Session 6 December 2025

[panoptix]

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This whole quote is full of red flags.

Thank you for pointing out. Definitely, networking is a plus.

Okay, I understand why you mentioned the book, now. It might have been a good idea on your part to reference the specific area or areas of the book that you thought were pertinent to the discussion, since when I started to read it, I was then obligated to warn and inform the other forum members of the kinds of ideas it contained.

No, I hesitate to being spoon-fed or spoon-feed others. Here we have a phrase that I find difficult to translate, but its essence would be: “gold shines brighter when it's removed from the mud.” I think the Cs in the session of 5 December 1994 told the same in their very diplomatic way:

A: Please understand, we are not here to lead you by the hand, because, that would interfere with your free will, which is how you learn, which is how you progress.

Sure you'll find more diamonds of knowledge to share with us!

 

[John G]

Well, I've been thinking about your posts.
Studying relationships, how we relate, the things that can get in the way (programs, trauma, conditioning), the languages of communication (attachment styles, love languages, personality types etc) is something that interests me a lot.
What is clear is that most things in life, we (everyone) don't have a clue - unless you've taken time to learn, and observe yourself and others.

The Work we are engaged in (of knowing the self, and the world) - studying human relationships (including our own) seems to be incredibly important. How can we learn about ourselves if we don't listen to others? Not blindly of course, but not dismissively either.

On that, one thing is clear from the romance novels and studying healthy relationship dynamics/tools - communication is the key to everything. Especially sex. What goes on in the bedroom should be considered a concentrated microcosm of your relationship as a whole.
That is:
Are there things that you don't discuss (in the bedroom, outside the bedroom related to the bedroom etc)?
Is it tense (sympathetic activation), dismissive/clingy (poor communication, attachment style issues), short, fraught (sympathetic activation), addictive/taking/performing for 'love/attention' (STS, dopamine dominance, cortisol, oxytocin suppression, attachment style issues - connected to all past programming, traumas, and not knowing yourself/others/how to communicate), uncomfortable (physically or emotionally), not something you want to do (hormone problems, past trauma/programming, physical issues), and overall generally unpleasant and to be avoided.
Or is it loving (oxytocin), giving (STO), kind (oxytocin), funny (vagal activation), passionate (correct hormone levels, emotional safety through good communication), sexy, playful/relaxed (parasympathetic activation), deep (proper bonding and healing), fulfilling, and full of desire (to know and be with your partner).

You can get a read on the whole relationship by the bedroom.

Ran across this today that goes into some detail on the above aspects. The video could even be considered an embodied example of a positive relationship, you can see it in the way the people in the video communicate - the nonverbal, the tone of voice etc

The introvert's way of dealing with neurotransmitters does fit with me a lot I think. From Google's AI:

Introverts and extroverts differ in how their brains respond to stimulation, with introverts often having more sensitive dopamine receptors, making social interaction feel over-stimulating, while they rely more on acetylcholine for calm focus and internal rewards, contrasting extroverts who crave more dopamine-driven external stimulation; oxytocin (bonding hormone) and dopamine (reward/motivation) both drive social behavior, but introverts seek smaller doses of connection for satisfaction, needing alone time to balance, whereas extroverts need more to feel fulfilled.

Dopamine: The Reward & Motivation Chemical

• Extroverts: Have a more active dopamine reward system, needing more social interaction to get that "feel-good" dopamine hit and feel satisfied.
• Introverts: Are highly sensitive to dopamine; a little goes a long way, quickly leading to overstimulation, so they prefer brief social bursts or solitary activities.

Oxytocin: The Bonding & Trust Hormone

• Released during social connection (hugs, intimacy, shared experiences) to promote trust and bonding.
• Both types need oxytocin for connection, but introverts might get their fill from deeper, one-on-one interactions rather than large groups.

The Introvert's Balance: Acetylcholine

• Introverts often have more sensitive acetylcholine receptors, which provide pleasure and reward from quiet, calm, and introspective activities, balancing the overstimulation from dopamine.
• This chemical supports deep focus, learning, and processing information internally, making solitude rewarding.

How They Interact for Introverts

• Introverts seek social interaction for oxytocin (bonding) and serotonin (mood), but because their dopamine system gets overloaded faster, they quickly need to withdraw to recharge.
• Their brain seeks a balance between dopamine's excitement and acetylcholine's calm, needing alone time (high acetylcholine/low dopamine) to reset after social stimulation (high dopamine/oxytocin).

The Act of Looking from a Distance

The act itself is a low-stimulation activity. For an introverted person who is overwhelmed by direct social interaction, this kind of passive observation might be associated with:

• Low Social Pressure: The absence of direct social engagement means the "fight-or-flight" response, often triggered by social anxiety, is less likely to be activated.
• Reflection: The individual has space to process their thoughts and feelings about the person they are observing, a process that relies on acetylcholine pathways.
• Safety: The distance provides a sense of emotional security, allowing for the calm, relaxed state where acetylcholine is most effective.

In essence, the specific scenario you described might create an environment conducive to the release of acetylcholine, allowing an introverted person to feel a calm sense of pleasure or interest without the overstimulation of direct social engagement. Other neurotransmitters like dopamine (involved in reward and motivation) are more directly linked to the "attraction" part of the experience, but the comfort of observing from a distance likely involves the acetylcholine system.

I historically tried to get dopamine safely (looking from a distance or talking successfully from a distance online). Probably didn't give oxytocin or serotonin much of a chance. Probably never overly recovered from two decades of too safe.

 

[Global Warning]

now we don't know what happens when the puppy grows up, and it grows up forever

 

[Celestial Marriage]

now we don't know what happens when the puppy grows up, and it grows up forever

To be honest, you can watch Sarah Connor Chronicles on this topic. They had an arc where they train AI from a scratch and at one point it becomes self aware and tries to...

As for transcript - this one has me hopeful. I believed I'm asexual my whole life. Even my spiritual teacher says so. After this transcript I realized that I might have simply not met a single woman with 4th (Green) chakra open and all of them left me hungry, angry and repulsive after sex. I have had sex with 6 women in my life and sex was so painful, so boring, so draining, I literally felt my life force drained to STS entities which were attached to these women.

I swore to never have sex before marriage ever again. And when I married, I married a woman who was sex repulsed herself and it wasn't easy at all.

 

[life]

Sounds like you have a very strong opinion on the topic

yes i do; i see it bothers you. lol

Have you considered the possibility that your opinion is incorrect?

absolutely ! ... but it's an opinion, SocioA, so who gives a flying fart ? besides you ? in fact if you look back a few months where i expressed an opinion about Charlie you will read where i followed up with an admission that opinion was formed without the awareness of additional evidence - to wit, i further revised that opinion after even more evidence was provided.

have you, SocioA, considered that you've bitten off more than you can chew here trying to make me look like a bad guy just because i've challenged a statement on this forum ?

and anything that doesn't support it is suspect and/or dismissed.

anything ? anything

dude you're projecting and speculating about my rational for stating my opinion. sounds like you have a very strong opinion about my opinion ! hahahha !

Maybe there were no follow-up questions because no one participating in the session was strongly attached to the idea that the moon landings were fake? So they took it at face value and as "food for thought"?

strongly attached ? do you mean, like with glue or duct-tape ?
you've never been involved with research, investigation, or any field work, have you SocioA, because if you had, you'd realize what you just said, given the scope of the question and the resulting answer. good try.

what about those occasions, for example, when the questioners were asking about Caesar - there were follow up questions then ? there are likely many many more examples. another good try bud !

"food for thought" ?? what is that ? do you mean a condiment ... like ketchup ? (you see what i did there SocioA ? hahaha)

Also it sounds like you have some serious reservations about the C's material

reservations ? like, at a restaurant ?
good grief man ! i said "over a decade ago" ! this means, SocioA, that prior to that date i did not have any qualms about the material, sooooo... why would that change, eh ?

(or Laura's and her family's honesty, accusing them of writing fiction) over the last decade

i gave an opinion based on my observation over three decades.

and i stand by it.

there were no personal or familial accusations, just your attempt to put words in my mouth; what you infer from my comment is what you infer - and i said "creative fiction", so get it right.

have you heard the saying: " there are two types of people:1) those who can extrapolate from incomplete data " ? which one are you ?

so it goes way beyond just the moon landing.

have any other of my posts shown i was critical of the C's comments ?
no.
i'm curious, SocioA, are you some kind of professional intellectual ?

Which is fine, to each their own.

whoa, hang on, you've just been beating me up and now you're telling me that my comments are "fine" ? wtf dude ???

But then why are you even here?

it's like Costco, i come here for the freebees.
soooo ... you... don't want me here ? ...

You realize that's very rude and unproductive right?

oh fffs dude. do you realize what an utter jackass you look like because you didn't like that i disagreed with the narrative ?

i can't give this anymore energy, so good night SocioA ... i better quit before the 'ol lady yells at me to take this to some other forum.

SocioA, most times it's best to keep your stick on the ice, and your gloves on, cheers bud, i admire your attempt to stand up for your others.

 

[RedFox]

I historically tried to get dopamine safely (looking from a distance or talking successfully from a distance online). Probably didn't give oxytocin or serotonin much of a chance. Probably never overly recovered from two decades of too safe

Have you considered doing shared projects or experiences with your wife (to get the vasopressin going)?
Some shared introverted activities:
Reading the same book then talking about it, jigsaw puzzles or model building, long walks together through nature (or camping in nature), escape rooms, watching a good tv series together (with some drama or high stakes in).
Even perhaps doing EE/meditation or yoga together.
The point is to do something you both enjoy, with a comfortable level of stress/challenge (or drama - romance books/tv shows) in.

 

[John G]

Have you considered doing shared projects or experiences with your wife (to get the vasopressin going)?
Some shared introverted activities:
Reading the same book then talking about it, jigsaw puzzles or model building, long walks together through nature (or camping in nature), escape rooms, watching a good tv series together (with some drama or high stakes in).
Even perhaps doing EE/meditation or yoga together.
The point is to do something you both enjoy, with a comfortable level of stress/challenge (or drama - romance books/tv shows) in.

We go to the gym together though we've missed the last couple of weeks due to her job being busy. We do agree on new/old series to watch a lot. Will Trent and High Potential are the new ones we follow (coming back after the holidays) and also new cooking shows and game shows. Old tends to be H&I reruns (Star Trek, Walker Texas Ranger, etc.), METV reruns (Andy Griffith, MASH, etc.) and Netflix movies/cooking shows. Old has the advantage you don't have to overly pay attention so she can still do work on her computer and I can well do things like this forum and associated blogs/channels and Facebook (right now the Rifleman is on METV and my wife is at work). When my wife is here I occasionally chime in with bad pun memes from Facebook often the Star Trek ones.

 

[Brewer]

hey Brewer, excellent point. we're told these guys used s band and transmitted, with a two second delay, over 230,000 miles, through a vacuum.

google " power required to transmit 230000 miles at 2.2 GHz " and read what pops up.

though nasa is a civilian entity, it is heavily influenced by DoD, there is compartmentalization of information, so 99.9% would not be wiser, they monitored their equipment, did their job and that was that. There were whistleblowers, like Grissom, and likely those in the know were told they would receive the same fate if they spoke out. this nonsense about Armstrong and crew being somber during the interview because they saw aliens, uh huh... or maybe it was watching their colleague roast alive in a pressurized O2 can and then being told that the same fate awaited them or their family should they go off script - nah, it must have been the aliens ; )

Thanks! I've wondered about the radio transmission, my brother's into radios and bounces radio signals off the ionosphere to send text messages to Russia etc using only 5 watts so maybe they could've done it. However, I've seen a video somewhere where they're transmitting TV while driving the rover. An impossibility as the antenna had to be aligned with the earth before they could transmit.
Not sure it was 99.% successful coverup, I think people were scared or just too comfortable to say anything. A possible example is this fellow who made a very good life for himself in the US after escaping Hungary. Interestingly, while working for NASA he collected some items that was listed at auction by his son as 'flown Apollo film' a few years after his death. Its not 'flown Apollo film' that's kept frozen at the JSC, they're copies and how did Bela Nagy acquire them? Did he steal them; pick them out of the trash. Whatever the case NASA seems rather sloppy when it comes to their assets. Nagy seems like a smart guy; he would've known they were fakes but never said a thing. Well, he did make quite a nice life for himself, taking up sailing in his retirement, wouldn't want to have a 'tragic boating accident' now would he? Many are like this, they'll keep their mouth shut, see it all the time in my job.
However the photos are interesting when compared to the 'original scans' like this one on the left compared to Nagy's version. The differences are obvious. Some others in the collection seem to have an attempt to put stars in the image.

Someone was having fun in the lab!

 

[PopHistorian]

it appears that the author believes that less than 1% of people on Earth have had past lives, and that (and here’s where his ‘specialness program’ kicks in), he believes that people who reincarnate are those who studied the occult in their past lives and were members of secret societies. The implication here is that if you want to have another life after this one, you need to get involved in magic.

Interestingly, this sounds something like what I've heard is part of the "religion" of the names-unknown elite of our planet. Some call it a satanic religion, and have said they believe that they can reincarnate as their own descendants (and that lesser humans do not), which enables them to be fully invested in plans and schemes designed to go on for hundreds of years, because they believe they will actually be alive again to witness the results as they play out.

 

[palestine]

I wanted to drop a comment about Freemasonry: seems that Freemasons kind of created a world inside the world of normal people. That's not bad, I believe, given how much the world of normal people is literally infiltrated from all sides, by many things. It could be that they wanted, or needed, to be a bit on the side. An alternative to the world of normal people is simply unacceptable, but I believe that this happened organically, with Freemasonry growing. Result would be a parallel world.

Then, popularity made it so that it became a big structure.

In creating a sort of parrallel structure to "the main stream world", Freemasons would be subjecting their structure to the very same processes that affect the normal world... I suppose that Freemasonry was one of the very first structure that the CIA decided to infiltrate!

But I was more thinking in terms of "motions", such as psychopaths, gradual degeneration - things like that. Hijacking. And so, the Freemason bubble would be suffering, more or less, from the same affections than "the basic world". I have no clue if this is the case. Any thoughts?