Session 23 August 2025

[Pearce]

@Musicinventor
Respectfully, to add to what T.C. is saying,

Radical left liberals use much the same language when propounding their ideologies.

One of the other teachers at a music academy I taught at was doing his PhD. This was around 2015.

He once sent me his website and I had a look. One of his ‘musical’ pieces was some black and white photographs of him, holding his hand in different ways. These hand positions and the differences between them were somehow supposed to be suggestive of a progression of relationships, and I suppose, in this way, somehow had something to do with music.

As soon as I saw this work of his, I instantly recognised the post-modern, critical, deconstructionist clown show that his university education and the pursuit of his doctorate had brainwashed him into. He went to uni to learn more about music. He came out a mime artist; and that’s an insult to mime artists.

I’d second Approaching Infinity’s advice about looking at this from a Gurdjieffian perspective. What do you think Gurdjieff would make of a western university musical syllabus?

How were you musically as a child before you went into higher musical education?

I think it’s highly probable that the below is a genuine musical performance by Gurdjieff. How much intellectual analysis do you think he intends us to be doing while listening to it?

..when describing yourself and your relation to music, you come across as rigid, full of ego, and with this identity built around your ownership to your writing style of music. As a musician myself, music is not something to own, nor do we at this level truly write anything, but are inspired and in effect channel that inspiration into form.

Ultimately if our pursuit is STO, that form should aim to truly move another soul, to speak to them a language that words cannot reach. You writing solely for yourself is the opposite, and it seems like having this music prodigy identity, all you are really doing is scrambling the divine signal, while calling it non-understandable art.

Are you afraid to write for others, to try to truly reach them, because you have been misunderstood and possibly rejected before? If your cancer is lung-related, well the breath is the basis of our ability to communicate with words, so perhaps there is something so painful that you need to communicate, that by not doing so it is killing you.

And perhaps you do understand music theory at a much deeper and intricate level than most people, I'm not attempting to take that away from you. But even Einstein lived and died like the rest of us. A humble approach goes the distance.

I wish you and Mrs. Peel all the best.

 

[Darek]

Thank you for another great session Hang in there Mrs. Peel and Musicinventor

 

[Mrs. Peel]

I wish you and Mrs. Peel all the best.

I don't want to keep hijacking this thread which is supposed to be a discussion of the entire last session, but here's my 2 cents from somebody who's known him for almost 30 years.

It should be noted that I do not compose for others. I compose for myself first and whoever might be interested in listening. I’m not trying to change the musical world nor am I in search of a fan base. When I do compose it has become apparent to me that often times it comes through me not from me. Regarding complexity; my music is is no more complicated than Bach, Beethoven, Yes, Gentle Giant, or Stravinsky. On my website there are multiple examples of less complex music. Complexity for some is not complexity for others. During my 42 years as a professional musician/instructor it became glaringly obvious that people enjoy music that they are familiar with. Anything new to them is most often brushed off as "not right". Unfortunately music is a language that the majority of the population does not understand.

"Not composing for others" means nobody is commissioning him to write anything in a certain style, so he writes in his own style, and hopes maybe somebody will find his work and enjoy it. Stating his education and knowledge is part of why he doesn't find some genres musically interesting. It's true that most (not all) people do not understand music. I've called his music "disjointed" (he used "not right") and it's partly because I don't understand how its been put together and it doesn't sound like the other stuff I like. I can't read music, and watching him compose and explain the mathematical relationships between notes and chords makes my eyes glaze over. I enjoy music I am familiar with, like a lot of other people out there.

Someone posted "Gurdjieff's 82 Rules for Life" somewhere at one point, and he has used No. 68 to help him get through so far, which is what he mentioned in the session.

"No. 68. When you become ill, regard your illness as your teacher, not as something to be hated."

When the C's said "what takes your breath away" both of us immediately thought of something "good." I thought of the song by the group Berlin ("Take My Breath Away"). In retrospect, they were probably referring to it in regard to the lung cancer as what inhibits your breathing.

I can't control how Musicinventor "comes across," he often reminds me of Sheldon Cooper from the Big Bang Theory. That's it.

 

[Pearce]

I don't want to keep hijacking this thread which is supposed to be a discussion of the entire last session, but here's my 2 cents from somebody who's known him for almost 30 years.


"Not composing for others" means nobody is commissioning him to write anything in a certain style, so he writes in his own style, and hopes maybe somebody will find his work and enjoy it. Stating his education and knowledge is part of why he doesn't find some genres musically interesting. It's true that most (not all) people do not understand music. I've called his music "disjointed" (he used "not right") and it's partly because I don't understand how its been put together and it doesn't sound like the other stuff I like. I can't read music, and watching him compose and explain the mathematical relationships between notes and chords makes my eyes glaze over. I enjoy music I am familiar with, like a lot of other people out there.

Someone posted "Gurdjieff's 82 Rules for Life" somewhere at one point, and he has used No. 68 to help him get through so far, which is what he mentioned in the session.

"No. 68. When you become ill, regard your illness as your teacher, not as something to be hated."

When the C's said "what takes your breath away" both of us immediately thought of something "good." I thought of the song by the group Berlin ("Take My Breath Away"). In retrospect, they were probably referring to it in regard to the lung cancer as what inhibits your breathing.

I can't control how Musicinventor "comes across," he often reminds me of Sheldon Cooper from the Big Bang Theory. That's it.

I do see where he states the music comes through him, not from him, now. My apologies for missing that!

And I also thought of something good when they asked because "taking your breath away" as far as I have ever heard the phrase, implies something beautifully unexpected that it catches you so vulnerable so that you have to catch your breath. Though I suppose it could be something negative that makes one hold their breath and tense up.

 

[seek10]

(Navigator) Candace Owens keeps digging the story of Brigitte Macron, and recently her investigation suggests that Jean-Michel could have participated in some way in the Stanford prison experiment. Was this true?

A: Lookalike.

Candace has new video with more details about Stanford prison experiment and possible connection to French first "man". As she pulls the threads/connections, she finds weird connections to NASA, military, fake people posing as poor (instead they are from rich Rothschild connections) participants, drama like experiment footage, unrelated people writing books and making documentary and so on. She narrows down to one subject "prisoner number 2093" as the mysterious. she wonders every thing is like a drama like setup.

I’M BACK! And STILL Asking Questions (Sorry Brigitte). | Candace Ep 233 - Candace Owens

candaceowens.com

But C's say 'Lookalike'. Who is doing all this drama and what for? Even C's were hesitant about revealing about Brigette. After all this expose, Matrix still consider them useful? We don't know what that coming program change means and their role in it.

Q: (Chu) It says here that A Jay has some questions about Nick Fuentes. Were they on the list?

(Joe) No. Get him on the screen if he wants to ask them.

(L) And ask the most important one, because I'm getting tired.

(Joe) Ask one.

(A Jay) Well, there were a few questions. The first one was, if any, what personality or character disorder does Nick Fuentes have?

A: Slightly paranoid schizophrenia.

Q: (L) But it is very mild? He functions pretty well?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) That doesn't mean he's wrong about the Jews. [laughter]

(L) Yeah. That doesn't mean he's wrong. Being paranoid just means you can see things. Is that it?

A: Yes

Q: (L) I think we've established that... [laughter]

(Andromeda) Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean somebody's not out to get you! [laughter]

(L) Yeah.

(A Jay) Is he a federal agent?

A: No

Q: (L) So, what is the deal between him and Candace, and him and Tucker?

A: Induced antagonism exacerbated by Nick's paranoia.

Q: (L) Induced... Induced by who or what?

A: Beaming triangulation by deep state operatives.

Q: (L) So he is not paranoid enough, huh? [laughter]

A: Yes

Q: (L) Sorry, I just had to do that.

(Andromeda) Paranoid in the wrong direction.

(L) Yeah, paranoid about the wrong things.

(Niall) And is that motivated by fears that those three together could really coalesce opposition to the Zionists, Israel, et cetera?

A: Yes!

Q: (Niall) Bingo.

(L) All right. So it's in their best interest to keep them at each other's throats, and everybody else. I mean, that's the playbook. That's everything, everybody... And if you think you can't be zapped and turned antagonistic towards even your family, your loved ones, your best friends, your group, whatever, just think again. I mean, without knowing that it can happen, without truly knowing it, you are absolutely vulnerable to it.

A: Yes

I posted this part of the session (changing forum names) in one of her you tube video comments. At least their admin's might have read it.

 

[mantle]

Again this one is a most interesting session . It leaves me with much to ponder and I thank all who contributed . Much appreciated.