Session 23 November 2024

[Adobe]

Just a word, if I may, about the Jesuits:

I was fascinated by what was called "The Jesuit Reductions" About a project that lasted for over 150 years in the jungles of what was then just called Paraguay. Today that area has the names of 5 different countries.

The book "Black Robes in Paraguay" can still be found on amazon. It reads like a novel. It covers the very interesting project by the Jesuits from beginning to end.

The movie "The Mission" with Robert De Niro was pretty good, and after reading the book, I think it gave a fair rendition of the history. For Hollywood that is.

The "Jesuit Reduction" project helped destroy the Jesuit order. In the end they were thrown out of all Spain, and its territories, then disbanded by the Pope in 1767 and many were hunted down and killed. Then in 1814 a "new and improved" Jesuit order was restored by the Pope. I can't comment on them.

Now every time I hear Jesuit I think of the reduction project in Paraguay and think perhaps that was the best adaption a Christian group could have done for its fellow man.

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Now every time I hear Jesuit I think of the reduction project in Paraguay and think perhaps that was the best adaption a Christian group could have done for its fellow man.

It is interesting that the inception of the Illuminati Order has a Jesuit acolyte: J. A. Weishaupt. It seems that the apex of the Orders share not only common interests but people.

Those interested in the plural author Fulcanelli perhaps know that Pierre Dujols and Paul Decœur were Templar Frères. The parents of Pierre, monsieur François, a cobbler by profession, and Toinette (Antoinette) Lapeyre were very poor, but Pierre went from Saint Illide to Lasserre to attend the famous Jesuit college of Aix-en-Provence. Why did his father, a humble shoemaker in Saint Illide, marry a Provençal woman, obviously uprooted in Lasserre? Why did this family leave their village, seemingly without return? How was Pierre admitted to the Jesuits, and who paid for his studies?

The "Jesuit Reduction" project helped destroy the Jesuit order. In the end they were thrown out of all Spain, and its territories, then disbanded by the Pope in 1767 and many were hunted down and killed. Then in 1814 a "new and improved" Jesuit order was restored by the Pope. I can't comment on them.

The Jesuit Order seems to be “improved” multiple times, even before Loyola; The German psychiatrist Georg Lomer in the book «San Ignacio de Loyola, de Erótico a Santo: un Estudio Histórico-Patográfico,» Sucesores de Rivadeneyra, Madrid, 1923, p. 204, pointed:

[...] eighty years before [the Jesuits] there was an Order, which in a brief of Pius II, dated October 13, 1459, is indicated by the name of “New Society of Jesus.” According to the bull of January 18, 1459, this Order was formed by the aggregation of several smaller orders; it had knights, priests, laymen, and used the habit of the ancient Templars: a white cape with a red cross. It was under the direction of a Grand Master; it had its residence in Lemnos and its name bore the addition “Order of the Virgin Mary of Bethlehem.”

 

[Ricardo]

It is interesting that the inception of the Illuminati Order (...)

Far older according to transcripts , a red herring / distraction or front for something else / other purposes. According to transcripts :

Session 25 October 1994 :

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Q: (L) How do the Masons relate to the Illuminati?

A: Masons are low level branch.

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And the Masons date for a few centuries BC in transcripts , Illuminati @ Transcripts Search , Mrs. LKJ has written a bit on Fulcanelli .

 

[cbi]

Far older according to transcripts , a red herring / distraction or front for something else / other purposes.

There is a piece of wise advice in Spanish, not sure if I can translate its spirit: “When a Secret Order comes to light, its mission has already been accomplished for a long time.” Under the aegis of Catastrophism, who knows how long they have existed and with what monikers.

I have read the thread you mentioned about Fulcanelli and internal alchemy (aka: Neidan/Jindan for Daoist practice), thank you. But perhaps, Mr. Ricardo, you can guide me... Apart from the Session 23 Aug. 2014, when it is being asked:

Q: (trendsetter37) So, while we were discussing FRV, and some of the notes from the past couple of months including from Pierre's book and other associated material, I got the idea that all matter has an EM frequency. Could you reverse that by applying a different EM frequency, as in adding information in the form of EM frequency to manipulate the matter - or even create matter?
A: Of course. It is called “alchemy.” The question is: What is the method?

is there any sound reference to Spiritus Mundi of external alchemy? Remember Fulcanelli cites the core achievement of Hermetism: “Catch a ray of sun, condense it into a substantial form, nourish this corporified spiritual fire with elemental fire, and you will possess the greatest treasure of this world.”

 

[Ricardo]

heh , has been a while since i've read Fulcanelli's words explicitly , however , fwiiw , external alchemy sounds like a double blind for the greedy . ( hope this helps , my 2x cents )

Session 27 May 1995 :

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Q: (L) What is the nature of the illusion? (T) That there isn't any connection between consciousness and matter. It is only an illusion that there is. It is part of the third density...

A: No. Illusion is that there is not.

Q: (L) The illusion is that there is no link between consciousness and matter.

A: Yes.

Q: (T) The illusion is that there is not a link. In third density... (L) I got it! (T) Don't disappear on me now! [Laughter] The relationship is that consciousness is matter.

A: Close. What about vice versa?

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Session 27 May 1995 :

You have another session which, according to humble experience, is more “on the track:”

Q: What is the 'prime matter' of the alchemical process?
A: H2O.
Q: What? (Ark) Water can be in different states.
A: Heavy water.
Q: What is heavy water? (Ark) Instead of normal hydrogen, you have hydrogen atoms with two neutrons. It is used in atomic plants. (L) Okay, if that is the prime matter, what is the philosophical mercury that goes with it?
A: Wrong "track."
Q: What is the right track?
A: See several answers back.
Q: It is not etherally correct to answer this?
A: No, sound, Laura, sound! See Leedskallen.
Q: How does one produce this sound?
A: We have given you the pieces, now "fit them in."

I think there is “heavy” combination in water evaporation and “quantum” particles, which can go through the glass of a retort... As if it were an interferometer.

 

[Ricardo]

Session 16 April 2016 :

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Q: (L) Okay, so getting these codes and doing that isn't necessary for imprinting your water. We already established talking to your water is a good thing. What about singing to your water?

A: Indeed, but be careful of the melody and the lyrics!

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Water eh? makes sense, too much XD , thanks . Well , interferometry leads us to , waves.

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Session 22 October 1994 :

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Q: (L) Is it construction work?

A: Yes except that they are using sound waves to disintegrate rock in the crust under the ocean. This disintegration causes the atomic structure of the particles being disintegrated to completely disappear which has something to do with why those sounds are heard in that particular rhythm.

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and light as well ;

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Session 7 November 1994 :

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Q: (L) What is the connection between UFOs and earthquakes?

A: Is none. Coincidence. If they are there, some fault breaks produce EM fields which are visible briefly as red or yellow light flashes.

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Session 16 November 1994 :

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A: Molecules, atomic matter. Light is first density and unifies all densities.

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Session 26 November 1994 :

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Q: (L) And light waves, actual light waves, affect DNA?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) What was the origin of the light waves?

A: Our center.

Q: (L) What is your center?

A: Our realm. STO.

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Session 15 June 1996 :

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A: If gravity is everything, what isn't it? Light is energy expression generated by gravity.

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This reminds me of reading about an experiment in , then , soviet Russia , wherein , a sample of some pathogen on a petri dish was put inside a glass case , with a nearby , empty petri dish outside of said glass case , which resulted in no change on the outside clean petri dish after a period of waiting , however , when the normal glass case was switched to one of a quartz glass case , the same pathogen was found in the outside petri dish after a similar period of waiting. ( source , one of Ingo Swann's books , iirc , psychic sexuality ) so water structure being cristal "like" , has quite an impact it seems , on a side note , was reading @Persej 's post here , seems one more reason to take iodine regularly (IMO) . the other issue on alchemy that seems still missing on this post is that of anti-matter , which the transcripts also mention regarding this same topic . apologies for the somewhat fragmented post / quoting.

 

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, however , when the normal glass case was switched to one of a quartz glass case , the same pathogen was found in the outside petri dish after a similar period of waiting.

I think that's the “right track.”

You see, Mr. Ricardo, there are different behaviors when you place in the athanor a glass, borosilicate or quartz retort. It seems quartz releases particles faster than the former two. Now, what that silica crystal particles play on all the alchemical process? My answer walks in the Béchamp' microzymas, Reich' bions, Naessens' somatides “terrain:”

With his exceptional instrument, Naessens next went on to discover in the blood of animals and humans—as well as in the saps of plants—a hitherto unknown, ultramicroscopic, subcellular, living and reproducing microscopic form, which he christened a somatid (tiny body). This new particle, he found, could be cultured, that is, grown, outside the bodies of its hosts (in vitro, "under glass," as the technical term has it). And, strangely enough, this particle was seen by Naessens to develop in a pleomorphic (form-changing) cycle, the first three stages of which—somatid, spore, and double spore—are perfectly normal in healthy organisms, in fact crucial to their existence.
Even stranger, over the years the somatids were revealed to be virtually indestructible! They have resisted exposure to carbonization temperatures of 200° C and more. They have survived exposure to 50,000 rems of nuclear radiation, far more than enough to kill any living thing. They have been totally unaffected by any acid. Taken from centrifuge residues, they have been found impossible to cut with a diamond knife, so unbelievably impervious to any such attempts is their hardness.

Perhaps, you'll be interested in this short explanation of Dr. Alain Scohy book's Les microzymas, la révolution en biologie and its connection with Dr. Hamer theory:

When the quantum particles cross the silicon dioxide barrier of the retort, they coagulate in what alchemists/hermetisms called Spiritus Mundi: and I think it's related to the Primordial soup (Oparin–Haldane hypothesis). So, we are not playing with greedy's gold. As Willy Schrödter put is simply, citing Paracelsus: “Not as people say: let alchemy make gold and silver! This is the task: let us make the Arcana and use it to cure diseases!”

 

[Ricardo]

Since virii are said in the transcripts to be transdensity ,aside the fact that RNA and DNA are similar , i'd tend to agree to the bion integration / role on human physiology ( fwiiw) , plus this would help ... integrate Eastern systems on the human body ( ie) , where Western silly notions of ever increasing reductionist approach leads nowhere ( on purpose i think ).

Session 17 July 2022 :

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(Joe) How correct are scientists' ideas about viruses?

A: Close enough though there is a lot they do not know including the fact that a virus is a transdensity structure.

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[Ricardo]

Since virii are said in the transcripts to be transdensity ,aside the fact that RNA and DNA are similar , i'd tend to agree to the bion integration / role on human physiology ( fwiiw) , plus this would help ... integrate Eastern systems on the human body ( ie) , where Western silly notions of ever increasing reductionist approach leads nowhere ( on purpose i think ).

Session 17 July 2022 :

(...)

(Joe) How correct are scientists' ideas about viruses?

A: Close enough though there is a lot they do not know including the fact that a virus is a transdensity structure.

(...)

( Cont. , as well as orgone , which is of course mentioned in the transcripts , and Charles Webster Leadbeater broader work on Occult Alchemy as well , and other of his books ) my 2x cents /blah

 

[cbi]

(Joe) How correct are scientists' ideas about viruses?
A: Close enough though there is a lot they do not know including the fact that a virus is a transdensity structure.

I think this is an epistemology or, in a proper use of the word, an hermeneutic scope bias. Channeling is biased on the root of beliefs and knowledge of the participants of the session (remember the first sessions about Jesus/Jesinavarah?). If Mr. Joe will ask again with the term (and fore knowledge) of bions, viroids, somatides & microzymas, perhaps he will receive an answer of dual density living forms — like the Hilarion material (books by phycisist Maurice Cooke); e.g.: Einstein Doesn't Work Here Anymore— the precursors (non-RNA/non-DNA) of the cells.

Charles Webster Leadbeater broader work on Occult Alchemy

Could you please, Senhor Ricardo, re-elaborate or expand it? I've only read Occult Chemistry (from Besant/Jinarajadasa), and it is a good book about the primordial atoms (seen with the Yogui's Mind Eye) and how the physical matter, recognized in the mainstream scientific model, is formed by this agglomeration of “átomos ultérrimos” (“quantum” particles?).

 

[Wandering Star]

I think this is an epistemology or, in a proper use of the word, an hermeneutic scope bias. Channeling is biased on the root of beliefs and knowledge of the participants of the session (remember the first sessions about Jesus/Jesinavarah?).

Why can't a virus be a transdensity structure?

 

[Wandering Star]

perhaps he will receive an answer of dual density living forms

Or transdensity.

 

[Wandering Star]

Or transdensity.

The power of the Midi-chlorians.

(StarWars movie reference)

 

[cbi]

Why can't a virus be a transdensity structure?

I don't asserted that, did I? What I'm trying to tell is a bion, viroid, somatide or microzyma are (maybe) the best candidates precursors of cells and virus, and sure they are trans-density. Let me put it in this way: does music cease to exists because there is no physical media (tape, optical, electronic memory)?

That aforementioned corpuscles didn't have any RNA (much less DNA), they have a core of crystal of silicon (the same material where we store information in ours computing devices): but as Dr. Reich' experiments shown, they can build polynucleotide chains up from a nutrient-rich soup.

(I edited it a few times because English is not my native language.)