Session 6 December 2025

Thank you for the session. Always looking forward to read you.
Very interesting about the partners relationship and the giving of love. Could retention for a 6 months period or more be beneficial for a man?
Is the act necessary for the construction or continuity of a relationship?
Thanks again for all the information.
 
Thank-you to everyone for the session :flowers:

. And there’s also the thread on a book called Cupid’s Poisoned Arrow- it’s been years since I read the book, but from what I recall it was along the lines of what Laura brought up in the session.

Yeah, that thread come to mind for me too. There has been mention of the practice of the karezza method both in that thread and others - I don't know if that or something like it is what is being referred to in this session yet though.

Another thing that come to mind for me was the beginning of the relationship between Ian and Beth in Jennifer Ashleys The Madness of Lord Ian McKenzie where he, though aroused, did not initially engage in sex with Beth while he bought her to orgasm. Of course until the subject has been fully written about, I'm not yet sure if that's what Laura is driving at here.
 
Thank you for the session!

(meadow_wind) Has Yu MengLong been murdered?

A: Yes

Q: (meadow_wind) What were the motives for his murder?

A: Ritual sacrifice.

Q: (meadow_wind) Is there a connection between Charlie Kirk's murder and Yu MengLong's?

A: Very indirect, but yes.

Q: (L) And when you say 'very indirect, but yes', What exactly was the connection?

A: Time was right for sacrifices.

Q: (L) So you mean that there is some kind of... a sacrifice calendar?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Well, she points out here, odd coincidence:
meadow_wind said:
- Charlie Kirk, time of fatal injury 12:23 PM September 10th

- Yu MengLong alleged time of fallen death, but most likely died earlier. 5:00 AM September 11th, 2025

And then there were a bunch of chaotic energy, rare natural events that struck China around that period. September 10th, September 13, 15 and 21. Okay, what's up with that?

A: The sacrificial energy was active at the time. Think of "Eyes Wide Shut" type of activities.

Q: (L) So what is that? I never saw that. I didn't want to see it.

(Joe) It's a movie about the classic kind of secret society, masks, masonic kind of ritual sacrifice. Was Yu MengLong in some way involved in that or was he abducted by those people before that sacrifice?

A: He was the chosen sacrifice.

If there is something about this time - a calendar of some sort - then it’s probably safe to assume that the events of 9/11/2001 also fall into the ‘sacrifice’ category.
 
Thank you for the wonderful session.:hug:
Thanks for the great session!

But what's in the purse, then? If it's not a receiver of 4D energy, then it's generating the energy that's being directed by the pine cone?
Is the energy purely 3D? I'm getting the feeling it may have something to do with audio frequencies...
I was suspecting that pyramids which collect energy as a reservoir involved in the process. May be these purses are small scale energy holders from large scale pyramidal reservoir ( collects through grid), redirected through cones for moving megalithic objects. May be, It is like our technology - electric generators ( coal or water or atomic), through local transformers to household supply.
Thank you all for the session :-)


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Open question to all: how much, in your opinion, does this imply a jeopardizing of the Chinese government?

I am unable to answer that question myself, but "above" means "above", so there is a hierarchical aspect at the level of power dynamics. I can't ignore this.

I understand that the session refers to a transnational network of individuals, and I know that this network acts via infiltration; it's usually found in banks, show-business, and "elite" positions. Where money and power are.

So, I was pondering the degree of independence of the Chinese government in regard of this "structure".

I feel comfortable with the idea that it is not proper than to bind the CCP with those events. The stuff is external to it, but the problem is that there may be infiltration.

Thanks @meadow_wind for having asked about this case. It provides clarity. Much can be sorted thanks to your questions I believe!
Every body has their own program despite the labels ( democracy or communism etc.) . 4D STS will not allow any major country to go out of its control. Nation is not just land, it is the people. people can be hooked on to power for their purposes irrespective of governance structure it chooses through historical background. The current China built up on Mao's massive purges aka fear. So it is reasonable to assume that these types of 'occultists' involved all along. In any case, we know so little about China.
 
Thanks for the session!

(Nienna) In previous posts, the C's have said that the Apollo mission did take men to the moon and Neil Armstrong did walk on the moon although the dates stated in the session were not quite accurate. Do the C's still say that this is true?

A: Yes

Q: (Nienna) Did the Apollo missions land on the moon with the help of secret or advanced technology?

A: No

Q: (Joe) Did the Apollo astronauts see or experience anything on their trip to and on the moon that shocked them and that they could not speak about?

A: Yes. That is the reason so much confusion has been shrouded about the topic.
(Joe) What did the Apollo astronauts see?

A: Aliens and altered reality.

Q: (L) Are there things on the moon that are part of another reality that we cannot consistently see?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) So what they saw was something that is normal on the moon - that wasn't put on for their benefit?

A: Yes

Q: (L) And those people that are always seeing flashes of light on the moon, I've heard about people that train their telescope on it and they just watch it all the time. Are those flashes of light related to this altered or other reality?

A: Yes

Dr. G, a clinical and forensic psychologist and a body language expert, analyzed the demeanor of the astronauts during the Apollo 11 post mission press conference. (He also dealt with the press conference held before the mission.)


His conclusions?

I do acknowledge that there was a lot of pacifying behavior that we saw. We saw what some people might associate with lying or deception. We saw people having to calm themselves down a lot. Now, there are multiple explanations for this potentially. They could be that they are uncomfortable because of being in front of all of these people. It could be that they're uncomfortable because they just went on a space trip because they were in quarantine for 21 days. There's a variety of reasons why they could be stressed, but we do see distinct patterns of certain questions, particularly as it relates to memories of going into space. We do see more signs of pacification and more of a need to calm themselves down at those times.

So, I can actually see why people are skeptical and suspicious of this press conference or of both of these press conferences because their behavior does suggest a lot of stress and anxiety. And you would think for people that are astronauts that they would manage it a little bit differently. But ultimately this was also a a time period where people were not on TV a lot where an event like this was one of the biggest events in human history. So it could just be that there was a tremendous amount of pressure and they didn't know how to act on TV that they didn't feel comfortable with it. It's also possible that there was lying and deception going on.

I noticed that at 17:46, Buzz Aldrin answers a question about the moon surface, an "innocuous" subject, in a very clear and firm way without any fidgeting (as Dr. G put it), whereas the general memories of being up there seemed to bring anxiety to all three.

Looks like they did go to the moon, but perceiving aliens and altered reality was what disturbed them. If they didn't have foreknowledge of the things they would see there, it must have been a true shock to the system to experience the "high strangeness" happening on and about the moon. (Despite having had some briefing of what to expect, seeing it with their own eyes would have ”brought it home” for sure.)
 
I wonder how they silenced them to keep this hush so successfully.
If I remember correctly, absolutely all the Apollo astronauts who landed on the Moon were Freemasons (and it wasn't particularly hidden). So you just have to pick the right guys to keep them quiet.
Furthermore, during the Moon landing, the astronauts' voice broadcast was interrupted several times "due to technical problems." Clearly, even the trained "Masons" were literally shocked by something on the Moon, and it couldn't be broadcast to the general international broadcaster on Earth.
Has anyone ever heard of or stumbled upon similar information during their research? Any references in old texts? Any guesses on what this means or what this does?
There are bloggers on YouTube who cover this "occult" topic and gematria well. It should be noted that YouTube and Google mercilessly crack down on such bloggers (deleting particularly dangerous videos or labeling them "conspiracy theory"), so they often have to resort to "Aesopian language" to keep their videos from being deleted.

Numerous Hollywood stars (of varying stature) have been sacrificed in such "rituals." Almost always, it's disguised as an "accident" or suicide.
I've read a lot about it, but I've never been 100% sure it's all true. The C's confirmed that this whole ritualistic horror is real.

How are the victims chosen? Is there a certain criteria such as a person's birth or natal chart that fits the timing?
You could do a detailed search on YouTube and Google on this topic yourself; there's tons of information there. By searching, you raise your frequency, and besides, knowledge protects.
To throw some bones: a person's date of birth, name, and place of birth are significant; many "stars" are tracked from birth. This applies to actors, directors, screenwriters, singers, writers (and other media personalities). The topic is very complex and vast; you won't understand it in half an hour.
 
Thanks for another amazing session and all the hard work that’s goes into it.
Amazing how before a session I’m thinking about things that then get bought in it! Peptides and retention have been on my mind. Reading Hunters testosterone book at the minute so it’s all tying in. Thanks again.
 
Thank you all for the great session!
(L) Now I'm not going to go through and ask specific detailed questions about everything here, but I've got this document, which I published part of yesterday on my Substack, and I'll get to the more detailed part probably in the next few days. But in general, would you say that this is a correct analysis or comparison between the ideas of Ibn al-'Arabi and the Cassiopaeans and the perennial tradition and esoteric Christianity, et cetera?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Is there anything you would like to correct?

A: Yes. Masculinity should not be compared to the STS part of the dichotomy at higher levels. STS is only a reflection for balance at 6th level, the level of the names.

Q: (L) So are you saying that actual STS, as say a choice or an option, belongs to 3rd, 4th, and possibly even 5th?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Anything else?

A: Your discourse on the topic was inspired. Be sure to make it clear the element of love is the driver. Sex without love and deep psychic connection drains energy to 4 level STS.

Q: (L) So that's 4th density?

A: Yes

Q: (L) All right. And what about the instructions for the various procedures?

A: This might be less important than the simple instructions.

Q: (L) And the simple instructions are basically... You know guys, I have a Virgo moon and a Cancer ascendant. I don't even like talking about this stuff. I just want to let you know that. But here I'm going to go and do it anyway for you guys. So, the basic instructions are just mainly retention for the man?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Over prolonged periods of time, if possible, or as prolonged as possible?

A: Yes

Q: (L) But women are encouraged to not retain, is that correct?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Why is that?

A: Woman gives creative energy to man.

Q: (L) And then the man takes that energy and goes out and creates the environment in which the woman lives. Is that it?

A: Yes basically.

Q: (L) So it doesn't really matter if you follow specific techniques. Those are there for, basically, to give people something to concentrate on?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Is it important to close the microcosmic orbit at the crucial moment?

A: Sometimes. Other times it simply happens naturally at the moment of culmination when the two become one.

Q: (L) Well, the book recommends a rather strenuous schedule. Is this schedule necessary?

A: In certain cases, yes.

Q: (L) So...

(Joe) In what cases?

(Niall) In whose cases?

A: Illness or when serious energy exchange is required. If the couple are open and sincere they can approach the practices in a spirit of playful exploration and experimentation. Find out what works individually as a couple.

Q: (L) So in other words, if you're open to experimenting and observing the results, exploring and having fun, basically... you really can't break it, is that it?

A: Yes

Q: (L) But if you can achieve some of the goals set out in the instructions, in certain respects as far as retention and so forth, those can be very beneficial?

A: Absolutely!!!

Q: (L) So... The part on healing says that "direct exchange and balancing of yin and yang 'jing', which is sexual essence [...] a man's deepest constitutional energies are yang in nature. A woman's are yin. In ordinary sex, these essences are usually lost or spent. In loving dual cultivation, they are consciously exchanged and harmonized. Deficiencies in one partner are literally replenished by the surplus of the other.” So, is that a fair and accurate statement?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Is sex as we experience it...? I mean, here's what I was thinking: The whole thing started because I was thinking about everything that exists in the universe being kind of like a word, or a sentence of the divine, being representative, a metaphor, a symbol, you know, all of those kinds of things. And if that was the case, the fact that we were male and female and sex is there and sex happens, that certainly must represent some cosmic action.

I mean, as above, so below. And clearly that means that we probably ought to examine the case, and discover what we can about it that is of a positive nature, or at least understand it. So that was my thinking behind it. And so, that's kind of why I was curious about it and why I was looking into it. And that being the case, is it that love is kind of like the glue that holds...? I mean, it talks about love from the divine, the love of the divine, for the divine. "I was a treasure and I loved to be known", as al-'Arabi said. And the C's, at one point, when talking about chakras, said that something was a sexual center, and it was connected to seventh density in the aspect of "thou I love", or something like that. I don't remember exactly what the terminology was, but it's like love is kind of like... Is it like the glue, or the motivation?

A: Both in a sense, but more the motivation.

Q: (L) So love is what motivates creation, in a sense.

A: Yes

Q: (L) Boy, that was fast! All right. Does anybody have any questions about that, that they want to ask?

(Ellipse) I would like to ask if for a man, there is no risk of building too much energy when there is retention. If there's a risk of having, or building up too much energy.

(L) In other words, you're worried that you'll wait too long and you'll explode. [laughter]

(Joe) I think he's talking about retention, that if there is energy inflow, that there will be too much energy. I suppose that if it's not used, then maybe.

A: When the moment for release comes, it should be obvious. The ancients made observations and established rule of thumb guidelines that can be followed.

Q: (L) So, I'll put it all together and make it available. But there are, like I said, there are a couple of books you can buy that have this material. They don't put so much focus on the love part, which the Cs apparently consider to be very important. They're mostly into practical aspects, or whatever. But there are a couple of books that I think are reliable. So, I'll make that available very shortly. But in the meantime, I guess from what the C's have said, people can, if they know the principle, you know, retention for the man, but not for the woman... or not normally for the woman. Under some circumstances, apparently it might be advisable, but not usually. And prolonged encounters, and prolific encounters. Because that makes it even harder. I mean, because if you have a period of time, obviously if you don't do anything for that period of time, you're not really challenging yourself. Because I think that... I don't know if you guys realize how hard it is to retain for any great period of time, and I'm really thankful that the burden is put upon the men. [laughter]

(T.C.) Can I ask a question?

(L) Yes.

(T.C.) It's semi-related, but it's in the same ballpark. About single men: It's just a general question, but what is going to be more beneficial for their long-term health, retention or release/relief?

(L) I didn't read about that in the book, yet. Of course, I haven't read all of the books yet.

(T.C.) So they may cover that in your books as well.

(L) Yeah, that may be covered, but I haven't come across anything about it. I guess we can just ask...

A: Depends on the man.

Q: (L) So it would almost have to be an individual answer. Yeah, because I don't know how you'd be balancing your yin energy if you don't have a female partner. And autonomous activity might... Maybe, here's what I think: I think if a man is single, he should not worry so much about retention, because he's not getting any yin balancing anyway, and he should just try to restrict himself to as often as needed. Is that close enough?

A: Yes

Q: (L) So any other questions? Come now, come on. Everything you wanted to know, it's right here. Just... No?

(Approaching Infinity) I’ve got a question.

(L) Yes?

(Approaching Infinity) So in some of the texts that I've read on like Taoist Alchemy, but also in things like Gurdjieff, there's an emphasis placed on the visualization that goes along with something like retention. So visualizing energy, like moving from the groin area up into the mind. Are those types of visualizations beneficial or necessary?

A: Beneficial, but not always necessary.

As we get older and start using our brains more, we realise that sex is a pretty big deal. It's just a closed circle.

When you're a young guy, you're always curious about everything and you keep changing partners, but then you realise it's not about the partners, it's about you.

At least that was my path : I focused on myself and experimented with retention for long periods of time, sometimes for over a year. I realised that it's not about holding or relief, but how it feels when you're doing or not doing it. I've known for a while now, and C's just confirmed it, that if you do it with someone you really love, it makes you feel complete.

If you feel empty afterwards or just want to explode if you holding it, than you know you are not on the right track.
 
I think there´s a misunderstanding going on here; retention and abstention are two different things.

Here, the Cs are not talking about abstention from sex in a relationship; they talk about retention.

retention /rɪˈtɛnʃn/
noun
1. the continued possession, use, or control of something.
"the retention of deposits by landlords remains an issue"
2. the action of absorbing and continuing to hold a substance.
"the soil's retention of moisture"

So, in the context of sex, in a loving relationship, the Cs advice of retention for a man means, plainly speaking, to have sex but to delay orgasm as much as possible, which is on individual basis, so, it depends from man to man.
So, the basic instructions are just mainly retention for the man?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Over prolonged periods of time, if possible, or as prolonged as possible?

A: Yes

Q: (L) But women are encouraged to not retain, is that correct?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Why is that?

A: Woman gives creative energy to man.
 
You are welcome. I do feel our group brought a form of justice by exposing this. And I'm sure no one here, myself included, expected to hear what was said...
Don't you tell me! :-)

I would like to wait and let others post about your post, and mine, too, before I try to answer your questions. That's because I asked about an aspect of this, and some things are not yet clear to me.
 
Thanks for the session!

(Joe) What did the Apollo astronauts see?

A: Aliens and altered reality.

Ooh interesting, so I wonder if the altered reality was along the lines of what I was thinking in the moon landings thread:
the C's have said that the moon is a 2nd density planet, and that it is used by 4D STS.. aside from obvious ideas like "they couldn't show the real photos because the photos were full of alien stuff", I wonder if the presence of 4D bases, or the Atlantean giant crystal mentioned by the C's, could cause an area effect of density transition, so when people went to the moon they were (partially?) in 4th density, or their cameras were pointed at something in 4D. The C's said Jupiter looks the way it does to us (surreal) because it's 4D.. they also recently said the markings on the "buga sphere" look messy because it's a bi-density object, and "fading in and out" between densities makes the markings look that way to us (If I understand correctly what the C's meant)... So I wonder if that kind of effect could account for some of the weirdness around the moon photos, if they are legit photos..

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and I just wanna say, I am truly sorry for you guys out there that aren’t single.
Don't be! The retention thing is really good :D I've been doing that, somewhat, for years. Dunno how to talk about it really... But like, "spreading out" intimate times with my wife over days or weeks, i.e. we have sex but I don't orgasm/ejaculate, until one day I do... It makes things quite magical. It feels like, hmm...generating power between us. After each time when I haven't done that, I feel very calm and energised and she seems very calm and expansive, I feel so much love for her, and this builds up over days.. I don't mean that I normally don't feel love for her, but this kind of loving feeling that starts developing feels more...conscious?

Anyways. The reason why I started doing that was, I remember finding out as a young man that at times when I was very aroused, and it felt very important..then after ejaculating I would *immediately* lose all interest and arousal, as if those feelings had been turned off with a switch. It made it obvious that those feelings were purely generated in my body, not my mind. I accepted that obviously, but thought it was weird and didn't like it. Very strange feeling, to have something seem super important and then next minute, you've stopped caring about it at all! So years later with my wife, this same thing would happen (though actually the "instant off" thing has decreased over the years) and I really didn't like that, so I tried just not ejaculating to see what would happen...
 
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