I would just some like to add some further thoughts on what I said in my previous post.
As to a deeper meaning to the C's comments about the Cross arising from the Rose, my first thought on this is that it is quite possible that the Knights Templar were created by the Rosicrucians with the specific mission of seeking the lost Ark of the Covenant and the Grail, both of which were once owned by Pharoah Akhenaten until his wife Queen Nefertiti purloined them and gave them to her fellow Hittite and lover Abraham/Moses, as depicted in the Bible story of Rachel stealing her father’s
teraphim or household idols and giving them to her husband Jacob (just another guise for Abraham/Moses). The household idols would seem to have been the Ark of the Covenant and the Grail.
It is my belief that the Grail was normally carried inside the Ark of the Covenant and thus kept from the view of the ordinary Israelites. Both objects were probably hidden away during the Babylonian siege of Jerusalem, quite possibly by the Prophet Jeremiah. What happened to Jeremiah after the fall of Jerusalem is unknown, although Irish legend and chronicles hold that he arrived in Ireland in the company of the scribe Baruch and the last King of Israel's (Zedekiah) daughter Tamar Tephi, who wed the Irish King Heremon at the Hill of Tara around 583 BC. Although Jeremiah supposedly brought Jacob's Pillar with him to Ireland, there is no mention of the Ark of the Covenant or the Grail. It is pretty much certain that the story of Jeremiah landing in Ireland with Zedekiah's daughter is just a work of fiction and Irish whimsy. However, there is much more credence to the idea of Jeremiah hiding the Ark and the Grail so they would not fall into Babylonian hands. Whatever the case may be, the fact remains that after the Jews return to Israel, which led to the rebuilding of the Temple of Jerusalem, the Bible makes no reference to the Ark. It seems to have just vanished in spite of the fact that it was the originally centre piece of the Holy of Holies in the Temple. Was it eventually found over 1600 years later by the Templars by the document(s) they may have discovered (as verified by the C's) during their excavations under the Temple Mount? If so, the Templars kept it and the Grail well hidden. Clues they may have found the hiding place of the Ark and the Grail can be found in the stone decorations in Chartres Cathedral, a Templar construction, as noted by Laura:
Q: It seems that the Templars were in charge of building the Cathedral at Chartres, and there is a tableaux on one of the porches of Melchizedek and the Queen of Sheba. Equidistant between them is the Ark of the Covenant in a cart. Melchizedek is holding a cup that is supposed to be the Holy Grail. Inside this cup is a cylindrical object of stone.
Assuming the Templars fulfilled their Rosicrucian backed mission to find the Ark and the Grail, did the two groups fall out leading to a rift which would only end when the Rosicrucians encouraged the French King and the Pope to suppress the Templar Order:
Q: Who or what brought about the end of the Knights of the Temple?
A: Rosicrucians move as a "thief in the night."
Perhaps the flashpoint which drove this action on the part of the Rosicrucians was the episode known in Anglo-French history as the "Cutting of the Elm" near
Gisors in Normandy, which was then owned by the English. Quoting from Wikipedia:
In the 12th century, the tree marked the traditional place of Franco-Norman negotiations, as the field was located on the border between Normandy, ruled by the English king, and the royal domains of the French king.
At Gisors, Henry II and his advisers stood under an Elm tree while Philip and his entourage suffered in the full heat of the sun. After the meeting, Philip ordered the tree cut down and hacked to pieces, sending the message that he would offer no quarter to the English.
A quite different account is given by the
Minstrel of Rheims (c. 1260), a thirteenth-century historical fiction:
King Richard sent a message to the counts of
Sancerre and of
Barre, telling them that they took the king's bread and gave him nothing in return but if they were brave enough to come to the elm tree at Gisors, he would consider them truly courageous. The French nobles sent the message back that they would come the next day, at the third hour, to cut the tree down, in spite of him. When the English king heard that they were coming to cut down the tree, he had the trunk reinforced with bands of iron, that were wrapped five times around it. The next morning the French nobles armed themselves, and assembled five squadrons of their men, one of which was led by the count of Sancerre, another by the count of
Chartres, the third by the count of
Vendôme, the fourth by the count of
Nevers, and the fifth by Sir William of Barre and Sir Alain of Roucy. They rode up to the elm tree at Gisors, with the crossbowmen and carpenters out front, and they had in their hands sharp axes and good pointed hammers, with which to cut the bands that were fastened around the tree. They stopped at the elm tree, tore off the bands, and cut it down, in spite of all resistance.
The event has been used in the history proposed by
Pierre Plantard and other pseudo-historical theories. In this context, the
Cutting of the elm was portrayed as marking the split between the
Knights Templar and the
Priory of Sion.
There is no doubt that Plantard was a charlatan but if we substitute the Rosicricians in place of the Priory of Sion, might we get to the real truth behind the matter. Afterall, Laura has noted that the Priory of Sion and the mystery of Rennes-le-Chateau is a smokescreen for something genuine since the three priests at the heart of the mystery received significant payments from somebody to keep some important secret under wraps.
Could the Cutting of the Elm have been caused therefore by the failure of the Templars to hand over the Ark and the Grail to the Rosicrucians, Gisors being a town with strong associations with the Templars, which has an underground network of tunnels the Templars may have used at the time of their suppression. It is also known that King Richard the Lionheart (Henry II's son and successor) had strong affiliations with the Templars having fought with them in the Holy Land. You will also note that the incident supposedly took place soon after the Fall of Jerusalem, which would have forced the Templars to evacuate the Ark and the Grail and bring them back to Europe for safekeeping.
Moreover, on the one occasion Laura asked the C's about the "Cutting of the Elm" incident, they refused to comment:
Q: (L) Okay, enough on that. Moving along. Mike asked about the cutting of the Elm at Gisors. Can you comment on the meaning of the 'Cutting of the Elm?'
A: No.
This is unusual on the C's part and might suggest that there was no significant meaning to the event worth commenting on or that to comment on it might have been dangerous at that stage in the C's experiment.
The other thought I had was that human beings naturally emit photons all the time (if slowly), a process that might have been more pronounced when humans were previously at 4th density or the bidensity level. This may have been especially true of the Kantekkians when they first arrived on Earth, as the C's said that their physiology was somewhat different to other humans, and it may be true again soon if I read the C's correctly here:
Q: [Discussion as to what that might mean. Laura points out that Rigel was mentioned in a previous discussion about supernovae.]
A: We already told you "No dice!"
Q: (Galahad) Should we tell the group about the change to Rigel?
A: Wait a bit and "see" how brilliant you are
Hence, the idea of human DNA, which is written into each of our cells, emitting photons corresponds neatly I think with the concept of the Cross (Photons) arising out of the Rose (DNA).
Does the shape of photons really matter in the bigger scheme of things though? Ark seemed to think not but the C's suggested otherwise in this extract from the transcripts:
Q: (L) Does that mean that a virus is a transdimensional manifestation?
A: Yes. Thoughts made manifest! Compare to some crop circles!
Q: (Psyche) Some viruses in the atlas DO look like crop circles. [wind noise muffles Ark's question] (Ark)...of course virus is just pure DNA, or what? (Psyche) It can be both DNA or RNA depending on the type of virus, and usually coated to protect itself. There are so many types of viruses; it can be just a piece of genetic code. (Ark) Okay, so my question is whether there is a particular part of the virus that has the property that is not just described by normal quantum physics or quantum chemistry and so on, or it’s the whole organization of virus that has this property?
A: Yes. Information field aggregates matter.
Q: (talk of thought vs. information) (Belibaste) Does information command or direct the aggregation of different proteins or amino acids to form a virus? Materialization?
A: Yes.
Q: (Psyche) It's very interesting because they have found in our "junk" DNA, properties of viruses that are close in location to those of stem cells, and also cells that end up producing cancer. It is quite interesting. (Perceval) That means our DNA is thought made manifest?
A: More or less!
Q: (Perceval) Except when we do the thinking, we mess it up. So, we should stop thinking and interfering with the manifestation of our DNA! (laughter)
Q: (Ark) A bigger loop. Alright. Next question is now I came back to my old paper about the shape of photons which contains errors, and I thought I will fix these errors, but at the same time I thought, "Well, let me add what I learned during these thirty years, and also this new idea of time and space." But I am not really sure if I should go back to this old idea because who cares about the shape of the photon?
A: It may reveal something important.
Q: (Ark) It may be... but is it?
A: You like it!
Did Natus Videre's post showing the likely the shape of the photon as a Templar style cross reveal the something of importance the C's had mentioned to Ark?
However, the C's also supported the idea in that extract of our DNA being thought made manifest and that viruses (chunks of DNA) are in reality a transdimensional manifestation of thoughts made manifest.
Since we live it seems in a holographic universe made of light, where matter is akin to congealed light, it makes sense that higher density beings can make their thoughts manifest as something we perceive at 3rd density as being real in our reality. It appears that some 3D humans have been able to exercise this skill too, such as the Maruts:
A: Think of the Maruts and their baskets from "heaven". {This reference is to material in “The Secret History of the World”}
Q: (L) So in other words, we're talking about being able to somehow manifest from higher dimensions or other dimensions, or direct manifestation of what is needed, i.e. the loaves and fishes?
A: More or less.
And the same seemed to be true of those with special abilities who convened at Chaco Canyon:
Q: (L) Okay, enough on that. Next? (A**) I was gonna ask about Chaco Canyon. What was it built for?
A: Gathering place for those of unusual abilities.
Q: (A***) Did anybody actually live there?
A: More like a "conference centre."
Q: (A**) So what happened to the people that used it?
A: Change of cosmic environment followed by earthly difficulties such as famine, climate etc.
Q: (J) What kind of things did those people with unusual abilities do when they gathered together?
A: Well, levitate, for one; direct manifestation for another; and "travel".
Q: (Allen) So, could they travel from one spot on the planet to another?
A: Yes.
Q: (A*l) Could they teleport?
A: Yes.
This process of turning thoughts into something manifest may also explain how the Grail operated as the 'Gift of God':
A: Multiple. In ancient times this object was called the Gift of God. It was used to aid in the manifestation of all things needful for existence.
No doubt it required people with the right DNA who were more STO orientated and could attune themselves with the Grail.
And according to the C's this manifestation capability is soon to return in the form of '
technospirituality':
Q: (L) Okay, here's this other question:
"That was really an interesting article posted by Psyche [on the Cassiopaea.org forum]. The authors implied that cereal agriculture is a recent innovation among human beings, only developed in the last 10 thousand years. Maybe the question for the C's is whether earlier civilizations ate any cereal grains at all, or whether they even practiced agriculture as we know it today. Or, did earlier civilizations have information that we don't have because they weren't being influenced by cereal grain diets?"
A: We wonder why this reader has not read the transcripts or your writings as the answer is there.
Q: (L) You mean like the 19-year cycle and the mother stone and the whole transdimensional thing that I wrote about in Secret History?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) In other words, what you're saying is that they did not practice agriculture. Is that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And that cereal agriculture and agriculture in general and as a whole is something that has been developed only in the last 10 thousand years and is as a result of our so-called "fall" from that state wherein we could practice technospirituality. Is that it?
A: Yes
Q: (Perceval) Techno-agro-spirituality!
A: Soon to be restored!
So, maybe Star Trek's replicator machines and holodecks may not be the stuff of fantasy after all
. Indeed, perhaps we ourselves are holographic projections too judging from what the C's said here:
Q: (L) So in other words, the people who noticed that remark were right, and the way I took it was wrong. Okay, another question, are there other types of soulless beings more than those reanimated or remolecularized dead dudes and OP's? Is there such things as holographic projection beings running around on the planet at this point and time?
A: In a sense, you are all "holographic" projections. But to answer the question, it is rare.
Q: (L) So, there are holographic projection type beings or there can be, but there's not too many of them.
Time for sleep I think to dream of holographic sheep
