Session 4 July 2015

[davidfxl]

20 Years Ago? Yes it's been quite a ride. There has been so much knowledge shared that i can't begin to thank those that have done so much to bring light to this reality (you know who you are).
Thank you!

 

[Fluffy]

Perfect, just what I needed right now. I've been feeling the futility for years and lately wanting to give up and haven't even responded to something that is very important to me that forum members cared enough to help me on. I'll get to that, I think about it every day but have been so bummed out.

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.

This has lifted me so much, made me cry and laugh at the same time

 

[Mark7]

My take on that was that it meant something like "injecting order into chaos", i.e. projecting an organizing principle into the raw material that is chaos in order to create something more structured.

There is Chaos, and what we inject into it depends on what we do with what we get. And it seems like this is both a conscious action - like networking and sharing with others a signal among all the noise (chaos), and unconscious - what our body/mind/soul does with cosmic energies based on our genetic capability, which we develop with conscious work. And the Wave sounds like it includes a surge of energy of infinite potential of some sort - and whether that surge gets converted into more chaos or into order completely depends on our readiness to transduce it. That's my current take on it anyhow!

Thanks Laura Shijing and SAO, the idea of injecting information as love/truth into chaos does seem to be what the C's meant by "transducing". It's like the chaos can be seeded with information and instead of chaotic energy being used for creating fear or "soul smashing", it can be used to create a viable future.

Sometimes it seems like there's not going to be a lot of options in the near future. We hear so much about "austerity", limited resources and even the need for population reduction, but perhaps we need to just be aware of more hopeful possibilities - and choices.

 

[PERLOU]

Mille mercis à Laura et ses compagnons ainsi qu'aux Cassiopéens pour ce message et leurs encouragements dont nous avons tant besoin devant toute la folie de ce monde... Merci...

Many thanks to Laura and his companions and the Cassiopaeans for that message and encouragement which we need so much to all the madness of this world ... Thanks ...

 

[Deleted member 4320]

Do not lose heart. Just remember that if you do all you can, yourselves in the future will bridge the gap. You are all potential transducers of information into chaos. Let that information be love/truth.

I interpret it this way: Everyone who had or have aim in the work on self to realize should stick to it, without giving up. Because the "game" is always on as we choose it, not depend or external circumstances. Somebody who doubt in his strength should remember that demonstrating not only oneself with his achievements but cosmic influence of different nature which finds out ways to demonstrate its potential on the lower planes of existence.

That powers have in their interest to keep us alive and helping. So we shouldn't worry about things that do not matter, like concentrating on fear, different blockades and on the things which push us to be dissociate. Because, in a sense, where is awareness there energy is follow. IF someone is concentrating on sharing or helping, the "battery" of love/truth will be activated and fill the gap of our limited inner resources.

If our attention on some task has no effect or if the behavior on which we focus does not work, instead of losing heart. Instead doing the same thing, only do it intensely or give up the way. Better start to do something different. And observe whether our higher being finding gap for a new place that we created for "us", inviting that part of us who live in the "future."

FWIW

 

[GRiM]

Thank you so much for publishing the session and thank you for helping reminding us people who are bombarded with A-influences :) Thank you again.

 

[1peacelover]

Continuous Thank You's for your willingness to share information and keep us in the light.

Session Date: July 4th 2015

Q: (Data) How does one get these pathogens?

A: Food and water and infections that weaken and allow entry.

Q: (L) So you can have them in your food and water like anywhere, but unless you get something else that weakens you, they don't take hold?

A: Yes

Would this also apply to control mechanisms such as: religion, psychopaths, belief, propaganda, organic portals, etc.? If knowledge protects then we will be less susceptible to being "infected"?

Thank you for the encouragement & love.

Do not lose heart. Just remember that if you do all you can, yourselves in the future will bridge the gap. You are all potential transducers of information into chaos. Let that information be love/truth.

 

[maxtree]

Again, THANK YOU for the session. And Thank you for all the information you shared during all those years.

 

[zak]

The point that was raised about 'preaching to the choir fatigue': Of all of the truth and awareness shared on places like Facebook, it's the same people ignoring it; refusing to accept or acknowledge it and the same people who are already aware and affirming each other's posts. Is it now just a game of numbers? Those who are awake, semi-awake, dreaming they're awake and those that will never wake up? Is there nothing more to be done?

Well, that is one way to look at it, but how can we be sure? That may be the impression we sometimes get, but facts actually show otherwise. Many people whom we have never met or heard off write to SOTT often, or contact us in some way, and they seem to be pretty much onboard. Their life circumstances don't let them interact here (yet), but those are nice surprises telling us that it is worth continuing to address everyone, not just a small group who already "gets it". We were all newbies once, and someone extended a hand. Someone said something others had said, but it suddenly made us go "aha!". So, I think that those things show that it's not just a game of numbers, but that everything is still open. Shocks can change things, if it's not too "late", but that is also a 3D thinking, if there is no "time". We just have to keep going, and see what happens.
(...)
We can't blame those who don't know, or whose life circumstances make it very hard to know, or who have their own lessons before they see some "light". But every time we learn, every time we DO see something, not doing something about it (even if it is just posting something on FB, writing a post to help out someone, sharing, etc.), then we are contributing to "the triumph of Evil". OSIT.

I found a ISOTM's passage talking about Knowledge and Number,
the page 44 to the 47
www.gurdjieff.am/in-search/index.pdf
Knowledge is material. There is a definite quantity of it in a given place at a given time. Taken in a large quantity by "one" man, it produces very good results; taken in a small quantity by a large number of people, it gives "no results" at all.

 

[bianca etezete]

Thanx a lot for yet another interesting and encouraging session!

Very interesting information about the pathogens... and like 1peacelover (and maybe others I didn't read) said I too was thinking that knowledge is some kind of Detox or Protection for the mind to ward off propaganda, disinfo and stuff (which are the social pathogens). Lots of things to think about! Thank you all!

 

[DougEE]

I found a ISOTM's passage talking about Knowledge and Number,
the page 44 to the 47
www.gurdjieff.am/in-search/index.pdf
Knowledge is material. There is a definite quantity of it in a given place at a given time. Taken in a large quantity by "one" man, it produces very good results; taken in a small quantity by a large number of people, it gives "no results" at all.

That's a very powerful section in ISOTM about knowledge, and the principle that 'One must acquire knowledge from one who knows'. It also implies that those who possess knowledge must maintain a very high moral standard and avoid being infected by evil.

 

[zhenqing]

Thank you so much for the new session! It was very interesting indeed.

 

[Kindle]

Oh how awesome. That message to us forum members almost made me cry.

I needed to hear that :)

I actually came here to say hi to the Cassiopaeans and luckily for me - there was a session.

"Hi Cassiopaeans" Thank you for the love :)

 

[MariuszJ]

I think the problem is the events will probably evolve into worse for a longer time. It would be easy to stand all that if it happened soon because the society would probably respond fast. This is why we feel disaffected.

 

[SMM]

Thank you for this new session!

The whole scenario with Vincent's participation in attempted attacks and your trip seems very intense energetically, if it was enough for it to have a knock-off effect of terror attacks when ithe energy was released. Above all, it is quite astounding how you all as a group went about protecting yourselves with respect.

And the last message is so good, I could cry.

I did shed a grateful tear. Thank you for the session.

The last message was different for the C's. It was definitely good to read and maybe even required; my whole body tingled reading that.

There were shivers sent down my spine reading some of the other parts of this session. Different from the tingles their closing message to the forum produces.