Session 22 July 2010

[sevensama]

Thanks Laura & co! again, a very informative and revealing session. hopefully, as an only child, I'll be able to not live up exactly to the dangers of being one as described...

also, with the ice age inevitable, us Europeans should get prepared... though is it very naive of me to wonder exactly how one can prepare for such a thing? the awareness seems to be spreading here nevertheless.

(L) Yeah, they're trying to prepare people for physical, material aliens – “Disclosure” - because they're going to TRY to pull the alien invasion trick or the "alien god" trick and they'll say, "Worship the alien god! Join behind us! We're his high priests!" But it's not going to work.

In addition to this, I have noticed that TV channels around here seem to be broadcasting a lot of 'alien' and sci-fi films lately. We've been having the Matrix, War of the Worlds, Contact and some other films all playing within the span of two weeks and I think there are more coming up. (and this whilst previously it seemed these channels preferred romantic-comedies and the like). Interesting...

 

[SilverJeep]

After reading the session (and all 11 pages of comments), I have a few questions that I didn’t see answered.

1. Did or have the C’s said when the riots/collapse would be start (or be obvious)?
I’ve heard several people (on different forums) say “It’s already begun!” but I’m not buying it. When you can still get all groceries you need, go out to dinner and see a movie, collapse has not begun.

2. Is the 5D city on a hill Washington DC? Or the US as a whole? What is 5D?
(…I know that’s 3 questions, but it’s all the same thought process).

3.When will the Ice Age get to the masses realizing “We’re having an Ice Age!” stage?

4. Will it be worldwide?
I read about how the Gulf Loop breakup will put Europe into an Ice Age but no mention of North America.

5. Have the C’s ever mentioned somewhere that will be less effected and/or will be safer to be during this “big chill” and turmoil?
I can see that a big city would be catastrophic, whereas a town of 1,600, not so bad. Or is North America just a write off?

Thanks, SilverJeep

 

[anart]

After reading the session (and all 11 pages of comments), I have a few questions that I didn’t see answered.

1. Did or have the C’s said when the riots/collapse would be start (or be obvious)?
I’ve heard several people (on different forums) say “It’s already begun!” but I’m not buying it. When you can still get all groceries you need, go out to dinner and see a movie, collapse has not begun.

No, they very rarely, if ever, point to specific dates.

2. Is the 5D city on a hill Washington DC?

Could be - we don't know.

Or the US as a whole?

Could be - we don't know.

What is 5D?

5D is the 'contemplation zone' - it's where we go when we die.

(…I know that’s 3 questions, but it’s all the same thought process).

3.When will the Ice Age get to the masses realizing “We’re having an Ice Age!” stage?

We don't know for sure. I would imagine that once it starts to snow and doesn't stop, it will get pretty obvious.

4. Will it be worldwide?
I read about how the Gulf Loop breakup will put Europe into an Ice Age but no mention of North America.

Historically, ice ages cover the northern hemisphere, so North America, everything North of Europe, and including large parts of Europe, if not most of it, would likely be affected. There are maps available of previous glaciation periods, to give you some idea of what we might be in for.

5. Have the C’s ever mentioned somewhere that will be less effected and/or will be safer to be during this “big chill” and turmoil?
I can see that a big city would be catastrophic, whereas a town of 1,600, not so bad. Or is North America just a write off?

I hate to sound like a broken record, but we don't know - we have to wait and see and use what we know of past glacial rebound periods to figure out where the highest impacts will likely be. Then, ultimately, we will find out for sure when it happens.

 

[Ennio]

Many thanks to Laura and all involved for the session and all their hard work. Timely to say the least!

I feel the conflict others have mentioned between over-cautious external considering and the desire to just let caution fly and start opening my mouth a lot more and biting my tongue a lot less. Always keep in mind your audience, but our audience's minds will be changing rapidly along with everything else. It's a tough one.

Along those lines, I was very disappointed to have missed the EE event in New York on Friday the 16th. I'm not sure if I'm on all the mailing lists and whatnot that I should be but it stings to just not have been paying enough attention and following all the different boards and finding out about it a day later. And to top it off, right before the time of the event I was at B&N buying the two of the "Big Five" psych books I didn't already have! (They had "Snakes in Suits" listed as in stock but nowhere to be found in the newly relocated business section. Fishy if you ask me.)

Here's a link to the updated list of EE classes be given in New York, meta-agnostic. You will always be able to find the updated schedule there :)
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=18331.0

 

[Galaxia2002]

[A: Remember we once told you that people would unite against the "invasion" at the time just before the earth changes?

Q: (L) Well, yeah. We were talking about the Nephalim and their stun guns and that sort of thing. But it looks like psychopaths are the new Nephalim, and they're already using stun guns - tasers. And then we asked if they were going to try to stage a fake alien invasion. All of this disclosure business is trying to point people in the direction of alien invasions, trying to get them prepared for some kind of fake alien invasion. Then you said yes, but a real invasion might take place first or earth changes would happen. Now, it's just been pressing on my mind, becoming more and more clear, that we don't NEED an alien invasion with psychopaths ruling this world as their transdimensional agents. And it has occurred to me that when you said that way back when, that basically the invasion has already occurred! It's here, now. It's psychopaths in power!

Everybody is looking and waiting for some kind of aliens; well, aliens are a supernatural phenomenon. Yeah, there is a certain physicality to it, but it strikes me that that physicality doesn't have... what do I want to say? Endurance? It doesn't "vibrate" right in our reality. It can come and go, but it doesn't stay here. So they need agents. They've always needed agents. They've always needed human-looking beings to control, to manipulate, or to even "download into" in a funny sort of way, like a possession or an activation. It's like they're sitting at some control console in some hyperdimensional place controlling their agents the way we control remote control toys.

I remember that aliens of "pure" 4th density are subjet to this limitations but not the bi-density 3/4th underground civilization that can handle better. It may be possible a collaboration of the" third eye" civilization with PTB in this fake, which would make more "real" and credible, but it doesn't seem so when I read this :

Q: (T) Are you saying that the human/Aryan types can exist as
long as they want in any density?
A: In 4th and 3rd.
Q: (L) They can move back and forth, existing with equal ease
on either density?
A: Well, not with "equal ease," because 4th density is
easier, naturally.
Q: (T) So, the information Courtney Brown was given to write
this quasi fiction book, is about the Aryans and not about
the Martians?
A: "Martians" is easier to understand for the less well-
informed, not to mention any discussion of the densities!
Q: (T) Absolutely. Martians are easier to accept. A lot
easier to understand than densities! (L) Okay, Third Eye.
What is this?
A: That is what they call themselves when pressed for an
explanation by surface types, such as yourselves. They
were the inspiration for Masonic lore and Illuminati, too.
Q: (L) Does this "Third Eye" designation have a connotation
of third eye abilities as we understand them?
A: Psychic.
Q: (T) Does Courtney know he has been had?
A: He has not been "had." He is under the employ of those who
pull the levers, so to speak.
Q: (L) You said "pull the levers." Is Courtney Brown a robot,
Greenbaumed, mind-controlled, implanted, or any or all of
the above? (T) Or is he just foolish?
A: No. Not so foolish, he does not worry aout paying the
power bill. As Forest Gump said: "Stupid is as stupid
does."
Q: (L) Are you implying that I am foolish or stupid because I
DO worry about paying the power bill?
A: No, we are not implying that you are stupid, or foolish,
for that matter... But, Courtney Brown is not either. Who
is he hurting? And, he has hit the jackpot with this one.
Knowledge can be procured by reading literature, then
analyzing it.
Q: (T) Is the time table that he has given correct?
A: Close.
Q: (T) So, the powers that be are going to follow this time
table and present the Aryans as Martians?
A: No.
Q: (L) Are the Aryans going to present themselves as
Martians?
A: Initially. In order for the Terrans to get used to the
idea of EBEs.
Q: (T) But, they are not the good guys. Beware of Greeks
bearing gifts.
A: Some of the "good guys" are identical in appearance.
Q: (T) Is this a subterfuge on the part of the Aryans so that
they can slide in quietly and take over?
A: No, they do not need that at all. It is a way for the
"government" to introduce everyone to the new reality of
the existence of intelligent life all over the place, not
just here.
Q: (T) So, they have their own agenda, but it is not what
Courtney presented in the book.
A: It does not matter. The book is a somewhat altered "New
Reality 101."

So If I understand well the PTB won't present "martians" but they would present to us by themself. On the other hand it's contradictory that it is a way for the "goverment" to introduce the new reality. It seems like PTB were different of "goverment". I think that I'm missing something.

 

[aragorn]

Hi Galaxia, I might have got it wrong but I think "government" in that excerpt means the theatrical power structure, the politicians, that the large public sees as the ones in power. And the PTB, even though very high in the hierarchy, have their own masters - the 4D Lords of Entropy.

 

[Breton]

Hi Galaxia, I might have got it wrong but I think "government" in that excerpt means the theatrical power structure, the politicians, that the large public sees as the ones in power. And the PTB, even though very high in the hierarchy, have their own masters - the 4D Lords of Entropy.

Hey, good one Aragorn: I think that is a very succinct way of explaining the difference between government and the real hidden powers.

 

[meta-agnostic]

Here's a link to the updated list of EE classes be given in New York, meta-agnostic. You will always be able to find the updated schedule there :)
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=18331.0

Thank you Ennio. This will help a lot.

 

[bjorb]

[quote author=bjorn]Next to that, it’s good to see that the days of the psychopath are coming to an end. But really have it to be like this? With deaths and violence? It’s just horrible.

[quote author=Endymion]Unfortunately, given the dumbed down, asleep and emotionally driven state of the masses, it is going to be like that. The Earth is opening up, and the only way to mitigate that is for humans to open up – release their emotional baggage – so that they are not controlled by their unconscious processes. And how to open up our beings? Ériú Eolas!!

As far as preventing the violence of the psychopaths goes, I don't know if that can be stopped. They have all the power, weapons and money, and they can unleash the very hounds of hell upon us if they choose.
[/quote][/quote]

I hoped that it wouldn't be like this, I hoped for an awareness big enough. That people would just stop being part of the system, since we are the ones who give them all the power. And then I hoped that people as seeing there leaders as they are, that they wouldn't give in to there anger and hatred towards those Psychopaths. Because as I see it. It are the Psychopaths who condemned there populations in a cycle of fear and hatred. (and that’s how they control everyone) - And to break that cycle. Well how about giving them community service for the rest of there lives. – instead of putting them to death or torturing them (Like almost everyone is always screaming)

Bringing hell upon them would be a sign that nothing has chanced, if there really would be a revolution. We should listen to what makes us different from them, our conscience.

At least that’s how I see it...

 

[meta-agnostic]

This is naïve-sounding to the extreme, but I don't see why it has to be so completely impossible to at least attempt to vote out the bad ones and find some decent human replacements in the next election. Well, 2010 is a little soon for the U.S., things probably couldn't really get moving until 2012. There was a time 10 years ago when I was young and naïve enough to attempt to do exactly that. The big part I didn't get was how asleep I still was, and how much more asleep the general population was. But if things are necessarily changing and the general populace will out of some necessity start to become aware, and hopefully we can be of help with many of them attaining an actual useful acute awareness of the pertinent issues, at least as far as the "government" is concerned, then I don't see why it's not worth a try.

I don't have any particular confidence that anything like this will take place, and it's all going to have to fall apart somehow sooner or later, but as long as it's still together then why not try and stabilize things before it falls apart? Maybe then it at least won't be as violent. Start giving Political Ponerology to people you trust and see what happens!

 

[bjorb]

[quote author=meta-agnostic ]This is naïve-sounding to the extreme[/quote]

It is, considering the current situation.

But if you really think about it, it’s the only way. If there exist no awareness about the REAL situation. And the riots/collapse is happening. And nobody or at least a significant amount of people knows the Truth, than how can there be any Right direction?
It’s the blind leading the blind. And again, if you would understand how Psychopaths control us, there methods. There cycle of Fear and Hatred they condemned us to. Should we really use there methods to bring a Revolution? That’s no chance. We wouldn’t be any different then they are.

You know the most dangerous aspect of a psychopath is they have what it takes to chance those who have a conscience. Ponerized as it is called. What they do, there influence on us, is that, we kill our own Soul.

And what can be more dangerous than that.

So again by using there Methods to bring justice. It’s a process of killing our own Soul.

 

[spyraal]

This is naïve-sounding to the extreme, but I don't see why it has to be so completely impossible to at least attempt to vote out the bad ones and find some decent human replacements in the next election.

Hello meta-agnostic,

I doubt if any real change can come through an "election", since if that was a real possibility, elections would somehow have been forbidden by the system and the PTB. Any "elections" under the current circumstances are but a facade of supposed democracy, since IMO no-one would ever be allowed to climb the political ladder to it's higher steps unless he/she is carefully selected beforehand for his/her loyalty to the hidden masters. For any other "fool" that would attempt to do so, there is media-controlled rιdicule, moral assassination and in the end if that doesn't work, physical assassination. I guess our collective work is harder than that, and together with awaking, we have also to be creative and attempt to create new structures that are not made for or infiltrated by psychopaths. It is hard to beat them in a game they have so carefully set up and control. Somehow, souled humans have to use their creative potential and think "outside the box" if they are to possibly overcome their system in a peaceful way, as the short-sightedness and wishful thinking of psychopaths is their main trait and weak spot. Unfortunately, i wouldn't bet on that either. The collective choices and ignorance of humanity has built a huge momentum that is hard to resist. I really wish to be wrong, but this is what i think judging from the available signs. Maybe for now we ought to try and save what can be saved, until the lies we were fed for so long will be seen for what they are. Who knows?

Thank you Laura and the team for this session.
:)

 

[Bluestar]

Thank you all so much for the work you do for us. The work load at the chateau must be huge with getting ready for the FOTCM meeting. Truly appreciate all the work you do.

It was a most intriguing session. At first I felt a moment of despair, though I did not let it go to far. Thought about what will my family do in such a situation. Food, water is essential, but what about protecting ourselves? Living in the USA and at the moment probably not going anywhere, makes me on guard. I believe this is a good place to be, aware of my surroundings and paying attention, not only to the C's forwarnings, and to the news and such, but to those around me as well. Anyone, at anytime can intrude into your destiny regardless of upheaval or not. Always be vigilant.

All of a sudden I "feel" compelled to drop some of my strategic enclose and start saying what I really think during my discussions with people. Not forcing my will, not preaching, just stating my view on a given situation. And if they wanna talk, we'll talk. If not, so be it. They have been warned. This is how I "feel" right now.
Is this "wrong"?

Had the same feelings while on vacation these past three weeks. Was at a festival with people that walked alternative spiritual paths. For the first time I saw how asleep most of these folks were. They do not think that their path was the best to follow for everyone, nor do they preach any form of salvation to "nonbelievers", but they believe that because they follow a "pagan spiritual lifestyle" that they are on a righteous path to enlightenment. Using what they believe to be traditions set forth by the ancestors, to worship whatever god or goddess they presently pay homage to, they elude and engulf themselves in half truths and illusions. I am not trying to disrespect them in any way. I honor the paths that they choose to follow, yet I can see how blind they are to many things.

When I was afforded a conversation with anyone, I did talk about diet and exercise, about prayer and meditation. Explained about the vagus nerve and how it reduces stress. Posted flyer's for EE. Mentioned the EE web site to some. I found it hard to get anyone to take it seriously. They are so wrapped up in their spiritual path that they could not hear what I was saying. Some even would negate eating a healthy diet. They enjoyed food and was not gonna give up what gave them joy. Found some of my friends were eating a better diet, but could not get a handle on the wheat/gluten, dairy and sugar free diet. Using as much strategic enclosure and consideration as I could, did not want to rock their worlds. Blank stares and "oh, I gotta go" statements were happening, so I choose my words very carefully and trusted that maybe a seed was planted.


Some of my good friends, now there were almost 1200 people at this fest. and I knew about 50 or so, did hear some of what I had to say. Told them about my new favorite word, "psychpaths" and what they were. Much to my surprise, they knew of the concept and knew who was running our world. Spoke to a few about the big five books I have recently read and political ponerology. There was much agreement with these folks. Also made a mention that we were not at the top of the food chain and asked who do you want to feed? Got only smiles with that one.

So, by being very cautious with my words and timing, I think maybe some will check out the web site. It is so important if you want to get a message out to someone that you adjust your method of disclosure to a persons level of understanding. The "see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil" program kicks in. I call it ostrich medicine. Stick your head in the ground and they can't see me and will go away syndrome. Be gentle with our brothers and sisters who are waking up. We do not want to put them to sleep again with fear.

 

[dannybananny]

It may be possible a collaboration of the" third eye" civilization with PTB in this fake, which would make more "real" and credible, but it doesn't seem so when I read this :

I don't think they hang around much, I know from what i read that only reptilians and greys have mutual contacts in underground bases with elite, and this is only limited to mutual interest like mind control, they don't want to give them some technology that can be used against them because this is STS world - you never know when you can be stabbed in the back. It's interesting to read admiral Byrds story about he's meeting with race Aryani and all that desinfo they told him how they came after the atomic bomb exploded, how they are concerned about us and in meantime they almost destroyed his fleet and that is real benevolence in action. This message to secret goverment sounded to me: don't forget who is the boss!

So If I understand well the PTB won't present "martians" but they would present to us by themself. On the other hand it's contradictory that it is a way for the "goverment" to introduce the new reality. It seems like PTB were different of "goverment". I think that I'm missing something.

I think when C's used "government" they meant that it isn't real government(they meant public government) and the real is Consortium(that is formed of terrans and extraterrest., and the public government is a tool they control to make people think they are free) and it isn't contradictory if elite is in contact with their masters and knows the time line and plan. Aragorn explained it well.

That people would just stop being part of the system, since we are the ones who give them all the power. And then I hoped that people as seeing there leaders as they are, that they wouldn't give in to there anger and hatred towards those Psychopaths. Because as I see it. It are the Psychopaths who condemned there populations in a cycle of fear and hatred. (and that’s how they control everyone) - And to break that cycle. Well how about giving them community service for the rest of there lives. – instead of putting them to death or torturing them (Like almost everyone is always screaming)

If they choose that they don't want to be part of the system who guarantees that they won't be attacked by force from PTB if we assume that probably whole army and police won't and better say can't see the situation if they are mostly OP's? I agree with you that this is what makes us different from them but you can't expect from population that is conditioned for thousands of years to use force to accomplish their goals is going to be enlightened in instant, it isn't that white, it's gray, there are lot's of people with different lessons to learn and different paths to go. They probably won't even know that they are revolting against psychopaths but against elite and wealthy ones, like a new Bolshevik revolution and we know how that ended. Without knowledge of psychopaths and good will revolution will be used for other pathological people to replace existing ones.(But i'am hoping that there would be people that might somehow get info about psychopathy). I'am just wondering when C's said that the people would be united prior to "invasion", I'am assuming they meant invasion by psychopaths because Laura then mentioned it but the question is did they meant that people will unite against invasion of STS forces, or they would unite by deception in totalitarian state?

 

[bjorb]

[quote author=dannybananny]that this is what makes us different from them but you can't expect from population that is conditioned for thousands of years to use force to accomplish their goals is going to be enlightened in instant.
[/quote]

Nothing can happen in an instant, there is always a process between that. I know. But this situation I think isn’t something which can be compared to those of thousands of years ago. At least now, knowledge is available which explains our situation. And it’s available worldwide and can be looked up in an instant. It’s only problem is awareness. And my impression is that with Armageddon just around the corner, it may be already to late for that. Time is up. And I don’t say that with ease.

The thing is:

It’s the blind leading the blind, like you said, if people do not realize the existence of psychopaths. Nothing real will chance.