Session 23 August 2025

[Voyageur]

(Joe) What was the cause of the 1561 and 1566 celestial phenomena over Nuremberg and Basel respectively?

Q: (L) Was this STS vs STO forces?

A: No. STS vs STS.

Q: (L) So they fight amongst themselves?

A: Yes!

Great questions and answers, while that particular image had also made me wonder. There are likely may more in time - and perhaps again yet to come.

The dates above circles around "Gessner’s Plague: The Bubonic Plague Epidemic of 1562–1566"

Otto Ulbricht has commented: “In the work of historians, the plagues of the early modern period often disappear completely behind the Black Death of the Late Middle Ages.”The plague cycle of the 1560s, which reached its deadly apogee from 1563–64, was likely the deadliest epidemic of the century, dubbed the “great plague” in its time in some regions, though it is hardly on the radar of historical consciousness.

Going back to "Q: (L) So they fight amongst themselves?" In 3d terms, O boy, it seems many are eating each other up, and its horrible and yet there is not much one can do as society enters this phase, a new phase that seems to have been hyper-accelerated from what it was even 10-years ago.

Thank you all for holding and scribing the session, and all the further questions and resulting discussions in the many past pages of replies.

 

[luc]

The C’s said in response to Musicinventor’s question about emotions that it might help to follow a different artistic direction.

My instant and gut response to this exchange was the idea that Musicinventor’s music is progressive and complex, with unconventional time signatures and tonal modulations. But when irjO asked about types of music that might be beneficial for creating a relaxed state, the C’s said “pentatonic scale”, which for a composer of music might be regarded as the simplest of pallets to paint from.

So I just thought that maybe Musicinventor should consider the idea that simplifying his works and focusing more on the deep feelings that can be accessed through the simple relationship between two intervals - themselves taken from a simplified scale - might be the way to go.

I’m sure Musicinventor will understand if I reference the progression in the history of jazz, where bebop - which was extremely complicated and difficult to play, the reason for which has been explained in terms of wanting jazz as an art form and the musicians who played it, to gain respect and kudos from the more traditional musical establishment - lead to Miles Davis exploring the impact that a single note can make on a listener, culminating in the pieces he arranged for the “Kind of Blue” sessions, which were the antithesis of bebop.

Maybe this isn’t at all in line with what takes Musicinventor’s breath away, but I just wanted to share that idea, anyway.

I second this - nothing wrong with exploring more complex styles of music, but I understood the Cs' comments similarly, namely that it might be beneficial for Musicinventor to try going in a different direction, more like "simple beauty". The comment about Miles Davis seems appropriate too - there is still a lot of tension in Kind of Blue, but there's more resolution, and the tension/resolution rhythm "breathes" more freely, as opposed to "taking your breath away" which some of the more complex and borderline atonal forms of music can do, and not in the positive meaning of the term.