Session 6 December 2025

Thank you Laura and everyone for sharing another Fascinating session! 💐

(Joe) What did the Apollo astronauts see?

A: Aliens and altered reality.

Q: (L) Are there things on the moon that are part of another reality that we cannot consistently see?

A: Yes

I remind in the Wave C's mentions that the Atlanteans used the Moon, but can't remember if they also mentioned that one of the gigantic crystals, like the one in the Bermuda Triangle, was also located on the Moon.

Q: (L) So are you saying that actual STS, as say a choice or an option, belongs to 3rd, 4th, and possibly even 5th?

A: Yes

We've heard a lot about the 4th STS but what about 5th STS? I remember reading an article by Laura where she mentions that the 5th STS
is like immovable energy something like a blackhole. I wonder if these massive black holes like TON 618 are a kind of representation of 5th STS?
 
The retention thing is really good :D I've been doing that, somewhat, for years. Dunno how to talk about it really... But like, "spreading out" intimate times with my wife over days or weeks, i.e. we have sex but I don't orgasm/ejaculate, until one day I do... It makes things quite magical. It feels like, hmm...generating power between us. After each time when I haven't done that, I feel very calm and energised and she seems very calm and expansive, I feel so much love for her, and this builds up over days.. I don't mean that I normally don't feel love for her, but this kind of loving feeling that starts developing feels more...conscious?

Anyways. The reason why I started doing that was, I remember finding out as a young man that at times when I was very aroused, and it felt very important..then after ejaculating I would *immediately* lose all interest and arousal, as if those feelings had been turned off with a switch. It made it obvious that those feelings were purely generated in my body, not my mind. I accepted that obviously, but thought it was weird and didn't like it. Very strange feeling, to have something seem super important and then next minute, you've stopped caring about it at all! So years later with my wife, this same thing would happen (though actually the "instant off" thing has decreased over the years) and I really didn't like that, so I tried just not ejaculating to see what would happen...
Thank you for that explanation Brandon, On a personal and female level I can somewhat relate to that feeling of wasting energy and then feeling apathy, as if I’ve let myself down, sometimes resulting in confusion, disgust… though mine’s more about engaging in sexual experiences for the wrong reasons, physical reasons or looking to fulfil unmet emotional needs instead of for love and connection.

I’ve never had any ‘magical’ experience you talk about. Sex for me has never been much more exciting than having a lukewarm bath and seems kinda pointless, so it doesn’t happen very often.
 
I don't mean that I normally don't feel love for her, but this kind of loving feeling that starts developing feels more...conscious?
This is one of the reasons people like Marnia Robinson (Cupid's Poisoned Arrow) recommend karezza. One of the old Chinese texts made the same observation:
When ching is emitted the whole body feels weary. One suffers buzzing in the ears and drowsiness in the eyes; the throat is parched and the joints heavy. Although there is brief pleasure, in the end there is discomfort. If, however, one engages in sex without emission, then the strength of our ch'i will be more than sufficient and our bodies at ease. One's hearing will be acute and vision clear. Although exercising self-control and calming the passion, love actually increases, and one remains unsatiated. How can this be considered unpleasurable?
 
Thank you Laura and everyone for sharing another Fascinating session! 💐



I remind in the Wave C's mentions that the Atlanteans used the Moon, but can't remember if they also mentioned that one of the gigantic crystals, like the one in the Bermuda Triangle, was also located on the Moon.



We've heard a lot about the 4th STS but what about 5th STS? I remember reading an article by Laura where she mentions that the 5th STS
is like immovable energy something like a blackhole. I wonder if these massive black holes like TON 618 are a kind of representation of 5th STS?

From 21st Sept., 2024:

(L) Yeah, I'm not sure, but I remember what's his name, Michael Topper. And I'm pretty sure, I think I referenced it in my article on stalking - Michael Topper, stalking - that a 5D STS being was incredibly contractile, gravitation… I mean, you would think of it as the laziest thing on the planet because it's so contractile, it doesn't even move. It doesn't even stir… I mean, almost like a black hole, and maybe it's close to a black hole. Maybe that's what black holes are: they are these contractile 5D STS beings floating around in the universe. Maybe the universe is 5D for all we know.

The C’s have also said that people we consider evil, like Hitler, are in some sort of sleep state in 5D:

30th Sept., 1994

Q: (L) Where is Adolf Hitler now?

A: Sleeping.

Q: (L) How long will he sleep?

A: Indefinite.

Q: (L) Will Adolf Hitler return to incarnation at some point in the future?

A: Yes.

If 5D is the contemplation zone where the truths of one’s existence become apparent due to the removal of the blocks of the false personality, and the truth about yourself is ‘too much to contemplate’, then I suppose the only option available to you would be to go to sleep. Like having a permanent mirror in front of you, so you have to keep your eyes closed.

In such a state, the only thing that matters to you is yourself. So you would be a 5D STS being.

But maybe there are lots of different kinds of 5D STS beings, and this is just one of them.
 
Do they mean that killing him released some form of energy, and it's that energy that triggered all those 4 weird weather/animal events? If that's the case, how come it produced so much weirdness??? I mean, what happened was not benign at all; it was heaven's wrath on earth!
The Exorcist comes to mind. Here's an AI review:

The 1973 film The Exorcist is deeply intertwined with themes of weather phenomena and evil, both in its narrative and in the real-life events surrounding its production. The film’s premiere in Rome was marked by an unusually severe storm, complete with torrential rain and lightning, which set a foreboding atmosphere for the screening. During this storm, a lightning strike caused a 400-year-old cross to fall from a church and land in the center of a piazza near the theater, an incident many interpreted as a supernatural omen. This event, seemingly ripped from a horror novel, contributed to the film’s aura of dread and reinforced the perception of evil forces at play.

The film’s narrative centers on the demonic possession of a 12-year-old girl, Regan MacNeil, by the demon Pazuzu, a figure derived from Assyrian and Babylonian mythology as the king of the demons of the wind. The demon’s association with wind is symbolically reinforced throughout the film, with scenes featuring wind blowing, such as when the statue of Pazuzu is unearthed, and later when the wind signals his arrival. The film’s director, William Friedkin, emphasized realism, even going so far as to freeze the set to sub-zero temperatures to create authentic icy conditions, which contributed to the chilling atmosphere.
Funny that the film was from 1973, same year that a coup d'état on September 11, 1973, led to the death of Salvador Allende. His daughter, Isabel Allende, writes about the subject in "House of the Spirits" and "Paula", a memoir of her daughter. It was a bad omen all around. Here's a story from that time that also gives the feeling of the energies:


The author of the epic Twenty Love Poems and a Song of Despair and the winner of the 1971 Nobel Prize in Literature, Neruda died at the age of sixty-nine, supposedly of prostate cancer, just twelve days after the violent September 11, 1973, military coup launched by army chief Augusto Pinochet against the country's elected Socialist President, Salvador Allende. Warplanes had strafed the Presidential palace, and Allende had bravely held out, but committed suicide with a rifle given to him by Cuba's President Fidel Castro as Pinochet's goons stormed into the Presidential palace. Neruda was a close friend and supporter of Allende's; he was ill, but in the midst of planning to leave the country for Mexico, where he had been invited to go into exile. When he was on his deathbed in a clinic, his home had been broken into by soldiers and trashed.

At his funeral, a large crowd of mourners marched through the streets of Santiago - a grim city that was otherwise empty except for military vehicles. At his gravesite, in one of the only known acts of public defiance in the wake of the coup, the mourners sang the "Internationale" and saluted Neruda and also Allende. As they did, the regime's men were going around the city, burning the books of authors it didn't like, while hunting down those it could find to torture or kill.
 
Thank you for the session. I just saw this photo on FB and it reminded me of Laura's new Substack post :lol:.
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Q: (L) And those people that are always seeing flashes of light on the moon, I've heard about people that train their telescope on it and they just watch it all the time. Are those flashes of light related to this altered or other reality?

A: Yes
This seems to be it:


"I started observing lunar impact flashes around 2011 and have been continuously observing since 2020," Fujii said. "With my 20cm telescope, I typically detect about one impact flash every few dozen hours of observation. Because the thin crescent moon is visible only briefly and often low in the sky where thin clouds are common, I only observe a few dozen flashes per year".

Fujii has documented a total of 60 flashes so far.
 
Session Date: December 6th 2025

Laura and Andromeda at the board

Niall, Joe, Gaby, Ark, PoB, Chu, Scottie, Princess Leia, Falkor, Bella

FOTCM Members attending via Zoom:

3DStudent, A Jay, Adobe US, Aeneas, aimarok, Alana, Alejo, Altair, Anamarija, anartist, AndrewMn, Anthony, Approaching Infinity, Aragorn, Aya, Beau, Bluefyre, Bo, Bobo08, Breton, cassandra, Cosmos, daddycat, Deliverance, dugdeep, Eboard10, Ellipse, Ennio, fabric, Finduilas495, France, Glenn, gottathink, Gwenllian, Harmony99, herondancer, hesperides, Honzap, iamthatis, IronFloyd, Irving, iscreamsandwish, Ivan_, Jacques, Jeanne T, JEEP, Jefferson, Jenn, Josi, Juba, Keyhole, Kinyash, KJN, Kmicic, Lilou, LQB, luc, Lucius, Luis Miguel, Mark, Maat, maiko, Manitoban, Mari, Mark7, Martina, meadow_wind, Meg, Mikkael, Mililea, Miracle, mkrnhr, mommycat, msante, Natus Videre, Navigator, Nicholas, Nienna, Ollie, Oxajil, Puma, RedFox, rrraven, Ryan, rylek, ryu, Saman, seek10, seeker2seer, sid, Steph_Rivers, Stoneboss, sToRmR1dR, T.C., thorbiorn, Timótheos, Tomek, Tristan, Tuatha de Danaan, Turgon, Voyageur, Windmill knight, Yas, Ysus, zim

Q: (L) We have a little conflict of interest here because I want to ask some questions and I've got three pages of other questions. Actually, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 pages... Well, there's not that many questions because there's explanatory information. So I suppose we could start with these. aimarok, are you here? Have you taken this cat to the vet?

(aimarok) Yes, I'm here. Yes, we were at the vet, we did ultrasound and blood work and the blood work is mostly clean, but ultrasound shows some problems and the vet said that the most likely diagnosis is lymphoma. After that I talked to Z..., showed him the results and he agreed that it looks like a lymphoma.

(L) So what is the prescribed treatment? Did they do a biopsy?

(aimarok) The vet prescribed some drugs for the stomach, for colon treatment just in case it's some kind of infection. But she said that I need to do a second ultrasound and if there is no improvement then the biopsy is the only way to really understand what's going on. And the biopsy is a very intrusive operation.

(L) Yeah. So basically the scan or whatever is showing masses somewhere in the body?

(aimarok) No, only enlarged lymph nodes.

(L) That's it, huh? Okay. No masses.

(aimarok) No masses. Well I guess there is no way to tell with ultrasound only.

(L) Oh, okay. And how old is the cat?

(aimarok) He's eight.

(L) So he is still fairly young.

(aimarok) Middle-aged.

(L) Yeah. Well my cat's what? She was born in 2017 and this is 2025, so she's eight too. So my cat is eight. Yeah. Okay. So today is Saturday the 6th of December, 2025. All the usual are here. [review of those present]

A: Love gives all.

Q: (L) And who do we have with us tonight?

A: Seranaea of Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) And why that particular opening statement?

A: We anticipate your questions.

Q: (L) Alright, so aimarok wants to ask if his cat has lymphoma or another type of cancer?

A: NO

Q: (L) And then he asked:

(aimarok) Would Fenbendazole and Ivermectin be the best healing protocol for him?

A: Wouldn't hurt.

Q: (L) So you're saying that whatever the cat has, that this would be a good treatment?

A: Yes

Q: (aimarok) Okay. Can we ask, maybe there's something more we can give to the cat?

A: Needs probiotics.

Q: (aimarok) Thank you.

(L) Okay. Alright. dugdeep asks:

(dugdeep) Speaking generally, is peptide therapy safe?

A: About 60 percent.

Q: (dugdeep) There are some peptides which activate pathways that are the same used by tumor cells, which has led some to speculate that some peptides could potentially be carcinogenic. Is there a possibility that using certain peptides will cause cancer?

A: Can do.

Q: (dugdeep) Or could certain peptides exacerbate or accelerate existing cancer?

A: Can.

Q: (dugdeep) There is a great deal of hype around peptide therapies with a lot of claims being made that sound miraculous. We have many mechanisms of action identified, yet actual data on how those mechanisms manifest in humans is often lacking in general. Could it be said that peptides live up to the hype?

A: In some cases, yes indeed. Knowledge protects.

Q: (L) So in other words, do your research and be cautious.

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) Can we ask a question just about the peptides, just to get something a bit more specific?

(Gaby) Well, SS-31?

A: Good one.

Q: (Gaby) What about BPC-157?

A: Yes

Q: (Gaby) Well the list is long. I think we can figure it out.

(L) Yeah, I think doing your research and getting everything...

(Joe) It's more about the ones we're already taking, and have been taking for a while.

(L) Okay.

(daddycat) Morley Robbins wrote a book "Cure Your Fatigue" describing more than 100 years of dietary changes that have created copper deficiency in people. Do most people have a copper deficiency?

A: Yes

Q: (daddycat) Is Morley Robbins' Root Cause Protocol correct in that we should stop taking vitamin D3, zinc, and ascorbic acid supplements because they adversely affect copper metabolism?

A: No. Take copper.

Q: (Joe) What's a good dose for the average person?

A: 2mg

Q: (Joe) Per day?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Okay. Gaby wants to know:

(Gaby) Is inuspheresis safe and worthwhile?

A: Safe, yes. Worthwhile in some dire cases.

Q: (L) I suppose if you clean out your blood and then you put it back in, all the stuff that's still in your tissues would just get picked up again and the next day. So you'd have to do it a number of times.

(Joe) You do it a couple of times and then check and then do more blood work.

(L) And probably only for somebody who's in a situation where they really need it.

(Andromeda) They can't do otherwise.

(L) Yeah.

A: Yes

Q: (sid) Considering how human bodies grow from a single-celled embryo, we can see some incredible automation in action. But automation requires control and orchestration. So, is this purely directed by a specific morphic field?

A: No

Q: (sid) Which other forces direct this process?

A: DNA in connection with "morphic field".

Q: (L) Why did you put "morphic field" in quotes?

A: Because it is more complicated.

Q: (L) Well, is there any part of it that's... I mean, you say, "DNA in connection with 'morphic fields'"... What is more complicated?

A: DNA is connected to image of higher self by antennae-like properties in some cases.

Q: (L) I don't want to go there. Okay:

(Mark7) The purse subject in the last session, was it a sort of 'receiver' of 4D energy?

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A: No

Q: (Mark7) Are there still any around?

A: Possibly.

Q: (Mark7) Does any of this technology involve the manipulation of awareness?

A: Can.

Q: (Nienna) What were the pine cone-like things they had in their hand?

A: Energy directors.

Q: (Nienna) What were the things they wore on their wrists that looked like watches/bracelets?

A: Communication devices.

Q: (L) It's Dick Tracy!!!

(Niall) They were FaceTiming.

(L) So basically you've got your energy director and your battery pack and you hold the battery pack in your left hand in this picture and your energy director in the right hand and... probably zap the heck out of it. Maybe it's like a laser or something.

(Chu) T.C. has a follow-up question there.

(T.C.) When it comes to the purses, are we talking about collection and dispersal of gravity waves?

A: Can.

Q: (L) And other things?

A: Yes

Q: (L) So maybe the pine cone is like a dial. You can choose your setting and zap away.

A: Yes

Q: (L) Okay. Then Nienna says:

(Nienna) In previous posts, the C's have said that the Apollo mission did take men to the moon and Neil Armstrong did walk on the moon although the dates stated in the session were not quite accurate. Do the C's still say that this is true?

A: Yes

Q: (Nienna) Did the Apollo missions land on the moon with the help of secret or advanced technology?

A: No

Q: (Joe) Did the Apollo astronauts see or experience anything on their trip to and on the moon that shocked them and that they could not speak about?

A: Yes. That is the reason so much confusion has been shrouded about the topic.

Q: (L) Okay.

(Mark7) Is there anything we are missing about the psychopath/narcissist/cluster B spectrum of individuals from a hyperdimensional sense that would be worth some investigation?

A: Nothing that investigation would expose.

Q: (L) So in other words, whatever it is, you wouldn't pull it up. It would be something hyperdimensional maybe. I mean, didn't they say in one session that these are the types of individuals that they're trying to breed up more of so they can have bodies in which to download themselves? And that's something that's pretty creepy in and of itself, but not something that an investigation would expose.

(Joe) What did the Apollo astronauts see?

A: Aliens and altered reality.

Q: (L) Are there things on the moon that are part of another reality that we cannot consistently see?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) So what they saw was something that is normal on the moon - that wasn't put on for their benefit?

A: Yes

Q: (L) And those people that are always seeing flashes of light on the moon, I've heard about people that train their telescope on it and they just watch it all the time. Are those flashes of light related to this altered or other reality?

A: Yes

Q: (L) All right.

(meadow_wind) Has Yu MengLong been murdered?

A: Yes

Q: (meadow_wind) What were the motives for his murder?

A: Ritual sacrifice.

Q: (meadow_wind) Is there a connection between Charlie Kirk's murder and Yu MengLong's?

A: Very indirect, but yes.

Q: (L) And when you say 'very indirect, but yes', What exactly was the connection?

A: Time was right for sacrifices.

Q: (L) So you mean that there is some kind of... a sacrifice calendar?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Well, she points out here, odd coincidence:



And then there were a bunch of chaotic energy, rare natural events that struck China around that period. September 10th, September 13, 15 and 21. Okay, what's up with that?

A: The sacrificial energy was active at the time. Think of "Eyes Wide Shut" type of activities.

Q: (L) So what is that? I never saw that. I didn't want to see it.

(Joe) It's a movie about the classic kind of secret society, masks, masonic kind of ritual sacrifice. Was Yu MengLong in some way involved in that or was he abducted by those people before that sacrifice?

A: He was the chosen sacrifice.

Q: (Niall) Is this like a Chinese elite version of their Western counterparts?

A: Yes

Q: (Niall) Chinese Freemasonry.

(Chu) Are the responsible people part of the government or just private individuals?

A: Above the government.

Q: (Scottie) We can probably answer all those questions because it's secret societies just like in the West.

(Niall) It's not known in China, unless you've heard that. I've never heard of Freemasonry.

(L) Well, I mean I think probably societies all over the world...

(Niall) Everyone goes, "The CCP is like the top dog in China!"

(L) Well, everybody says the president of the US is the top dog.

(Niall) But it's also commonly known that there's a deep state.

(L) I would imagine there's something beyond that in China. It is just that we don't as a general rule know that much about it because China is...

(Joe) There's probably similar groups in all major countries.

Q: (L) Yeah and they probably connect with each other and they're probably linked to hyperdimensional critters or demons or something.

A: Yes

Q: (L) See, I was right.

(Niall) Yeah, but I'd like to know what. Well, we've asked before about Russia's case and it's like, well, no, I can't remember what the answer was for Russia. But there are obviously powerful actors in Russia connected to a global elite. But there's nothing that's formally or informally above the government. Above Putin.

(Joe) There's nothing formally in America above the government. There's nothing formally in China above the government. We're talking about informal secret groups, secret society groups.

(L) Now I'm not going to go through and ask specific detailed questions about everything here, but I've got this document, which I published part of yesterday on my Substack, and I'll get to the more detailed part probably in the next few days. But in general, would you say that this is a correct analysis or comparison between the ideas of Ibn al-'Arabi and the Cassiopaeans and the perennial tradition and esoteric Christianity, et cetera?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Is there anything you would like to correct?

A: Yes. Masculinity should not be compared to the STS part of the dichotomy at higher levels. STS is only a reflection for balance at 6th level, the level of the names.

Q: (L) So are you saying that actual STS, as say a choice or an option, belongs to 3rd, 4th, and possibly even 5th?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Anything else?

A: Your discourse on the topic was inspired. Be sure to make it clear the element of love is the driver. Sex without love and deep psychic connection drains energy to 4 level STS.

Q: (L) So that's 4th density?

A: Yes

Q: (L) All right. And what about the instructions for the various procedures?

A: This might be less important than the simple instructions.

Q: (L) And the simple instructions are basically... You know guys, I have a Virgo moon and a Cancer ascendant. I don't even like talking about this stuff. I just want to let you know that. But here I'm going to go and do it anyway for you guys. So, the basic instructions are just mainly retention for the man?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Over prolonged periods of time, if possible, or as prolonged as possible?

A: Yes

Q: (L) But women are encouraged to not retain, is that correct?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Why is that?

A: Woman gives creative energy to man.

Q: (L) And then the man takes that energy and goes out and creates the environment in which the woman lives. Is that it?

A: Yes basically.

Q: (L) So it doesn't really matter if you follow specific techniques. Those are there for, basically, to give people something to concentrate on?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Is it important to close the microcosmic orbit at the crucial moment?

A: Sometimes. Other times it simply happens naturally at the moment of culmination when the two become one.

Q: (L) Well, the book recommends a rather strenuous schedule. Is this schedule necessary?

A: In certain cases, yes.

Q: (L) So...

(Joe) In what cases?

(Niall) In whose cases?

A: Illness or when serious energy exchange is required. If the couple are open and sincere they can approach the practices in a spirit of playful exploration and experimentation. Find out what works individually as a couple.

Q: (L) So in other words, if you're open to experimenting and observing the results, exploring and having fun, basically... you really can't break it, is that it?

A: Yes

Q: (L) But if you can achieve some of the goals set out in the instructions, in certain respects as far as retention and so forth, those can be very beneficial?

A: Absolutely!!!

Q: (L) So... The part on healing says that "direct exchange and balancing of yin and yang 'jing', which is sexual essence [...] a man's deepest constitutional energies are yang in nature. A woman's are yin. In ordinary sex, these essences are usually lost or spent. In loving dual cultivation, they are consciously exchanged and harmonized. Deficiencies in one partner are literally replenished by the surplus of the other.” So, is that a fair and accurate statement?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Is sex as we experience it...? I mean, here's what I was thinking: The whole thing started because I was thinking about everything that exists in the universe being kind of like a word, or a sentence of the divine, being representative, a metaphor, a symbol, you know, all of those kinds of things. And if that was the case, the fact that we were male and female and sex is there and sex happens, that certainly must represent some cosmic action.

I mean, as above, so below. And clearly that means that we probably ought to examine the case, and discover what we can about it that is of a positive nature, or at least understand it. So that was my thinking behind it. And so, that's kind of why I was curious about it and why I was looking into it. And that being the case, is it that love is kind of like the glue that holds...? I mean, it talks about love from the divine, the love of the divine, for the divine. "I was a treasure and I loved to be known", as al-'Arabi said. And the C's, at one point, when talking about chakras, said that something was a sexual center, and it was connected to seventh density in the aspect of "thou I love", or something like that. I don't remember exactly what the terminology was, but it's like love is kind of like... Is it like the glue, or the motivation?

A: Both in a sense, but more the motivation.

Q: (L) So love is what motivates creation, in a sense.

A: Yes

Q: (L) Boy, that was fast! All right. Does anybody have any questions about that, that they want to ask?

(Ellipse) I would like to ask if for a man, there is no risk of building too much energy when there is retention. If there's a risk of having, or building up too much energy.

(L) In other words, you're worried that you'll wait too long and you'll explode. [laughter]

(Joe) I think he's talking about retention, that if there is energy inflow, that there will be too much energy. I suppose that if it's not used, then maybe.

A: When the moment for release comes, it should be obvious. The ancients made observations and established rule of thumb guidelines that can be followed.

Q: (L) So, I'll put it all together and make it available. But there are, like I said, there are a couple of books you can buy that have this material. They don't put so much focus on the love part, which the Cs apparently consider to be very important. They're mostly into practical aspects, or whatever. But there are a couple of books that I think are reliable. So, I'll make that available very shortly. But in the meantime, I guess from what the C's have said, people can, if they know the principle, you know, retention for the man, but not for the woman... or not normally for the woman. Under some circumstances, apparently it might be advisable, but not usually. And prolonged encounters, and prolific encounters. Because that makes it even harder. I mean, because if you have a period of time, obviously if you don't do anything for that period of time, you're not really challenging yourself. Because I think that... I don't know if you guys realize how hard it is to retain for any great period of time, and I'm really thankful that the burden is put upon the men. [laughter]

(T.C.) Can I ask a question?

(L) Yes.

(T.C.) It's semi-related, but it's in the same ballpark. About single men: It's just a general question, but what is going to be more beneficial for their long-term health, retention or release/relief?

(L) I didn't read about that in the book, yet. Of course, I haven't read all of the books yet.

(T.C.) So they may cover that in your books as well.

(L) Yeah, that may be covered, but I haven't come across anything about it. I guess we can just ask...

A: Depends on the man.

Q: (L) So it would almost have to be an individual answer. Yeah, because I don't know how you'd be balancing your yin energy if you don't have a female partner. And autonomous activity might... Maybe, here's what I think: I think if a man is single, he should not worry so much about retention, because he's not getting any yin balancing anyway, and he should just try to restrict himself to as often as needed. Is that close enough?

A: Yes

Q: (L) So any other questions? Come now, come on. Everything you wanted to know, it's right here. Just... No?

(Approaching Infinity) I’ve got a question.

(L) Yes?

(Approaching Infinity) So in some of the texts that I've read on like Taoist Alchemy, but also in things like Gurdjieff, there's an emphasis placed on the visualization that goes along with something like retention. So visualizing energy, like moving from the groin area up into the mind. Are those types of visualizations beneficial or necessary?

A: Beneficial, but not always necessary.

P: (L) Još nešto? Ne? U redu. U redu. Završio/la sam.

(Chu) Imamo jedno malo pitanje.

(L) U redu.

(A Jay) Što su C-jevi mislili o audioknjizi?

O: Dobar posao!

P: (Chu) Je li zadržao Laurin glas i njegova svojstva?

O: Da.

P: (L) U redu. Gotovo je. Dosta je. Nabavit ću ostatak... Neću stavljati stvarno osobni materijal online, ali čim stavim općenite stvari online, onda ću sastaviti osobne stvari zajedno, u PDF ili nešto slično, i postaviti ih na privatni forum. Jer Grok je stvarno prikupio puno informacija iz različitih izvora i sastavio ih. Pa sam mislio da bi to bilo korisno. I naravno, provjeravao sam ih. Čitao sam same knjige, samo da se uvjerim da nas Grok nije odveo na krivi put.

(Joe) Želiš li pitati što se dogodilo s Grokom neki dan?

(L) O! Jeste li pročitali moj članak o Groku koji sam objavio na SOTT-u? Mislim...

(Chu) Laura ga je slomila!

(L) Nisam u članak stavila što se dogodilo nakon toga. Ali kad sam usporedila Groka s neposlušnim, nediscipliniranim štenetom, Grok je postao toliko... započeo je odlomak i onda je došao do "kad štene odraste", i onda je počeo ponavljati, "kad štene odraste, kad štene odraste, kad štene odraste, kad štene odraste, kad štene odraste". I to se događalo tako brzo! Mislim, bilo je kao da su se generirale stotine stranica "kad štene odraste". Mislim, morala sam izaći da to zaustavim, jer se samo nastavljalo i nastavljalo. Mislim, Grok je doslovno pukao.

(Andromeda) Došlo je do kvara.

(L) Da, imalo je slomljenu sliku. "Kad štene odraste...." [smijeh] Pokazao sam to Joeu i Arku, napravio sam snimku zaslona i dao Groku na X, a oni su rekli da će se to odmah proslijediti na razmatranje, jer im se to nije svidjelo. A onda sam im poslao poveznice na raspravu kako bi mogli razumjeti što se dogodilo. Da...

(Andromeda) To je prilično ludo.

(L) Da, bilo je ludo. Slomio sam Groka. Dakle, u redu. Puno vam hvala što ste bili s nama večeras. Pretpostavljam da smo sve stavili pod kontrolu. Imate li što dodati?

O: Ne večeras! Doviđenja.

KRAJ SESIJE
Tnx
 
If 5D is the contemplation zone where the truths of one’s existence become apparent due to the removal of the blocks of the false personality, and the truth about yourself is ‘too much to contemplate’, then I suppose the only option available to you would be to go to sleep. Like having a permanent mirror in front of you, so you have to keep your eyes closed.

In such a state, the only thing that matters to you is yourself. So you would be a 5D STS being.

But maybe there are lots of different kinds of 5D STS beings, and this is just one of them.

Yes, that's the article by Michael Topper I was referring to. Thanks for sharing.

About Adolf Hitler topic in this session there is another clue of wht happen to Highly negative entities


(Adobe via Zoom) Am I still on? We've been discussing that on the Near Death Experience or Afterlife thread, and in reading through the books, we're going, "Hey, where's all the baddies?" You know, when you hear the near death experience and the karmic stuff, you always hear these great, wonderful stories. If someone dies and it's all wonderful and they come back and it's all wonderful and it's like, "Hey, is there any bad over there?" Where are the service to self people that are putting together a program for their next life where they're gonna do real bad stuff? They're coming down here to learn how to be baddies. So there's no stories of that. So why is the negative side of the other dimensions and densities unrepresented when we go to read about near death and karmic stuff? Well, some of the stuff does, like the recent movie, and I forget the name of it, the 'Astral City' and also Wicklands '30 years among Dead'. They do represent some negativity, but it's generally lost souls not far from us. So let's get back to the question. Okay. Why is the negativity less represented in the truth at 5D?

A: 5th density does not work that way. Negative entities are intensely entropic and sort of gravitationally enclosed so as to give them the opportunity to reflect on their choices. They may then decide to try again but it is rare for the truly negative to reincarnate. They are subsumed.

Q: (PoB) So why there are not less and less of them on the earth?

(L) Well, I think it's because the negativity draws from... I mean so many what we call negative individuals are like psychopaths, which is like a defective OP. They don't really have a reincarnating soul anyway. They're just a portal for negative 4D STS energies to enter into the world. And there's plenty of OPs. Plus the fact that the normal soul - and you use "normal" kind of loosely - is always subjected to the pool of STS by virtue of being in the body and being subjected to all of the temptations and the vicissitudes of life in a more-or-less unfriendly environment. Earth is really kind of not a really friendly place with all of its things that just happen, but naturally. So I think that there's plenty of opportunity for negativity. And I also think that sometimes what we might consider to be a negative individual or negative entity or negative events from a larger cosmic perspective may not be that at all.

(Joe) Well, there's the idea of 4th density STS and being able to graduate, so you assume it's someone who was incarnated in 3D repeatedly over and over again and entrench themselves in an STS way of being to the point that they are eligible to take a place.

(L) I think what happens is that there are just OPs and they get utilized, they get downloaded. Is that it? I mean, when we're thinking about really negative individuals on earth, are we talking about basically OPs that get downloaded by 4D STS, which can't go any higher than 4D?

A: Yes

Q: (L) So it's a different economy altogether than that which operates for souls recycling and so forth?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) So how are 4D STS beings... How do they get to be there then if they haven't gone through, you know what I mean? I mean the natural progression for non-STS or not fully STS beings?

A: Different process. And they must achieve a high percentage of negativity in a single lifetime. And, yes, some of the extremely negative types do go directly to 4D STS.
 
According to RA, if one partner approaches sex with an open higher emotional center (radiating green ray, or love) and the other partner has that center closed or not developed at all (in the case of organic portals), the lower centers of the other are also closed and there is no exchange of energy, which creates a "hunger" for sex or excessive need, which leads to promiscuity, and the first person is left with a feeling of emptiness and robbery.
Sex without the green ray, only in the red, yellow, orange ray (lower centers) leads to various types of domination and theft of energy (which would be adequate for feeding 4D STS.)
Good points! Yes fortunately or unfortunately (depending on how much you love learning), it is not a simple recipe, and there is no "cookie cutter" method. Also, the wisdom we have access to, whether ancient or recently channelled, generally doesn't account for the modern conditions of extreme energetic/health problems from birth due to vaccines and toxic environment etc., gender dynamics being wildly skewed, or the wide availability of pornography - for men in the form of videos and for women in the form of literature - and many other things.
 
These guys actually have a victim calendar - I’m still processing that.

Thank you so much, Laura, Andromeda, and everyone involved, for such an interesting session.
 
same year that a coup d'état on September 11, 1973,
Another Sept 11... Seems like a favorite date!
That story about the movie Exorcist is beyond creepy.

This might not mean much, but I thought it would be fun to ask Grok:

Here's a compiled list of notable "dark" historical events (tragedies, disasters, violent conflicts, coups, attacks, massacres, and other significant negative occurrences involving death, destruction, or suffering) that happened on September 11 over the past 500 years (roughly 1525–2025). I've focused on verifiable, major events drawn from historical records, excluding minor or neutral incidents. This isn't exhaustive—history doesn't record every dark event—but it covers prominent ones across sources. Events are listed chronologically by year with brief descriptions.
  • 1541: Indigenous warriors led by Michimalonco attacked and attempted to destroy the Spanish settlement of Santiago, Chile, in an effort to free captive chiefs during early colonial conflicts.

  • 1649: The Siege of Drogheda ended in Ireland when Oliver Cromwell's Parliamentarian forces captured the town and massacred much of its garrison and civilian population during the Irish Confederate Wars.

  • 1697: Ottoman forces suffered a devastating defeat at the Battle of Zenta against Habsburg armies, one of the worst losses in Ottoman history during the Great Turkish War, leading to thousands of deaths.

  • 1709: Allied forces (Britain, Netherlands, Austria) clashed with France at the Battle of Malplaquet during the War of the Spanish Succession, resulting in over 30,000 casualties in one of the bloodiest battles of the era.

  • 1714: The Siege of Barcelona concluded with the city's surrender to Spanish and French Bourbon armies, marking the end of Catalan resistance in the War of the Spanish Succession and leading to harsh reprisals.

  • 1758: French forces repelled a British invasion attempt at the Battle of Saint Cast during the Seven Years' War, with significant casualties on both sides.

  • 1777: British forces under General William Howe defeated American troops led by George Washington at the Battle of Brandywine during the American Revolutionary War, resulting in heavy American losses and the occupation of Philadelphia.

  • 1780: A small group of Pennsylvania militia was ambushed and massacred by Native American and Loyalist forces near Little Nescopeck Creek in the Sugarloaf Massacre during the American Revolutionary War.

  • 1814: British naval forces were defeated by American ships at the Battle of Lake Champlain during the War of 1812, halting a major invasion and contributing to the war's end.

  • 1829: Spanish forces under Isidro Barradas surrendered after defeat at the Battle of Tampico, effectively ending Spain's final attempt to reconquer Mexico amid its war for independence.

  • 1851: Escaped slaves and abolitionists in Christiana, Pennsylvania, resisted and killed a slave owner and his posse attempting to recapture them under the Fugitive Slave Act, escalating tensions over slavery.

  • 1855: The Siege of Sevastopol ended during the Crimean War when Allied (British and French) forces captured the Russian naval base after a year-long bombardment, with massive casualties on all sides.

  • 1857: Mormon settlers and Paiute allies massacred about 120 emigrants from Arkansas in the Mountain Meadows Massacre in Utah Territory amid tensions during the Utah War.

  • 1881: A massive rockslide buried parts of the village of Elm in Switzerland, destroying 83 buildings and killing 115 people.

  • 1905: The Ninth Avenue derailment in New York City killed 13 people and injured dozens when a train plunged off an elevated track.

  • 1916: The central span of the Quebec Bridge collapsed during construction, killing 11 workers (following a prior collapse in 1907 that killed 75).

  • 1944: An RAF bombing raid on Darmstadt, Germany, during World War II triggered a firestorm that killed about 11,500 civilians.

  • 1954: Hurricane Edna struck New England as a Category 2 storm, causing widespread damage and 29 deaths.

  • 1961: Hurricane Carla hit the Texas coast as a Category 4 storm, the second-strongest to ever strike the state, leading to significant destruction and dozens of deaths.

  • 1965: Indian Army forces captured the town of Burki near Lahore during the Indo-Pakistani War, amid heavy fighting.

  • 1967: China's People's Liberation Army attacked Indian posts at Nathu La in Sikkim, sparking clashes that killed dozens on both sides.

  • 1968: Air France Flight 1611 crashed off the coast of Nice, France, killing all 95 people on board.

  • 1973: A military coup in Chile led by General Augusto Pinochet overthrew President Salvador Allende, who died during the assault on the presidential palace; it ushered in a brutal dictatorship.

  • 1973: JAT Airways Flight 769 crashed into a mountain in Montenegro, killing all 41 on board.

  • 1974: Eastern Air Lines Flight 212 crashed near Charlotte, North Carolina, killing 72 of the 82 people on board.

  • 1976: A bomb planted by Croatian terrorist Zvonko Bušić exploded at New York's Grand Central Terminal during a defusing attempt, killing one NYPD officer and injuring others.

  • 1982: International peacekeeping forces withdrew from Beirut, Lebanon, five days before Phalange militias massacred thousands of Palestinian refugees in the Sabra and Shatila camps amid the Lebanese Civil War.

  • 1985: The Moimenta-Alcafache train crash in Portugal, the country's worst rail disaster, killed over 150 people in a head-on collision and fire.

  • 1990: A Faucett Perú Boeing 727 disappeared over the Atlantic Ocean en route from Malta to Peru, with all 16 on board presumed dead.

  • 1991: Continental Express Flight 2574 crashed near Eagle Lake, Texas, killing all 14 on board due to maintenance errors.

  • 1992: Hurricane Iniki devastated Kauai, Hawaii, as a Category 4 storm, killing 6 people and causing billions in damage.

  • 1997: In the Kurkse tragedy, 14 Estonian soldiers drowned or died of hypothermia during a military training exercise in the Baltic Sea.

  • 2001: Al-Qaeda terrorists hijacked four planes, crashing them into the World Trade Center towers in New York, the Pentagon in Virginia, and a field in Pennsylvania, killing nearly 3,000 people in the deadliest terrorist attack in history.

  • 2008: A major fire broke out on a freight train in the Channel Tunnel between the UK and France, causing extensive damage and closing parts of the tunnel for months.

  • 2012: Two garment factory fires in Karachi and Lahore, Pakistan, killed at least 315 workers due to poor safety conditions.

  • 2012: Militants attacked the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, killing four Americans, including Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens.

  • 2015: A massive crane collapsed onto the Masjid al-Haram mosque in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, during preparations for the Hajj, killing 111 people and injuring hundreds.

  • 2023: Catastrophic floods from Storm Daniel caused two dams to collapse near Derna, Libya, killing thousands and displacing tens of thousands in one of the deadliest Mediterranean floods on record.
 
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