transported interdimensionally to somewhere else. One man got lost on his own farm (if I remember right)!

Water is an interesting connection. When I was studying amazonian shamanism I ran into shamanic bilocation travel via the rivers and streams. Remotely located shamans were capable of carrying on business with each other in this way. These shamans actually traveled great distance via the waterways.

If the bad weather is a manifestation of 4D STO/STS conflict, then these cases may be a focal point for this (locally). It is clear from many cases that during the early search (in bad weather), the objects of the search are simply not there - truly gone from our 3D. The individuals are found only after being returned. Sadly, early termination of search efforts seems correlated with death of the victims.

That's interesting alright, I'm reading flying saucers to the center of your mind by keel, and he talks about electrical activity related to ufo sightings

I would always ask the police my usual list of peculiar questions. I still do this, and they always act astonished. One of my questions was, “Has anyone been killed by lightning here lately?” This doesn’t normally happen very often. It happens only 800 times a year, worldwide. But whenever I asked this to police where they were having a lot of UFO sightings, their mouths would drop and they’d say, “My God, how’d you know? Just last week somebody got killed by a lightning bolt.” It’s a very unusual occurrence. In one town in Ohio, I arrived at the police station just as they were bringing in a body that had been killed by a lightning bolt. This apparent link was odd. There was something electrical going on in these towns with UFO sightings.

Keel, John A. (2013-09-11). Flying Saucer to the Center of Your Mind: Selected Writings of John A. Keel (Kindle Locations 2245-2250). Metadisc Books. Kindle Edition.

There's also this.

We had a tremendous UFO wave in the 1960s and 1970s. I was collecting information on the UFOs that were chasing automobiles. Many of you have heard of the UFO “abduction” cases that we have now. In those days, we didn’t call them abduction cases. We had many cases where these UFOs – these lights in the sky – were coming down very close to the cars, and chasing the cars. The question that I had was, “Why were they picking out certain cars and chasing them?” So we started collecting all the details we could… We found in a number of cases that women who were having their menstrual period were driving the cars. This is a very curious fact. We also found that they were mainly chasing a car known as the Ford Galaxy. The UFOs were after our Ford Galaxies! Another little interesting fact is that the drivers of many of these cars were teachers. And some of them were teachers of gifted children. It seemed odd that UFOs were able to pick that out. But if you were a teacher of gifted children driving a Ford Galaxy, you were in big trouble. And if you were also having your menstrual period, you were in terrible trouble.

Keel, John A. (2013-09-11). Flying Saucer to the Center of Your Mind: Selected Writings of John A. Keel (Kindle Locations 2361-2369). Metadisc Books. Kindle Edition.

and this

In Dec. 1967, the Silver Bridge spanning the Ohio River at Pt. Pleasant, WV collapsed, carrying 46 people to their deaths. Point Pleasant had been very much in the news that year, because of the almost constant UFO sightings. One of the (supposed) bridge victims was an Air Force officer named Alvie Maddox. Three months later, a police officer in Texas named Alvis Maddox was mentioned in the press after allegedly seeing and pursuing a flying saucer in an area where another man, Carol Wayne Watts, was claiming repeated visits from UFOs. (Also, a Dallas police officer named Alvin Maddox was in the news, due to renewed investigation of the JFK assassination.) Another famous incident revolved around a Californian name Rex Heflin, who took a series of controversial photographs of a flying saucer in 1965. On April 2, 1971, a Morris Heflin reportedly saw a circular, metallic flying machine near Oklahoma City, OK. Is the repetition of these names meaningless?

Keel, John A. (2013-09-11). Flying Saucer to the Center of Your Mind: Selected Writings of John A. Keel (Kindle Locations 2430-2437). Metadisc Books. Kindle Edition.

Actually there's a whole passage i'll quote might be easier that way.

Over the past 28 years, hundreds of thousands of phenomenal events have been described in newspaper, magazines, and books, and hundreds of thousands of witnesses have been named in print. When dealing with such a large body of evidence (or population demographic), certain laws of probability should surface. We might expect that more Smiths would see more UFOs than anybody else, simply because there are more Smiths around. But in actuality, the name Smith rarely appears in a UFO report. We might also expect the witness populations to conform to the national distributions, racially and religiously. Thus, 10% of all witnesses should be black, because 10% of the population is black. Five percent should be Jewish, 20% should be Catholic, and so on. However, it doesn’t work out this way. Sightings of flying saucers and related phenomena appear to occur on a selected basis. Among the names most frequently noted in UFO reports are Hill, Allen, and Clark. Naturally, a great many other names also appear. Statistically, if 1,000 random events are reported this year, the names and backgrounds of the witnesses should balance out roughly to the distribution of the national population. What are the odds for someone named Reeves seeing a UFO (or a ghost, for that matter) this year? They are approximately 400 million to one. The ten most common surnames (Smith, Johnson, Williams( on), Brown, Jones, Miller, Davis, Martin( ez), Anderson, and Wilson, according to the Social Security Administration) should dominate the massive sighting data of the past 28 years. They don’t... Jones, for example, rarely appears in UFO reports. The most outstanding case was the low-level sighting of a metallic sphere made by Tad Jones over a highway near Charleston, West Virginia in January 1967. The New York (Manhattan) telephone directory lists approximately 900,000 people. Of these, only 13 are named Reeve( s), and 10 others spell it “Reaves” – 23 out of 900,000. (There are 9 pages of Smiths.) If a flying saucer should appear in New York City, and if it should be seen by only 3 people, the odds are far greater that one of those people would be named Smith rather than Reeves. Heflin is an even rarer name. Only four are listed in the NYC phone book; yet two Heflins have not only been involved in important UFO incidents, but have experienced follow-up events as well. Rex Heflin allegedly received visits from bogus Air Force officers after the existence of his photos was revealed. Morris Heflin saw his mysterious UFO a second time, on May 8, 1971. This is like lightning striking in the same place twice. Another rare name is Kiehl (or Kiehle, the original spelling of my name). Only three are listed in the Manhattan directory. Shortly after the author’s interest in the UFO phenomenon became publicly known in 1966, one William J. Kiehl surfaced on the West Coast and revealed an incredible sighting that had taken place 50 years earlier in Canada. As a boy, he had seen a saucer-shaped object hover over a lake, he said, and little men were visible. His story, remarkably detailed after such a long lapse of time, appears in the opening chapter of Coral Lorenzen’s book The UFO Occupants. So far as is known, no other Kiehl/ Kiehle/ Keels have been witnesses to any reported phenomena. This makes William J. Kiehl’s account all the more remarkable. The name Clark is number 18 on the Social Security Administration’s list. There are at least 385, 206 Clarks in the U.S. A number of Clarks are prominent in ufology. Over the years, several Clarks have been named in sighting reports. Hill is another name that seems to pop up frequently, the most famous being the late Barney Hill, who supposedly underwent an extraordinary contact experience. Incidentally, he was also one of the few blacks to become publicly identified with the phenomenon. Hill ranks as number 32 on the SSA list (there are 289,655 of them, 480 of whom are listed in the Manhattan directory). Another famous contactee, George Adamski, bore an even scarier name. A mere three are listed in Manhattan. In a long line of controversial contact reports, the ufonauts have identified themselves with variations of the name Allen. Radio personality “Long John” Nebel has frequently commented on this Allen correlation. The surname Allen is number 26 on the list, and about 960 Allens are listed in the NYC phone book. Like Clark, Allen has appeared frequently in sighting reports, and a number of Allens are important in UFO lore: Carlos Allende, Dr. Gordon Allen, the Alyn mentioned by assorted contactees, etc. If UFO sightings were completely sporadic and accidental, as most UFO enthusiasts believe, then many of these coincidences would have been next to impossible. Apparently there is a hidden factor here – a factor of selectivity. Either the phenomenon itself selects certain witnesses because of some obscure genealogical factor (this was, incidentally, one of Adamski’s claims), or, if we care to be more pragmatic, certain strains in certain families suffer inherited traits that make them prone to hallucinations or psychic experiences. There is, in fact, interesting evidence that psychic ability is inherited. In my Flying Saucer Review special, Beyond Condon, and in my books, I have pointed out that the names adopted by the entities usually have roots in ancient mythology. But I have always been baffled by Woodrow Derenberger’s alleged contact (West Virginia, 1966) with an entity who called himself “Cold.” This might be explained by John Mitchell’s research into ancient leys (The View Over Atlantis, Ballantine Books). He points out (on p. 10) that the names “Red, White, and Black are common [along ley routes]: so are Cold or Cole, Dod, Merry, and Ley.” During my wanderings in West Virginia, I found traces of leys. It may be that Derenberger’s first encounter took place at a point along an erased ley. UFO events, like religious events, are often allegorical and contain, subtle, hidden clues.

Keel, John A. (2013-09-11). Flying Saucer to the Center of Your Mind: Selected Writings of John A. Keel (Kindle Locations 2461-2482). Metadisc Books. Kindle Edition.

these little fact's seem to pop up, that would be overlooked by most investigator's, trust keel to find a connection like that, I wonder if like the berry connection talked about in the session, could be like a signature of high strangeness activity
 
Might be spamming this tread a little so tell me to stop if I am sorry if this is noise but just wanted to post this as well from the same book.

Flying saucers are not only defying the laws of gravity and inertia, they are also defying the laws of probability in their uncanny selection of witnesses. If UFOs are genuine ultraterrestrial (interdimensional) or extraterrestrial phenomena, then all this is an indication that they know far more about us as individuals than we can suspect or rationalize. The big question confronting the psychiatrists and psychologists now immersed in UFO studies is: Do the UFOs select their witnesses, or do specific people tend to create UFO experiences from within themselves by some unknown mental process? Why do the Allens, Hills, Reeves, and Heflins see more of these things than the Smiths, Johnsons, and Browns? Ralph Blum, the New York writer who authored Beyond Earth: Man’s Contact With UFOs, told me that he, too, is concerned with the strange coincidences involving names. Many of the place names and surnames in UFO reports, he points out, refer to water in various ways. The name Reeves is similar to a French word meaning “river bank.” In English, “reeve” is a nautical term meaning “to pass a rope through a hole.” The seeming importance of this obscure nautical symbolism can be seen in the following story from the pages of the Houston Daily Post (April 28, 1897): Merkel, Texas, April 26 - Some parties returning from church last night noticed a heavy object dragging along with a rope attached. They followed it until it caught on a rail crossing the railroad. On looking up, they saw what they supposed was the airship. It was not near enough to get an idea of the dimensions. A light could be seen protruding from several windows; one bright light was in front, like the headlight of a locomotive. After some ten minutes, a man was seen descending the rope. He came near enough to be plainly seen. He wore a light-blue sailor suit, small in size. He stopped when he discovered parties at the anchor. He cut the rope below him and sailed off in a northeast direction. The anchor is now on exhibition at the blacksmith shop of Elliot and Miller, and is attracting the attention of hundreds of people. A small man in a blue sailor suit climbing down a rope from the sky... Rather silly, isn’t it? Sillier still, researchers have discovered two identical stories in very obscure historical texts. An ancient Irish manuscript, the Speculum Regali, gives us this account from A.D. 956: A marvel happened in the borough of Cloera, one Sunday while people were at mass. In this town, there is a church to the memory of St. Kinarus. It befell that a metal anchor was dropped from the sky, with a rope attached to it, and one of the sharp flukes caught in the wooden arch above the church door. The people rushed out of the church and saw, in the sky, a ship with men on board, floating at the end of the anchor cable. They saw a man leap overboard and pull himself down the cable to the anchor, as if to unhook it. He appeared as if he were swimming in water. The folk rushed up and tried to seize him, but the bishop forbade the people to hold the man, for fear it might kill him. The man was freed and hurried up the cable to the ship, where the crew cut the rope and the ship rose and sailed away out of sight. The anchor is in the church as a testimony to this singular occurrence. For many years, a church in Bristol, England, is said to have had a very unique grille on its doors: a grille made from another anchor that allegedly came from the sky. Around A.D. 1200, during the observance of a feast day, the anchor came plummeting out of the sky trailing a rope. It got caught in a mound of stones, according to the story. As a mob of churchgoers gathered around to watch, a “sailor” came down the rope, hand over hand, to free it. This crowd succeeded in grabbing him. They pushed him back and forth until, according to the Gervase of Tilbury’s account in the rare manuscript Otia Imperialia, “He suffocated by the mist of our moist atmosphere, and expired.” His unseen comrades overhead wisely cut the rope and took off. The anchor remained behind, as in the other stories, and was installed on the church doors… Reviewing the similarities of these reports, one is almost tempted to speculate that someone merely updated the ancient accounts. Yet, as researcher Lucius Farish recently remarked, “a citizen of Merkel, Texas, possessing a copy of a rare manuscript like the Speculum Regali in 1897 would be fully as fantastic as the reports themselves.” A farmer fifteen miles north of Sioux City, Iowa, Robert Hibbard, claimed a distressing experience with an anchor-dragging UFO early in April of 1897. A dispatch that appeared in the April 5th edition of Michigan’s Saginaw Evening News stated that “Hibbard’s reputation for truth has never been bad, and the general opinion is that either he ‘had them’ or dreamed his remarkable experience.” The article continues: On the night in question, he says he was tramping about his farm in the moonlight when suddenly, a dark body, lighted on each side, with a row of what looked like incandescent lamps, loomed up some distance to the south of him, at a height of perhaps a mile from the ground. He watched it intently until it was directly over his head. At this point, the craft evidently decided to turn around. In accomplishing this maneuver, the machine sank considerably. Hibbard did not notice a drag rope with a grapnel attached, which dangled from the rear of the boat-like object. Suddenly, as the machine rose again from the ground, it hooked itself firmly in his trousers and shot away again to the south. Had it risen to any considerable height, the result, Hibbard thinks, would have been disastrous. Either his weight was sufficient to keep it near terra firma, or the operator did not care to ascend to a higher level. On the bank of the dry run, where the farmer finally made his escape, grows a small sapling. Hibbard passed near this obstruction in his flight and, as a last resort, grabbed it with both hands. Instantly there was a sound of tearing cloth, and the machine went on with a section of Hibbard’s unmentionables. Hibbard himself fell precipitately into the run. He related his experience to neighbors and, despite their grins of incredulity, firmly maintains the truth of the story. We have only two choices: We can either dismiss all four of these stories as being somehow derivative of one another and pure poppycock; or, we can assume that mysterious airships, all dragging anchors, appeared in 956, 1200, and 1897. There are, in fact, a number of other reports in which UFOs were said to be dragging something along the ground. That still doesn’t prove that anchors are standard equipment on some of the objects If they were using anchors, what could the purpose have been? Could some of the early UFOs have been so primitive that the only way they could hover was by being anchored to the ground? Would spaceships from another world require anchors? Would they need to chase after people whose names seem to refer to anchors (like “Reeves”)?

Keel, John A. (2013-09-11). Flying Saucer to the Center of Your Mind: Selected Writings of John A. Keel (Kindle Locations 2513-2540). Metadisc Books. Kindle Edition.
 
Heimdallr said:
Zadius Sky said:
Great important questions. I've read all four books and wondered about hiking again. I still hike every week and these books make me more aware of my surroundings during my hikes in the mountains.

I've gone hiking a few times since and I've been super vigilant not to let anyone stray behind or get too far ahead. I probably foolishly chose to be last in line so that no one else would be behind me and stray. But I was anxious and extremely aware of everything the whole time. I kinda took the fun out of it.

As a hiker also, I always go hiking with more than two people or I choose trials that are popular and frequented.

Moreover, I try to bring with me a can of cayenne pepper in case of.
 
Gandalf said:
Moreover, I try to bring with me a can of cayenne pepper in case of.

Yeah, I bring my hunting knife. But, all the stories of hunters disappearing but their rifles/shotguns staying behind and never fired tells me that weapons don't really do much good against whatever is happening.
 
Heimdallr said:
Gandalf said:
Moreover, I try to bring with me a can of cayenne pepper in case of.

Yeah, I bring my hunting knife. But, all the stories of hunters disappearing but their rifles/shotguns staying behind and never fired tells me that weapons don't really do much good against whatever is happening.

I think it was in the forum where I read that a guy that supposedly encountered a Lizard felt inmovilized. Another possibility is that if you encounter something paranormal you may be in an hypnotic state, as I suppose whatever tries to catch you is more intelligent than you or has something to neutralize any defense mechanism human beings may have.

One thing I also ask myself is what is said about Karla Turner, that she thought that people could present resistance to an abduction, but I couldn't find more information.
 
Leonarda said:
I think it was in the forum where I read that a guy that supposedly encountered a Lizard felt inmovilized. Another possibility is that if you encounter something paranormal you may be in an hypnotic state, as I suppose whatever tries to catch you is more intelligent than you or has something to neutralize any defense mechanism human beings may have.

Yeah, there are lot of stories like that in Keel's writings. No doubt that paranormal encounters can do such things.
 

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