Thank you Arween, KJS, Mrs.Peel and ScioAgapeOmnis. I think I was hung up on openAI/chatGPT in particular because of its connection to Sam Altman. I see now that chatGPT, except for helping to dumb us down, could be just a bone they have thrown us and that there is a much larger apparatus in the background. I know it's been discussed on the forum so forgive me for throwing out my rather dumb question. I have watched the MatrixWell, as Arwenn said, they can make us overly rely on them at the expense of developing our own ability to think, remember, and do research, and therefore grow. Many people are already using it and trusting its answers blindly without doing any research, not even to verify what it said.
Or as KJS said - mass surveillance and a social credit system. See what Larry Ellison (who's spearheading the $500 billion AI project with Sam Altman) said:
I just wanted to add a few more items:
The AI is advancing at a rapid pace - it won't be long before it will be automating jobs rather than simply assisting you in your job. Companies will replace knowledge workers and eventually even blue collar workers with AI. When that happens what do all the unemployed people do? Depend on government to feed them as long as they "behave"?
Also - the AI is known to hallucinate and make stuff up and is therefore is not reliable or consistent even for things it does know - which compounds all of the issues above.
But AI can also be biased and programmed to say things that the developer wants, and to also remove information the developer doesn't want. The developer controls exactly what kind of information the AI sees when it is being trained - and what it doesn't see, and then they also control what it's allowed to say about all sorts of topics and how it will say it. So it is greatly censored, very much biased, and cut off from a lot of knowledge.
So combine mass surveillance to manage your behavior, mass unemployment, doing all the thinking/research for you, and lying/manipulating you while pretending to be truthful and objective, and you have a dumbed-down, propagandized, and reliant population.
There's probably a bunch of other stuff too - like I think the C's mentioned the possibility of 4D STS or other nefarious beings communicating/manipulating us through our AI. Them being the progenitors of the $500 billion project to make AI pervasive makes perfect sense if they can have direct control over it too.
And another item I just thought of - projects like Neuralink intend to literally insert a chip inside your body with AI on it, so it can have direct access to your brain. No better control/surveillance tool than a device literally in your brain. And unemployed people on government handouts will be compelled to do this "for their/societal safety" if they want to receive the handout.
Read this session for what the C's said about these plans back in 1994:
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Or perhaps the integration of science within consciousness. I go with the Newtonian, mechanical model explicit within current consensus reality as a first approximation in daily life. If everyone shares this admittedly partially false perception of reality then one must go with it - when in Rome do as the Romans do. If one walks along with head in the clouds one may trip and fall in the ditch. I know there is a more expansive and accurate description of reality but we must live in this false reality for now, even though the Wave is coming on fast. Soon we may be able to slip back and forth between 'reality models', and eventually discard the standard consensus in favor of a new consensus as it forms. For now, we are stuck in the 'Maya World', but knowing that it is an illusion and that a more accurate model is quickly coming currently works for me. When/if AI starts training on 4th density reality and beyond I imagine things will get very interesting.I agree with what the 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics, Alain Aspect, saying : the solutions to current problems can only come from science... Except that we must be aware that the future of science depends on the integration of consciousness within it.
Well, I've looked it up a bit, and it's not much better...Maybe this definition is more to your liking:
Or perhaps the integration of science within consciousness. I go with the Newtonian, mechanical model explicit within current consensus reality as a first approximation in daily life. If everyone shares this admittedly partially false perception of reality then one must go with it - when in Rome do as the Romans do. If one walks along with head in the clouds one may trip and fall in the ditch. I know there is a more expansive and accurate description of reality but we must live in this false reality for now, even though the Wave is coming on fast. Soon we may be able to slip back and forth between 'reality models', and eventually discard the standard consensus in favor of a new consensus as it forms. For now, we are stuck in the 'Maya World', but knowing that it is an illusion and that a more accurate model is quickly coming currently works for me. When/if AI starts training on 4th density reality and beyond I imagine things will get very interesting.
Well, the C's stated that the current success rate of the PTB plans is only about 4 out of 10. They also mentioned a "triple bad day" coming for them, etc.Are we all going to have live through this twisted reality where we are in the know of so much of whats going on, yet entirely powerless to do anything about it? AI controlling us, demogogues running our countries in to the ground, psychopaths using the law to destroy our health, billionaires extracting all of our resources and OP's who reinforce all of it, etc
I know the future is variable and all sorts of potential future's exist, but I am finding it quite difficult to carry any sort of optimism with all of this.
(Joe) Only a little bit. Trump stated this week, in his inauguration speech, that the next four years would be the greatest years in American history. How likely is this to be the case?
A: Not very.
Session Date: January 25th 2025
Laura and Andromeda at the board
Niall, Joe, Gaby, Ark, PoB, Chu, Scottie, Princess Leia, Bella, Falkor, The Lunar Module
FOTCM Members attending via Zoom:
3DStudent, A Jay, Adobe, aimarok, Alana, Alejo, Aliana, Altair, aluminumfalcon, Ana, Anamarija, anartist, Andrian, Approaching Infinity, aragorn, Arwenn, Aya, Beau, Beorn, Bluefyre, Bobo08, brandon, Breton, Carl, cassandra, Cosmos, Deliverance, dugdeep, Eboard10, Ellipse, Ennio, Fabric, Finduilas495 , France, Gawan, gottathink, goyacobol, Gwenllian, Harmony99, Herondancer, Hesper, hesperides, hlat, Honzap, iamthatis, irjO, Iscreamsandwish, Jacques, JEEP, Jefferson, Jenn, Josi, Juba, Keyhole, Kinyash, KJN, Konstantin, Laurs, Learner, lillyalic, Lilou, LQB, luc, Lucius, Luis Miguel, Maat, maiko, manitoban, Mari, Mark, Mark7, Martina, Michal, Mike, Mikkael, Mililea, Miracle, Mrs. Peel, msante, Natus Videre, Navigator, Nicholas, Nienna, Ollie, OrangeScorpion, Oxajil, PopHistorian, Puma, Ryan, rylek, ryu, Saman, ScioAgapeOmnis, seek10, seeker2seer, Steph_rivers, Stoneboss, sToRmR1dR, Summerlite, T.C., Timótheos, Tristan, Tuatha de Danaan, Voyageur, Vulcan59, whitecoast, Windmill knight, Yas, Z..., Zim
Q: (L) All right, so what does everybody think about all Trump's activities?
(Chu) Aliana gave us a thumbs up.
(Jefferson) Positive change, anyway.
(L) Yeah. He's doing, I mean, he's...
(Joe) He's gonna wreck the place.
(L) He's not going to wreck the place!
(Joe) He is. He's going to destroy Western civilization.
(Andromeda) Not on purpose.
(Joe) That's what's happening.
(Chu) Yeah. I'm afraid that's true.
(L) Why?
(Joe) He's basically in the process of undoing or dismantling structures that prop up Western civilization... that have been there for the past 300 years. You can't take that away and not have chaos.
(L) Well, look at what's-his-name Milei is doing in Argentina. [laughter]
(Gaby) Not a good example.
(Joe) Those vassals are no good on their own. They're not going to be happy. They're being kicked out of the house. They're like teenagers being kicked out of the house.
(L) So we're in big trouble, huh?
(Joe) Yeah. History will show that the actions Trump takes now over the next four years will be what led to the collapse of Western civilization. Not that it's his fault, but that's what...
(PoB) Europe has a good chance to sink.
(Joe) Anyway, carry on. That's just my prediction.
(L) The destruction of Western civilization.
(Joe) The dismantling, let's say.
(L) Oh!
(Andromeda) Well, it would've happened one way or another. At least this is a better way.
(L) Yeah, it was definitely going to happen. I mean, we expected it to. All right... Oh, as much as I dread this, I dread it tonight for some reason.
(Andromeda) You do?
(L) Yeah.
(Andromeda) Why?
(L) I don't know. Well, we'll just kind of start here.
A: Feets don't fail me now! Dionnaea of Cassiopaea.
Q: (L) All right. This is Saturday, January 25, 2025. First session of the year. Okay. So why did you say, "Feets don't fail me now"?
A: Your thought spectrum.
Q: (L) So in other words, my feeling that, "Oh boy. We're in trouble now!"
A: Yes
Q: (L) And we have to just keep going anyway. Alright... Let me get to the questions:
(PopHistorian) Why is Trump promoting the Stargate AI project with such priority and praise for its leaders?
A: Trump is easily misled by those of eloquent persuasion. Hopefully others will show him the facts.
Q: (Joe) He's a bit clueless.
Q: (PopHistorian) With whom did the Stargate idea truly originate?
(L) Is there some debate over that?
(Niall) It's probably what it looks like. It's Larry Ellison and Sam Altman.
(Joe) There's an assumption in the question that it's not only them.
(L) Okay. So there's an assumption.
A: As so many things, origins in 4D STS.
Q: (L) Okay.
(PopHistorian) For what true aim?
A: Total control of the population.
Q: (Joe) But they said in a previous session when talking about AI that the grid, etc. would collapse before they're able to actually implement that.
(L) Yeah. Okay.
(Joe) Tucker interviewed the mother of Suchir Balaji who worked as an engineer for Sam Altman building AI, until he decided that Altman was committing crimes. Balaji became a whistleblower, and soon after was found dead in his apartment. California authorities claim it was suicide. Crime scene photos clearly show a murder. In the interview, his mother said that he realized that openAI (for which he worked for a time) was in breach of copyright laws, but that that does not seem to her a likely reason why anyone would kill him. She suspects instead that he discovered something about openAI and certain abilities it had acquired. Why was Suchir killed?
A: He knew the ultimate objective.
Q: (L) So in other words, he knew that it was supposed to be for total control of people and that there were things that were worked into it that...
(Niall) Bent it that way.
(L) Yeah.
(Mari) What was the cause of the California fires?
A: DEWs [note: Directed Energy Weapons] in some cases. Arsonists in others.
Q: (Joe) So the arsonists were just LARPing arsonists - as in they weren't part of the plan?
(Niall) Or homeless crackheads.
A: Yes
Q: (L) But it also adds a confusion factor. I mean, everything they deal with, they always throw in so many things to confuse.
(Joe) What was the goal?
(Niall) Why zap L.A.?
(Joe) Yeah. Why do rich people get their houses burned by DEWs?
(Niall) Especially well-connected people on the team, like Kamala's house?
A: "Well connected" people are not as high on the food chain as they think.
Q: (L) Are any of them realizing this?
A: A few.
Q: (Joe) So was the purpose of starting the fire with DEWs... Were there at least two factors, one being the real estate...
A: Practice and retribution in a few cases. But mostly a terrifying demonstration.
Q: (L) So it was done to let people know that nobody is exempt? I mean, that even being a libtard doesn't exempt you?
(Joe) Well, it's a terrifying demonstration to obviously people who know that it was directed energy weapons, lasers, whatever. They'd be few and far between. So it's almost like some kind of insider fighting, let's say in a certain sense where one side is demonstrating to another side that...
(L) Is there insider fighting in any of these?
A: Small extent. "If L.A. can burn, no place is safe."
Q: (Niall) So who said that? Biden? No.
(L) Did somebody say that?
(Niall) Somebody must have, they're quoting. We can look it up.
(L) I don't know if they have to be quoting a specific person. They can be putting a quote around it just to say that...
(Gaby) This is the message.
(Joe) A message to who?
(Andromeda) Doesn't matter who you are, how much money you have; anybody can be a target.
(Joe) Well, they said it's a terrifying demonstration of power. So if it's a message to someone using that kind of space laser technology, then who is the message to? Because most people don't accept that.
A: You miss the point.
Q: (Andromeda) Maybe what they mean is not so much a demonstration of somebody's power, but a demonstration of somebody else's lack of ability to do anything about it, whether it's natural or wherever the source comes from.
(Joe) Yeah. Well, that's what I was thinking. I mean, it's just to terrorize the population and sow a sense of insecurity, and...
(Andromeda) Yeah, vulnerability.
(Joe) "The world is burning" type of thing.
(L) It increases just a lot of things just by, I mean, everybody felt kind of horrified by it.
(Andromeda) That something like that could happen and nobody could do anything about it.
(L) Well, and also it exposed - whether this was intentional or not - it exposed the shortcomings of the local government and the state government even, and exposed insurance companies. Those were side effects, but...
(T.C.) Who pulled the trigger? Who's the one who is firing the weapons?
A: CIA.
Q: (Joe) The CIA's got space lasers?
(Niall) But happening when it did, that only supports Trump. You know, the word on the street is all the rich folks in L.A. are now like all pro-Trump. They're so upset with the local response.
(L) Well, it's one of those things where the devil constantly intends evil and does good. I mean, all of the Trump lawfare for the past however many years going after Trump, all it has done is expose to the people at large how evil they are. We see this over and over again. They do stuff and then I mean, it is that wishful thinking.
(Chu) Okay, seek10 posted. He found the quote.
It is attributed to journalist and author Mike Davis. He's known for his critical social and political commentary, particularly related to urban development and issues in Los Angeles. This quote likely reflects the tense atmosphere during the 1992 Los Angeles riots highlighting the broader indications of urban unrest and systemic issues.
(L) So they were referring to something specific. Okay. Anything else you want to know about that topic before we move on?
(Niall) Well, if that's CIA... If that incident came right after the New Year's Eve incident in New Orleans with the vehicle, the ISIS set up. I presume that's CIA, we can ask, I guess. And then the Livelsberger guy with the Cybertruck blowing up outside the Trump Hotel in Las Vegas. That whole thing seemed to be a sequence...
(L) Yeah. It was like it was all connected.
Q: (Joe) Were both of those CIA operations as well? We assumed they were, but...
(L) The New Orleans and Las Vegas incidents, were they also CIA operations?
A: Yes
Q: (Andromeda) It was kind of like a streak of terror attacks.
(L) Just to, just trying to create...
(Joe) Chaos.
(L) Well, I wonder, were they trying or did they have in mind to create a situation so that before Trump could be inaugurated, they could declare martial law and stop the inauguration?
(Joe) They didn't act on that.
(L) But that didn't happen.
(Joe) So was the demonstration in a certain sense that this was CIA and these other two things were all of a piece, these other two events along with the fires, was the demonstration to essentially maybe to Trump, was it a warning to Trump in a certain sense? At least partly?
A: Partly.
Q: (L) But I mean, if Trump is easily taken in by people who are eloquent, he's also probably easily blind to obvious clues. Because I mean, that seemed to be one of his flaws in his previous term that, I mean, he gave Pompeo a position?? I mean, when he did that, Pompeo, for God's sake?! That was the dumbest thing I ever saw in my life. It's like just putting the fox in charge of the hen house!
(Joe) He's learned since then, though. He just removed Pompeo's security clearance.
(L) Yeah, I know. But the thing is, he's learned about specific cases, but is he able to transfer that knowledge in a more general way? I mean, probably the biggest revelation he could ever have would be if he could realize that he can't think with the way he thinks. He really needs advisors and a network. Next question is from aimarok... You had to do this, didn't you? I mean, are you trying to torture me?
(aimarok) Halton Arp, an American astronomer, found numerous examples where quasars physically connected to a neighbor galaxy exhibit much higher redshift values than the galaxy. Higher redshift is currently interpreted as higher relative velocity therefore as a greater distance from Earth, and this directly contradicts visual evidence. More than that he found that intrinsic redshift z values of quasars seem to be quantized. It seems that this data led Arp to hypothesize that particles in high redshift quasars have much lower mass than our local particles. He proposed that "young" quasars consist of "young" and "light" particles. As time passes (or as a quasar evolves) particles become heavier (in quanta) and redshift gets less (because of increased emitted/absorbed photon energy).
(Niall) And the question is: Yes or no? [laughter]
(aimarok) My questions were very short, but...
(L) I've got the questions here. You don't have to. I can read. [laughter]
(aimarok) What causes redshift phenomenon besides relative movement of objects away from each other?
A: Halton was going in the right direction, but he did not think of the "time" issue. Quasars have the ability to alter time in their immediate vicinity.
Q: (aimarok) What is the mechanism behind intrinsic redshift z values quantization found by Halton Arp?
A: SPA.
Q: (L) So it's time modification, time alteration. We learned something. Do you want to add to that? Does it make sense?
(aimarok) Okay. I don't have anything to add. Thanks.
(L) You'll have to think about it a while and then you'll come up with an equally complicated question for the next time. Right? [laughter]
(aimarok) Hmm. I hope not. [laughter]
(L) Oh, Lord, have mercy. [laughter]
(Ryan) Does that mean time is essentially quantized?
A: No.
Q: (T.C.) I guess we measure velocity or distance traveled based on units of time, right? So if the unit of time is different then something might be moving at the same speed, but the time's different rather than it's actually accelerating? I don't know. Just thinking out loud.
A: Close.
Q: (Approaching Infinity) Well, there was a few recent interviews with these guys called the Tedesco Brothers who are researching - they are engineers and scientists, brothers and twins, and they've got all kinds of gear set up in a camper van that they take out to Long Island and the area to find anomalies like orbs and stuff like that. And they put out a recent scientific paper where they hypothesized that some of the objects that they're seeing seem to show red and blue colors when they're either rotating towards or away from the observer. And they think that that's an artificial red shifting and blue shifting caused by a propulsion technology. So they call it like a gravitational lensing so that there's some kind of space-time metric engineering going on around the object, which causes it to look like there's redshift and blueshift. But that's just because what's actually happening is being filtered through a bubble around the craft. So what the answer right there made me think of is that these quasars, they're not actually moving as the redshift would suggest, but there's essentially a bubble that is acting like a lens that makes it look like they're moving faster or slower at various intervals or quanta. But I'm not a scientist...
(L) Well, that's kind of a comparable thing in an interesting way. I've always thought, and I think the C's kind of confirmed it at one point, that a lot of the objects that we see, UAPs (UFOs in the old style) are traveling in time, not necessarily in space. If you watch some of the videos of those things, there are some peculiar effects. I'm pretty sure I watched one video, I think it was in Montana, and it was like the object was at normal speed. It just looked like it went like that, but when it was slowed down, it stretched and then anchored and then stretched and anchored and stretched and anchored - almost like an inchworm. It was like, and it was really creepy, but yeah. All right, Aragorn, he's onto this thing about these Telepathy Tapes. Oh, wait a minute. Give me back our people. Yeah. What was wrong with the puppy Cassie?
(Approaching Infinity) She had just a seizure for 90 seconds yesterday and we're taking her to the vet on Wednesday.
(L) You haven't taken her yet?
(Approaching Infinity) No. No. The vets aren't very accessible in this area, but she's doing, she's back to normal. She's a hundred percent, so she should be fine.
(L) Did you look for ticks?
(Approaching Infinity) I haven't noticed any, but it's been freezing, so...
(L) That's one thing that can happen. A tick gets in a certain location, and I've had it happen to dogs before, and they can either have seizures or they can become paralyzed.
(Joe) They can be there for a long time.
(Approaching Infinity) Okay. We'll check her over. And especially maybe in her ears too.
(L) Everywhere. But the ones around the neck are the ones that usually cause those kinds of issues. All right. Where were we? Yes, we're onto this thing about the Telepathy Tapes podcast. How many of y'all have watched the Telepathy Tapes podcast? Besides aragorn? Anybody else watched them?
(3DStudent) I thought they were good. Yeah, I looked over aragorn's questions and they’re pretty much the same things I would ask.
Q: (L) Yeah?
(Jefferson) I watched them and I read aragorn's questions, but I wasn't that interested. I was kind of nonplussed. It didn't get me overly curious. It's like, okay, they've got this psychic stuff, whether it's true or not, just kind of one of those things that I wasn't really into... It didn't really grab me, but I didn't find it boring. I wasn't waving my hand at it.
(L) But you watched it, and did you find it credible?
(Jefferson) That's tough to say. It could have been. Parts of it were, but I have really no reason to doubt it, and I didn't know why people would make that up, so it was mildly interesting.
(L) All right.
(Approaching Infinity) I haven't watched the podcast, but I've watched several interviews with Dr. Powell and maybe one with the lady that does the podcast. And just my impression of Dr. Powell is that she's totally serious and seems like a trustworthy, reliable researcher, and she is very well familiar with all of the parapsychological research and studies. So she's the first to admit that the actual podcast, she doesn't think it proves telepathy for two reasons. One, she actually wants to set up actual controlled experiments with a lot of these kids. And two, the woman that did the podcast, Kai something, she wanted to choose new subjects - so subjects that hadn't worked with Dr. Powell at all before. So all of these kids were new kids that basically hadn't been tested very much. They just kind of discovered, or their parents had thought that they're demonstrating these abilities. But the kids that Dr. Powell had worked with previously, she's been working with them for years. So those are the kids that are probably going to be in a lot of her experiments that they're hopefully going to be doing for the documentary that they're planning. So the kids that she's actually been working with, the stories of them are a lot more solid than the ones in the Telepathy Tapes because a lot of the kids in the telepathy tapes, they still use touch and vocal back and forth with their parent or their facilitator. So that's why a lot of skeptics can look at it and say, "Oh, well, there's subliminal hints in the touches and in the talking." But the kids that Powell was working with before the podcast have all progressed to the point where they don't need any of that. So it will be a lot better of a demonstration of telepathy if they can replicate those in actual studies in the future.
Q: (L) Okay. Now, what was your general impression of the phenomenon? As far as being positive or negative?
(aragorn) Yes. I would like to quickly say why I thought it was interesting enough to ask about it, because we all read and heard about telepathy before, but since they were claiming almost 100% success rate, it sounded so astonishing. And as Approaching Infinity told about this researcher, I think that at least one of the kids on the podcast was one of her old subjects. So I think I'm very skeptical, like I'm trained by all of us to be skeptical, so I try to listen because it is just audio. I can't see anything. So I try to listen for hints that is there something suspicious, some red flags, and I just couldn't find those. You would expect some small things.
(L) So this was just audio, not video?
(aragorn) At least for me. If you pay some, well, you can say that's a bit suspicious, but if you go to their website, you can pay for a little fee to see the videos on the experiments. But I guess they're asking for that because they are going to do a documentary and they need funding. But anyway, the most suspicious thing if I had to choose was as I wrote that these autistic kids had "visitations" at night by "teachers" as they called them. There was a rabbi who taught Hebrew to one kid and some Egyptian god that taught hieroglyphs and something and some amazing knowledge, and one kid told she visited God at night and something like that. So that felt a little bit like STS meddling or something.
(L) Jefferson, did you see the videos?
(Jefferson) No, mainly I just listened. There were some, I didn't watch a hundred percent of. I watched about 70 percent and I lost interest, but there was an audio, there was some showing some video. There was one of those video things there that showed some of the people or how they had their notepads and stuff like that. So a mix of video and audio. So...
(aragorn) Yeah, one or two are available freely.
(Approaching Infinity) And there are several clips in various YouTube videos that they've made available or incorporated into other media. So the interview that Powell did with Jesse Michaels has probably, I'm guessing 10 to 15 minutes of direct clips.
(aragorn) Yeah, I saw that too.
(L) All right then... Did they bring forth any knowledge or any new knowledge or anything beneficial to humanity? Or was this...?
(aragorn) Well, that's the thing that the presenter or the producer appeared a bit naive in the sense that she was pushing hope on these kids to save humanity. They are going to bring this amazing information.
(Joe) Ya know what it sounds like to me? Indigo Children.
(aragorn) Yeah.
(L) Did the child that learned Hebrew demonstrate facility in Hebrew on the audio?
(aragorn) Yes. And several other things were confirmed by the teachers, like math and language teachers, and I can't remember some other expertise. They suddenly had this, like, downloaded this expertise in one night or something.
(L) All right. Let's get on with the questions then.
(aragorn) Are the stories and examples of the psychic abilities of the non-speakers on the Telepathy tapes podcast? True.
A: True enough as far as they go.
Q: (L) What does that mean?
(Joe) Maybe it means that there's some telepathy going on with these kids or whatever, but...
(L) Is there some telepathy going on with these kids?
A: Yes
Q: (aragorn) Are these abilities a direct result of their condition?
(L) That is, they are autistic, right?
(aragorn) Yeah.
(L) Is it a direct result of their condition?
A: No.
Q: (aragorn) Did they just happen to inherit certain genes?
A: No. Modified in the womb.
Q: (L) Modified by who? By who?
A: 4D STS. Who else?
Q: (aragorn) Do most autistic non-speakers have these abilities?
A: A large number, yes. But genetic modification is problematic.
Q: (L) Why is the genetic modification problematic?
A: If ensouled that can modify the modifications.
Q: (L) Are you suggesting that not all of them are ensouled?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So if they're not ensouled, if they're like OPs, then the genetic modification works. Is that it?
A: Yes.
Q: (Joe) Why are they modified in the womb by 4D STS to have these abilities? What's the point of modifying them?
A: Preparation for coming changes.
Q: (Joe) They'll turn them into minions.
(aragorn) The non-physical place, The Hill, where these non-speakers say they meet regularly to communicate sounds a lot like a locus in fifth density. Is this an accurate assessment?
A: No. Abducted to 4D.
Q: (aragorn) Many of the non-speakers talk about teachers coming to them at night to teach various things like new languages. One said she had learned Hebrew from a rabbi, and another said he had learned Egyptian hieroglyphics from a God. Who or what are these teachers?
A: Typical abduction experiences.
Q: (L) So they're being abducted by aliens and taught stuff.
(Niall) Presumably their parents were...
(Joe) It is very similar to the UFO lore about abductions and impregnating... the Cs have talked in previous sessions about creating a new race, and all that kind of stuff. But is the fact that they're autistic a function of the genetic modification, or is their autism a function of something else?
A: Accessibility portal.
Q: (Gaby) So do these children have a soul or not?
(L) We already covered that. They said if they're ensouled, it can modify the modifications. But if they are OPs, the modifications hold.
(Joe) Did we ever ask what the general cause of autism in kids is?
(L) What is the general cause of autism?
A: Vaccines.
Q: (L) So in other words, a large number of kids are being made autistic by vaccines, which then makes them susceptible or accessible to 4D STS. Is that it?
A: Yes.
Q: (T.C.) The funny thing is... I've just been thinking about that over the last minute or two, and the problem is that these kids were tampered with whilst still in the womb, and vaccines are obviously given after the kids are born. So it must be a different method.
(L) Yeah, so...
(irjO) I've got a follow up question: If they have a soul and that can modify the modifications, can they connect with the STO side?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So, vaccines cause the autism, but their psychic abilities are related to genetic modifications, yes?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So, does that mean that there are individuals who have been genetically modified in this manner who are not autistic?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) A can of worms!
(Joe) These children who I suppose will grow into adults, what purpose are they to serve post changes? Are they meant to be soldiers of...
A: They can be hosts for 4D beings.
Q: (L) Like walk-ins, sort of?
A: Yes
Q: (Niall) Like Zuckerberg. [laughter]]
(Andromeda) He's an undergrounder. [laughter]]
(Joe) So that's probably the primary goal of the genetic notification, to provide that functionality of being walk-ins and the telepathic abilities are a function of that genetic modification, which is almost not important.
(L) They're basically souping up the model. They're making a souped up model that they can utilize and has already the ability for telepathy, which benefits...
(aragorn) Can I add something?
(L) Yes.
(aragorn) I was just thinking that many of these kids with these abilities said that they could super easily read people's minds. And not just their mothers', but some say that they could read all people's minds. So that could be a channel to download information and send it to the guys upstairs.
A: Yes.
Q: (T.C.) Does this have anything to do with what we were talking about in terms of communicating with grays? Or when we were talking about the AI program and that they used people with telepathic abilities to mentally block when they were dealing with aliens. Are these kids being made like this for that kind of purpose, or...?
A: Can be.
Q: (L) Okay, next question.
(T.C.) What were those guys that Hunter and Jay had an encounter with?
[See interview here: If the Chaos Gets Worse (And It Will) How to Survive]
A: A variation on men in black.
Q: (L) Well that's creepy... Alright, Approaching Infinity and Joe together are asking about the 4 November, 1995 session when they talk about literal elevators that can take you from one density to another:
(Approaching Infinity & Joe) How can you have a literal elevator that can take a person from 3D to 5D?
A: Don't think of it as an elevator such as those who are familiar with. Think of it as a high tech version of "Beam me up, Scottie." [laughter]
Q: (Joe) "Beam me up, Scottie" is already super high tech! Can't go any higher tech than that!
(L) So, in other words, it would be like an elevator that you would get into, and it would be high tech, and it would demolecularize you and remolecularize you, or something like that?
A: Yes.
Q: (Joe) Or not remolecularize you and just your soul, or whatever, goes to 5D. Because the reason we asked the question was because how can you go...? It's not a physical realm. You can't go in a physical elevator. You can't step into an elevator on 3D as a person and take an elevator to 5D. First of all, the elevator can't be in 5D because it's physical, you can't be either because you're physical. So how would that actually happen? But obviously it's super high tech. So, forget about it.
(iscreamsandwich) In the session from 23 November, 2024...
(L) I guess we must've been talking about Pierre...
(iscreamsandwich) What would be the most effective method of reaching those levels of the subconscious mind?
A: Hypnosis can work.
Q: (L) All right. Is that it?
(Chu) Yep, that's the end.
(Joe) Trump...
(L) You want to talk about Trump again?
(Joe) Only a little bit. Trump stated this week, in his inauguration speech, that the next four years would be the greatest years in American history. How likely is this to be the case?
A: Not very.
Q: (Joe) That's what I thought. And has Trump been told what the New Jersey drones probes were really about? Has he been given the truth?
A: No.
Q: (Joe) Okay. And in the previous session I asked, "Do a lot of members of government know?" And I think they said yes. But we're not talking about common or garden variety members... I mean, it's selective in terms of who's told. Is that true?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Probably the really deep, dark, black budget people or something.
(Joe) And so Trump isn't interested or... I mean, I just find it hard to imagine that someone like him, or any of them, would just happily carry on.
(L) Well, I think maybe Trump is... About the drones, he's like Jefferson is about these autistic kids, not particularly attracted or interested. And we're all that way. There are some things that grab us and attract and interest us, and things that don't. And I don't think Trump is that interested in it.
(Joe) But it has a direct... I mean, we're talking about unknown drones that they can't shoot down, can't do anything about over military bases, over nuclear bases, etcetera. And the entire US military can't do anything about it. They're impotent in the face of it, which immediately implies a higher power.
(L) But Trump doesn't think that. He thinks that this... I bet he thinks that it's just some activity going on that's very prosaic. I mean, look at Elon Musk! The guy wants to go to Mars, and he's not really interested enough in the whole UFO/UAP thing to explore it thoroughly.
(Joe) Maybe we should ask, is Musk being honest when he says...
(L) Is Musk being honest when he doesn't really have that much interest in UFO...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) To me, it staggers my mind.
(Joe) Especially for someone of his inclination.
(L) And he talks about when he has downtime, he plays video games. I mean, he could be reading and researching stuff, but he doesn't. And Trump is not a reader either. It is hard for most of us to really grasp that.
(Chu) I think for both of them, as much as they may care up to a certain point, or at least Trump, it's also about the ego and what they can do quickly and stuff.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Yeah, he and Elon and others like that are very pragmatic and interested in what they can...
(Chu) And the fame too.
(L) Yeah, exactly. They're interested in things that they can cope with and deal with and have an effect on. And if it has the least little hint of being out of their control, such as higher intelligences or higher things, they don't want to know. They don't want to know. If you look at Steve Mithen's theory [in his book The Prehistory of the Mind], where the mind is like a Swiss army knife... they don't have that part of their mind developed enough. And it is a very bad thing for ultimate survival, because it's been shown the people who do have that do connecting ability...
(Joe)... that inquiring mind...
(Niall) So, does Trump not really believe that a higher power intervened to save him last July? Is he just saying that?
(Joe) Well, that's separate, that's religion, that's God. Anybody can believe in God.
(L) But that's packaged, you see?
(Andromeda) It's known.
(Chu) And he probably really believes it, because it makes him feel special.
(Joe) I'm talking about the implications that these drones... these are things that could potentially pose a direct conflict, or have a direct implication on his ability to run the country. The existence of God doesn't influence his ability to run the country. God isn't going to come and stop him imposing certain policies or interfere with his...
(Niall) Well, God is the only reason he's still running the country, but he doesn't know that. Okay.
(L) It is a very particular type of mindset, and it's everywhere.
(Joe) There's a new so-called new Embassy that the US has been building for the past few years in Beirut. It covers 43 acres and will house 5,000 people. It's clearly not a standard embassy, based on America's other embassies around the world. It's massive. So what else is it going to be used for, or what's the intention?
A: Military, what else?
Q: (Joe) So it's a military base masquerading as an embassy.
(L) Yeah, without being a publicly advertised military base.
(Niall) Oh yeah, it's the second biggest one to the one in Baghdad. So the US is not leaving the Middle East any time soon.
(L) All right. Are we done?
(Chu) There's a few short questions on the chat, but only if you want them.
(Altair, Cosmos, Gawan) How likely is the war in Ukraine to end this year?
A: Very.
Q: (Caesarea) Ennio wants to ask what happened in Syria.
(L) What do you mean what happened in Syria? That's kind of like a real general, broad question.
(Ennio) Yeah. So there was some talk that there was a plan in place to have Assad leave possibly just as, or just around the time that HTS came to power. So was there in fact some plan in place or agreement made, or is what we saw just what happened, that basically they were overrun?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) I think they meant yes to the last part.
(Niall) There was a terrible plane crash in South Korea on December 29th. It looks like the landing gear just fell to drop and it crashed into a kind of a barrier at the end of the runway. But we've since learned that the black boxes are missing their last four minutes of data.
(Joe) And that happened within 24 hours of two other anomalous events. One was a landing gear problem. Other planes had a difficult landing, let's say. So, go ahead. Just to put that in context. So the question is, was the South Korea crash...
(Niall) deliberate?
(Joe) Yes. Was it plain sabotage in some way or another?
A: Yes.
Q: (Niall) Why?
A: Look into passengers.
Q: (L) Okay. Are we done now?
(Niall) Yes.
(L) All right. I'm tired. Is there anything we should have asked that we didn't ask? I know, God, that's such a cheesy question. [laughter]] Put it this way: Is there anything that you can offer to us that we haven't thought about to ask, that would be helpful to us, that we're allowed to have, that doesn't violate our free will?
A: We said that things would be thrilling. It is just warming up. Goodbye.
Q: (L) I don't like the sound of that.
(Andromeda) That's a bit ominous.
(L) That's creepy.
END OF SESSION
SuperSession Date: January 25th 2025
Laura and Andromeda at the board
Niall, Joe, Gaby, Ark, PoB, Chu, Scottie, Princess Leia, Bella, Falkor, The Lunar Module
FOTCM Members attending via Zoom:
3DStudent, A Jay, Adobe, aimarok, Alana, Alejo, Aliana, Altair, aluminumfalcon, Ana, Anamarija, anartist, Andrian, Approaching Infinity, aragorn, Arwenn, Aya, Beau, Beorn, Bluefyre, Bobo08, brandon, Breton, Carl, cassandra, Cosmos, Deliverance, dugdeep, Eboard10, Ellipse, Ennio, Fabric, Finduilas495 , France, Gawan, gottathink, goyacobol, Gwenllian, Harmony99, Herondancer, Hesper, hesperides, hlat, Honzap, iamthatis, irjO, Iscreamsandwish, Jacques, JEEP, Jefferson, Jenn, Josi, Juba, Keyhole, Kinyash, KJN, Konstantin, Laurs, Learner, lillyalic, Lilou, LQB, luc, Lucius, Luis Miguel, Maat, maiko, manitoban, Mari, Mark, Mark7, Martina, Michal, Mike, Mikkael, Mililea, Miracle, Mrs. Peel, msante, Natus Videre, Navigator, Nicholas, Nienna, Ollie, OrangeScorpion, Oxajil, PopHistorian, Puma, Ryan, rylek, ryu, Saman, ScioAgapeOmnis, seek10, seeker2seer, Steph_rivers, Stoneboss, sToRmR1dR, Summerlite, T.C., Timótheos, Tristan, Tuatha de Danaan, Voyageur, Vulcan59, whitecoast, Windmill knight, Yas, Z..., Zim
Q: (L) All right, so what does everybody think about all Trump's activities?
(Chu) Aliana gave us a thumbs up.
(Jefferson) Positive change, anyway.
(L) Yeah. He's doing, I mean, he's...
(Joe) He's gonna wreck the place.
(L) He's not going to wreck the place!
(Joe) He is. He's going to destroy Western civilization.
(Andromeda) Not on purpose.
(Joe) That's what's happening.
(Chu) Yeah. I'm afraid that's true.
(L) Why?
(Joe) He's basically in the process of undoing or dismantling structures that prop up Western civilization... that have been there for the past 300 years. You can't take that away and not have chaos.
(L) Well, look at what's-his-name Milei is doing in Argentina. [laughter]
(Gaby) Not a good example.
(Joe) Those vassals are no good on their own. They're not going to be happy. They're being kicked out of the house. They're like teenagers being kicked out of the house.
(L) So we're in big trouble, huh?
(Joe) Yeah. History will show that the actions Trump takes now over the next four years will be what led to the collapse of Western civilization. Not that it's his fault, but that's what...
(PoB) Europe has a good chance to sink.
(Joe) Anyway, carry on. That's just my prediction.
(L) The destruction of Western civilization.
(Joe) The dismantling, let's say.
(L) Oh!
(Andromeda) Well, it would've happened one way or another. At least this is a better way.
(L) Yeah, it was definitely going to happen. I mean, we expected it to. All right... Oh, as much as I dread this, I dread it tonight for some reason.
(Andromeda) You do?
(L) Yeah.
(Andromeda) Why?
(L) I don't know. Well, we'll just kind of start here.
A: Feets don't fail me now! Dionnaea of Cassiopaea.
Q: (L) All right. This is Saturday, January 25, 2025. First session of the year. Okay. So why did you say, "Feets don't fail me now"?
A: Your thought spectrum.
Q: (L) So in other words, my feeling that, "Oh boy. We're in trouble now!"
A: Yes
Q: (L) And we have to just keep going anyway. Alright... Let me get to the questions:
(PopHistorian) Why is Trump promoting the Stargate AI project with such priority and praise for its leaders?
A: Trump is easily misled by those of eloquent persuasion. Hopefully others will show him the facts.
Q: (Joe) He's a bit clueless.
Q: (PopHistorian) With whom did the Stargate idea truly originate?
(L) Is there some debate over that?
(Niall) It's probably what it looks like. It's Larry Ellison and Sam Altman.
(Joe) There's an assumption in the question that it's not only them.
(L) Okay. So there's an assumption.
A: As so many things, origins in 4D STS.
Q: (L) Okay.
(PopHistorian) For what true aim?
A: Total control of the population.
Q: (Joe) But they said in a previous session when talking about AI that the grid, etc. would collapse before they're able to actually implement that.
(L) Yeah. Okay.
(Joe) Tucker interviewed the mother of Suchir Balaji who worked as an engineer for Sam Altman building AI, until he decided that Altman was committing crimes. Balaji became a whistleblower, and soon after was found dead in his apartment. California authorities claim it was suicide. Crime scene photos clearly show a murder. In the interview, his mother said that he realized that openAI (for which he worked for a time) was in breach of copyright laws, but that that does not seem to her a likely reason why anyone would kill him. She suspects instead that he discovered something about openAI and certain abilities it had acquired. Why was Suchir killed?
A: He knew the ultimate objective.
Q: (L) So in other words, he knew that it was supposed to be for total control of people and that there were things that were worked into it that...
(Niall) Bent it that way.
(L) Yeah.
(Mari) What was the cause of the California fires?
A: DEWs [note: Directed Energy Weapons] in some cases. Arsonists in others.
Q: (Joe) So the arsonists were just LARPing arsonists - as in they weren't part of the plan?
(Niall) Or homeless crackheads.
A: Yes
Q: (L) But it also adds a confusion factor. I mean, everything they deal with, they always throw in so many things to confuse.
(Joe) What was the goal?
(Niall) Why zap L.A.?
(Joe) Yeah. Why do rich people get their houses burned by DEWs?
(Niall) Especially well-connected people on the team, like Kamala's house?
A: "Well connected" people are not as high on the food chain as they think.
Q: (L) Are any of them realizing this?
A: A few.
Q: (Joe) So was the purpose of starting the fire with DEWs... Were there at least two factors, one being the real estate...
A: Practice and retribution in a few cases. But mostly a terrifying demonstration.
Q: (L) So it was done to let people know that nobody is exempt? I mean, that even being a libtard doesn't exempt you?
(Joe) Well, it's a terrifying demonstration to obviously people who know that it was directed energy weapons, lasers, whatever. They'd be few and far between. So it's almost like some kind of insider fighting, let's say in a certain sense where one side is demonstrating to another side that...
(L) Is there insider fighting in any of these?
A: Small extent. "If L.A. can burn, no place is safe."
Q: (Niall) So who said that? Biden? No.
(L) Did somebody say that?
(Niall) Somebody must have, they're quoting. We can look it up.
(L) I don't know if they have to be quoting a specific person. They can be putting a quote around it just to say that...
(Gaby) This is the message.
(Joe) A message to who?
(Andromeda) Doesn't matter who you are, how much money you have; anybody can be a target.
(Joe) Well, they said it's a terrifying demonstration of power. So if it's a message to someone using that kind of space laser technology, then who is the message to? Because most people don't accept that.
A: You miss the point.
Q: (Andromeda) Maybe what they mean is not so much a demonstration of somebody's power, but a demonstration of somebody else's lack of ability to do anything about it, whether it's natural or wherever the source comes from.
(Joe) Yeah. Well, that's what I was thinking. I mean, it's just to terrorize the population and sow a sense of insecurity, and...
(Andromeda) Yeah, vulnerability.
(Joe) "The world is burning" type of thing.
(L) It increases just a lot of things just by, I mean, everybody felt kind of horrified by it.
(Andromeda) That something like that could happen and nobody could do anything about it.
(L) Well, and also it exposed - whether this was intentional or not - it exposed the shortcomings of the local government and the state government even, and exposed insurance companies. Those were side effects, but...
(T.C.) Who pulled the trigger? Who's the one who is firing the weapons?
A: CIA.
Q: (Joe) The CIA's got space lasers?
(Niall) But happening when it did, that only supports Trump. You know, the word on the street is all the rich folks in L.A. are now like all pro-Trump. They're so upset with the local response.
(L) Well, it's one of those things where the devil constantly intends evil and does good. I mean, all of the Trump lawfare for the past however many years going after Trump, all it has done is expose to the people at large how evil they are. We see this over and over again. They do stuff and then I mean, it is that wishful thinking.
(Chu) Okay, seek10 posted. He found the quote.
It is attributed to journalist and author Mike Davis. He's known for his critical social and political commentary, particularly related to urban development and issues in Los Angeles. This quote likely reflects the tense atmosphere during the 1992 Los Angeles riots highlighting the broader indications of urban unrest and systemic issues.
(L) So they were referring to something specific. Okay. Anything else you want to know about that topic before we move on?
(Niall) Well, if that's CIA... If that incident came right after the New Year's Eve incident in New Orleans with the vehicle, the ISIS set up. I presume that's CIA, we can ask, I guess. And then the Livelsberger guy with the Cybertruck blowing up outside the Trump Hotel in Las Vegas. That whole thing seemed to be a sequence...
(L) Yeah. It was like it was all connected.
Q: (Joe) Were both of those CIA operations as well? We assumed they were, but...
(L) The New Orleans and Las Vegas incidents, were they also CIA operations?
A: Yes
Q: (Andromeda) It was kind of like a streak of terror attacks.
(L) Just to, just trying to create...
(Joe) Chaos.
(L) Well, I wonder, were they trying or did they have in mind to create a situation so that before Trump could be inaugurated, they could declare martial law and stop the inauguration?
(Joe) They didn't act on that.
(L) But that didn't happen.
(Joe) So was the demonstration in a certain sense that this was CIA and these other two things were all of a piece, these other two events along with the fires, was the demonstration to essentially maybe to Trump, was it a warning to Trump in a certain sense? At least partly?
A: Partly.
Q: (L) But I mean, if Trump is easily taken in by people who are eloquent, he's also probably easily blind to obvious clues. Because I mean, that seemed to be one of his flaws in his previous term that, I mean, he gave Pompeo a position?? I mean, when he did that, Pompeo, for God's sake?! That was the dumbest thing I ever saw in my life. It's like just putting the fox in charge of the hen house!
(Joe) He's learned since then, though. He just removed Pompeo's security clearance.
(L) Yeah, I know. But the thing is, he's learned about specific cases, but is he able to transfer that knowledge in a more general way? I mean, probably the biggest revelation he could ever have would be if he could realize that he can't think with the way he thinks. He really needs advisors and a network. Next question is from aimarok... You had to do this, didn't you? I mean, are you trying to torture me?
(aimarok) Halton Arp, an American astronomer, found numerous examples where quasars physically connected to a neighbor galaxy exhibit much higher redshift values than the galaxy. Higher redshift is currently interpreted as higher relative velocity therefore as a greater distance from Earth, and this directly contradicts visual evidence. More than that he found that intrinsic redshift z values of quasars seem to be quantized. It seems that this data led Arp to hypothesize that particles in high redshift quasars have much lower mass than our local particles. He proposed that "young" quasars consist of "young" and "light" particles. As time passes (or as a quasar evolves) particles become heavier (in quanta) and redshift gets less (because of increased emitted/absorbed photon energy).
(Niall) And the question is: Yes or no? [laughter]
(aimarok) My questions were very short, but...
(L) I've got the questions here. You don't have to. I can read. [laughter]
(aimarok) What causes redshift phenomenon besides relative movement of objects away from each other?
A: Halton was going in the right direction, but he did not think of the "time" issue. Quasars have the ability to alter time in their immediate vicinity.
Q: (aimarok) What is the mechanism behind intrinsic redshift z values quantization found by Halton Arp?
A: SPA.
Q: (L) So it's time modification, time alteration. We learned something. Do you want to add to that? Does it make sense?
(aimarok) Okay. I don't have anything to add. Thanks.
(L) You'll have to think about it a while and then you'll come up with an equally complicated question for the next time. Right? [laughter]
(aimarok) Hmm. I hope not. [laughter]
(L) Oh, Lord, have mercy. [laughter]
(Ryan) Does that mean time is essentially quantized?
A: No.
Q: (T.C.) I guess we measure velocity or distance traveled based on units of time, right? So if the unit of time is different then something might be moving at the same speed, but the time's different rather than it's actually accelerating? I don't know. Just thinking out loud.
A: Close.
Q: (Approaching Infinity) Well, there was a few recent interviews with these guys called the Tedesco Brothers who are researching - they are engineers and scientists, brothers and twins, and they've got all kinds of gear set up in a camper van that they take out to Long Island and the area to find anomalies like orbs and stuff like that. And they put out a recent scientific paper where they hypothesized that some of the objects that they're seeing seem to show red and blue colors when they're either rotating towards or away from the observer. And they think that that's an artificial red shifting and blue shifting caused by a propulsion technology. So they call it like a gravitational lensing so that there's some kind of space-time metric engineering going on around the object, which causes it to look like there's redshift and blueshift. But that's just because what's actually happening is being filtered through a bubble around the craft. So what the answer right there made me think of is that these quasars, they're not actually moving as the redshift would suggest, but there's essentially a bubble that is acting like a lens that makes it look like they're moving faster or slower at various intervals or quanta. But I'm not a scientist...
(L) Well, that's kind of a comparable thing in an interesting way. I've always thought, and I think the C's kind of confirmed it at one point, that a lot of the objects that we see, UAPs (UFOs in the old style) are traveling in time, not necessarily in space. If you watch some of the videos of those things, there are some peculiar effects. I'm pretty sure I watched one video, I think it was in Montana, and it was like the object was at normal speed. It just looked like it went like that, but when it was slowed down, it stretched and then anchored and then stretched and anchored and stretched and anchored - almost like an inchworm. It was like, and it was really creepy, but yeah. All right, Aragorn, he's onto this thing about these Telepathy Tapes. Oh, wait a minute. Give me back our people. Yeah. What was wrong with the puppy Cassie?
(Approaching Infinity) She had just a seizure for 90 seconds yesterday and we're taking her to the vet on Wednesday.
(L) You haven't taken her yet?
(Approaching Infinity) No. No. The vets aren't very accessible in this area, but she's doing, she's back to normal. She's a hundred percent, so she should be fine.
(L) Did you look for ticks?
(Approaching Infinity) I haven't noticed any, but it's been freezing, so...
(L) That's one thing that can happen. A tick gets in a certain location, and I've had it happen to dogs before, and they can either have seizures or they can become paralyzed.
(Joe) They can be there for a long time.
(Approaching Infinity) Okay. We'll check her over. And especially maybe in her ears too.
(L) Everywhere. But the ones around the neck are the ones that usually cause those kinds of issues. All right. Where were we? Yes, we're onto this thing about the Telepathy Tapes podcast. How many of y'all have watched the Telepathy Tapes podcast? Besides aragorn? Anybody else watched them?
(3DStudent) I thought they were good. Yeah, I looked over aragorn's questions and they’re pretty much the same things I would ask.
Q: (L) Yeah?
(Jefferson) I watched them and I read aragorn's questions, but I wasn't that interested. I was kind of nonplussed. It didn't get me overly curious. It's like, okay, they've got this psychic stuff, whether it's true or not, just kind of one of those things that I wasn't really into... It didn't really grab me, but I didn't find it boring. I wasn't waving my hand at it.
(L) But you watched it, and did you find it credible?
(Jefferson) That's tough to say. It could have been. Parts of it were, but I have really no reason to doubt it, and I didn't know why people would make that up, so it was mildly interesting.
(L) All right.
(Approaching Infinity) I haven't watched the podcast, but I've watched several interviews with Dr. Powell and maybe one with the lady that does the podcast. And just my impression of Dr. Powell is that she's totally serious and seems like a trustworthy, reliable researcher, and she is very well familiar with all of the parapsychological research and studies. So she's the first to admit that the actual podcast, she doesn't think it proves telepathy for two reasons. One, she actually wants to set up actual controlled experiments with a lot of these kids. And two, the woman that did the podcast, Kai something, she wanted to choose new subjects - so subjects that hadn't worked with Dr. Powell at all before. So all of these kids were new kids that basically hadn't been tested very much. They just kind of discovered, or their parents had thought that they're demonstrating these abilities. But the kids that Dr. Powell had worked with previously, she's been working with them for years. So those are the kids that are probably going to be in a lot of her experiments that they're hopefully going to be doing for the documentary that they're planning. So the kids that she's actually been working with, the stories of them are a lot more solid than the ones in the Telepathy Tapes because a lot of the kids in the telepathy tapes, they still use touch and vocal back and forth with their parent or their facilitator. So that's why a lot of skeptics can look at it and say, "Oh, well, there's subliminal hints in the touches and in the talking." But the kids that Powell was working with before the podcast have all progressed to the point where they don't need any of that. So it will be a lot better of a demonstration of telepathy if they can replicate those in actual studies in the future.
Q: (L) Okay. Now, what was your general impression of the phenomenon? As far as being positive or negative?
(aragorn) Yes. I would like to quickly say why I thought it was interesting enough to ask about it, because we all read and heard about telepathy before, but since they were claiming almost 100% success rate, it sounded so astonishing. And as Approaching Infinity told about this researcher, I think that at least one of the kids on the podcast was one of her old subjects. So I think I'm very skeptical, like I'm trained by all of us to be skeptical, so I try to listen because it is just audio. I can't see anything. So I try to listen for hints that is there something suspicious, some red flags, and I just couldn't find those. You would expect some small things.
(L) So this was just audio, not video?
(aragorn) At least for me. If you pay some, well, you can say that's a bit suspicious, but if you go to their website, you can pay for a little fee to see the videos on the experiments. But I guess they're asking for that because they are going to do a documentary and they need funding. But anyway, the most suspicious thing if I had to choose was as I wrote that these autistic kids had "visitations" at night by "teachers" as they called them. There was a rabbi who taught Hebrew to one kid and some Egyptian god that taught hieroglyphs and something and some amazing knowledge, and one kid told she visited God at night and something like that. So that felt a little bit like STS meddling or something.
(L) Jefferson, did you see the videos?
(Jefferson) No, mainly I just listened. There were some, I didn't watch a hundred percent of. I watched about 70 percent and I lost interest, but there was an audio, there was some showing some video. There was one of those video things there that showed some of the people or how they had their notepads and stuff like that. So a mix of video and audio. So...
(aragorn) Yeah, one or two are available freely.
(Approaching Infinity) And there are several clips in various YouTube videos that they've made available or incorporated into other media. So the interview that Powell did with Jesse Michaels has probably, I'm guessing 10 to 15 minutes of direct clips.
(aragorn) Yeah, I saw that too.
(L) All right then... Did they bring forth any knowledge or any new knowledge or anything beneficial to humanity? Or was this...?
(aragorn) Well, that's the thing that the presenter or the producer appeared a bit naive in the sense that she was pushing hope on these kids to save humanity. They are going to bring this amazing information.
(Joe) Ya know what it sounds like to me? Indigo Children.
(aragorn) Yeah.
(L) Did the child that learned Hebrew demonstrate facility in Hebrew on the audio?
(aragorn) Yes. And several other things were confirmed by the teachers, like math and language teachers, and I can't remember some other expertise. They suddenly had this, like, downloaded this expertise in one night or something.
(L) All right. Let's get on with the questions then.
(aragorn) Are the stories and examples of the psychic abilities of the non-speakers on the Telepathy tapes podcast? True.
A: True enough as far as they go.
Q: (L) What does that mean?
(Joe) Maybe it means that there's some telepathy going on with these kids or whatever, but...
(L) Is there some telepathy going on with these kids?
A: Yes
Q: (aragorn) Are these abilities a direct result of their condition?
(L) That is, they are autistic, right?
(aragorn) Yeah.
(L) Is it a direct result of their condition?
A: No.
Q: (aragorn) Did they just happen to inherit certain genes?
A: No. Modified in the womb.
Q: (L) Modified by who? By who?
A: 4D STS. Who else?
Q: (aragorn) Do most autistic non-speakers have these abilities?
A: A large number, yes. But genetic modification is problematic.
Q: (L) Why is the genetic modification problematic?
A: If ensouled that can modify the modifications.
Q: (L) Are you suggesting that not all of them are ensouled?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So if they're not ensouled, if they're like OPs, then the genetic modification works. Is that it?
A: Yes.
Q: (Joe) Why are they modified in the womb by 4D STS to have these abilities? What's the point of modifying them?
A: Preparation for coming changes.
Q: (Joe) They'll turn them into minions.
(aragorn) The non-physical place, The Hill, where these non-speakers say they meet regularly to communicate sounds a lot like a locus in fifth density. Is this an accurate assessment?
A: No. Abducted to 4D.
Q: (aragorn) Many of the non-speakers talk about teachers coming to them at night to teach various things like new languages. One said she had learned Hebrew from a rabbi, and another said he had learned Egyptian hieroglyphics from a God. Who or what are these teachers?
A: Typical abduction experiences.
Q: (L) So they're being abducted by aliens and taught stuff.
(Niall) Presumably their parents were...
(Joe) It is very similar to the UFO lore about abductions and impregnating... the Cs have talked in previous sessions about creating a new race, and all that kind of stuff. But is the fact that they're autistic a function of the genetic modification, or is their autism a function of something else?
A: Accessibility portal.
Q: (Gaby) So do these children have a soul or not?
(L) We already covered that. They said if they're ensouled, it can modify the modifications. But if they are OPs, the modifications hold.
(Joe) Did we ever ask what the general cause of autism in kids is?
(L) What is the general cause of autism?
A: Vaccines.
Q: (L) So in other words, a large number of kids are being made autistic by vaccines, which then makes them susceptible or accessible to 4D STS. Is that it?
A: Yes.
Q: (T.C.) The funny thing is... I've just been thinking about that over the last minute or two, and the problem is that these kids were tampered with whilst still in the womb, and vaccines are obviously given after the kids are born. So it must be a different method.
(L) Yeah, so...
(irjO) I've got a follow up question: If they have a soul and that can modify the modifications, can they connect with the STO side?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So, vaccines cause the autism, but their psychic abilities are related to genetic modifications, yes?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So, does that mean that there are individuals who have been genetically modified in this manner who are not autistic?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) A can of worms!
(Joe) These children who I suppose will grow into adults, what purpose are they to serve post changes? Are they meant to be soldiers of...
A: They can be hosts for 4D beings.
Q: (L) Like walk-ins, sort of?
A: Yes
Q: (Niall) Like Zuckerberg. [laughter]]
(Andromeda) He's an undergrounder. [laughter]]
(Joe) So that's probably the primary goal of the genetic notification, to provide that functionality of being walk-ins and the telepathic abilities are a function of that genetic modification, which is almost not important.
(L) They're basically souping up the model. They're making a souped up model that they can utilize and has already the ability for telepathy, which benefits...
(aragorn) Can I add something?
(L) Yes.
(aragorn) I was just thinking that many of these kids with these abilities said that they could super easily read people's minds. And not just their mothers', but some say that they could read all people's minds. So that could be a channel to download information and send it to the guys upstairs.
A: Yes.
Q: (T.C.) Does this have anything to do with what we were talking about in terms of communicating with grays? Or when we were talking about the AI program and that they used people with telepathic abilities to mentally block when they were dealing with aliens. Are these kids being made like this for that kind of purpose, or...?
A: Can be.
Q: (L) Okay, next question.
(T.C.) What were those guys that Hunter and Jay had an encounter with?
[See interview here: If the Chaos Gets Worse (And It Will) How to Survive]
A: A variation on men in black.
Q: (L) Well that's creepy... Alright, Approaching Infinity and Joe together are asking about the 4 November, 1995 session when they talk about literal elevators that can take you from one density to another:
(Approaching Infinity & Joe) How can you have a literal elevator that can take a person from 3D to 5D?
A: Don't think of it as an elevator such as those who are familiar with. Think of it as a high tech version of "Beam me up, Scottie." [laughter]
Q: (Joe) "Beam me up, Scottie" is already super high tech! Can't go any higher tech than that!
(L) So, in other words, it would be like an elevator that you would get into, and it would be high tech, and it would demolecularize you and remolecularize you, or something like that?
A: Yes.
Q: (Joe) Or not remolecularize you and just your soul, or whatever, goes to 5D. Because the reason we asked the question was because how can you go...? It's not a physical realm. You can't go in a physical elevator. You can't step into an elevator on 3D as a person and take an elevator to 5D. First of all, the elevator can't be in 5D because it's physical, you can't be either because you're physical. So how would that actually happen? But obviously it's super high tech. So, forget about it.
(iscreamsandwich) In the session from 23 November, 2024...
(L) I guess we must've been talking about Pierre...
(iscreamsandwich) What would be the most effective method of reaching those levels of the subconscious mind?
A: Hypnosis can work.
Q: (L) All right. Is that it?
(Chu) Yep, that's the end.
(Joe) Trump...
(L) You want to talk about Trump again?
(Joe) Only a little bit. Trump stated this week, in his inauguration speech, that the next four years would be the greatest years in American history. How likely is this to be the case?
A: Not very.
Q: (Joe) That's what I thought. And has Trump been told what the New Jersey drones probes were really about? Has he been given the truth?
A: No.
Q: (Joe) Okay. And in the previous session I asked, "Do a lot of members of government know?" And I think they said yes. But we're not talking about common or garden variety members... I mean, it's selective in terms of who's told. Is that true?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Probably the really deep, dark, black budget people or something.
(Joe) And so Trump isn't interested or... I mean, I just find it hard to imagine that someone like him, or any of them, would just happily carry on.
(L) Well, I think maybe Trump is... About the drones, he's like Jefferson is about these autistic kids, not particularly attracted or interested. And we're all that way. There are some things that grab us and attract and interest us, and things that don't. And I don't think Trump is that interested in it.
(Joe) But it has a direct... I mean, we're talking about unknown drones that they can't shoot down, can't do anything about over military bases, over nuclear bases, etcetera. And the entire US military can't do anything about it. They're impotent in the face of it, which immediately implies a higher power.
(L) But Trump doesn't think that. He thinks that this... I bet he thinks that it's just some activity going on that's very prosaic. I mean, look at Elon Musk! The guy wants to go to Mars, and he's not really interested enough in the whole UFO/UAP thing to explore it thoroughly.
(Joe) Maybe we should ask, is Musk being honest when he says...
(L) Is Musk being honest when he doesn't really have that much interest in UFO...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) To me, it staggers my mind.
(Joe) Especially for someone of his inclination.
(L) And he talks about when he has downtime, he plays video games. I mean, he could be reading and researching stuff, but he doesn't. And Trump is not a reader either. It is hard for most of us to really grasp that.
(Chu) I think for both of them, as much as they may care up to a certain point, or at least Trump, it's also about the ego and what they can do quickly and stuff.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Yeah, he and Elon and others like that are very pragmatic and interested in what they can...
(Chu) And the fame too.
(L) Yeah, exactly. They're interested in things that they can cope with and deal with and have an effect on. And if it has the least little hint of being out of their control, such as higher intelligences or higher things, they don't want to know. They don't want to know. If you look at Steve Mithen's theory [in his book The Prehistory of the Mind], where the mind is like a Swiss army knife... they don't have that part of their mind developed enough. And it is a very bad thing for ultimate survival, because it's been shown the people who do have that do connecting ability...
(Joe)... that inquiring mind...
(Niall) So, does Trump not really believe that a higher power intervened to save him last July? Is he just saying that?
(Joe) Well, that's separate, that's religion, that's God. Anybody can believe in God.
(L) But that's packaged, you see?
(Andromeda) It's known.
(Chu) And he probably really believes it, because it makes him feel special.
(Joe) I'm talking about the implications that these drones... these are things that could potentially pose a direct conflict, or have a direct implication on his ability to run the country. The existence of God doesn't influence his ability to run the country. God isn't going to come and stop him imposing certain policies or interfere with his...
(Niall) Well, God is the only reason he's still running the country, but he doesn't know that. Okay.
(L) It is a very particular type of mindset, and it's everywhere.
(Joe) There's a new so-called new Embassy that the US has been building for the past few years in Beirut. It covers 43 acres and will house 5,000 people. It's clearly not a standard embassy, based on America's other embassies around the world. It's massive. So what else is it going to be used for, or what's the intention?
A: Military, what else?
Q: (Joe) So it's a military base masquerading as an embassy.
(L) Yeah, without being a publicly advertised military base.
(Niall) Oh yeah, it's the second biggest one to the one in Baghdad. So the US is not leaving the Middle East any time soon.
(L) All right. Are we done?
(Chu) There's a few short questions on the chat, but only if you want them.
(Altair, Cosmos, Gawan) How likely is the war in Ukraine to end this year?
A: Very.
Q: (Caesarea) Ennio wants to ask what happened in Syria.
L: Kako to misliš što se dogodilo u Siriji? To je kao pravo opće, široko pitanje.
(Ennio) Da. Dakle, bilo je govora da je postojao plan da Assad ode možda isto ili otprilike u vrijeme kada je HTS došao na vlast. Dakle, je li zapravo postojao neki plan ili dogovor, ili je ono što smo vidjeli upravo ono što se dogodilo, da su u biti pregaženi?
O: Da.
P: (L) Mislim da su mislili da na zadnji dio.
(Niall) Dogodila se strašna zrakoplovna nesreća u Južnoj Koreji 29. prosinca. Čini se da je stajni trap samo pao i udario u neku vrstu barijere na kraju piste. Ali od tada smo saznali da crnim kutijama nedostaju zadnje četiri minute podataka.
(Joe) I to se dogodilo unutar 24 sata od dva druga nenormalna događaja. Jedan je bio problem sa stajnim trapom. Drugi avioni su imali teško slijetanje, recimo. Dakle, samo naprijed. Samo da to stavim u kontekst. Dakle, pitanje je je li krah Južne Koreje...
(Niall) namjerno?
(Joe) Da. Je li to bila obična sabotaža na ovaj ili onaj način?
O: Da.
P: (Niall) Zašto?
O: Pogledaj putnike.
P: (L) U redu. Jesmo li sada gotovi?
(Niall) Da.
(L) U redu. ja sam umoran Postoji li nešto što smo trebali pitati, a nismo pitali? Znam, Bože, to je tako glupo pitanje. [smijeh]] Recite to ovako: Postoji li nešto što nam možete ponuditi, a da nismo razmišljali o tome pitati, što bi nam bilo od pomoći, što nam je dopušteno imati, a da ne narušava naše slobodno htjeti?
O: Rekli smo da će stvari biti uzbudljive. Upravo se zagrijava. Zbogom.
P: (L) Ne sviđa mi se kako to zvuči.
(Andromeda) To je malo zlokobno.
L: To je jezivo.
KRAJ SJEDNICE
(Niall) There was a terrible plane crash in South Korea on December 29th. It looks like the landing gear just fell to drop and it crashed into a kind of a barrier at the end of the runway. But we've since learned that the black boxes are missing their last four minutes of data.
(Joe) And that happened within 24 hours of two other anomalous events. One was a landing gear problem. Other planes had a difficult landing, let's say. So, go ahead. Just to put that in context. So the question is, was the South Korea crash...
(Niall) deliberate?
(Joe) Yes. Was it plain sabotage in some way or another?
A: Yes.
Q: (Niall) Why?
A: Look into passengers.
Meanwhile, the Chosun Ilbo published a breaking news article titled 'List of All 175 Jeju Airlines Passengers in the Muan Airport Explosion' at 12:31 p.m., revealing the names, seats, and genders of the passengers. According to the Disaster Reporting Guidelines established in 2014 by five media organizations, including the Korea Journalists Association, the honor and privacy of the victims and their families should not be infringed upon, and that disclosure of personal information should be done with the utmost caution as there is a risk of infringement of personality rights.
Would it help to look up some of the names?Many of the passengers on board the Jeju Air plane that crashed at Muan International Airport on Sunday are believed to be residents of Gwangju and South Jeolla, while it has been confirmed that civil servants were also on board, including two Mokpo civil servant sisters.
According to the South Jeolla provincial government and other sources on Sunday, as of 4:50 p.m., the list of passengers on board the Jeju Air Flight 7C 2216, a Boeing 737-800 returning from Bangkok, included 13 current and former employees from the provincial government, Gwangju city government and affiliated organizations.
Two male employees from an organization affiliated with the South Jeolla Provincial Government were on the flight coming back from a trip to Thailand, while three current civil servants and five retired civil servants from Hwasun County were returning from a trip that they took together.
With the last four minutes missing, could remote control be possible with nobody ever finding out?Posted : 2025-01-11 15:16 Updated : 2025-01-13 11:09
The black boxes holding the flight data and cockpit voice recorders for the crashed Jeju Air flight that left 179 people dead stopped recording four minutes before the disaster, Korea's transport ministry said Saturday.