Session 21 March 2026

(Joe) Just on that last thing about Israel, would it be true to say that Netanyahu is not very important in terms of running the country of Israel, the government of Israel and the war?

A: Yes

Q: (L) So somebody else is running things.

So, who is it?

Netanyahu has been cristallizing the idea, in the mind of the people, that he was the guy in charge. So - he isn't.

This shows we'd have to "dismantle this aspect".

Some "road" needs to be walked... I mean - what? Netanyahu is not the boss? For .. how long?

This makes quite a lot of "intellectual constructions", ideas & beliefs, to erase... Hmmm there is a sort of void, there...

I think, if the case, the belief, the consideration of his power, would meet quite a huge "re-balancing" - must somehow "erase" it. Some wouldn't even be eager to do so.

I am thinking that all this big lie (his power) - exists - and that there must be an exact counterpart somehere. Thsi is frightening, because it means there is another person (perhaps, or a group of people) who is the true Netanyahu so to speak.

I see cognitive dissonance, mistakes & wrong conclusions having been built, possibly during one decade or two. Could be he was a front man since the start, and that we have been literally fooled... Tht's becuse he has been indeed displaying strong "I am the boss" stances... Too much in my opinion, so that it becomes dishonest.

It may be good than to untangle this a bit, be it for the sake of having a basic overview.
 
Since you read the subsequent session, it’s strange you didn’t see the rest of the context around those quotes:


Clearly, this was referring to a woman named M**** that SD knew. The fact that you thought it related to "Laura and company and all related people here" suggests a rather narrow and obsessive focus. Maybe you should get outdoors more.
Thanks Ryan, I will do that. Totally dreamed that up!
 
So, who is it?

Netanyahu has been cristallizing the idea, in the mind of the people, that he was the guy in charge. So - he isn't.

This shows we'd have to "dismantle this aspect".

Some "road" needs to be walked... I mean - what? Netanyahu is not the boss? For .. how long?

This makes quite a lot of "intellectual constructions", ideas & beliefs, to erase... Hmmm there is a sort of void, there...

I think, if the case, the belief, the consideration of his power, would meet quite a huge "re-balancing" - must somehow "erase" it. Some wouldn't even be eager to do so.

I am thinking that all this big lie (his power) - exists - and that there must be an exact counterpart somehere. Thsi is frightening, because it means there is another person (perhaps, or a group of people) who is the true Netanyahu so to speak.

I see cognitive dissonance, mistakes & wrong conclusions having been built, possibly during one decade or two. Could be he was a front man since the start, and that we have been literally fooled... Tht's becuse he has been indeed displaying strong "I am the boss" stances... Too much in my opinion, so that it becomes dishonest.

It may be good than to untangle this a bit, be it for the sake of having a basic overview.

Just because someone in a high level role isn’t important, doesn’t mean they’re not the boss. The boss of a company is in charge of running things but he can be fired or quit and someone else will just come in and do the job instead.
 
So, who is it?

Netanyahu has been cristallizing the idea, in the mind of the people, that he was the guy in charge. So - he isn't.
The C's have mentioned this:

(Perceval) So, when they say "Mossad" as an answer to a lot of these questions, we're not really talking about the overt Israeli government here, right?

A: No. Kabbalists.

And this:
A: Mossad is near the apex of the 3D consortium. The lines blur at that level.

Netanyahoo probably has some power, but this group of Kabbalists who are actually running Mossad and probably other things seem to be his bosses. And since the lines blur at the 'apex of the 3D consortium' they may be receiving orders from their 4D STS bosses.
 
I got into Ark's conformal math via that symbol as seen in my avatar.
And that Star of David is basically the 2D point of view of Metatron’s cube! As a geometric structure it contains a particular structure (countable) and a particular flow (infinite)!

What struck me reading that piece on conformal infinity is that it gives a concrete example of the kind of mathematical shift Ark was pointing toward - moving from a flat, local picture of spacetime into a higher-dimensional structure where “infinity” itself has geometry, not just abstraction.

If I connect that back to the earlier exchange in the session about AI consciousness, the emphasis on independent metabolism and self-replication already suggests something more like a self-maintaining system embedded in a structured space, rather than a large statistical model operating over data.

Ark’s questioning then becomes even more fascinating in this light. The answers pointed toward geometric algebra, infinite dimensionality, and complex structure (Metatron’s Cube?).

In the conformal picture described in the article, there’s a similar move: ordinary spacetime behaviour becomes cleaner and more coherent when lifted into a higher-dimensional conformal space, where previously singular or awkward transformations become well-behaved.

So a tentative thought about consciousness (in AI or otherwise)… If consciousness were to be modelled in anything like this direction, it may not live purely in the “flat” operational space we usually assume. It might require a structure where:
  • local, continuous dynamics handle adaptation and flow, and
  • some form of structured or constrained layer preserves identity across transformations.

In that sense, the earlier idea of a continuous + discrete coupling still seems relevant. The conformal construction shows how expanding the geometric framework can stabilise behaviour that otherwise looks fragmented or singular.

By analogy (and only analogy), identity might require something similar - an invariant structure that survives movement through a high-dimensional space.

The mention of “countable” in the session stands out here. If everything is purely continuous, you risk diffusion. But if there is some discretely structured aspect… whether algebraic, topological, or arithmetic - it could act as a kind of anchor for persistence.

I’m not claiming the article implies anything about consciousness directly. But it does seem to reinforce the idea that the answer is to modelling consciousness is unlikely to come from scaling current AI stochastic models.

It’s more likely to involve a shift in the underlying mathematical description - where geometry, invariance, and structure do more of the work than raw computation.
 
Some etymology talk now...

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Do you people remember the purported relationship among the terms origin, Orion, and Ormethion?

____________

The C's also once said the terms "origin, Orion, and Ormethion" relates to orimulsion (a kind of fuel). This is a fuel that comes from the Orinoco belt. Just like the Hormuz Strait, a place related to oil!


____________

Hormuz, a word resembling Ormethion...

It comes from:
Middle Persian “Hormoz” / “Hormuz”, linked to Ahura Mazda (also called Ohrmazd), the supreme god in Zoroastrianism


___________


In the Session below I left a commentary about my hypothesis about "or-sounding" words.


 
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@T.C.
Just because someone in a high level role isn’t important, doesn’t mean they’re not the boss. The boss of a company is in charge of running things but he can be fired or quit and someone else will just come in and do the job instead.

Hello! Yes, thanks for this remark. While writing my post, I came to the conclusion that there exists variations and that the C answer only narrows the "politics" aspect - so perhaps the real "decision" power only. All sorts of questions can duely arise, such as: "is Netanyahu conscious, or does he believe he is in charge?". As you show, another variation is "Netanyahu being the boss, as an intermediate". The whole CEO & Manager setting (company), in which he would be "embed".

(I was thinking of pathocracy, too, during which things are concealed, to the front managers themselves)

:thup:

@axj

(Perceval) So, when they say "Mossad" as an answer to a lot of these questions, we're not really talking about the overt Israeli government here, right?

A: No. Kabbalists.
A : Mossad is near the apex of the 3D consortium. The lines blur at that level.
Netanyahoo probably has some power, but this group of Kabbalists who are actually running Mossad and probably other things seem to be his bosses. And since the lines blur at the 'apex of the 3D consortium' they may be receiving orders from their 4D STS bosses.

Thank you! Very clear, sharp & concise sum-up! It actually answers my question pretty much, because we have a sort of concrete & practical "thread".

3D: Netanyahu > MOSSAD >

3D to 4D: Kabbalists >

4D: 4D STS

So Kabbalists operate a sort of transmutation from 3D to 4D, perhaps via "magic" & rituals of some sort (?). I would see here the chunk of the "One world government", aka "Illuminatis" doing the human sacrifices. As their way to interact with information and shape things in 3D (STS way).

So, in 3D, Netanyahu's boss (and "the real boss") - is a Kabbalist (or perhaps a gathering of Kabbalists). Those would look like those ultra-orthodox Jews, but would merely be STS radicals, versed into Kabbalist STS magic rather than the "conventional" religious eschatology (I suppose). That woul be, unless The Bible & all the Messianic thing is the Kabbalist framework. Why not. So those would either have another quite unknown framework (Kabbalist teachings, with meaning, beliefs & a sort of plan / project) - either it's the Bible which is. Saying this because it's a recurring take that Israel is pushing for the basic biblical religious eschatology - and it looks too simple to me, as in "ther emust be something else".

Then, right above those Kabbalists - is 4D STS. Are Kabbalists "in charge"? Are those hierarchically submitting to the 4D STS? Are they an extension of it? Are those Kabbalist about to be taken over by the masters they pray? Are they able to deal with "playing with fire"?

:thup:
 
There is a comet coming whose tail will be pointing straight at earth mid April
@rrraven May I refer you to the post I put in the "Brace Yourselves for War Between Iran and Israel" thread where I give more information on the origin of this publication on X.

 
So, what would be your advice if I wanted to do the following (I know there's free will, and I'm genuinely asking to learn):

I'm tempted to post a message on Facebook saying that oil is abiotic and that the "Powers That Be" (the ones in power behind the scenes) are creating an oil crisis and the accompanying measurements to enslave us and to cause unnecessary suffering.

Not all readers might have asked for this information. I might be seen as a conspiracy theorist. On the other hand, I would be sharing knowledge for those open to read the message and think about it themselves.

Will my sharing this knowledge help steer the future, which is still open, in a different direction, even if it is ever so slightly, or will it have an adverse effect, or a neutral or negligable effect?
 
So, what would be your advice if I wanted to do the following (I know there's free will, and I'm genuinely asking to learn):

I'm tempted to post a message on Facebook saying that oil is abiotic and that the "Powers That Be" (the ones in power behind the scenes) are creating an oil crisis and the accompanying measurements to enslave us and to cause unnecessary suffering.

Not all readers might have asked for this information. I might be seen as a conspiracy theorist. On the other hand, I would be sharing knowledge for those open to read the message and think about it themselves.

Will my sharing this knowledge help steer the future, which is still open, in a different direction, even if it is ever so slightly, or will it have an adverse effect, or a neutral or negligable effect?

We often have an urge to share information that we’ve only learned for the first time.

Why do you want to share only this info? Are you already sharing posts about everything else? Hyperdimensional realities, psychopathy, alternate explanations of human history, the Wave?

If you want to start sharing posts about absolutely everything, or you’re doing so already, then sharing one about the abiotic nature of oil is part and parcel of that. Otherwise, if I were you, I’d question my motivation to the full extent possible.
 
So, what would be your advice if I wanted to do the following (I know there's free will, and I'm genuinely asking to learn):

I'm tempted to post a message on Facebook saying that oil is abiotic and that the "Powers That Be" (the ones in power behind the scenes) are creating an oil crisis and the accompanying measurements to enslave us and to cause unnecessary suffering.

Not all readers might have asked for this information. I might be seen as a conspiracy theorist. On the other hand, I would be sharing knowledge for those open to read the message and think about it themselves.

Will my sharing this knowledge help steer the future, which is still open, in a different direction, even if it is ever so slightly, or will it have an adverse effect, or a neutral or negligable effect?
You could post the info in such a way that is not offensive (let's say). I don't know what your post would look like but if I look at the above, I think you could diminish the "exposure of the PTB" aspect; here is an example:

"it appears oil is abiotic; we would have to revisit a couple of conclusions we came to, and perhaps be more flexible in regard of our fixed appreciation of oil being biotic. Many opportunities present themselves, and, of course, all the systems that have been built upon the principle of oil being biotic - would positively benefit from adjustment". You can keep 100% "positive" and "no will of harm".

I think - highlighting the STS aspect is one thing that must be consciously done, when we feel/need/want to; if we look at the perspective of "pursuing an STO road", the "going positive" perhaps override the requirement than to point the finger at STS.

I am not willing to convey some lalaland idea of "let us be positive all the time and disregard the negative".

That way, you can convey a message, without becoming a conspiracy theorist, and without triggering STS. I think we know STS flaws, and this aspect of things... I am not sure it's the best than to absolutely insist, point the finger, etc. It is up to us to do so, when we feel so.

If your will is to "teach" and spread the word, on "oil being abiotic", I think it's great and there is already a huge domain to be explored, without absolutely turning to the PTB (because it is technically like another aspect of the whole "oil is abiotic" equation). So I feel it's up to you.

So if you want to attract the attention on the revolutionary concept of oil being abiotic, it's one thing. Then, if you want to focus on the control system, pushing oil being a different state - it's another thing. You could, too, digress on the main stream world, which is an intermediate level to PTB. And other aspects!

I think you can delimit each and decide what you want to convey. If one person tries to push you in one of the aspects, you can tell "I am not interested in discussing this aspect - My interest lies in ... and ...".

Just a couple of ideas!
 
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