Why don't you do some research on it and let us know?
Session 21 March 2026
- Thread starter Laura
- Start date
Thassa
Jedi Master
I did! I didn't find anything!
I checked in the Russian Internet and it seems to be freely accessible, though there is probably not much to see without professional mountaineering equipment and know-how.
There is an observation platform on top of that mountain, which suggests that people can go up there without limitations.
Also, don't know if it was mentioned but the Nazi occult organization Ahnenerbe searched that mountain during WW2. People think they were looking for an entrance to Shambala (undergrounders).
Benjamin
The Living Force
@Thassa you also might have better luck searching for Khara Hora.
Evidence of Nazis in the area is shown by a swastika carving into a nearby rock.
However, there is a much older, and very different, swastika also in the area.
You can see better versions of both in the middle of this video.
As far as the search for Shambhala goes, in one of the Cass book review videos (was it in one of the Darkness Over Tibet videos?) it was discussed that Shambhala is "up", an ideal that one aspires to, whereas Agartha is underground. I think the Ahnenerbe were looking for Agartha... or both, why not both.
Evidence of Nazis in the area is shown by a swastika carving into a nearby rock.
However, there is a much older, and very different, swastika also in the area.
You can see better versions of both in the middle of this video.
As far as the search for Shambhala goes, in one of the Cass book review videos (was it in one of the Darkness Over Tibet videos?) it was discussed that Shambhala is "up", an ideal that one aspires to, whereas Agartha is underground. I think the Ahnenerbe were looking for Agartha... or both, why not both.
Not sure of the them, but the message seems to be incorrect. It looks to me like muddying the waters and they are different from C's ( control hierarchy top to bottom - 4D STS Dracos -> Illuminati -> rothschilds -> Royal Family ) .
- Rothschilds didn't taken over UK Royal bloodlines, controlled through technology
- bloodlines are tinkered to control. Rothschilds are later arrivals (around late 18th century).
- Rothschilds destroyed their planet
- This is stretching too far. True, Kantek folks destroyed their planet (78K BCE), undergrounders are all Kantek types ( initially went underground 12K BCE to escape comets), Rothschilds are undergrounders. In a way, most of the people on the planet has form of "aryan" genes. C's use the word "Aryan" for post-YD period events - Druids as early aryans who built stonehenge around 8K BCE.
- Rothschilds have technologies that Draco's need to survive.
- It is other way around. Dracos(4D STS) FULLY control undergrounders (Rothschilds) and so on.
EricLux
Dagobah Resident
Thanks @Laura and all for this session and specially @ark for the scientific questions ! 
Reading his Q&A made me realize quite a few things, so I thought I'd share them with you. Here you will find some questions to deepen our understanding:
Nature of the 4th dimension
Q1. In the session of November 14, 1998, the Cs confirmed that the 4th dimension is not Einstein's time but "an added spatial reference" allowing one to "visualize outwardly and inwardly simultaneously". In the session of August 27, 2022, the Cs confirmed step by step: the 4th dimension is a frequency, its geometry has a metric tensor but no distance concept, and this metric is degenerate — meaning zero distance between distinct points. Is this degenerate metric precisely the mathematical structure of the split octonion algebra 𝕆' with signature (4,4), where the 7 imaginary directions are isotropic — vectors of zero length — and correspond to the 7 densities?
Q2. In the session of May 27, 1995, the Cs told Roger Santilli: "Merge geometry with optics" and then "Matrix". In physics, the difference between the Laplace equation (geometry/mechanics) and the Maxwell wave equation (optics) generates a purely imaginary residue — what we call i·dx. Is this residue precisely the missing factor you referred to in Santilli's isogeometry — the one you said he had left out?
Q3. In the session of August 27, 2022, the Cs confirmed that the 4th dimension has a degenerate metric with zero distance between distinct points. In the session of November 14, 1998, They also said this dimension "has not been hypothesized" in modern physics. Is the correct mathematical candidate, the contact metric on the 3-sphere S³ via the Hopf fibration above ℂP¹ — where the fiber direction is precisely the isotropic direction of the 4th density, allowing simultaneous interior and exterior visualization as you described?
Q4. In the session of January 4, 1997, the Cs told @ark : "There is no right or left in 4th density through 7th density". For me, this means the 4th dimension integrates both chiralities simultaneously — which is the mathematical signature of a non-orientable space. Is the 4th dimension, as the plan at infinity of 3D space, precisely the real projective plane RP² — a continuous, unbounded, non-quantifiable surface that identifies opposing polarities and cannot be connected to Euclidean space by any finite path?
Q5. In the session of May 27, 1995, we learn that to access 4D reality, one must realize that “Matter is Consciousness and vice versa”. However, the only way connecting Matter and the perceiver’s Consciousness is perception. Perception seems to be the result of the confluence between consciousness and matter. Is the 4th “dimension” of space 1) perception, 2) the integration of conscious perceiver’s through their perception, 3) the ether that physicists seek to explain the dynamics of light as a material substance, 4) a particular form of magnetism, 5) gravity in the form of unstable gravitational waves or 6) all of the above, given that we are entering a non-linear reality?
Gravity, light, antimatter and the unified Field
Q6. In the session of June 15, 1996, the Cs said: "Gravity is all there is", "Gravity is God" and "Light is energy expression generated by gravity". In the session of September 19, 1998, "Gravity is the binder between matter and antimatter" and "The speed of light exists within the larger framework of gravity". In the session of May 23, 2020, the Cs answered @ark's direct question with "Supersedes" when asked whether gravity respects the speed of light. Does this mean that gravity in its complete form is a unified tensor g⁺/g⁻ — where g⁺ is the matter component (attractive, collection) and g⁻ is the antimatter component (repulsive, dispersion) — and that what physics currently observes as gravity is only the g⁺ projection of this tensor?
Q7. In the session of April 23, 2022, the Cs confirmed to @ark : "Should the theory of gravity be formulated as electromagnetism rather than what Einstein did? Yes". You also confirmed in a previous session that bi-metric gravity is "close enough but you can expand and improve it". Is the precise improvement that the relationship between g⁺ and g⁻ is exactly analogous to the E/B duality in electromagnetism — where g⁺ corresponds to the electric field (collection, matter) and g⁻ to the magnetic field (dispersion, antimatter), unified in a single antisymmetric tensor in Clifford algebra Cl(4,2)?
Q8. In the session of May 31, 1997, the Cs said: "Gravity and magnetism are born of the same source". In the session of June 15, 1996, the Cs confirmed: "Can sound manipulate gravity? Yes" and "Generation is really collecting and dispersing". Is the common source of gravity and magnetism the degenerate metric of the 4th dimension — where the chiral rotation between g⁺ and g⁻ produces what we call interdimensional magnetism, exactly as a variable electric field induces a magnetic field in ordinary electromagnetism via Maxwell-Faraday induction?
Q9. In the session of May 27, 1995, the Cs said to Santilli: "Light, gravity, optics, atomic particles, matter, antimatter — unify, please" and confirmed that "all are vibrations of the medium that fills up the entire universe." In the session of June 15, 1996, "Gravity binds all that is physical with all that is ethereal through unstable gravity waves". Is this universal medium the θ field of the degenerate metric — a sine-Gordon type field in a Galilean metric — whose oscillations between matter state (+) and antimatter state (−) generate the matter/antimatter duality and whose equilibrium point θ = π/4 corresponds to the 4th dimension as the dynamic zero between the two polarities?
4th dimension as a variable constant
Q10. In the session of August 27, 2022, the Cs confirmed to @ark that the speed of light is not constant (varies with frequency) and that Planck's constant is not constant. In the session of September 19, 1998, unstable gravity waves are "timeless" and instantaneous. Are c, h, and G all local (3D) projections of a single deeper parameter — the frequency of the degenerate metric of the 4th dimension ? Is the 4th dimension a constant as the common denominator of all spaces, all energies so that it appears as a variable in 4D ?
Q11. In the session of May 27, 2000, the Cs answered "... one on 4th density perceives objects in terms of their own union with all of them?" and "Who is in union with the objects? Perceiver". Is the 4th dimension a constant that hasn't been discovered yet as the dynamic harmonic coordinator of all vibrations across densities ? Is 4th density a 4D reality where everything is connected by a constant (the 4th "dimension") that hasn't been discovered and which allows us, as a perceiver, to be part of everything ?
Q12. In the session of September 19, 1998, the Cs told @ark : "The speed of light exists within the larger framework of gravity". In the session of April 8, 2023, Pierre asked about measured variations in the speed of light between 1929 and 1945 and the Cs answered: "Variations in density subjugation" and "Gravity wave". Does this mean that local variations of c are variations of the coupling constant between the ordinary 3D metric and the degenerate 4D metric — that is, variations in the local value of the frequency parameter of the 4th dimension, driven by cosmological unstable gravity waves?
Q13. In the session of September 19, 1998, the Cs confirmed that the intensity of unstable gravity waves does not decrease with distance — "No" was the direct answer. In the same session, that they are "timeless". Does this mean that in the degenerate metric, the concept of propagation does not apply — that what appears as a wave in 3D is simply a chiral rotation in the isotropic plane of Cl(4,2), which has no velocity because it has no spatial extension in the degenerate direction?
Ark's mathematical program
Q14. In the session of May 23, 2020, the Cs told "Clifford with enhancements, infinite dimensional" and confirmed that sub-Riemannian geometry is the right track, that the Dirac operator links Riemann to Pauli and that algebraic spinors are better than ordinary spinors. Is the specific enhancement the inclusion of the G₂ group action on the split octonions 𝕆' — so that the enhanced infinite-dimensional Clifford algebra is Cl∞(4,2) with G₂ symmetry, whose 12 roots correspond to the 12×12×12 matrix indicated in an earlier session?
Q15. In the session of July 24, 1999, the Cs gave the instruction: "Octagonal complexigram. Try possibility 1-c first" — a complex connection without curvature, without torsion. They also gave "six signs" and "four plus, two minus" indicating signature (4,2). Is possibility 1-c precisely the G₂-invariant connection on the split octonion bundle over the 4-sphere S⁴ — whose structure group is Spin(7) and whose fiber is S⁷ via the Hopf fibration — which simultaneously encodes gravity (as curvature of the base S⁴) and electromagnetism (as curvature of the fiber S³)?
Q16. In the session of October 20, 2018, the Cs confirmed that Atiyah was "definitely onto something", with his geometric derivation of the fine structure constant α, and suggested that "something should be reversed" and linked α to "dark things in relation to light and electricity". In the session of February 25, 2023, They told that Wyler "made assumptions". The historical criticism of Wyler identifies his unjustified normalization on the Shilov boundary of domain D₅. Is the correct assumption — the one that fixes Wyler's derivation — that the measure on the Shilov boundary must be the G₂-invariant measure on the split octonion unit sphere, rather than the standard SO(5,2)-invariant measure?
Q17. In the session of May 23, 2020, the Cs confirmed: "Drop off signs — Yes" and "Sub-Riemannian geometry — Yes". In the session of October 8, 2001, "From signs you get Riemann" and "Operators link Riemann to Pauli". They also confirmed in the session of March 15, 1997 that the Galilean group is better than the Lorentz group because of "the symmetric calculations they used as a basis". In sub-Riemannian geometry with the Dirac operator on signature (4,2), dropping signs means going to a degenerate metric — the 4th dimension. Is the correct procedure to start with the Galilean structure, add the degenerate frequency direction as the 4th parameter, and derive the Lorentz approximation as valid only in the limit where the degenerate coupling is negligible?
Q18. In the session of April 8, 2023, the Cs confirmed that phi "is a key component to the puzzle concerning gravity waves". In a session from late 1998, you also linked phi to Mandelbrot and said "try inserting phi" into the matter/antimatter matrix. For me, the eigenvalues of the Dirac operator on the Cl(4,2) quadric follow a Fibonacci progression whose ratio approaches phi. Is phi the scaling ratio of the G₂ root system — the ratio between long and short roots of G₂ — which appears naturally as the proportion between successive modes of unstable gravity waves as they rotate between g⁺ and g⁻?
Q19. In the session of October 8, 2001, the Cs told "Integrate integers — indeed, space-time is a lattice". In a session from late 1998, They gave the 12×12×12 matrix and said "try it and see" when asked why 12. For me, the 12 roots of G₂ correspond to the 12 directions of this matrix and the components are in the ring ℤ[φ] — integers combined with phi. Is the correct integer lattice for Ark's unified theory the E₈ lattice — which contains the G₂ root system as a sublattice and the Cl(4,2) structure as a sub-algebra — projected onto the (4,2) signature subspace?
Q20. In the session of April 23, 2022, the Cs confirmed that the 7 densities can be described by algebra and that octonions are better than quaternions. The 7 imaginary directions of the split octonions 𝕆' correspond to the 7 lines of the Fano plane and each line carries exactly one quaternionic sub-algebra. Is each density precisely one line of the Fano plane — where the 3 points on each line correspond to the 3 basis quaternions that constitute the physical laws of that density — so that the transition between densities is a rotation in the Fano plane under G₂?
Consciousness, DNA and the perceiver
Q21. In the session of July 10, 1999, the Cs confirmed: "That which extends into 4th density is that which is effected by the pituitary gland — the psychic" and that DNA acts as a variable superconductor. In the session of June 15, 1996, "Gravity binds all that is physical with all that is ethereal through unstable gravity waves". Is the pituitary gland's role as frequency receptor the biological instance of the degenerate metric connection — where the gland sits at the zero-distance point between the 3D neurological system and the 4D frequency space, functioning as the biological G₂-invariant connector between the two metric structures?
Q22. In the session of May 27, 1995, the Cs said "The illusion is that there is not a link between consciousness and matter", "Variable physicality is the key — awareness of the link between consciousness and matter makes physicality variable" and "Level Seven consciousness creates gravity". For me, the preceiver is the living degenerate point — the zero-distance junction between matter (g⁺) and consciousness (g⁻). Is awareness of this link what mathematically corresponds to activating the isotropic direction e₄ in the split octonions — that is, accessing the 4th dimension not as a location but as a mode of perception that makes physicality variable by coupling the 3D metric to the degenerate 4D metric?
Q23. In the session of May 27, 1995, the Cs confirmed "Level Seven consciousness creates gravity — not our consciousness". In the session of April 23, 2022, "Consciousness is life, life is consciousness". For me, the 7th density corresponds to the real unit e₀ of the octonions — the only non-isotropic direction, the source from which the 7 imaginary isotropic directions (the 7 densities) are generated by chiral rotation. Is the 7th density precisely this real direction e₀ of 𝕆', whose gravitational creation is the differentiation of matter from antimatter through the G₂ chiral rotation — so that "gravity is God" means literally that the G₂ action of 7th density consciousness on e₀ generates the g⁺/g⁻ unified tensor?
Reading his Q&A made me realize quite a few things, so I thought I'd share them with you. Here you will find some questions to deepen our understanding:
Nature of the 4th dimension
Q1. In the session of November 14, 1998, the Cs confirmed that the 4th dimension is not Einstein's time but "an added spatial reference" allowing one to "visualize outwardly and inwardly simultaneously". In the session of August 27, 2022, the Cs confirmed step by step: the 4th dimension is a frequency, its geometry has a metric tensor but no distance concept, and this metric is degenerate — meaning zero distance between distinct points. Is this degenerate metric precisely the mathematical structure of the split octonion algebra 𝕆' with signature (4,4), where the 7 imaginary directions are isotropic — vectors of zero length — and correspond to the 7 densities?
Q2. In the session of May 27, 1995, the Cs told Roger Santilli: "Merge geometry with optics" and then "Matrix". In physics, the difference between the Laplace equation (geometry/mechanics) and the Maxwell wave equation (optics) generates a purely imaginary residue — what we call i·dx. Is this residue precisely the missing factor you referred to in Santilli's isogeometry — the one you said he had left out?
Q3. In the session of August 27, 2022, the Cs confirmed that the 4th dimension has a degenerate metric with zero distance between distinct points. In the session of November 14, 1998, They also said this dimension "has not been hypothesized" in modern physics. Is the correct mathematical candidate, the contact metric on the 3-sphere S³ via the Hopf fibration above ℂP¹ — where the fiber direction is precisely the isotropic direction of the 4th density, allowing simultaneous interior and exterior visualization as you described?
Q4. In the session of January 4, 1997, the Cs told @ark : "There is no right or left in 4th density through 7th density". For me, this means the 4th dimension integrates both chiralities simultaneously — which is the mathematical signature of a non-orientable space. Is the 4th dimension, as the plan at infinity of 3D space, precisely the real projective plane RP² — a continuous, unbounded, non-quantifiable surface that identifies opposing polarities and cannot be connected to Euclidean space by any finite path?
Q5. In the session of May 27, 1995, we learn that to access 4D reality, one must realize that “Matter is Consciousness and vice versa”. However, the only way connecting Matter and the perceiver’s Consciousness is perception. Perception seems to be the result of the confluence between consciousness and matter. Is the 4th “dimension” of space 1) perception, 2) the integration of conscious perceiver’s through their perception, 3) the ether that physicists seek to explain the dynamics of light as a material substance, 4) a particular form of magnetism, 5) gravity in the form of unstable gravitational waves or 6) all of the above, given that we are entering a non-linear reality?
Gravity, light, antimatter and the unified Field
Q6. In the session of June 15, 1996, the Cs said: "Gravity is all there is", "Gravity is God" and "Light is energy expression generated by gravity". In the session of September 19, 1998, "Gravity is the binder between matter and antimatter" and "The speed of light exists within the larger framework of gravity". In the session of May 23, 2020, the Cs answered @ark's direct question with "Supersedes" when asked whether gravity respects the speed of light. Does this mean that gravity in its complete form is a unified tensor g⁺/g⁻ — where g⁺ is the matter component (attractive, collection) and g⁻ is the antimatter component (repulsive, dispersion) — and that what physics currently observes as gravity is only the g⁺ projection of this tensor?
Q7. In the session of April 23, 2022, the Cs confirmed to @ark : "Should the theory of gravity be formulated as electromagnetism rather than what Einstein did? Yes". You also confirmed in a previous session that bi-metric gravity is "close enough but you can expand and improve it". Is the precise improvement that the relationship between g⁺ and g⁻ is exactly analogous to the E/B duality in electromagnetism — where g⁺ corresponds to the electric field (collection, matter) and g⁻ to the magnetic field (dispersion, antimatter), unified in a single antisymmetric tensor in Clifford algebra Cl(4,2)?
Q8. In the session of May 31, 1997, the Cs said: "Gravity and magnetism are born of the same source". In the session of June 15, 1996, the Cs confirmed: "Can sound manipulate gravity? Yes" and "Generation is really collecting and dispersing". Is the common source of gravity and magnetism the degenerate metric of the 4th dimension — where the chiral rotation between g⁺ and g⁻ produces what we call interdimensional magnetism, exactly as a variable electric field induces a magnetic field in ordinary electromagnetism via Maxwell-Faraday induction?
Q9. In the session of May 27, 1995, the Cs said to Santilli: "Light, gravity, optics, atomic particles, matter, antimatter — unify, please" and confirmed that "all are vibrations of the medium that fills up the entire universe." In the session of June 15, 1996, "Gravity binds all that is physical with all that is ethereal through unstable gravity waves". Is this universal medium the θ field of the degenerate metric — a sine-Gordon type field in a Galilean metric — whose oscillations between matter state (+) and antimatter state (−) generate the matter/antimatter duality and whose equilibrium point θ = π/4 corresponds to the 4th dimension as the dynamic zero between the two polarities?
4th dimension as a variable constant
Q10. In the session of August 27, 2022, the Cs confirmed to @ark that the speed of light is not constant (varies with frequency) and that Planck's constant is not constant. In the session of September 19, 1998, unstable gravity waves are "timeless" and instantaneous. Are c, h, and G all local (3D) projections of a single deeper parameter — the frequency of the degenerate metric of the 4th dimension ? Is the 4th dimension a constant as the common denominator of all spaces, all energies so that it appears as a variable in 4D ?
Q11. In the session of May 27, 2000, the Cs answered "... one on 4th density perceives objects in terms of their own union with all of them?" and "Who is in union with the objects? Perceiver". Is the 4th dimension a constant that hasn't been discovered yet as the dynamic harmonic coordinator of all vibrations across densities ? Is 4th density a 4D reality where everything is connected by a constant (the 4th "dimension") that hasn't been discovered and which allows us, as a perceiver, to be part of everything ?
Q12. In the session of September 19, 1998, the Cs told @ark : "The speed of light exists within the larger framework of gravity". In the session of April 8, 2023, Pierre asked about measured variations in the speed of light between 1929 and 1945 and the Cs answered: "Variations in density subjugation" and "Gravity wave". Does this mean that local variations of c are variations of the coupling constant between the ordinary 3D metric and the degenerate 4D metric — that is, variations in the local value of the frequency parameter of the 4th dimension, driven by cosmological unstable gravity waves?
Q13. In the session of September 19, 1998, the Cs confirmed that the intensity of unstable gravity waves does not decrease with distance — "No" was the direct answer. In the same session, that they are "timeless". Does this mean that in the degenerate metric, the concept of propagation does not apply — that what appears as a wave in 3D is simply a chiral rotation in the isotropic plane of Cl(4,2), which has no velocity because it has no spatial extension in the degenerate direction?
Ark's mathematical program
Q14. In the session of May 23, 2020, the Cs told "Clifford with enhancements, infinite dimensional" and confirmed that sub-Riemannian geometry is the right track, that the Dirac operator links Riemann to Pauli and that algebraic spinors are better than ordinary spinors. Is the specific enhancement the inclusion of the G₂ group action on the split octonions 𝕆' — so that the enhanced infinite-dimensional Clifford algebra is Cl∞(4,2) with G₂ symmetry, whose 12 roots correspond to the 12×12×12 matrix indicated in an earlier session?
Q15. In the session of July 24, 1999, the Cs gave the instruction: "Octagonal complexigram. Try possibility 1-c first" — a complex connection without curvature, without torsion. They also gave "six signs" and "four plus, two minus" indicating signature (4,2). Is possibility 1-c precisely the G₂-invariant connection on the split octonion bundle over the 4-sphere S⁴ — whose structure group is Spin(7) and whose fiber is S⁷ via the Hopf fibration — which simultaneously encodes gravity (as curvature of the base S⁴) and electromagnetism (as curvature of the fiber S³)?
Q16. In the session of October 20, 2018, the Cs confirmed that Atiyah was "definitely onto something", with his geometric derivation of the fine structure constant α, and suggested that "something should be reversed" and linked α to "dark things in relation to light and electricity". In the session of February 25, 2023, They told that Wyler "made assumptions". The historical criticism of Wyler identifies his unjustified normalization on the Shilov boundary of domain D₅. Is the correct assumption — the one that fixes Wyler's derivation — that the measure on the Shilov boundary must be the G₂-invariant measure on the split octonion unit sphere, rather than the standard SO(5,2)-invariant measure?
Q17. In the session of May 23, 2020, the Cs confirmed: "Drop off signs — Yes" and "Sub-Riemannian geometry — Yes". In the session of October 8, 2001, "From signs you get Riemann" and "Operators link Riemann to Pauli". They also confirmed in the session of March 15, 1997 that the Galilean group is better than the Lorentz group because of "the symmetric calculations they used as a basis". In sub-Riemannian geometry with the Dirac operator on signature (4,2), dropping signs means going to a degenerate metric — the 4th dimension. Is the correct procedure to start with the Galilean structure, add the degenerate frequency direction as the 4th parameter, and derive the Lorentz approximation as valid only in the limit where the degenerate coupling is negligible?
Q18. In the session of April 8, 2023, the Cs confirmed that phi "is a key component to the puzzle concerning gravity waves". In a session from late 1998, you also linked phi to Mandelbrot and said "try inserting phi" into the matter/antimatter matrix. For me, the eigenvalues of the Dirac operator on the Cl(4,2) quadric follow a Fibonacci progression whose ratio approaches phi. Is phi the scaling ratio of the G₂ root system — the ratio between long and short roots of G₂ — which appears naturally as the proportion between successive modes of unstable gravity waves as they rotate between g⁺ and g⁻?
Q19. In the session of October 8, 2001, the Cs told "Integrate integers — indeed, space-time is a lattice". In a session from late 1998, They gave the 12×12×12 matrix and said "try it and see" when asked why 12. For me, the 12 roots of G₂ correspond to the 12 directions of this matrix and the components are in the ring ℤ[φ] — integers combined with phi. Is the correct integer lattice for Ark's unified theory the E₈ lattice — which contains the G₂ root system as a sublattice and the Cl(4,2) structure as a sub-algebra — projected onto the (4,2) signature subspace?
Q20. In the session of April 23, 2022, the Cs confirmed that the 7 densities can be described by algebra and that octonions are better than quaternions. The 7 imaginary directions of the split octonions 𝕆' correspond to the 7 lines of the Fano plane and each line carries exactly one quaternionic sub-algebra. Is each density precisely one line of the Fano plane — where the 3 points on each line correspond to the 3 basis quaternions that constitute the physical laws of that density — so that the transition between densities is a rotation in the Fano plane under G₂?
Consciousness, DNA and the perceiver
Q21. In the session of July 10, 1999, the Cs confirmed: "That which extends into 4th density is that which is effected by the pituitary gland — the psychic" and that DNA acts as a variable superconductor. In the session of June 15, 1996, "Gravity binds all that is physical with all that is ethereal through unstable gravity waves". Is the pituitary gland's role as frequency receptor the biological instance of the degenerate metric connection — where the gland sits at the zero-distance point between the 3D neurological system and the 4D frequency space, functioning as the biological G₂-invariant connector between the two metric structures?
Q22. In the session of May 27, 1995, the Cs said "The illusion is that there is not a link between consciousness and matter", "Variable physicality is the key — awareness of the link between consciousness and matter makes physicality variable" and "Level Seven consciousness creates gravity". For me, the preceiver is the living degenerate point — the zero-distance junction between matter (g⁺) and consciousness (g⁻). Is awareness of this link what mathematically corresponds to activating the isotropic direction e₄ in the split octonions — that is, accessing the 4th dimension not as a location but as a mode of perception that makes physicality variable by coupling the 3D metric to the degenerate 4D metric?
Q23. In the session of May 27, 1995, the Cs confirmed "Level Seven consciousness creates gravity — not our consciousness". In the session of April 23, 2022, "Consciousness is life, life is consciousness". For me, the 7th density corresponds to the real unit e₀ of the octonions — the only non-isotropic direction, the source from which the 7 imaginary isotropic directions (the 7 densities) are generated by chiral rotation. Is the 7th density precisely this real direction e₀ of 𝕆', whose gravitational creation is the differentiation of matter from antimatter through the G₂ chiral rotation — so that "gravity is God" means literally that the G₂ action of 7th density consciousness on e₀ generates the g⁺/g⁻ unified tensor?
lilies
The Living Force
Sounds like the advanced Cosmic version of the The "Chair Game":
Registering ourselves as a viable soul group in the Universe:
Create a place and reserve space in the Universe:
Point out what possible future outcomes that group of collinear consciousnesses will prefer.
Run to and sit on one of The Cosmic Chairs. While the others - Orion STS - and similar remote galactic Political Interest Groups, like Fornax STS, Virgo STS, Hercules STO, Sagittarius STS, Leo STO, etc.. all running around and sitting down, reserving their lawful place in the Universe, the right to exist in a viable reality, defending it from Ormethion manipulation by significantly increased knowledge.
Bernardo GA
Jedi Master
Lately, I’ve been reflecting a bit more deeply on the following exchange:
While there is no denying the harm caused to so many people by the decisions of this administration, let us not forget that the person who finds himself in the terrible position of representing it is a terrified human being.
Just to be clear, I’m not trying to whitewash Trump’s image. It may well be that his arrogant personality, his inflated ego, and his profound ignorance are what have put him in this terrible situation.
That said, I now want to share what I’ve been thinking, just as a possibility.
Given that Trump is under mortal threat—for example, that his loved ones will be tortured to death if he does not obey—he, in his desperation, might be trying to get out of the presidential office he currently holds.
And getting out of there isn’t as simple as just resigning from his post and that’s it. Most likely, the threats include a warning not to do that.
If that is the case, what Trump might try to do is do everything possible to get others to remove him from office through other means.
To that end, one strategy could be to invite as much condemnation as possible, especially from his voters. That includes insulting influential figures like Tucker Carlson and others who have previously supported him.
If we look at Trump’s behavior lately, he seems like someone who has completely lost his mind.
That possibility exists. But it might not be quite like that.
It’s too outrageous the way he says something and then changes it or contradicts himself a moment later.
I won’t go into detail describing the whole ridiculous spectacle in which Trump is playing a central role. Did you see that complete nutcase, that woman speaking in tongues?
I repeat, it’s possible that Trump has completely lost his mind. But it’s also possible that he’s trying to get himself declared mentally unfit to lead a country, thereby getting removed from office without having to resign himself.
I believe that a person with a soul, no matter how inflated their ego may be, is capable of completely sacrificing their personal image, going down in history as a madman and a scoundrel in the eyes of the world, if that were the way to keep their loved ones, their family, safe.
I’m trying not to indulge in wishful thinking as I say all this. I simply don’t rule out the possibility that something like this is happening,
beyond the shortcomings Trump has already demonstrated in leading the country. We’ve seen that for a while now, but that’s not the point I’m trying to make right now.
I don’t know if I’ve managed to explain myself.
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While there is no denying the harm caused to so many people by the decisions of this administration, let us not forget that the person who finds himself in the terrible position of representing it is a terrified human being.
Just to be clear, I’m not trying to whitewash Trump’s image. It may well be that his arrogant personality, his inflated ego, and his profound ignorance are what have put him in this terrible situation.
That said, I now want to share what I’ve been thinking, just as a possibility.
Given that Trump is under mortal threat—for example, that his loved ones will be tortured to death if he does not obey—he, in his desperation, might be trying to get out of the presidential office he currently holds.
And getting out of there isn’t as simple as just resigning from his post and that’s it. Most likely, the threats include a warning not to do that.
If that is the case, what Trump might try to do is do everything possible to get others to remove him from office through other means.
To that end, one strategy could be to invite as much condemnation as possible, especially from his voters. That includes insulting influential figures like Tucker Carlson and others who have previously supported him.
If we look at Trump’s behavior lately, he seems like someone who has completely lost his mind.
That possibility exists. But it might not be quite like that.
It’s too outrageous the way he says something and then changes it or contradicts himself a moment later.
I won’t go into detail describing the whole ridiculous spectacle in which Trump is playing a central role. Did you see that complete nutcase, that woman speaking in tongues?
I repeat, it’s possible that Trump has completely lost his mind. But it’s also possible that he’s trying to get himself declared mentally unfit to lead a country, thereby getting removed from office without having to resign himself.
I believe that a person with a soul, no matter how inflated their ego may be, is capable of completely sacrificing their personal image, going down in history as a madman and a scoundrel in the eyes of the world, if that were the way to keep their loved ones, their family, safe.
I’m trying not to indulge in wishful thinking as I say all this. I simply don’t rule out the possibility that something like this is happening,
beyond the shortcomings Trump has already demonstrated in leading the country. We’ve seen that for a while now, but that’s not the point I’m trying to make right now.
I don’t know if I’ve managed to explain myself.
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Commenting on Trump is terrified.
What else could the Cs have responded to Joe's initial question? It could have been something like, "Wait and see!" if there were options on the table Trump would not reveal. It could also have been "He is securing alliances to secure his position." Or "Trump wants to weaken opponents (to Make America Great Again.)" Instead the answer is, "Trump is terrified"
If Trump is terrified, and does terrified mean?
Looking for a grading of fear, there was, and this will do for now, as as I am merely trying to understand the English terms better.
Level of Fear: Analysis of Fear Spectrum into a tool to support Horror Game Design for Immersion and Fear July 2018 by Konstantinos Ntokos from Southampton Solent University. Published in Computer Game Development and Education: An International Journal (CGDEIJ) Vol.1, No.137
The author has this sequence:
Level 1: Calmness
Level 2 to 4: Anxiety
Level 5 to 6: Stress
Level 7 to 8: Fear
Level 9: Terror
Level 10: Panic
Terror is related to terrified, and inbetween fear and panic. To have an idea of where Trump might be, here is how the author describes the terms, though this is all phrased to an audience of computer game developer, but it is easy to read around that angle, and perhaps even meaningful in the case of Trump as some of the impression he receives will be digital and on a screen.
The fight-or-flight response and its variations
Above in level 10, panic, there was mention of the fight or flight response. The Wiki has:
The Fawn Trauma Response Explained
Transmarginal Inhibition
In 2007 Laura wrote a detailed and informative article for SOTT Transmarginal Inhibition (TMI). People may disagree about whether or not the the concept is relevant for Trump, what he does and what happens in the society, but if Trump is described as terrified, to leave TMI out of consideration would not do.
Below are a few excerpts:
The final paragraphs introduces the reader to the less known applications of Pavlov's research:
Trump will not be told the whole truth.
Session 28 February 2026
Distraction. Real disclosure would lead to mass rejection
Session 27 April 2024
Why impeach a perfectly good puppet?
Session 16 September 2017
It appears to me that Joe rephrases the first question. "Is Trump inclined to want to find an exit from this conflict in the near future?" by asking "So what chances would they give of him being able to extricate himself from this, despite those people?" This comes close to the first, if rephrased as: What chances does Trump have of extricating himself from this conflict in the near future? The answer to the second question is: "Almost 0 at present." Given what Trump's primary concern appears to be family, and the comments from Laura and Joe on his position, that is a pretty low score.
What else could the Cs have responded to Joe's initial question? It could have been something like, "Wait and see!" if there were options on the table Trump would not reveal. It could also have been "He is securing alliances to secure his position." Or "Trump wants to weaken opponents (to Make America Great Again.)" Instead the answer is, "Trump is terrified"
If Trump is terrified, and does terrified mean?
Looking for a grading of fear, there was, and this will do for now, as as I am merely trying to understand the English terms better.
Level of Fear: Analysis of Fear Spectrum into a tool to support Horror Game Design for Immersion and Fear July 2018 by Konstantinos Ntokos from Southampton Solent University. Published in Computer Game Development and Education: An International Journal (CGDEIJ) Vol.1, No.137
The author has this sequence:
Level 1: Calmness
Level 2 to 4: Anxiety
Level 5 to 6: Stress
Level 7 to 8: Fear
Level 9: Terror
Level 10: Panic
Terror is related to terrified, and inbetween fear and panic. To have an idea of where Trump might be, here is how the author describes the terms, though this is all phrased to an audience of computer game developer, but it is easy to read around that angle, and perhaps even meaningful in the case of Trump as some of the impression he receives will be digital and on a screen.
Translating this to the situation, Trump apparently has some fears in relation to this family, that are severe and there is not much Trump can do about it. He has no weapons to combat the monsters. The good thing is that he at least can perceive them.
If Trump is terrified, does the above description of what characterizes terror fit with the state Trump is in and acting from, at this time? Which signs would Trump need to exhibit if he was a horror game player to fit the final level?
The fight-or-flight response and its variations
Above in level 10, panic, there was mention of the fight or flight response. The Wiki has:
And:
Looking up the bolded option about fawn gave this result from Wikihow
The Fawn Trauma Response Explained
There are various articles on SOTT about this topic, including Deep sleep is necessary for emotional resilience which may be difficult to achieve for President Trump, as well as Uncertainty can be stressful, but it can also aid performance which is a level he appears to be beyond at this stage. Another topic that may come to mind from the choice of the word "Terrified" and the context of Trump, might be:
Transmarginal Inhibition
In 2007 Laura wrote a detailed and informative article for SOTT Transmarginal Inhibition (TMI). People may disagree about whether or not the the concept is relevant for Trump, what he does and what happens in the society, but if Trump is described as terrified, to leave TMI out of consideration would not do.
Below are a few excerpts:
Pavlov related his studies of dogs to the behaviour of humans under stress
There are more useful details in the article, which could lead to more analysis and the application of the ideas to the case of Trump, but the purpose here is to indicate the possibility that something like that might be relevant.
The final paragraphs introduces the reader to the less known applications of Pavlov's research:
Trump is in a tough spot, and he does not know everything that might be useful to get him out of the situation. Regarding what he knows, the following is symptomatic:
Trump will not be told the whole truth.
Session 28 February 2026
That "Trump will not be told the whole truth." connects to:
Distraction. Real disclosure would lead to mass rejection
Session 27 April 2024
President Donald Trump, a terrified man with few exit options, and used as a tool like a puppet brings up the following excerpt. Even if the situation was different, something still holds.
Why impeach a perfectly good puppet?
Session 16 September 2017
So the Deep State may want to keep him for just that reason, though he has to be “managed”. - and his is.
Lately, I’ve been reflecting a bit more deeply on the following exchange:
While there is no denying the harm caused to so many people by the decisions of this administration, let us not forget that the person who finds himself in the terrible position of representing it is a terrified human being.
Just to be clear, I’m not trying to whitewash Trump’s image. It may well be that his arrogant personality, his inflated ego, and his profound ignorance are what have put him in this terrible situation.
That said, I now want to share what I’ve been thinking, just as a possibility.
Given that Trump is under mortal threat—for example, that his loved ones will be tortured to death if he does not obey—he, in his desperation, might be trying to get out of the presidential office he currently holds.
And getting out of there isn’t as simple as just resigning from his post and that’s it. Most likely, the threats include a warning not to do that.
If that is the case, what Trump might try to do is do everything possible to get others to remove him from office through other means.
To that end, one strategy could be to invite as much condemnation as possible, especially from his voters. That includes insulting influential figures like Tucker Carlson and others who have previously supported him.
If we look at Trump’s behavior lately, he seems like someone who has completely lost his mind.
That possibility exists. But it might not be quite like that.
It’s too outrageous the way he says something and then changes it or contradicts himself a moment later.
I won’t go into detail describing the whole ridiculous spectacle in which Trump is playing a central role. Did you see that complete nutcase, that woman speaking in tongues?
I repeat, it’s possible that Trump has completely lost his mind. But it’s also possible that he’s trying to get himself declared mentally unfit to lead a country, thereby getting removed from office without having to resign himself.
I believe that a person with a soul, no matter how inflated their ego may be, is capable of completely sacrificing their personal image, going down in history as a madman and a scoundrel in the eyes of the world, if that were the way to keep their loved ones, their family, safe.
I’m trying not to indulge in wishful thinking as I say all this. I simply don’t rule out the possibility that something like this is happening,
beyond the shortcomings Trump has already demonstrated in leading the country. We’ve seen that for a while now, but that’s not the point I’m trying to make right now.
I don’t know if I’ve managed to explain myself.
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I’ve been wondering the same thing.
My thoughts are that if it mattered to those who have threatened him then they can just say to him, “Stop acting crazy, or else…” But honestly I don’t think it makes much difference to them who the president is.
I don’t think he’s acting crazy to get out. I just think he IS crazy now.
I thought the same: "Is he behaving "crazy like a fox"??". Well I do hold a little hope that somewhere down the line he takes whatever opportunity that presents itself to counteract the forces arrayed against him to the extent that he can, but right now he is clearly outmatched. And if there is any part of him that still has a grip on reality, and holds good intentions, then he has to be sorely disappointed at watching his MAGA dreams evaporate before his own eyes.
I keep thinking that in a few weeks or months Trump is probably going to make one of the most important speeches ever made by a high-profile political figure; that the government is acknowledging the reality of 'alien' visitation on earth. But the sad thing (aside from it likely being very limited in scope), is that he will be making this speech almost entirely with the purpose of boosting his own approval rating, ie. "I'll be the president who tells the world the aliens are here -- and they'll love me for it!!".
And then, after all the hoopla, the Donald will summarily drop the subject.
I think so also. The stress of what he has and is going through is causing cognitive decline which is interacting with ego and extroverted personality.
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