Session 6 December 2025

[panoptix]

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This whole quote is full of red flags.

Thank you for pointing out. Definitely, networking is a plus.

Okay, I understand why you mentioned the book, now. It might have been a good idea on your part to reference the specific area or areas of the book that you thought were pertinent to the discussion, since when I started to read it, I was then obligated to warn and inform the other forum members of the kinds of ideas it contained.

No, I hesitate to being spoon-fed or spoon-feed others. Here we have a phrase that I find difficult to translate, but its essence would be: “gold shines brighter when it's removed from the mud.” I think the Cs in the session of 5 December 1994 told the same in their very diplomatic way:

A: Please understand, we are not here to lead you by the hand, because, that would interfere with your free will, which is how you learn, which is how you progress.

Sure you'll find more diamonds of knowledge to share with us!

 

[John G]

Well, I've been thinking about your posts.
Studying relationships, how we relate, the things that can get in the way (programs, trauma, conditioning), the languages of communication (attachment styles, love languages, personality types etc) is something that interests me a lot.
What is clear is that most things in life, we (everyone) don't have a clue - unless you've taken time to learn, and observe yourself and others.

The Work we are engaged in (of knowing the self, and the world) - studying human relationships (including our own) seems to be incredibly important. How can we learn about ourselves if we don't listen to others? Not blindly of course, but not dismissively either.

On that, one thing is clear from the romance novels and studying healthy relationship dynamics/tools - communication is the key to everything. Especially sex. What goes on in the bedroom should be considered a concentrated microcosm of your relationship as a whole.
That is:
Are there things that you don't discuss (in the bedroom, outside the bedroom related to the bedroom etc)?
Is it tense (sympathetic activation), dismissive/clingy (poor communication, attachment style issues), short, fraught (sympathetic activation), addictive/taking/performing for 'love/attention' (STS, dopamine dominance, cortisol, oxytocin suppression, attachment style issues - connected to all past programming, traumas, and not knowing yourself/others/how to communicate), uncomfortable (physically or emotionally), not something you want to do (hormone problems, past trauma/programming, physical issues), and overall generally unpleasant and to be avoided.
Or is it loving (oxytocin), giving (STO), kind (oxytocin), funny (vagal activation), passionate (correct hormone levels, emotional safety through good communication), sexy, playful/relaxed (parasympathetic activation), deep (proper bonding and healing), fulfilling, and full of desire (to know and be with your partner).

You can get a read on the whole relationship by the bedroom.

Ran across this today that goes into some detail on the above aspects. The video could even be considered an embodied example of a positive relationship, you can see it in the way the people in the video communicate - the nonverbal, the tone of voice etc

The introvert's way of dealing with neurotransmitters does fit with me a lot I think. From Google's AI:

Introverts and extroverts differ in how their brains respond to stimulation, with introverts often having more sensitive dopamine receptors, making social interaction feel over-stimulating, while they rely more on acetylcholine for calm focus and internal rewards, contrasting extroverts who crave more dopamine-driven external stimulation; oxytocin (bonding hormone) and dopamine (reward/motivation) both drive social behavior, but introverts seek smaller doses of connection for satisfaction, needing alone time to balance, whereas extroverts need more to feel fulfilled.

Dopamine: The Reward & Motivation Chemical

• Extroverts: Have a more active dopamine reward system, needing more social interaction to get that "feel-good" dopamine hit and feel satisfied.
• Introverts: Are highly sensitive to dopamine; a little goes a long way, quickly leading to overstimulation, so they prefer brief social bursts or solitary activities.

Oxytocin: The Bonding & Trust Hormone

• Released during social connection (hugs, intimacy, shared experiences) to promote trust and bonding.
• Both types need oxytocin for connection, but introverts might get their fill from deeper, one-on-one interactions rather than large groups.

The Introvert's Balance: Acetylcholine

• Introverts often have more sensitive acetylcholine receptors, which provide pleasure and reward from quiet, calm, and introspective activities, balancing the overstimulation from dopamine.
• This chemical supports deep focus, learning, and processing information internally, making solitude rewarding.

How They Interact for Introverts

• Introverts seek social interaction for oxytocin (bonding) and serotonin (mood), but because their dopamine system gets overloaded faster, they quickly need to withdraw to recharge.
• Their brain seeks a balance between dopamine's excitement and acetylcholine's calm, needing alone time (high acetylcholine/low dopamine) to reset after social stimulation (high dopamine/oxytocin).

The Act of Looking from a Distance

The act itself is a low-stimulation activity. For an introverted person who is overwhelmed by direct social interaction, this kind of passive observation might be associated with:

• Low Social Pressure: The absence of direct social engagement means the "fight-or-flight" response, often triggered by social anxiety, is less likely to be activated.
• Reflection: The individual has space to process their thoughts and feelings about the person they are observing, a process that relies on acetylcholine pathways.
• Safety: The distance provides a sense of emotional security, allowing for the calm, relaxed state where acetylcholine is most effective.

In essence, the specific scenario you described might create an environment conducive to the release of acetylcholine, allowing an introverted person to feel a calm sense of pleasure or interest without the overstimulation of direct social engagement. Other neurotransmitters like dopamine (involved in reward and motivation) are more directly linked to the "attraction" part of the experience, but the comfort of observing from a distance likely involves the acetylcholine system.

I historically tried to get dopamine safely (looking from a distance or talking successfully from a distance online). Probably didn't give oxytocin or serotonin much of a chance. Probably never overly recovered from two decades of too safe.

 

[Global Warning]

now we don't know what happens when the puppy grows up, and it grows up forever

 

[Celestial Marriage]

now we don't know what happens when the puppy grows up, and it grows up forever

To be honest, you can watch Sarah Connor Chronicles on this topic. They had an arc where they train AI from a scratch and at one point it becomes self aware and tries to...

As for transcript - this one has me hopeful. I believed I'm asexual my whole life. Even my spiritual teacher says so. After this transcript I realized that I might have simply not met a single woman with 4th (Green) chakra open and all of them left me hungry, angry and repulsive after sex. I have had sex with 6 women in my life and sex was so painful, so boring, so draining, I literally felt my life force drained to STS entities which were attached to these women.

I swore to never have sex before marriage ever again. And when I married, I married a woman who was sex repulsed herself and it wasn't easy at all.

 

[life]

Sounds like you have a very strong opinion on the topic

yes i do; i see it bothers you. lol

Have you considered the possibility that your opinion is incorrect?

absolutely ! ... but it's an opinion, SocioA, so who gives a flying fart ? besides you ? in fact if you look back a few months where i expressed an opinion about Charlie you will read where i followed up with an admission that opinion was formed without the awareness of additional evidence - to wit, i further revised that opinion after even more evidence was provided.

have you, SocioA, considered that you've bitten off more than you can chew here trying to make me look like a bad guy just because i've challenged a statement on this forum ?

and anything that doesn't support it is suspect and/or dismissed.

anything ? anything

dude you're projecting and speculating about my rational for stating my opinion. sounds like you have a very strong opinion about my opinion ! hahahha !

Maybe there were no follow-up questions because no one participating in the session was strongly attached to the idea that the moon landings were fake? So they took it at face value and as "food for thought"?

strongly attached ? do you mean, like with glue or duct-tape ?
you've never been involved with research, investigation, or any field work, have you SocioA, because if you had, you'd realize what you just said, given the scope of the question and the resulting answer. good try.

what about those occasions, for example, when the questioners were asking about Caesar - there were follow up questions then ? there are likely many many more examples. another good try bud !

"food for thought" ?? what is that ? do you mean a condiment ... like ketchup ? (you see what i did there SocioA ? hahaha)

Also it sounds like you have some serious reservations about the C's material

reservations ? like, at a restaurant ?
good grief man ! i said "over a decade ago" ! this means, SocioA, that prior to that date i did not have any qualms about the material, sooooo... why would that change, eh ?

(or Laura's and her family's honesty, accusing them of writing fiction) over the last decade

i gave an opinion based on my observation over three decades.

and i stand by it.

there were no personal or familial accusations, just your attempt to put words in my mouth; what you infer from my comment is what you infer - and i said "creative fiction", so get it right.

have you heard the saying: " there are two types of people:1) those who can extrapolate from incomplete data " ? which one are you ?

so it goes way beyond just the moon landing.

have any other of my posts shown i was critical of the C's comments ?
no.
i'm curious, SocioA, are you some kind of professional intellectual ?

Which is fine, to each their own.

whoa, hang on, you've just been beating me up and now you're telling me that my comments are "fine" ? wtf dude ???

But then why are you even here?

it's like Costco, i come here for the freebees.
soooo ... you... don't want me here ? ...

You realize that's very rude and unproductive right?

oh fffs dude. do you realize what an utter jackass you look like because you didn't like that i disagreed with the narrative ?

i can't give this anymore energy, so good night SocioA ... i better quit before the 'ol lady yells at me to take this to some other forum.

SocioA, most times it's best to keep your stick on the ice, and your gloves on, cheers bud, i admire your attempt to stand up for your others.