The Travis Walton incident – The True Ending of his Story
Revealed in Joe Rogan Experience #1574 - Jacques Vallee & James Fox
Intro:
Walton was memory wiped according to the C’s. Then how exactly did he tell his story later?? Hypnosis is your friend, just like in the Barney and Betty Hill case. Hollywood probably paid him for the interview, when they did the movie Fire in the sky. Except as customary in Hollywood, they changed the ending. Go and watch the movie or if you don't have the time, your can quickly
read the plot.
Fire in the Sky (1993)
1h 49m | PG-13
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But the ending changed the last minute, Tracy Tormé wrote it.
For example, the recent excellent movie titled
The Long Walk, got an entirely different ending, which (IMO) made the movie a lot better than the poor ending of the
Stephen King novel it was based on. So, Hollywood actually did people a favor in latter case. But lying about the true story of Travis Walton? Not so much!
James Fox interviewed Walton, who told him
the Hollywood movie ending is fake and recounted the real story, which James tells about in the
Joe Rogan Experience #1574 - Jacques Vallee & James Fox
Transcript follows, from video-time 02:55:18:
James Fox:
- Yes, we interviewed Travis for uh, potentially for the film. (A James Fox documentary) Then opted to kind of avoid that aspect of.. I don't consider the Travis Walton an abduction, so much as an encounter, that didn't end well..
James Fox:
- He probably was taken aboard to get recovered, but..
Rogan:
- What do you mean?
James Fox recounts the whole event:
- Well they were in the woods right in Snowflake Arizona. I think it
was 1973, he was a logger. They had a contract with the government to log or to clear a certain area. It was late [
and DARK by that time] and they were behind on the schedule so they were working a little bit later than they normally would. They all got in the truck, they had a four door truck, that had like seven of them. Driving out and they saw a light in the sky. They thought it was a fire. As they got closer to it, it was this perfect disc hovering about treetop level. Right out the window.
WHAT DID THE UFO LOOK LIKE??
One of the woodcutters from Travis‘ team, whom James Fox interviewed, expertly describes the UFO being - in the artistic / design style of - very much like the 1975 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray –
as you see the silver car on the picture: “Have you ever seen like a brand new corvette?” “It was more perfect than that!”
“..
it was just this perfect disc and he said it was lit up like you could see there's almost little windows in it and it just suspended in this darkness. It was kind of just wobbling there. But the way he described it, he made the correlation of a brand new corvette, isn't that funny?”
I mean, they said they could have hit it with a rock. Travis Walton told the driver:
- Stop the truck! I'm gonna jump out!
They all, against their will:
- Don't do that Travis!
He just left, out of the truck and started running towards this thing. Thinking it was going to just shoot off. But it didn't. It stayed there. As he got closer to it, he started to kind of freak out a little bit. It started making a weird sound, like it was spooling up or something. So, he ducked down behind a log that was on the ground. They're screaming at him in the truck:
- Get back! Get back here! What are you doing?!
He'd realized, he was dangerously close to this thing. So, he was going to make a run for the truck. He got up as this thing was spooling up according to him:
- VooooiieeeeWW! - It was!
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All the way across like 60 feet and he landed and those guys took off thinking they were next and they left him for dead, out there in the woods!
Q: (L) Well, we didn't think so, but we had to ask. Okay. And then I asked: Was Travis Walton revived by the aliens because he was accidentally killed by a plasma beam?
A: Partly true indeed.
Q: (L) Well, partly true. What part is true? He was revived by the alien beings?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Was he accidentally killed by the plasma beam?
A: No
Q: (L) So he wasn't accidentally killed, but he was killed, right?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Was he intentionally killed?
A: Yes
They're driving down the road, hightailing it out of there and then the driver realizes like:
- We can't leave Travis, man! We got to go back and get Travis!
They were all freaked out thinking that they were going to be next! Finally, they argued and he said:
- Look man, I'm going back to get Travis! Whether you guys are with me or not!
- If you want, you guys can stay here. I'll come back and get you.
[
Its DARK outside, deep in the forest..in a far away, remote area]
They're like:
- No, no! Let's stick together!
James Fox continues:
"So they all sit together in the truck, they turned around they went back..[but the]: UFO gone! Travis gone.. They go down into town and they have to tell the authorities. You can imagine, 1975, they're telling local authorities and there is this small enough town, where everybody kind of knows everybody..
- Hey, our buddy got abducted by a flying saucer and he's gone!
They're like:
- Yeah, you guys are all under arrest for homicide! We'll start an intense search the next day with helicopters, dogs."
"It made world news all across, you know, you can imagine these guys took a lie detector test. They stuck to their story even though they knew that people wouldn't believe them."
"Authorities thought they'd killed Travis and they buried him somewhere in the hills. So, they're all doing this five-day intensive search."
James Fox:
"Travis Walton reappears five days later with facial growth. Here's the really fascinating part of this story that I find incredible, because, again, don't look at what
The Phenomenon does,
[YT link] sometimes you look at what THEY don't do!
Well.. they didn't drop him off, where they picked him up! I've been out there. It's a really remote area in the mountains in the forest. He would not have made it back alive!"
"Drop him off in the middle of town? They didn't do that either. But they dropped
him off right on the outskirts of the town, in a little valley, so they minimized any possibility of their exposure. They dropped him off in a place, where he could get help, but they would minimize being seen. They did it at night."
Q: (L) Did they change their minds?
A: Orders came from higher.
Q: (L) So somebody up in the 4D STS hierarchy ordered them to revive him and put him back?
A: Yes.
Q: (Joe) Was he put back the way he was before?
A: No.
Q: (Joe) What changed?
(L) What was changed about him?
(Joe) Was he missing something?
A: He was used for sperm harvesting and memories were wiped.
James Fox continues:
- "Five days later Travis reappears and of course he's back and he recounts the same story. He's been recounting the same story: He woke up uh.. it's funny actually, I met with Travis a handful of times and I sat down with him and a lot of times when I really want to absorb a story I closed my eyes and then their words recreate the visuals for me, so I see it!"
(James Fox here demonstrates - again - that he has the psychic ability of clairvoyance. Another time a man that James wanted to interview and was waiting for this man, up in a multi-story building. The man, still down on the street, was trying to open his car – fully obstructing the door from James watching him from up in the building, but the man had trouble with the lock. James later described exactly to that surprised man, how the process of opening the stuck lock took place and how the man overcame the mechanical trouble..)
James Fox continues:
So, that's what I did with Travis at dinner. Just the two of us and I closed
my eyes and he told me he woke up on board [of the UFO]. He was on a table and there were.. and he was kind of blurry-eyed, but he could see these little beings and he initially thought, what am I looking at here where am I? He saw these little typical beings, the diminutive body. Big head, big almond shape black eyes and
he was absolutely terrified. He grabbed some sort of instrument that was on the table and he said that he even touched one of them and he goes:
“- I was surprised at how light IT was IT moved really easily.”
He started aggressively swinging some instrument that he found on the table towards these things and then they scurried off and left the room. He went off, they went to the right, he went left and he was walking down a hallway: [about which] he said "you can imagine like polished aluminum there were no seams no rivets no weld marks, but it was all solid like one solid piece" and he said “it was tight and my shoulders were rubbing on either side of this hallway. I was running down the hallway totally freaked out!"
He didn't know, where he was and
he had a hard time breathing. He took a left and he went into this room and there was a command chair. He sat in the command chair and he started playing with buttons. He was trying to get out. He just wanted to get out! All of a sudden there was a holographic projection, like a star chart appeared. [in the air before him and this projection was following, where ever he turned and looked] He was moving with these buttons and everything started to move and he thought:
- "My god if I'm on a spaceship I could crash this thing! I don't know what I'm doing!"
Then two very humanoid-looking people, "beautiful, angelic people with these glass bulbs" came in with tight-fitting suits on and he said:
- “Oh my god! You guys are here to save me? Thank God!”
But they wouldn't talk with him. They just took him by the arm and they
escorted him out. He went down a ramp and then he said:
- "I was either in a hangar or I was in a big, huge another spaceship. I don't know, if it was a huge hanger on the ground or if it was another spaceship. But there were lots of discs of different sizes parked inside this hangar looking thing. But it was indoors!"
They escorted him out. They met with another, a woman. I said: “Well, how do you know it was a woman?” He said: “It was a woman! [She] had a glass bulb [on her head]”. They put something over his mouth and he kind of fought, but he said, he was weak. The next thing he knew, he woke up in a field and looked up and the disc was just leaving, departing and it was five days later!
