Session Date: November 23rd 2024
Laura and Andromeda at the board
Niall, Joe, Gaby, Ark, PoB, Chu, Scottie, Princess Leia, Bella, Falkor, The Lunar Module
FOTCM Members attending via Zoom:
3DStudent, A Jay, Adobe US, Aeneas, aimarok, Alana, Alejo, Aliana, Altair, Anamarija, anartist, Ant22, Anthony, Approaching Infinity, Aragorn , Arwenn, Bluefyre, Bobo08, Breton, Carl, ClaudiaYG, Cleo, Cosmos, Deliverance, dugdeep, Eboard10, Ellipse, Ennio, fabric, finduilas495, France, Glenn, Gottathink, goyacobol, Harmony99, Herondancer, Hesper, Hesperides, hlat&his wife, iamthatis, irjO, Iscreamsandwish, Jacques, JeanneT, JEEP, Jefferson , Jenn, Josi, Juba, Keyhole, KJN, Laurentien2, Laurs, Lilou, loreta, LQB, luc, Luis Miguel, Maat, maiko, Manitoban, marek760, Mark, Mark7, Michal, Mike, Mikkael, Mililea, Miracle, mkrnhr, Mrs. Peel, Natus Videre, Navigator, new_to_chess, Nicholas, Nienna, Obi, Ollie, OrangeScorpion, Oxajil, Pecha, Pophistorian, Puma, Redrock12, Regulattor, Ryan, Ryu, Saman, seek10, seeker2seer, Steph Rivers, Stoneboss, sToRmR1dR, Summerlite, T.C., Thorbjorn, Timotheos, Tristan, voyageur, vulcan59, whitecoast, Windmill knight, Yas, Ysus, Zim
Q: (L) All right. I guess we'll get started. [Long wait for movement of disc.]
A: Good evening all! Pronoiaea of Cassiopaea here with you tonight. And no, Laura, we are not mad at you.
Q: (L) Well, I was sitting there so long I thought to myself, "Are they mad at me? What did I do?" [laughter] All right.
(Andromeda) We should say the date.
(L) It is the 23rd of November, 2025. 24. [laughter] What the hell do I know?! And we have the usual suspects. Yeah. Saturday. [Review of those present] Alright, then... Obviously I am away with the fairies.
(Andromeda) Me too.
(L) So we've got some questions here and I've got some questions too, so I'll get y'alls out of the way first and then I'll try to get mine in. Carl asked:
(Carl) How many real living US citizens cast a legitimate vote for Donald Trump in the recent election, to the nearest million?
(Joe) Real citizens?
(L) Real citizens that are registered to vote.
A: Close to 100.
Q: (L) Close to 100 million?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And for Kamala?
A: Less than 23
Q: (Joe) So 75% for Trump.
(Andromeda) That's what I guessed.
(Chu) That's what we always said.
(L) So they not only stole votes from Trump, they added votes to Kamala and added extra votes to Kamala...
(Joe) There's the illegals...
(L) Plus illegal votes. Is that pretty much the picture?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Okay. So Ellipse says:
(Ellipse) Now that Trump is elected, the powers that be will certainly prepare something to pull the rug out from under him. Is there something in this regard we need to be aware of other than current general discussions on the forum and Twitter?
A: Most possibilities are well covered.
[Doggies are playing around the table and getting too rambunctious]
(L) All right. If you kids can't settle down, you're going to go in the kitchen. Now, settle down. Bella!
[Doggies lay down :) ]
Q: (L) All right. Okay, PopHistorian:
(PopHistorian) Aside from Trump's survival of the assassination attempt, were any other decisions made by the quorum that did have an important effect upon the balance on earth? Can you give us any clues?
A: We cannot reveal the decisions of the council in any detail other than to say that the suffering that leads to knowledge might be ameliorated somewhat.
Q: (L) Hmm... Well, I can't think of a follow up for that. Can anybody else?
(Joe) Why would it be ameliorated?
A: More are awakening.
Q: (Joe) This is the so-called 'quorum' we're talking about, right?
(Chu) Yeah.
(L) Do they like... I mean, since the quorum represents both sides - as I understand it - so they bargain and make negotiations and so forth for...? Kind of like when the Bible described God calling on the sons of God, the angels, to come to some council and Satan came forward and was accusing Job and so forth. I mean, is that story kind of reflective of the kind of things that can happen?
A: Close.
Q: (Joe) Is there a group that oversees the quorum in a sense that controls them or advises them?
A: 6th density.
Q: (L) And are sixth density, like what you said at one time or hinted or suggested, like angels or archangels in old parlance?
A: Yes.
Q: (Joe) It's them, right?
(L) Yeah.
(Joe) So they're in cahoots with the quorum. [laughter]
(L) Okay, so basically we're talking to the Archangel Michael. How about that? [laughter]
A: Not exactly.
Q: (L) Well, close enough.
(Chu) There's a follow up on the chat. I don't know if you want it.
(L) Okay.
(Alejo) Does that mean that the resistance they were after was somewhat already accomplished?
(L) The resistance, who was after? 'They' who?
(Joe) The resistance that the quorum wanted. In the last session, they said that there was going to be a program change and that it turned out it was going to be the assassination of Trump and that program change needed to happen. This needed to happen because there wasn't enough resistance from the people to achieve balance.
(L) In other words, did it galvanize people?
A: Close.
Q: (Joe) So can resistance mean...
(L) Like resistance to a disease?
(Joe) Well, yeah, in a certain sense. We think of resistance as people on the streets shouting, "Down with this sort of thing!"
(L) Down with your side, down with my side.
(Joe) Is resistance also even more so like you said, awake people being aware, and resistance like an internal resistance?
A: The imbalance was so severe that the STS side risked a severe violation of free will at a level that would have resulted in necessary degaussing from natural factors of balance.
Q: (L) So they were too dirty and devious.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) They did too much for too long and they really violated the free will of the people on this planet.
A: Yes.
Q: (Chu) There's more questions...
(Aeneas) 6D STO sees all. Did they therefore also see this change by the quorum?
(L) Well, I don't think that they see everything in advance. I mean, they said the universe is open. Are you assuming that everything is planned in advance? I mean, is that your assumption?
(Joe) You can imagine how complicated it probably would be in terms of all the permutations of any given action and knock-on effects and stuff. It's probably, yeah, it's very difficult to figure it out, but you need somebody with a big brain to see all the possible results.
(L) Yeah, it probably took some kind of council confab at those higher levels where they're so much smarter than us that we can't even imagine it.
(Joe) They're all playing 6D chess.
(L) Okay, next question from the chat:
(T.C.) So before the program changed, people were going to have to suffer more in order to gain some necessary knowledge, but the program change will or has revealed things to people, which means they won't need to suffer as much to gain said knowledge?
A: Yes.
Q: (T.C.) I wonder why that was done.
(L) Well, I think they just answered that when they were talking about the imbalance. Okay, moving on:
(Ennio) Tucker recently stated in an interview that he woke up one night over a year ago in pain to find claw marks on his ribs and shoulder. Whatever happened, his wife and four dogs, all light sleepers, slept through the attack or event that caused the injuries. The alleged attack, whatever it was, seemed to have a deep enough effect on him that he started reading scripture. We also know that Tucker made some interesting statements in some interviews over the past year to the effect that he believes there is a spiritual battle occurring and that there is an alien reality. So the question here is just what happened to him that night?
(L) Now, Ennio, you read The Wave, right? Where are you? Where is Ennio?
(Ennio) Yes.
(L) And you read about the gal who was interacting with the reptoid types and had scratches and you saw the picture and you've read, I'm sure, quite a few books about abductions and interactions with ultraterrestrial critters, et cetera, haven't you?
(Ennio) Of course.
(L) Then why did you ask that question?
(Ennio) Because I don't think we've heard of such a recent account for someone so prominent and someone with such influence as Tucker, and it had such a profound effect on him that, and he has such great influence...
(L) Do you think it is going to be any different for him than it is for anybody else? You think that because he was famous, well known and had a big audience, that he would be excluded from being subjected to such attacks?
(Joe) Well, what would be the...
(Ennio) He's very courageous for having come out to say something so outside of the box, I think. So that's one piece of it. And the other piece of it, given how many times I've been incorrect in assuming that certain events mean certain things, even though this looks like it's probably what it looks like... There was that question about the French intellectual Bernard Henry Levy and how he had the stigmata. And I thought, well, let's just ask just to be clear on what happened with Tucker on the off chance that maybe it wasn't in fact what it looked like, even though I think with great probability it is exactly what it looked like.
(Joe) Can we ask a more pertinent question as to why it happened and what the point of it was?
(L) Well, why does it happen to anybody?
(Niall) It happens to anybody, but this is Tucker Carlson. Next to Trump!
(L) Yeah but why would he be different?
(Joe) Well, it doesn't happen to a lot of people.
(Chu) Well, it's different in the sense that he can make it known to more people. He can talk about it.
(Niall) He can start reading scripture, start telling the American people that the CIA killed Kennedy, get fired from Fox. That's what happened in sequence. This had an effect on him and he went ballistic.
(Joe) Not a lot of people wake up with that. If it's what we assume it is, not a lot of people wake up after having been scratched by a reptoid...
(L) Alright, so Joe thinks the question is: Why?
(Joe) Or was there a specific purpose to it or was it just attack...?
A: It was hoped by wishfully thinking STS entities that Tucker would be frightened off.
Q: (L) Anything else?
A: Also that he might think that his experience was secret gov generated.
Q: (L) So they were thinking that they would do this and that he might think that the secret government had some kind of weird powers and program and that they would scare him off. Okay. But the result was that he took it in a very different way.
(Joe) He went fundie. He went biblical.
(L) Yeah, he went biblical.
(Niall) He started saying, "I think evil is real, it's all around us, it's supernatural." He started saying it on a podcast, then he started saying it to the American people on Fox. And then soon after he was fired, and here he is today! He finally actually talked about the incident, but he was talking metaphorically about it for 18 months.
(L) Yeah. So basically that was something that kind of backfired on him, even though talking about it in a biblical way is sometimes not very helpful. It still is better than assuming that everything is all materialistic phenomena.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Any follow up?
(Chu) Nope.
(L) Okay, T.C. says:
(T.C.) I guess biblical is his closest/best frame of reference.
(L) Yeah, that's true for a lot of people. That's because they haven't read High Strangeness! Okay. All right. fabric and dugdeep have a question here, but I think we need some more details. They're saying they saw a light object on October 13th while viewing the comet, so I'd like to hear from them what they saw.
(fabric) Yes. So sorry, I was looking for the new unmute button. Yeah, so we were looking at the sky for the comet back on October 13th, and while we were staring in the empty space to the sky, low in the horizon, what looked like a bright ball of light appeared just for a brief second of maybe four or five orders of magnitude brighter than Venus in the sky at the time. And I thought I imagined it, but dugdeep also saw it briefly, except he perceived it slightly different from what I saw. And we weren't sure what it was. And I don't think it was a plane. It was nothing that I've ever recognized seeing in the sky. And we were just wondering what exactly that was?
(L) So it was just above the horizon?
(fabric) Yeah.
(L) And it was like a bright flash?
(fabric) Yeah. It wasn't so much as a flash. It's like it was shining like a star and it kind of just appeared for about a second and then it was gone. Just directly front us where we were looking, there was nothing else around at the time. It didn't move.
(L) Okay. What were they seeing on this event? And they each saw it slightly differently. Okay, what were they seeing?
A: Brief intrusion of hyperdimensional craft on mission.
Q: (L) You mean a brief intrusion into our reality?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Was it on a mission in our reality?
A: No.
Q: (Andromeda) Did it have anything to do with the comet that was in the sky that night?
A: No.
Q: (Joe) Was it a thinning of the veil?
A: Yes.
Q: (Joe) And was it because they are all so enlightened that the power of the eyes caused the veil to thin? No, I'm just kidding.
A: Close.
Q: [laughter]
(Niall) Who's more enlightened? dugdeep or fabric? [laughter]
(Joe) So if we want to thin the veil, we need to get either dugdeep or fabric or both to just stare at the sky? Well, keep that handy then.
(L) All right, Ze Germans:
(Ze Germans) Did the dome of protection over Caesarea protect it from being flooded during Hurricane Helene?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) It was close!
(Niall) Yes, it was.
(L) And now S*** wants to know:
(S***) Is J***’s transition going well?
A: Yes.
Q: (S***) Is there anything I need to do for his peace?
A: Don't grieve so much. He is held back and saddened by your tears.
Q: (L) S***, you there?
(S***) Yeah, I'm here. Thank you.
(L) You all right, baby?
(S***) Thank you. Yes.
(L) You're going to be okay?
(S***) [unclear]
(L) Yeah, it's hard. But really please, the worst part about losing someone is that we are left and that we are now living in a world without them, without them physically present where we can touch them and talk to them. That's the worst part of it.
(S***) Yes. But I don't want to hurt him. That's most important.
(L) For him, he is in a much better state or place that we can only access partially and imperfectly. And I mean, it's really facile and easy to say these things, but time will make it better. It won't make it go away, but it makes it hurt less.
(S***) Thank you so much, Laura.
(L) You just need some time, baby. Just some time. Okay. And there's a note here for any question about istina. Did somebody have one about her?
(Chu) No. You just mentioned it on her thread that you were thinking of asking about her circumstances.
(L) Oh yeah... I've been thinking about that... Her circumstances where she had to live, she had to hide who and what she was from her husband and her children. And she was basically alone. And even though she had a husband and children. And I wondered, did that contribute to her illness?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) If she had been able to assert herself in some way, would she have been able to get well?
A: Possibly.
Q: (L) And that leads to another question that I had that came up in my mind over the last couple of weeks. As everybody knows, we've had a difficult time dealing with the loss of Pierre. It's been over a year, and we still haven't touched anything in his room. It's his room. Nobody wants to mess with his stuff. And I almost feel like he's still in his room. Question is, does Pierre spend a lot of time in the house here?
A: Fair amount.
Q: (L) So in a sense he's still partly with us?
A: Yes. Same for J*** and S***.
Q: (L) Okay. So he's there with you a lot. Okay. The other thing is, now I thought a lot about this because we've had two people that have been close to us that died from brain tumors. Only two, I think... Henry and Pierre. And both of them had really serious mother issues. And that's something that struck me when I was thinking about it. They both had very serious mother issues. And I wondered why the mother issues... I mean, is there a relationship between mother issues and their brain tumors?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is that always the case?
A: No.
Q: (L) But in these two cases, that was the case. That's what I noticed. I'm sure that other people who have brain tumors, if you examine their lives, you'd notice something else or different things. So, what is the deal there? Is there some similarity between the two of them?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And what was it?
A: They both turned their anger at their mothers on themselves since it was too frightening to be angry at the mother.
Q: (L) But I thought Pierre at least had dealt with that and had identified things?
A: Not at the primal level.
Q: (L) So they were like little children inside that were really, really angry at the mother and afraid to express that anger in a fully embodied way for fear of being, what? Cast out of the mother's love? Is that it?
A: Close. Fear of annihilation.
Q: (L) So the infant fears that if the parents don't respond positively to you that you will die. Is what was driving both of them?
A: Close.
Q: (L) And so they turned this anger on themselves and basically ate themselves up inside, in a sense?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) All right. Anybody got any follow up?
(Joe) What's the lesson for someone with that issue? What's the primary lesson they learned from having that kind of experience in life?
A: You are souls first. The genetic body can be overwhelmed by early emotional, mental, and/or physical abuse. It is very difficult to reach those levels of the subconscious mind.
Q: (L) So if you can free up or release yourself from that programming, then your soul can fully manifest. Is that it?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) But without freeing up, without releasing yourself from the control or the chains of that kind of programming, you really can't... I dunno how to say it. You can't manifest something that can seriously change the outcome of sickness or something.
(Andromeda) It may be very difficult. I think what they're talking about is early imprinting.
(L) Early imprinting.
(Andromeda) It's very difficult to change.
(L) All right... Now Ark has received an email from a A... K... who has a PhD in cognitive psychoneurology and a PhD in metaphysical sciences. Neither of which sound - I mean, did you get anything about where he received his education?
(Ark) No. I dunno.
(L) And he has a website called Eidetic Sentience Ontology Platform. You all can write that down because you might want to go check it out or we'll put a link on the forum or something. And he has on there also some other people who are associated with him, one of which is Dr. R.N. Boyd PhD, who is his scientific advisor who is from Princeton Bio Technologies. And this other thing was he's got also on there, and this is the interesting part, Jane Tripp, I don't know if anybody's heard of her. She's from Canada, experimental transdimensional expert and physical photographic medium. And she has two or three free books that you can download and look at. And what she does, apparently she says she's a physical medium and that she does produce ectoplasm and she also produces photographs. There were some experiments some years back, and I think I talked about it in The Wave of where there were some people who were leaving recording devices in a place where there were stones. And the next day they would come and they would find that there were voices recorded. And they kind of figured out that this was because the recordings were in the stones and the recording devices were recording, picking up, picking up on the replays of those recordings from the stones. Audio.
(Joe) Audio?
(L) Audio. Those were audio recordings. And this was, I'm trying to remember where I read about it, but I think, yeah, I read about it in this set of books. I have Mysteries of Mind, Space and Time. And then it kind of clicked in my mind with the work of Lethbridge who was talking about hauntings and feelings and spirits of places and so forth being recordings in the atmosphere or in the underlying... the substrate of rocks and so forth that gave off electromagnetic fields or something so that these things were recording events and then they would playback over and over again. And that was an explanation for why some hauntings were so mechanical and why you would see marching Roman soldiers marching cut off at the waist because their feet were still on the road at the level where the Roman road was, which was now covered with several feet of soil that the recording played back exactly as it was. And the soil had been added since then. So they were still marching on the old buried Roman road. So I had made those connections that a lot of things that happen are just like recordings. Well anyhow, this woman is saying that you can get photographs from stones, also, and that she somehow, and maybe I read it and I didn't catch it or she didn't describe it exactly, but somehow she interacts with stones or buildings or whatever in such a way that she is able to produce photographs from thousands of years ago. The stones apparently are playing back these images.
(Andromeda) Does she draw them?
(L) She produces photographs.
(Joe) With a camera?
(L) With film. And I didn't get exactly all the details, but anyhow, on this website, she's got one article in particular, and it's the one that caught my eye that was supposed to be photographs that she made at Pompeii that apparently she was able to produce these photographs of things that were happening at various places at the time of the eruption of Vesuvius. And I mean, they're not absolutely clear. They're more like what you would expect kind of ghostly photographs to be. But it was fascinating. And if it's true, I think it's pretty cool. I mean, hey, I got a list of places I'd like to send her anyhow. So let me ask, is this woman, Jane Tripp able to produce photographs of ancient times by picking up the electromagnetically recorded images from stones or buildings or whatever? Is she really able to do that? Is that happening?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Okay. So the other thing she talks about is using photographs. And this might be interesting for a lot of you who are into photography, she's got a whole theory about photographs that you can look at photographs and find out all kinds of interesting things. I'm not going to go into details. You all have to go and look at her stuff, but it's really interesting. But one of the things she talks about is about time travelers who appear in old photographs. They're like a hundred years old. She's got one photograph where it looks like a woman is holding either some kind of TV remote or an older cell phone or something. And another one where she's analyzed a picture and she says that this is a time traveler, that's a time traveler, so on and so forth. So, is she in fact detecting in photographs time Travelers?
A: Often, yes.
Q: (L) All right. Um...
(Andromeda) What are the conditions that make it so that something is recorded?
A: EM intersection.
Q: (L) EM intersection. What kind of... EM what?
A: Local and from emotional generation.
Q: (L) So the local EM conditions intersecting with the emotional production of some kind of EM is what causes it to be recorded?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) All right.
(Andromeda) It's funny that some things would be recorded and then it wouldn't be recorded over for so long. Like ancient recordings, like the Roman soldiers for instance, those stones have held that recording specifically for a really long time.
(L) I think it would have to be the conditions at the moment that the recording is made plus the emotional conditions or generation by the individual or individuals.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And I guess if something makes a strong recording, then it kind of dominates and maybe prevents the subsequent overriding?
A: Yes. But hyperdimensionally, there can be multiple layers of such recordings.
Q: (L) So it would depend...
(Andromeda) And then ones are more accessible maybe depending on what's going on or...
(L) Or what the conditions are at the moment of witnessing.
(Andromeda) Right.
A: Yes.
Q: (Andromeda) And then you have these time travelers, like the lady with the remote, for instance, are they aware that they're even time traveling? I mean, normally you don't time travel with a remote, or is it just some sort of dreaming?
A: Slippage via windows. Some are aware.
Q: (L) Okay. Well, let me ask you this. She mentioned on her website, the book, "The Time Traveler's Wife". I don't know how many of y'all have read that, but it's an interesting book because the idea, the theory that's put forward by the author of the book is that the guy was born with some kind of genetics that caused him to... when he's under stress or emotional conditions, that whatever was in his genetics would cause him to time travel. And when he did this, he couldn't take anything with him. Whenever he found himself in a new place, he found himself to be naked and obviously in unknown or unfriendly environments, and he had to learn how to do things to survive these untoward events that he had no control over. So let me ask the first question: Is it possible that people can be genetically wired, or somehow predisposed to time travel?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is it also possible that they can do this time traveling or space-time or whatever, without their conscious volition?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) I mean, the story in the book is very complex. He goes back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, all kinds of...
(Andromeda) And does he pop back to his normal time?
(L) Well, it is really more complicated than that, but I mean, there was a timeline, but that was fairly stable. It was a crazy story, a tragic story also, I should mention, for those who don't want to read anything tragic. It doesn't end well. Okay. So, that being the case, how can that be?
A: Just as there are individuals able to heal, to levitate, to be physical mediums, and other so-called paranormal abilities, so there are people whose systems do not submit to the constraints of space and time as you will it to be.
Q: (T.C.) Can I ask a question? Do these people, at the time of their incarnation, do they know that they are going to be incarnating into a body with those genetics, or are they choosing to incarnate into bodies with those genetics for a certain reason, or is it random?
A: In some cases, yes. In others it can be a confluence of genetics and external triggers that upregulate those genes. After all, many, many people have such genes that are dormant. And for other paranormal abilities as well.
Q: (Joe) So, the fact that someone can levitate, or time travel or teleport, or other paranormal... that doesn't speak to their spiritual qualities, or their spiritual development.
A: No.
Q: (Joe) It can be a genetic fluke, in some cases.
(L) It's a genetic fluke.
(Joe) Some people with those abilities in the past have been seen as special gurus and elevated...
(L) But they're not. It's a genetic fluke. Well, well, well...
(Joe) So if we see anybody levitating, we should go out and...
(L) What's the saying? If you see the Buddha, kill him! [laughter]
(Niall) If you see someone levitating, tell him to get off this high horse! [laughter]
(Joe) We should have a protest with signs that say "Down with this sort of thing!". [laughter]
(L) Yeah. Well, I mean, think of Daniel Dunglas Home and his levitating and Eusapia Paladino and her ectoplasmic productions. She would be measured to lose like 15 pounds in an hour long session of producing ectoplasm for whatever purposes. I mean, that's pretty awesome stuff. And then there were other mediums and healers, and...
(Joe) Did you ever ask what ectoplasm was?
(L) I don't think I ever asked what ectoplasm is.
(Joe) Or why it's produced? Like what is the function of it in terms of mediumship?
(L) I don't want to get into it, because I have a feeling that'll be a long discussion, and I'm tired.
(Joe) But did anybody ever collect any, or put in a jar or anything like that?
(L) They've tried to touch it, and it has caused damage to the medium.
(Joe) Hmmm, and it disappears afterwards?
(L) Yeah, it withdraws back into the medium's body. I mean, it's like it's part of them. They've been observed and photographed to be producing it through their nose, through their mouth...
(Joe) And it looks like what it looks like in most photographs, like a white gelatinous kind of thing.
(L) Yeah. I've got books with pictures of it, and it's really... but yeah, they've touched it, or done something to it, and it has caused pain, or injury, or psychological, or psychic damage to the medium if they interfere with it anyway.
(Joe) You don't be ever trying any of that stuff, okay?
(L) Yeah. So, all right. How long we've been going here? I'm tired for some reason. Do we have a clock on this thing?
(Andromeda) It's 9:50 pm.
(L) Oh, so we've been going for an hour and 15 minutes. Yeah. Okay, so I'm tired. Anybody got any last urgent questions they can think of?
(Chu) They had some about the Russian weapons.
(Joe) What about Putin's missiles?
(Niall) Are Putin's missiles 4D STO?
(Joe) Can I ask one about the missiles, Laura?
(L) Okay, hold on.
(Altair) Did the recent use by Russians of the new weapons in Ukraine cool down some hot heads who pushed the conflict in Ukraine?
(L) I think that has a pretty obvious answer, but we'll let it go. Did it?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) But I bet it's got some of those neocon warmongers slavering.
(Cosmos) Could be one reason why the Russians have developed some of the new hypersonic missiles systems, that, at some level, some powers could be influencing things on earth in order that those new systems could be used as a convenient cover-up story for stronger comet activity on earth in the future?
A: Very possibly!
Q: (L) Oh, you got an exclamation! [laughter] Okay, next question.
(Chu) That's it, I think. Let the guys here ask, maybe? I'll look for more.
(L) Okay. Somebody gave... wait a minute, don't go so fast! My eyes aren't that fast.
(Chu) But you said you were tired!
(L) Okay, she, he's giving the link about the article about Pompei. Okay, go slowly. And then Jane Tripp. So there's a link to Jane Tripp...
(Ryan) Can Jane Tripp do this with digital photographs?
(L) I don't know, like I said, I just saw it this evening and I skimmed through it very quickly. I can't tell you all the details. I downloaded her three books, but I haven't had a chance to look at them, so I don't know exactly how she's doing it.
(Ant22) Can we ask about the process these people use to travel in time? It seems quite unique for 3D beings.
(L) Well, actually, if you look at this website, I'm telling you about... This Princeton physicist has a theory about how it happens. So there's a page written by him. So read his theories. He...
A: Mostly correct too!
Q: (L) Are you talking about the physicist?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So in other words, there can be... and he was saying there can be multiple 3D worlds that interact somehow. I don't have the words for it, but that these brief windows can open and close, and people and things can be in the wrong place at the wrong time so that they end up in another wrong place at the wrong time. Argh! [laughter]
(new_to_chess) Are all materials equally good for recording?
A: No. Materials that naturally produce or hold EM.
Q: (L) So that would be like rocks with quartz or granite, or flowing water that generates fields, and rocks or...
(Andromeda) Maybe some metals?
A: Not usually.
Q: (L) Yeah. Okay. Keep going...
(Ellipse) There's Baird Thomas Spalding book too. The title is "Ultimate speaking" in French.
(L) I'm not confident that Spalding is a super reliable source. He did "The Life and Teachings of the Masters of the Far East". I have most of those books, and I read them years ago, probably over 30 years ago. And I think he made a lot of that stuff up, or he dreamed a lot of it. I mean, it's like Lobsang Rampa, who turned out to be provably kind of like a fraud. But if he was writing that stuff because he was psychically in tune with something, he could have been getting something, but it's not a super reliable source.
(irjO) Some people may have these genes reactivated with the Wave or the next cosmic environment change.
(L) Is that possible?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Okay. Next go down....
(Navigator) Is sound wave focusing also a genetic thing that “just happens”?
A: Can be. Also tech can be involved.
Q: (L) Okay. Go on...
(Carl) They used the bunker buster tech that C's mentioned a few years ago. (Referring to Russian missile)
A: Yes.
Q: (Alejo) That theory from the guy in Princeton sounds a lot like what Paul Eno describes as his thesis for apparitions and paranormal events. Parallel worlds and so on.
(L) Yeah. Parallel worlds, you're right.
(new_to_chess) Magnetic rocks?
(L) Yes.
(new_to_chess) Magnetite, pyrrhotite and the like?
(L) Yes.
A: And more!
Q: (Ant22) This whole story about stones recording things reminds me of megaliths doing all sorts of stuff for ancient people, as Laura described in The Wave. So is it possible that the megaliths still have the “powers” they had back then?
A: To some extent, yes.
Q: (Chu) That's it from the chat.
(L) Okay. I'm whupped. So is there anything we need to know...? I know this is kind of a lame way to do this [laughter], but we don't know what's going to happen in the future, we would like to be underwritten against future happenings that we might not like. So, if there's anything we need to be aware of, or warned about, could we have maybe a clue? We're not asking for a complete revelation or a dissertation. Just a few clues? Things are really kind of weird out there right now!
A: Expect more weather and celestial events to excite the populace. Thrilling times ahead indeed! Goodbye.
Q: (L) I'm not sure if I like that! [laughter] Remember what they said about Covid? Chills. You'll get chills. Now we're going to get thrills.
(Andromeda) Thriller was all about the zombies...
(Chu) Yeah! [laughter]
(L) What was the zombies?
(Andromeda) Michael Jackson's Thriller.
(L) Oh, it was all about the zombie apocalypse, huh? [laughter] I hope everybody has their zombie Apocalypse coffee cup. "Stay calm and be armed against zombies!" Come on people, if we can't laugh about it, we're dead.
(Joe) I hope everybody's got their mukluks.
(L) Yeah, get your snows shoes ready and, plenty of sweaters and blankets and stuff. Because we don't know what's going on...
(Joe) Just in case anybody was wondering, somebody was asking about when the Ice Age is going to arrive? Well, it's in process right now. The weather you're seeing happening right now over the past few years, really, but speeding up today is actually the...
(L) Process of the falling of an Ice Age.
(Joe) The process in earnest, the beginning of an ice age. And it's a process.
(L) Yeah. You don't just wake up one day and it's there. We live in a temporal realm.
(Andromeda) But there's a certain point where you know that it's like...
(L) Things take time to happen. Yeah. Well that was a good one, huh?
(All) Yeah.
END OF SESSION
Laura and Andromeda at the board
Niall, Joe, Gaby, Ark, PoB, Chu, Scottie, Princess Leia, Bella, Falkor, The Lunar Module
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Q: (L) All right. I guess we'll get started. [Long wait for movement of disc.]
A: Good evening all! Pronoiaea of Cassiopaea here with you tonight. And no, Laura, we are not mad at you.
Q: (L) Well, I was sitting there so long I thought to myself, "Are they mad at me? What did I do?" [laughter] All right.
(Andromeda) We should say the date.
(L) It is the 23rd of November, 2025. 24. [laughter] What the hell do I know?! And we have the usual suspects. Yeah. Saturday. [Review of those present] Alright, then... Obviously I am away with the fairies.
(Andromeda) Me too.
(L) So we've got some questions here and I've got some questions too, so I'll get y'alls out of the way first and then I'll try to get mine in. Carl asked:
(Carl) How many real living US citizens cast a legitimate vote for Donald Trump in the recent election, to the nearest million?
(Joe) Real citizens?
(L) Real citizens that are registered to vote.
A: Close to 100.
Q: (L) Close to 100 million?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And for Kamala?
A: Less than 23
Q: (Joe) So 75% for Trump.
(Andromeda) That's what I guessed.
(Chu) That's what we always said.
(L) So they not only stole votes from Trump, they added votes to Kamala and added extra votes to Kamala...
(Joe) There's the illegals...
(L) Plus illegal votes. Is that pretty much the picture?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Okay. So Ellipse says:
(Ellipse) Now that Trump is elected, the powers that be will certainly prepare something to pull the rug out from under him. Is there something in this regard we need to be aware of other than current general discussions on the forum and Twitter?
A: Most possibilities are well covered.
[Doggies are playing around the table and getting too rambunctious]
(L) All right. If you kids can't settle down, you're going to go in the kitchen. Now, settle down. Bella!
[Doggies lay down :) ]
Q: (L) All right. Okay, PopHistorian:
(PopHistorian) Aside from Trump's survival of the assassination attempt, were any other decisions made by the quorum that did have an important effect upon the balance on earth? Can you give us any clues?
A: We cannot reveal the decisions of the council in any detail other than to say that the suffering that leads to knowledge might be ameliorated somewhat.
Q: (L) Hmm... Well, I can't think of a follow up for that. Can anybody else?
(Joe) Why would it be ameliorated?
A: More are awakening.
Q: (Joe) This is the so-called 'quorum' we're talking about, right?
(Chu) Yeah.
(L) Do they like... I mean, since the quorum represents both sides - as I understand it - so they bargain and make negotiations and so forth for...? Kind of like when the Bible described God calling on the sons of God, the angels, to come to some council and Satan came forward and was accusing Job and so forth. I mean, is that story kind of reflective of the kind of things that can happen?
A: Close.
Q: (Joe) Is there a group that oversees the quorum in a sense that controls them or advises them?
A: 6th density.
Q: (L) And are sixth density, like what you said at one time or hinted or suggested, like angels or archangels in old parlance?
A: Yes.
Q: (Joe) It's them, right?
(L) Yeah.
(Joe) So they're in cahoots with the quorum. [laughter]
(L) Okay, so basically we're talking to the Archangel Michael. How about that? [laughter]
A: Not exactly.
Q: (L) Well, close enough.
(Chu) There's a follow up on the chat. I don't know if you want it.
(L) Okay.
(Alejo) Does that mean that the resistance they were after was somewhat already accomplished?
(L) The resistance, who was after? 'They' who?
(Joe) The resistance that the quorum wanted. In the last session, they said that there was going to be a program change and that it turned out it was going to be the assassination of Trump and that program change needed to happen. This needed to happen because there wasn't enough resistance from the people to achieve balance.
(L) In other words, did it galvanize people?
A: Close.
Q: (Joe) So can resistance mean...
(L) Like resistance to a disease?
(Joe) Well, yeah, in a certain sense. We think of resistance as people on the streets shouting, "Down with this sort of thing!"
(L) Down with your side, down with my side.
(Joe) Is resistance also even more so like you said, awake people being aware, and resistance like an internal resistance?
A: The imbalance was so severe that the STS side risked a severe violation of free will at a level that would have resulted in necessary degaussing from natural factors of balance.
Q: (L) So they were too dirty and devious.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) They did too much for too long and they really violated the free will of the people on this planet.
A: Yes.
Q: (Chu) There's more questions...
(Aeneas) 6D STO sees all. Did they therefore also see this change by the quorum?
(L) Well, I don't think that they see everything in advance. I mean, they said the universe is open. Are you assuming that everything is planned in advance? I mean, is that your assumption?
(Joe) You can imagine how complicated it probably would be in terms of all the permutations of any given action and knock-on effects and stuff. It's probably, yeah, it's very difficult to figure it out, but you need somebody with a big brain to see all the possible results.
(L) Yeah, it probably took some kind of council confab at those higher levels where they're so much smarter than us that we can't even imagine it.
(Joe) They're all playing 6D chess.
(L) Okay, next question from the chat:
(T.C.) So before the program changed, people were going to have to suffer more in order to gain some necessary knowledge, but the program change will or has revealed things to people, which means they won't need to suffer as much to gain said knowledge?
A: Yes.
Q: (T.C.) I wonder why that was done.
(L) Well, I think they just answered that when they were talking about the imbalance. Okay, moving on:
(Ennio) Tucker recently stated in an interview that he woke up one night over a year ago in pain to find claw marks on his ribs and shoulder. Whatever happened, his wife and four dogs, all light sleepers, slept through the attack or event that caused the injuries. The alleged attack, whatever it was, seemed to have a deep enough effect on him that he started reading scripture. We also know that Tucker made some interesting statements in some interviews over the past year to the effect that he believes there is a spiritual battle occurring and that there is an alien reality. So the question here is just what happened to him that night?
(L) Now, Ennio, you read The Wave, right? Where are you? Where is Ennio?
(Ennio) Yes.
(L) And you read about the gal who was interacting with the reptoid types and had scratches and you saw the picture and you've read, I'm sure, quite a few books about abductions and interactions with ultraterrestrial critters, et cetera, haven't you?
(Ennio) Of course.
(L) Then why did you ask that question?
(Ennio) Because I don't think we've heard of such a recent account for someone so prominent and someone with such influence as Tucker, and it had such a profound effect on him that, and he has such great influence...
(L) Do you think it is going to be any different for him than it is for anybody else? You think that because he was famous, well known and had a big audience, that he would be excluded from being subjected to such attacks?
(Joe) Well, what would be the...
(Ennio) He's very courageous for having come out to say something so outside of the box, I think. So that's one piece of it. And the other piece of it, given how many times I've been incorrect in assuming that certain events mean certain things, even though this looks like it's probably what it looks like... There was that question about the French intellectual Bernard Henry Levy and how he had the stigmata. And I thought, well, let's just ask just to be clear on what happened with Tucker on the off chance that maybe it wasn't in fact what it looked like, even though I think with great probability it is exactly what it looked like.
(Joe) Can we ask a more pertinent question as to why it happened and what the point of it was?
(L) Well, why does it happen to anybody?
(Niall) It happens to anybody, but this is Tucker Carlson. Next to Trump!
(L) Yeah but why would he be different?
(Joe) Well, it doesn't happen to a lot of people.
(Chu) Well, it's different in the sense that he can make it known to more people. He can talk about it.
(Niall) He can start reading scripture, start telling the American people that the CIA killed Kennedy, get fired from Fox. That's what happened in sequence. This had an effect on him and he went ballistic.
(Joe) Not a lot of people wake up with that. If it's what we assume it is, not a lot of people wake up after having been scratched by a reptoid...
(L) Alright, so Joe thinks the question is: Why?
(Joe) Or was there a specific purpose to it or was it just attack...?
A: It was hoped by wishfully thinking STS entities that Tucker would be frightened off.
Q: (L) Anything else?
A: Also that he might think that his experience was secret gov generated.
Q: (L) So they were thinking that they would do this and that he might think that the secret government had some kind of weird powers and program and that they would scare him off. Okay. But the result was that he took it in a very different way.
(Joe) He went fundie. He went biblical.
(L) Yeah, he went biblical.
(Niall) He started saying, "I think evil is real, it's all around us, it's supernatural." He started saying it on a podcast, then he started saying it to the American people on Fox. And then soon after he was fired, and here he is today! He finally actually talked about the incident, but he was talking metaphorically about it for 18 months.
(L) Yeah. So basically that was something that kind of backfired on him, even though talking about it in a biblical way is sometimes not very helpful. It still is better than assuming that everything is all materialistic phenomena.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Any follow up?
(Chu) Nope.
(L) Okay, T.C. says:
(T.C.) I guess biblical is his closest/best frame of reference.
(L) Yeah, that's true for a lot of people. That's because they haven't read High Strangeness! Okay. All right. fabric and dugdeep have a question here, but I think we need some more details. They're saying they saw a light object on October 13th while viewing the comet, so I'd like to hear from them what they saw.
(fabric) Yes. So sorry, I was looking for the new unmute button. Yeah, so we were looking at the sky for the comet back on October 13th, and while we were staring in the empty space to the sky, low in the horizon, what looked like a bright ball of light appeared just for a brief second of maybe four or five orders of magnitude brighter than Venus in the sky at the time. And I thought I imagined it, but dugdeep also saw it briefly, except he perceived it slightly different from what I saw. And we weren't sure what it was. And I don't think it was a plane. It was nothing that I've ever recognized seeing in the sky. And we were just wondering what exactly that was?
(L) So it was just above the horizon?
(fabric) Yeah.
(L) And it was like a bright flash?
(fabric) Yeah. It wasn't so much as a flash. It's like it was shining like a star and it kind of just appeared for about a second and then it was gone. Just directly front us where we were looking, there was nothing else around at the time. It didn't move.
(L) Okay. What were they seeing on this event? And they each saw it slightly differently. Okay, what were they seeing?
A: Brief intrusion of hyperdimensional craft on mission.
Q: (L) You mean a brief intrusion into our reality?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Was it on a mission in our reality?
A: No.
Q: (Andromeda) Did it have anything to do with the comet that was in the sky that night?
A: No.
Q: (Joe) Was it a thinning of the veil?
A: Yes.
Q: (Joe) And was it because they are all so enlightened that the power of the eyes caused the veil to thin? No, I'm just kidding.
A: Close.
Q: [laughter]
(Niall) Who's more enlightened? dugdeep or fabric? [laughter]
(Joe) So if we want to thin the veil, we need to get either dugdeep or fabric or both to just stare at the sky? Well, keep that handy then.
(L) All right, Ze Germans:
(Ze Germans) Did the dome of protection over Caesarea protect it from being flooded during Hurricane Helene?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) It was close!
(Niall) Yes, it was.
(L) And now S*** wants to know:
(S***) Is J***’s transition going well?
A: Yes.
Q: (S***) Is there anything I need to do for his peace?
A: Don't grieve so much. He is held back and saddened by your tears.
Q: (L) S***, you there?
(S***) Yeah, I'm here. Thank you.
(L) You all right, baby?
(S***) Thank you. Yes.
(L) You're going to be okay?
(S***) [unclear]
(L) Yeah, it's hard. But really please, the worst part about losing someone is that we are left and that we are now living in a world without them, without them physically present where we can touch them and talk to them. That's the worst part of it.
(S***) Yes. But I don't want to hurt him. That's most important.
(L) For him, he is in a much better state or place that we can only access partially and imperfectly. And I mean, it's really facile and easy to say these things, but time will make it better. It won't make it go away, but it makes it hurt less.
(S***) Thank you so much, Laura.
(L) You just need some time, baby. Just some time. Okay. And there's a note here for any question about istina. Did somebody have one about her?
(Chu) No. You just mentioned it on her thread that you were thinking of asking about her circumstances.
(L) Oh yeah... I've been thinking about that... Her circumstances where she had to live, she had to hide who and what she was from her husband and her children. And she was basically alone. And even though she had a husband and children. And I wondered, did that contribute to her illness?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) If she had been able to assert herself in some way, would she have been able to get well?
A: Possibly.
Q: (L) And that leads to another question that I had that came up in my mind over the last couple of weeks. As everybody knows, we've had a difficult time dealing with the loss of Pierre. It's been over a year, and we still haven't touched anything in his room. It's his room. Nobody wants to mess with his stuff. And I almost feel like he's still in his room. Question is, does Pierre spend a lot of time in the house here?
A: Fair amount.
Q: (L) So in a sense he's still partly with us?
A: Yes. Same for J*** and S***.
Q: (L) Okay. So he's there with you a lot. Okay. The other thing is, now I thought a lot about this because we've had two people that have been close to us that died from brain tumors. Only two, I think... Henry and Pierre. And both of them had really serious mother issues. And that's something that struck me when I was thinking about it. They both had very serious mother issues. And I wondered why the mother issues... I mean, is there a relationship between mother issues and their brain tumors?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is that always the case?
A: No.
Q: (L) But in these two cases, that was the case. That's what I noticed. I'm sure that other people who have brain tumors, if you examine their lives, you'd notice something else or different things. So, what is the deal there? Is there some similarity between the two of them?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And what was it?
A: They both turned their anger at their mothers on themselves since it was too frightening to be angry at the mother.
Q: (L) But I thought Pierre at least had dealt with that and had identified things?
A: Not at the primal level.
Q: (L) So they were like little children inside that were really, really angry at the mother and afraid to express that anger in a fully embodied way for fear of being, what? Cast out of the mother's love? Is that it?
A: Close. Fear of annihilation.
Q: (L) So the infant fears that if the parents don't respond positively to you that you will die. Is what was driving both of them?
A: Close.
Q: (L) And so they turned this anger on themselves and basically ate themselves up inside, in a sense?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) All right. Anybody got any follow up?
(Joe) What's the lesson for someone with that issue? What's the primary lesson they learned from having that kind of experience in life?
A: You are souls first. The genetic body can be overwhelmed by early emotional, mental, and/or physical abuse. It is very difficult to reach those levels of the subconscious mind.
Q: (L) So if you can free up or release yourself from that programming, then your soul can fully manifest. Is that it?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) But without freeing up, without releasing yourself from the control or the chains of that kind of programming, you really can't... I dunno how to say it. You can't manifest something that can seriously change the outcome of sickness or something.
(Andromeda) It may be very difficult. I think what they're talking about is early imprinting.
(L) Early imprinting.
(Andromeda) It's very difficult to change.
(L) All right... Now Ark has received an email from a A... K... who has a PhD in cognitive psychoneurology and a PhD in metaphysical sciences. Neither of which sound - I mean, did you get anything about where he received his education?
(Ark) No. I dunno.
(L) And he has a website called Eidetic Sentience Ontology Platform. You all can write that down because you might want to go check it out or we'll put a link on the forum or something. And he has on there also some other people who are associated with him, one of which is Dr. R.N. Boyd PhD, who is his scientific advisor who is from Princeton Bio Technologies. And this other thing was he's got also on there, and this is the interesting part, Jane Tripp, I don't know if anybody's heard of her. She's from Canada, experimental transdimensional expert and physical photographic medium. And she has two or three free books that you can download and look at. And what she does, apparently she says she's a physical medium and that she does produce ectoplasm and she also produces photographs. There were some experiments some years back, and I think I talked about it in The Wave of where there were some people who were leaving recording devices in a place where there were stones. And the next day they would come and they would find that there were voices recorded. And they kind of figured out that this was because the recordings were in the stones and the recording devices were recording, picking up, picking up on the replays of those recordings from the stones. Audio.
(Joe) Audio?
(L) Audio. Those were audio recordings. And this was, I'm trying to remember where I read about it, but I think, yeah, I read about it in this set of books. I have Mysteries of Mind, Space and Time. And then it kind of clicked in my mind with the work of Lethbridge who was talking about hauntings and feelings and spirits of places and so forth being recordings in the atmosphere or in the underlying... the substrate of rocks and so forth that gave off electromagnetic fields or something so that these things were recording events and then they would playback over and over again. And that was an explanation for why some hauntings were so mechanical and why you would see marching Roman soldiers marching cut off at the waist because their feet were still on the road at the level where the Roman road was, which was now covered with several feet of soil that the recording played back exactly as it was. And the soil had been added since then. So they were still marching on the old buried Roman road. So I had made those connections that a lot of things that happen are just like recordings. Well anyhow, this woman is saying that you can get photographs from stones, also, and that she somehow, and maybe I read it and I didn't catch it or she didn't describe it exactly, but somehow she interacts with stones or buildings or whatever in such a way that she is able to produce photographs from thousands of years ago. The stones apparently are playing back these images.
(Andromeda) Does she draw them?
(L) She produces photographs.
(Joe) With a camera?
(L) With film. And I didn't get exactly all the details, but anyhow, on this website, she's got one article in particular, and it's the one that caught my eye that was supposed to be photographs that she made at Pompeii that apparently she was able to produce these photographs of things that were happening at various places at the time of the eruption of Vesuvius. And I mean, they're not absolutely clear. They're more like what you would expect kind of ghostly photographs to be. But it was fascinating. And if it's true, I think it's pretty cool. I mean, hey, I got a list of places I'd like to send her anyhow. So let me ask, is this woman, Jane Tripp able to produce photographs of ancient times by picking up the electromagnetically recorded images from stones or buildings or whatever? Is she really able to do that? Is that happening?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Okay. So the other thing she talks about is using photographs. And this might be interesting for a lot of you who are into photography, she's got a whole theory about photographs that you can look at photographs and find out all kinds of interesting things. I'm not going to go into details. You all have to go and look at her stuff, but it's really interesting. But one of the things she talks about is about time travelers who appear in old photographs. They're like a hundred years old. She's got one photograph where it looks like a woman is holding either some kind of TV remote or an older cell phone or something. And another one where she's analyzed a picture and she says that this is a time traveler, that's a time traveler, so on and so forth. So, is she in fact detecting in photographs time Travelers?
A: Often, yes.
Q: (L) All right. Um...
(Andromeda) What are the conditions that make it so that something is recorded?
A: EM intersection.
Q: (L) EM intersection. What kind of... EM what?
A: Local and from emotional generation.
Q: (L) So the local EM conditions intersecting with the emotional production of some kind of EM is what causes it to be recorded?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) All right.
(Andromeda) It's funny that some things would be recorded and then it wouldn't be recorded over for so long. Like ancient recordings, like the Roman soldiers for instance, those stones have held that recording specifically for a really long time.
(L) I think it would have to be the conditions at the moment that the recording is made plus the emotional conditions or generation by the individual or individuals.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And I guess if something makes a strong recording, then it kind of dominates and maybe prevents the subsequent overriding?
A: Yes. But hyperdimensionally, there can be multiple layers of such recordings.
Q: (L) So it would depend...
(Andromeda) And then ones are more accessible maybe depending on what's going on or...
(L) Or what the conditions are at the moment of witnessing.
(Andromeda) Right.
A: Yes.
Q: (Andromeda) And then you have these time travelers, like the lady with the remote, for instance, are they aware that they're even time traveling? I mean, normally you don't time travel with a remote, or is it just some sort of dreaming?
A: Slippage via windows. Some are aware.
Q: (L) Okay. Well, let me ask you this. She mentioned on her website, the book, "The Time Traveler's Wife". I don't know how many of y'all have read that, but it's an interesting book because the idea, the theory that's put forward by the author of the book is that the guy was born with some kind of genetics that caused him to... when he's under stress or emotional conditions, that whatever was in his genetics would cause him to time travel. And when he did this, he couldn't take anything with him. Whenever he found himself in a new place, he found himself to be naked and obviously in unknown or unfriendly environments, and he had to learn how to do things to survive these untoward events that he had no control over. So let me ask the first question: Is it possible that people can be genetically wired, or somehow predisposed to time travel?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is it also possible that they can do this time traveling or space-time or whatever, without their conscious volition?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) I mean, the story in the book is very complex. He goes back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, all kinds of...
(Andromeda) And does he pop back to his normal time?
(L) Well, it is really more complicated than that, but I mean, there was a timeline, but that was fairly stable. It was a crazy story, a tragic story also, I should mention, for those who don't want to read anything tragic. It doesn't end well. Okay. So, that being the case, how can that be?
A: Just as there are individuals able to heal, to levitate, to be physical mediums, and other so-called paranormal abilities, so there are people whose systems do not submit to the constraints of space and time as you will it to be.
Q: (T.C.) Can I ask a question? Do these people, at the time of their incarnation, do they know that they are going to be incarnating into a body with those genetics, or are they choosing to incarnate into bodies with those genetics for a certain reason, or is it random?
A: In some cases, yes. In others it can be a confluence of genetics and external triggers that upregulate those genes. After all, many, many people have such genes that are dormant. And for other paranormal abilities as well.
Q: (Joe) So, the fact that someone can levitate, or time travel or teleport, or other paranormal... that doesn't speak to their spiritual qualities, or their spiritual development.
A: No.
Q: (Joe) It can be a genetic fluke, in some cases.
(L) It's a genetic fluke.
(Joe) Some people with those abilities in the past have been seen as special gurus and elevated...
(L) But they're not. It's a genetic fluke. Well, well, well...
(Joe) So if we see anybody levitating, we should go out and...
(L) What's the saying? If you see the Buddha, kill him! [laughter]
(Niall) If you see someone levitating, tell him to get off this high horse! [laughter]
(Joe) We should have a protest with signs that say "Down with this sort of thing!". [laughter]
(L) Yeah. Well, I mean, think of Daniel Dunglas Home and his levitating and Eusapia Paladino and her ectoplasmic productions. She would be measured to lose like 15 pounds in an hour long session of producing ectoplasm for whatever purposes. I mean, that's pretty awesome stuff. And then there were other mediums and healers, and...
(Joe) Did you ever ask what ectoplasm was?
(L) I don't think I ever asked what ectoplasm is.
(Joe) Or why it's produced? Like what is the function of it in terms of mediumship?
(L) I don't want to get into it, because I have a feeling that'll be a long discussion, and I'm tired.
(Joe) But did anybody ever collect any, or put in a jar or anything like that?
(L) They've tried to touch it, and it has caused damage to the medium.
(Joe) Hmmm, and it disappears afterwards?
(L) Yeah, it withdraws back into the medium's body. I mean, it's like it's part of them. They've been observed and photographed to be producing it through their nose, through their mouth...
(Joe) And it looks like what it looks like in most photographs, like a white gelatinous kind of thing.
(L) Yeah. I've got books with pictures of it, and it's really... but yeah, they've touched it, or done something to it, and it has caused pain, or injury, or psychological, or psychic damage to the medium if they interfere with it anyway.
(Joe) You don't be ever trying any of that stuff, okay?
(L) Yeah. So, all right. How long we've been going here? I'm tired for some reason. Do we have a clock on this thing?
(Andromeda) It's 9:50 pm.
(L) Oh, so we've been going for an hour and 15 minutes. Yeah. Okay, so I'm tired. Anybody got any last urgent questions they can think of?
(Chu) They had some about the Russian weapons.
(Joe) What about Putin's missiles?
(Niall) Are Putin's missiles 4D STO?
(Joe) Can I ask one about the missiles, Laura?
(L) Okay, hold on.
(Altair) Did the recent use by Russians of the new weapons in Ukraine cool down some hot heads who pushed the conflict in Ukraine?
(L) I think that has a pretty obvious answer, but we'll let it go. Did it?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) But I bet it's got some of those neocon warmongers slavering.
(Cosmos) Could be one reason why the Russians have developed some of the new hypersonic missiles systems, that, at some level, some powers could be influencing things on earth in order that those new systems could be used as a convenient cover-up story for stronger comet activity on earth in the future?
A: Very possibly!
Q: (L) Oh, you got an exclamation! [laughter] Okay, next question.
(Chu) That's it, I think. Let the guys here ask, maybe? I'll look for more.
(L) Okay. Somebody gave... wait a minute, don't go so fast! My eyes aren't that fast.
(Chu) But you said you were tired!
(L) Okay, she, he's giving the link about the article about Pompei. Okay, go slowly. And then Jane Tripp. So there's a link to Jane Tripp...
(Ryan) Can Jane Tripp do this with digital photographs?
(L) I don't know, like I said, I just saw it this evening and I skimmed through it very quickly. I can't tell you all the details. I downloaded her three books, but I haven't had a chance to look at them, so I don't know exactly how she's doing it.
(Ant22) Can we ask about the process these people use to travel in time? It seems quite unique for 3D beings.
(L) Well, actually, if you look at this website, I'm telling you about... This Princeton physicist has a theory about how it happens. So there's a page written by him. So read his theories. He...
A: Mostly correct too!
Q: (L) Are you talking about the physicist?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So in other words, there can be... and he was saying there can be multiple 3D worlds that interact somehow. I don't have the words for it, but that these brief windows can open and close, and people and things can be in the wrong place at the wrong time so that they end up in another wrong place at the wrong time. Argh! [laughter]
(new_to_chess) Are all materials equally good for recording?
A: No. Materials that naturally produce or hold EM.
Q: (L) So that would be like rocks with quartz or granite, or flowing water that generates fields, and rocks or...
(Andromeda) Maybe some metals?
A: Not usually.
Q: (L) Yeah. Okay. Keep going...
(Ellipse) There's Baird Thomas Spalding book too. The title is "Ultimate speaking" in French.
(L) I'm not confident that Spalding is a super reliable source. He did "The Life and Teachings of the Masters of the Far East". I have most of those books, and I read them years ago, probably over 30 years ago. And I think he made a lot of that stuff up, or he dreamed a lot of it. I mean, it's like Lobsang Rampa, who turned out to be provably kind of like a fraud. But if he was writing that stuff because he was psychically in tune with something, he could have been getting something, but it's not a super reliable source.
(irjO) Some people may have these genes reactivated with the Wave or the next cosmic environment change.
(L) Is that possible?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Okay. Next go down....
(Navigator) Is sound wave focusing also a genetic thing that “just happens”?
A: Can be. Also tech can be involved.
Q: (L) Okay. Go on...
(Carl) They used the bunker buster tech that C's mentioned a few years ago. (Referring to Russian missile)
A: Yes.
Q: (Alejo) That theory from the guy in Princeton sounds a lot like what Paul Eno describes as his thesis for apparitions and paranormal events. Parallel worlds and so on.
(L) Yeah. Parallel worlds, you're right.
(new_to_chess) Magnetic rocks?
(L) Yes.
(new_to_chess) Magnetite, pyrrhotite and the like?
(L) Yes.
A: And more!
Q: (Ant22) This whole story about stones recording things reminds me of megaliths doing all sorts of stuff for ancient people, as Laura described in The Wave. So is it possible that the megaliths still have the “powers” they had back then?
A: To some extent, yes.
Q: (Chu) That's it from the chat.
(L) Okay. I'm whupped. So is there anything we need to know...? I know this is kind of a lame way to do this [laughter], but we don't know what's going to happen in the future, we would like to be underwritten against future happenings that we might not like. So, if there's anything we need to be aware of, or warned about, could we have maybe a clue? We're not asking for a complete revelation or a dissertation. Just a few clues? Things are really kind of weird out there right now!
A: Expect more weather and celestial events to excite the populace. Thrilling times ahead indeed! Goodbye.
Q: (L) I'm not sure if I like that! [laughter] Remember what they said about Covid? Chills. You'll get chills. Now we're going to get thrills.
(Andromeda) Thriller was all about the zombies...
(Chu) Yeah! [laughter]
(L) What was the zombies?
(Andromeda) Michael Jackson's Thriller.
(L) Oh, it was all about the zombie apocalypse, huh? [laughter] I hope everybody has their zombie Apocalypse coffee cup. "Stay calm and be armed against zombies!" Come on people, if we can't laugh about it, we're dead.
(Joe) I hope everybody's got their mukluks.
(L) Yeah, get your snows shoes ready and, plenty of sweaters and blankets and stuff. Because we don't know what's going on...
(Joe) Just in case anybody was wondering, somebody was asking about when the Ice Age is going to arrive? Well, it's in process right now. The weather you're seeing happening right now over the past few years, really, but speeding up today is actually the...
(L) Process of the falling of an Ice Age.
(Joe) The process in earnest, the beginning of an ice age. And it's a process.
(L) Yeah. You don't just wake up one day and it's there. We live in a temporal realm.
(Andromeda) But there's a certain point where you know that it's like...
(L) Things take time to happen. Yeah. Well that was a good one, huh?
(All) Yeah.
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