Session 30 July 1994

Ollie

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Q: (L) Will the earth be affected by a comet or planet?
A: Maybe. One at a time please. Stop thinking physical thoughts - they are low frequency.
Q: (L) What do you mean by physical thoughts? Who is thinking physical thoughts?
A: Anything to do with body or animal like - minimize as much as possible - that raises vibration level.11
Q: (L) Is vegetarianism then the way we should eat?
A: That is concentrating on the physical. The body is not important.
Q: (L) Does this mean that to worry about the body in any way is wrong?
A: Close. Don't concentrate on life in the body. Concentrate on the spirit.

Shijing said:
... I am actually more self-conscious about my own FRV now after this comment :huh:

Wow, this has only just hit me, and how! I agree with Shijing's comment too. Physical thoughts I would say are dominating my thoughts in some way or other. This is a real wake-up call to do more concentrating on the spirit, over-and-above PotS. Thank you for bringing this to my attention DanielS. I wonder how much this 'physical thinking' affects others.
 

Artur

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Laura said:
July 30, 1994

"Frank", "Candy", Laura

Q: (L) Will the earth be affected by a comet or planet?
A: Maybe. One at a time please. Stop thinking physical thoughts - they are low frequency.
Q: (L) What do you mean by physical thoughts? Who is thinking physical thoughts?
A: Anything to do with body or animal like - minimize as much as possible - that raises vibration level.


I'm a little confused because of the translation to Polish language. There is no this fragment:
"Stop thinking physical thoughts - they are low frequency.
Q: (L) What do you mean by physical thoughts? Who is thinking physical thoughts?
A: Anything to do with body or animal like - minimize as much as possible - that raises vibration level."

So, the question "(L) Is vegetarianism then the way we should eat?" wasn't incomprehensible. Now I know the context.
 

Laura

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Where did you get/read your Polish translation?
 

realitybugll

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Q: (L) What planet is it described in several books as a desert with huge spiders with legs like tree trunks?[5]
A: Uzuli.
Q: (L) Has any of us ever been abducted by the giant spiders?
A: No one has.
Q: (L) Well why have people seen this planet?
A: It is one of the planets of ZR 4.
Q: (L) What is ZR 4?
A: Zeta Reticuli 4. There are seven planets. The 4th one.
Q: (L) What other information can you give us?

This part interested me a bit... Laura asked "why have people seen this planet" the C's gave a response... interesting. I'm wondering HOW people have seen this planet. assuming 3D sts humans have seen the planet I am guessing... "remote viewing" or psychic abilities. wow that is quite a feat. Because, no one has been abducted to there... so its interesting how someone saw it. Maybe also in a typical abduction some people have gained knowledge about this planet for some reason or another.

It's amazing to think a planet like this exists. wouldn't want to see this place... but at the same time I would... briefly.

Scientists are starting to gather information about extrasolar planets--I wonder in the coming years if it could be confirmed that ZR sun has 7 planets.
 

curious_richard

Jedi Master
wetroof said:
Q: (L) What planet is it described in several books as a desert with huge spiders with legs like tree trunks?[5]
A: Uzuli.
Q: (L) Has any of us ever been abducted by the giant spiders?
A: No one has.

Because, no one has been abducted to there...

That is not a valid conclusion. They said that no one has been abducted by the spiders.

Reading a little more, we see:
Q: (L) What other information can you give us?
A: Base of Aliens near here; small.

Perhaps those aliens abducted humans. Or perhaps any number of other aliens.
 

realitybugll

Jedi Council Member
curious_richard said:
That is not a valid conclusion. They said that no one has been abducted by the spiders.

Reading a little more, we see:
Q: (L) What other information can you give us?
A: Base of Aliens near here; small.

Perhaps those aliens abducted humans. Or perhaps any number of other aliens.

hmm, I find it fascinating if other planets with life could be remote viewed... this topic is so theoretical and hard to make conclusions about but I follow what you are saying. maybe that is part of what you are saying, it would be hard to guess how a human saw this planet. I would guess though through some interference of 4D STS. like abduction.

I didn't I realized there is quite a lot of discussion about the zeta reticuli solar system at the forum here and other places. and if I remember the Orions are associated with this place.

I wish I had some kind of mental map of our galaxy... the known stars and relative positions etc.

I found today some java program which renders a 3d view of our galaxy. I have to allocate more memory to the java, so it doesn't view for me at the moment. I was amazed there is some visual representations like this though.
here was the website: http://www.3dgalaxymap.com/

I also found the extrasolar planets encyclopaedia: http://exoplanet.eu/catalog-all.php?&mode=0&more=yes
 

FrankM4326754

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Thanks for sharing. Giant spiders... this reminds me of a documentary. I can not for the life of me remember the source and certainly do not wish to just cause noise but I believe it was possibly the discovery channel (may not be very accurate with their tainted information at times) that showed a documentary on hieroglyphs in Egypt. The hieroglyphs depicted Orion and the symbol for it was a spider. I've never forgotten that sense then because I found it so odd. Funny that I find it in this thread. There were also hieroglyphs of planes, helicopters, and UFOs. If time does not exit this makes perfect sense and we can deduce that the Orion's must have had their hand involved here.
 

OrangeScorpion

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Thanks for sharing!!!

Laura said:
Q: (L) Will the earth be affected by a comet or planet?
A: Maybe. One at a time please. Stop thinking physical thoughts - they are low frequency.
Q: (L) What do you mean by physical thoughts? Who is thinking physical thoughts?
A: Anything to do with body or animal like - minimize as much as possible - that raises vibration level.[11]

[11] This was a curious remark. I knew I wasn't thinking "low level" thoughts, I was pretty focused on my questions. I also knew Frank well enough to know that it wasn't him. So, the only logical candidate for a person thinking "low level" thoughts having to do with "animal-like" behavior was Candy.

By translating it into Spanish, I don't sure understand this very well. The C's are talking about a kind of “physical thought” to reduce the level of vibration. It's like a “thinking animal”.
This reminds me of what is said in the forum on pornography and how it lowers a person's FRV. Is it the point? Or do they talk about something else?
 

3DStudent

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OrangeScorpion said:
The C's are talking about a kind of “physical thought” to reduce the level of vibration. It's like a “thinking animal”.
This reminds me of what is said in the forum on pornography and how it lowers a person's FRV. Is it the point? Or do they talk about something else?

What I understand is that they are saying that low level, fleshy, base, carnal, or material thoughts lower your FRV. And I would assume that higher thoughts like love, spiritual, and emotional things would raise your FRV.
 

OrangeScorpion

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ok, thanks. It's like A and B influences of Boris Mouravieff in Gnosis. Some would increase our FRV, other would lower our FRV.

ufff! Among the lies and sacred cows of my mind and now my carnal or materials thoughts that lower my FRV, I will leave my mind completely empty. I don't know if I'm prepared still to dispense altogether of my "wishful thinking".
 

Str!ke

Padawan Learner
1.-Why do the C's say that 'Anything to do with body or animal like - minimize as much as possible - that raises vibration level', question is , why does it raises your vibration level?
I thought , shouldn't it lower instead of rising?. Or maybe it raises the STS level. It is probable that, however I still ask to not assume.

2.-What do they mean or what is understood by to 'treat the spirit' ?

3.-And, if we should treat the spirit and don't worry about the body, should we not care about health issues?
(I have a guess, but I still want to ask)


This session also appears in :
  • Wave 2 - Chapter 17 or Wandering Around in Third Density Can Be Hazardous to Your Health
 

SeekinTruth

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Str!ke said:
1.-Why do the C's say that 'Anything to do with body or animal like - minimize as much as possible - that raises vibration level', question is , why does it raises your vibration level?
I thought , shouldn't it lower instead of rising?. Or maybe it raises the STS level. It is probable that, however I still ask to not assume.

2.-What do they mean or what is understood by to 'treat the spirit' ?

3.-And, if we should treat the spirit and don't worry about the body, should we not care about health issues?
(I have a guess, but I still want to ask)


This session also appears in :
  • Wave 2 - Chapter 17 or Wandering Around in Third Density Can Be Hazardous to Your Health

The answer to your first question is (I think) that the C's meant minimizing anything about the body or animal-like will raise the FRV.

Your second and third questions, again, I think, according to my current understanding, is to always remember that it's the "'soul' that counts" and not be focused more than necessary on the body. So we WOULD definitely be concerned about physical health and well being, but only to ensure that it (the body) is as optimal an instrument for the "soul" as possible and to allow our lives to continue for our specific "soul" lessons. Just avoid being too identified with the body/physicality?? Anyway, no matter what circumstances, the physical body eventually dies (even in the hypothesized 4th Density, the last of the physical [paraphysical there] realms, just the life span is considerably extended). Thus "it's the 'soul' that counts." :) OSIT.

Added: Hope that helps somewhat.
 
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