Session 6 December 2025
- Thread starter Laura
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Our posts seem to have crossed. Yes, I have read Laura's Secret History of the World but this was quite a while ago and, unfortunately, I don't have a photographic memory. I don't recall the extract you have quoted but it is very interesting. I note that what is said about the meeting between Canseliet and Fulcanelli is based on the second hand testimony of a friend of the former, thus being what English lawyers like myself call 'hearsay evidence'. However, if we take it as an accurate recollection of what happened to Canseliet, then I note that Canseliet was taken by a long roundabout route to a large mountain chateau, which turned out to be an enclave of alchemists. Now Seville is the capital of Andalusia, which is the southern most region of Spain (see map below).
Given the C's have said that the enclave of alchemists is located in the Pyrenees, which are in the extreme north of Spain, Canseliet's journey would certainly have been a long and arduous one, especially in 1954 when the roads were not as good as they are today. We have no indication of how long the journey took but I guess it could have been to the Pyrenees. This would not rule out then that the destination could have been Perillos, although the village is now in France, which would therefore have required a border crossing.
I have proposed Perillos as the possible location of the enclave of alchemists, as it meets many of the requirements. It is remote and the region has a strange history connected to it. It strikes me as very odd that the Treaty of the Pyrenees allowed the Lords of Perillos to maintain ownership of the area but they were not permitted to do anything with the place, making it pretty useless as a parcel of land to exploit. And then there is the strange circumstances in which the village was abandoned with the villagers having scary visions and hearing chanting from underground. By all accounts it is a spooky place to visit even today. The author and researcher Andrew Gough, for example, had an unpleasant experience when visiting there:
Given the C's have said that the enclave of alchemists is located in the Pyrenees, which are in the extreme north of Spain, Canseliet's journey would certainly have been a long and arduous one, especially in 1954 when the roads were not as good as they are today. We have no indication of how long the journey took but I guess it could have been to the Pyrenees. This would not rule out then that the destination could have been Perillos, although the village is now in France, which would therefore have required a border crossing.
I have proposed Perillos as the possible location of the enclave of alchemists, as it meets many of the requirements. It is remote and the region has a strange history connected to it. It strikes me as very odd that the Treaty of the Pyrenees allowed the Lords of Perillos to maintain ownership of the area but they were not permitted to do anything with the place, making it pretty useless as a parcel of land to exploit. And then there is the strange circumstances in which the village was abandoned with the villagers having scary visions and hearing chanting from underground. By all accounts it is a spooky place to visit even today. The author and researcher Andrew Gough, for example, had an unpleasant experience when visiting there:
So, there is high strangeness connected with the place. It lies within an area that was once heavily connected to the Knights Templar who had a major preceptory based in the nearby town of Bezu, a place that the C's connected with their cryptic clue 'zuber':
This area was also strongly connected with the Cathars or Albigensians before they were eradicated by the Inquisition. More importantly, it is also located within a 'window' area and the author Patrice Chaplin claims that there is even a portal on top of the nearby sacred Mount Canigou where she experienced the [4D?] effects of the portal first hand upon reaching the peak (think here of an 'out of the body' time travel experience like those scenarios often depicted in the old US TV show The Twilight Zone). Indeed, she actually found herself travelling in time, which involved, inter alia. seeing Abbe Sauniere staying in Girona with his young mistress whilst also entertaining the celebrated French opera singer Emma Calvé (who had a great interest in the paranormal and was once engaged to the occult author Jules Bois), who was allegedly another one of his mistresses. The experience helped Chaplin to resolve many internal issues that she had had up to that point in time. Quoting from the account of her visit to Perillos:
Perillos is a place also connected to three of the priests involved with the Rennes-le-Chateau mystery including Abbe Sauniere. Sauniere was keen to discover links with certain families who had been based there, which suggests that he seemed to know something about the place.
I may be wrong about Perillos being the location of the mysterious Enclave of Alchemists but to me the place fits the bill. It might be worth raising the matter with the C's to see what they say about it. If it turns out to be a red herring then so be it.
You mention:
I may be wrong about Perillos being the location of the mysterious Enclave of Alchemists but to me the place fits the bill. It might be worth raising the matter with the C's to see what they say about it. If it turns out to be a red herring then so be it.
You mention:
Speaking of the Knights Templar, we should note here that many of the great Gothic cathedrals of France were constructed by, or with the help of, the Knights Templar who played their own part in kick-starting the Renaissance. Almost certainly they would seem to have had a hand in promoting the Grail stories of the early Middle Ages. Was that because they actually possessed the Grail? They also had strong links with some of the masonic guilds who constructed the cathedrals and the sculptures/carvings that adorned them.
Quoting from an article I wrote a while back on the The Roots of Freemasonry:
Tim Wallace-Murphy and Marilyn Hopkins in their book Rosslyn – Guardians of the Secrets of the Holy Grail tell us that various initiatory orders existed among the craftsmen who built the great cathedrals of Western Europe. In England, these craft guild were known as Craftmasons. In France there were at least three such fraternities: The Children of Father Soubise, The Children of Master Jacques and The Children of Solomon. Their spiritual heirs are known as Les Compagnons des Devoirs du Tour de France. All of them observed a moral tradition of chivalry within their craft and a submission to work that must be done. All ‘shared the same bread’ (an outward sign of community and fraternity) and were men ‘who knew how to use a pair of compasses’, which in masonic terms means they had been granted insight into the secret laws, knowledge and harmony of sacred geometry. Quoting English author Ian Duncan in his book The Cathedrals’ Crusade on the importance of this skill, he said: “It is not uncommon in medieval illumination to find God the Father [the Ancient of Days] represented as the “elegans architectus” holding a large pair of compasses”. In modern masonic terms, he represents the Great Architect of the Universe.
The initiated Masons of the Craft were described as a hierarchy of three ascending degrees: apprentice, companion and attained companion or master. As an outward expression of their divinely inspired duties, these enlightened craftsmen refused to bear arms or build fortresses and prisons. Apprentices learned their trade moving from yard to yard in the course of a ‘tour de France’, receiving instruction from ‘compagnons’. They later underwent initiation by their masters in secret enclaves called ‘cayennes’.
The three fraternities, which later emerged into one single association, had, at first, different duties and they utilised different techniques. The Children of Father Soubise were to be found at the heart of the Benedictine monastic system and mainly built in the Romanesque style. Their signatures or masonic marks differed widely from those of the builders of Gothic, even when their work was contemporary.
The Children of Master Jacques, known also as the ‘Compagnons Passant du Devoir’, were supposedly founded by Master Jacques, the son of Jacquin (Joachim), a master craftsman who, as legend relates, was created master after journeys in Greece, Egypt and Jerusalem (MJF: shades of the journeys of Christian Rosenkreutz here!). The same legends explain that it was he who made the two pillars of the Temple of Solomon that stood guarding the porch of the Temple: Boaz and the one that is actually called Joachim. It is worth pointing out here that these twin pillars are amongst the most prolific symbols and allegorical key figures of modern Freemasonry. Hence, we may be seeing a connection here between this medieval French craft guild and modern Masonic teachings. Wallace-Murphy and Hopkins add that the medieval Children of Master Jacques were the successors to the ancient Celtic (Druid) builders who signed their work with an oakleaf.
The Children of Solomon
From our perspective though, it is the third brotherhood, the Children of Solomon, that is the most important group to focus on. This fraternity are credited with building Chartres Cathedral (an awe-inspiring cathedral I have visited on a number of occasions) and most of the other ‘Notre Dame’ cathedrals such as Rheims and Amiens. Wallace-Murphy and Hopkins point out that many of the churches and cathedrals they constructed bear their signature of the ‘chrisme à l’epée – a Celtic cross enclosed within a circle (MJF: there are those who claim that the Celtic cross is a symbol inherited from Atlantis). Apart from sharing with the Fraternity of the Dionysian Artificers the connection to Solomon in their name, as Many P Hall states that the former were also called the ‘Sons of Solomon’, what else may these two groups of builders have had in common? Could they have shared access to the same esoteric knowledge perhaps?
In this last regard, we should note that the Children of Solomon were instructed in sacred geometry by Cistercian monks, the order of St Bernard of Clairvaux who had helped to establish the Knights Templar. The Fraternity was named after King Solomon who, according to the Old Testament, commissioned the Temple of Jerusalem and deposited the Ark of the Covenant within it. It should also be noted that another branch of the Compagnonnage operated in Provence and built many of the Templar churches in the South of France. They were known as the ‘Compagnonnage Tuscana’ (suggesting a link with Tuscany in Italy) who traced their mysteries back to Egypt and Biblical Israel (as do the Freemasons and Rosicrucians) via their Roman and Greek roots. According to Wallace-Murphy and Hopkins, they were part of a collegia of constructors known as ‘Les Tignarii’, supposedly founded by Numa Pompilius
Wallace-Murphy and Hopkins admit that the exact relationship between the Children of Solomon and the Knights Templar is not clear. They query whether the craftsmen were an integral part of the Templar Order, affiliated to it, or just associated with it by usage. The Templars certainly gave a rule to this branch of the Compagnonnage with the agreement of St. Bernard of Clairvaux in March 1145, which laid down rules for living, working and honourable conduct for all the craft initiates involved in the construction of churches (MJF: You may recall that it was St Bernard of Clairvaux who had written the Templars’ rule or constitution). The rule was prefaced as follows:
“We the Knights of Christ and of the Temple follow the destiny that prepares us to die for Christ. We have the wish to give this rule of living, of work and of honour to the constructors of churches so that Christianity can spread through the earth not so that our name should be remembered. Oh Lord, but that Your Name should live.”*
*From La règle de St Devoir de Dieu et de la Croissade
Form this it would seem highly probable that this Order or Fraternity of Craftmasons was affiliated in some way to the Templars. The Children of Solomon were certainly under the protection of the Templars. They were granted great privileges, including freedom from all taxes and protection against legal action by the constructors of other buildings. It may be indicative of the Children of Solomon’s status as regards the Knight Templars’ patronage of their Order that when the Templars were suppressed, the Children of Solomon lost the privileges and immunities granted to Masons. One possible explanation for this loss of privileges may be that proffered by the author John Robinson who in his book Born in Blood described how the fleeing Knights Templar were assisted to safe havens by the lodges of the Craftmasons. The Children of Solomon’s loss of privileges may therefore be seen as retribution for the assistance they gave to the Templars in their time of need.
Whatever the case may be, there can be no doubt about the involvement of both the Knights Templar and the Children of Solomon in the great era of cathedral building today called the ‘Rise of the Gothic’. It may also explain why the Norman King Henry II of England (who spent much of his time in Normandy) chose to appoint Andrȇ de Montbard, the Grand Master of the Knights Templar, to act as Superintendent of the English Masons. How directly involved with this monumental cathedral building program the Templars were is a subject of much debate but as the architectural historian Fred Gettings said of the Templars in his book The Secret Zodiac: “The Knights Templar … were almost openly involved in financing and lending moral support to the building of cathedrals throughout Europe.”
Well, this is related to that moment in time where feminism was doing away with all things male, leaving a big bottleneck in the Y chromosome.
June 28th, 2025
Actually, we could ask to clarify the Cs cosmology in this regard. Bookmarked.
Also, Caesar's journey to Andalucia. He would have passed through the Pyrenees. I saw a church from Roman times dedicated to Julius Caesar in the Occitan/Catalonian side of the Pyrenees.
And if Paul is really buried in Santiago de Compostela, he and his followers would have also made a pass through the Pyrenees when going from Rome to Spain. The entire region is fascinating, it's a shame it is overpowered by psychopaths in power. But as the Cs once said, "you be the good guys".
panoptix
Jedi
According to letters recovered, Canseliet flew to Spain in 1952 or 1953. This is a facsimile of a letter addressed to his friend Philèas Lebesgue where it can be read painstalkingly 16 Mai 1953:Have you read Secret History of the World by Laura?
The text translated says: “Madrid, this Thursday. My dearest friend: The opportunity arose, and I seized it immediately. I have been in Spain for ten days now. I arrived in Madrid this morning from Salamanca, in the midst of the San Icidro [sic] festival, it seems. President Salazar is being received there tomorrow. As for me, a poor philosopher quite out of place in this century, I will be “embarking” on Saturday, with much less fanfare, for Córdoba and Seville. I didn't want you to remain without news any longer. My first visit will be to see you, upon my return at the end of this month. My warmest regards to you all, and my most affectionate thoughts. E. Canseliet.” And the original in French reads:
Walter Grosse asserts in Fulcanelli: Lez zones d'ombre enfin éclaircies (2020), that Canseliet “according to this postcard, took a plane to Salamanca on Tuesday, May 6, 1952. Ten days later, on Thursday, May 15, precisely the day of the feast of San Isidro, he would have arrived in Madrid.”
Jean Laplace, to whom Canseliet's daughter, Isabelle, showed the passport with the entry stamp in 1952 to Spain, during her father's funeral and which was witnessed by Gerard Heym but, in his opinion, the trip would have been made in the year 1954. That said, according to the Spanish alchemist and writer Luis Miguel Martínez Otero in Fulcanelli: Una biografía imposible, the matter is easily settled if we take the text of the letter to his friend Lebesque at face value, since Salazar visited Spain only twice: in 1952 and 1960.
BTW, in 1952 the Société de Gens de Lettres de France (SGDLF), in its file No. 9298/46: “Eugene Canseliet, dit Fulcanelli,” officially recognizes him as the author and sole beneficiary of the rights to both works. With this fact in mind, the answer he gives to Pradel takes on a different meaning:
Entretien avec Eugene Canseliet - Revue Question De. No 51. Janvier-Février-Mars - 1983 said:
This is quite incredible if true and I have little reason to doubt it since Fulcanelli would not have been the only member of the Enclave of Alchemists to defy age in this manner. Indeed, the C's confirmed that the famous French medieval alchemist Nicolas Flamel was a member of the Enclave and had also achieved great longevity, a man who is believed to have created and discovered the philosopher’s stone and to have thereby achieved immortality:
Session 16 September 1995:
So, we learn that the alchemists in this enclave are part of the mysterious Quorum, a subject already discussed in earlier posts on this thread, which makes them yet another player in the STS mix. However, it would seem that these alchemists have not only attained longevity of life but have also achieved 4th density status since Canseliet's reference to Fulcanelli being androgenous and at one stage appearing completely female fits well with what the C's have said about experiencing variable physicality at 4th density:
For those not familiar with Nicolas Flamel, here is a brief synopsis of him:
Nicolas Flamel lived between 1330 – 1418 A.D., which means he was born not long after the demise of the Knights Templar, a group that is known to have practised alchemy. According to texts ascribed to Flamel almost 200 years after his death, he had learned the alchemical secrets from a Jewish converso (i.e., a Jewish convert to Catholicism) sage on the road to Santiago de Compostela (St. James of Compostela), which is situated in the extreme north-west of Spain. The sage helped him to understand the text of a mysterious 21-page book he had purchased in 1357, which the sage identified as a copy of the original Book of Abramelin the Mage. The Book of Abramelin tells the story of an Egyptian mage named Abraham, or Abra-Melin, who taught a system of magic to Abraham of Worms in Germany. The book is framed as a sort of epistolary novel (i.e., an exchange of letters) or autobiography in which Abraham of Worms describes his journey from Germany to Egypt and reveals Abramelin’s magical and Kabbalistic secrets to his son Lamech. For me it is curious that this narrative to some extent reflects the story told in the first Rosicrucian Manifesto, the Fama Fraternitatis Rosae Crucis, of "Father C.R." and his pilgrimage to Jerusalem and his subsequent tutelage by the secret sages of the East from whom he learned the ancient esoteric knowledge, which included the study of magic and the Kabbalah. Perhaps this is no coincidence.
Historians believe that Flamel’s reputation as an author, alchemist and immortal adept was mainly an invention of the 17th century, which happens to be the same century as the Rosicrucians first appeared in the public domain through the publication of their Manifestos. According to legend, Flamel succeeded at the two goals of alchemy: that is, he made the Philosopher’s Stone which transforms base metals into golds and he and his wife, Perenelle, achieved immortality through the "Elixir of Life" (David Hudson’s monoatomic gold). Although Flamel is meant to have died in 1418, according to the C’s he was still alive in the 16th century since he seems to have been involved in the burial of the treasure (the trans-dimensional atomic re-molecularisation machine or TDARM) on Oak Island in Nova Scotia, which the C’s said took place in the 1500’s:
panoptix
Jedi
It may depend on your way of thinking; I'd suggest to follow the C's advice in Session 4 November 1995: “Assume, and you make an ass out of u and me!” (no pun intented). Reading these books opened my eyes to a vast perspective:
- Le Rapport Fulcanelli: ou la fin d’un mythe, Anonymous (2013);
- Fulcanelli: Una biografía imposible, Luis Miguel Martínez Otero (1986): It is a brilliant work, although somewhat flawed, due to the limited amount of available documentation at the time;
- Le Maître secret de Fulcanelli, Nicodème (2011): The limited paper version contains material not included in the digital version;
- Julian Champagne, Apôtre de la Science Hermétique, Jean Artero (2014);
- The Fulcanelli phenomenon: The story of a twentieth-century alchemist in the light of new examination of the Hermetic tradition, Kenneth Rayner Johnson (1981);
- Dossiês Fulcanelli, N°1: Memórias de um passado recente, Walter Grosse (2014): From this book I take the chance to add the two photos of Joseph Paul Cyrille Decœur, the “guiding soul” and adept behind the plural name Fulcanelli;
- Fulcanelli exhumé, Filostène, Jr., alias: Philippe Buchelot (2011): The limited paper version contains material not included in the digital version;
- Fulcanelli: His True Identity Revealed, Patrick Riviere (2004);
- Il Rapporto Fulcanelli, a cura di Captain Nemo (2020): From which I extracted the delicate ilustration of Cupid in the Athanor, with the subtle Rosicrucian references to collecting Spiritus Mundi for the generation of the Parergon and the pair of lovers at the left representing the Ergon, which was discussed in this Session.
- Diversos estados tras la muerte: La última meta de Fulcanelli, Luis Miguel Martínez Otero (2008): one of the last works of the brilliant Spanish author;
- Fulcanelli: Lez zones d'ombre enfin éclaircies, Walter Grosse (2020).
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Huila
Padawan Learner
Mhmm; what must messing with DNA (through mRNA) do for ones ability to connect with the higher self.
Great line of questioning Meadow_Wind; the case of Yu MengLong had certainly impacted you alot and you had followed it up well. Good work on getting the confirmation of ritual sacrifice at play in the passing of Yu MengLong.
Niall do you recall which session it was where the hidden hand/ informal secret groups of Russia were discussed? I do recall; If correctly, it was Vyacheslav Krasheninnikov whom stated the freemasonry activity in government of Russia. But he categorised them as Satanists. If nothing is above Putin; it could be total chaos after his demise. Various factions vying for power.
Yikes.
Great Session.
There was at least another session, other than the following one. The memory was that it was not a dominant group.
July 29th, 2023
palestine
Jedi Council Member
I noticed a potential cross-reference to Stanley Kubrick (Eyes Wide Shut, Yu Menlong) and the questions about Apollo.
- Moon landing
- Fremasonry
- Stanley Kubrick
Benjamin
The Living Force
Imo, a vague one perhaps, but Kubrick was a Futurist. I just thought the "moon" connection was just a funny coincidence. Interesting.
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Kika
Jedi
Not true. Stone balls have also been found in the Balkans.
Mysterious stone balls in Bosnia and Herzegovina: The largest weighs 37 tons, they can also be found in Croatia
We also have the "Cyclopic Walls".
Giants.
And the Pyramids which they claim are older than the Egyptians.
Of course, they attribute all this to the Illyrians, for whom it is officially unknown where they came from.
Are they Gor relatives or just descendants of Atlantis?
Ian
Jedi
Stone balls are all over the world…
Thank you! I did not know also that there were some spheres in that region too, although there is some clarification here and it’s the fact that also there are rock natural formations very similar to the costa rican’s spheres.
The ones in your article doesn’t seem natural but there is an electrical phenomena that happened thousands of years ago, where huge discharges on the ground made sand or dirt to stick into spheres formation, like the spheres in Australia. Which were confused with the ones created by people.
There are those who claim that the Apollo 1 space capsule fire was a ritual sacrifice that claimed the lives of Command Pilot Gus Grissom, Senior Pilot Ed White, and Pilot Roger B. Chaffee on 27 January 1967. Interestingly, it was the three astronauts who apparently chose the name Apollo 1 for their mission, a name that was made official by NASA in their honour after the fire. The official investigation into the fire concluded that it was caused by an electrical spark in a pure oxygen environment.
Richard Hoagland and Mike Bara in their though provoking book Dark Mission: The Secret History of NASA claim that NASA's hierarchy was dominated by three distinct groups which they called the Freemasons, the Nazis and the Magicians. The authors contend that many of NASA’s most significant missions have been orchestrated with symbolic meaning, aligning with ancient rituals and astrological events. The two authors placed significant emphasis on the role of symbolism in NASA’s history. They argue that many aspects of the agency’s decisions — such as mission naming conventions, launch times, and landing sites — were influenced by Masonic traditions and Egyptian mythology. This perspective suggests that NASA is not simply a scientific organisation but one that adheres to a deeper, hidden philosophy. The authors also analysed the significance of key mission dates, suggesting that these events aligned with celestial configurations that hold special meaning for those in positions of power. The book presents numerous instances where mission details aligned with known Masonic and esoteric traditions. The authors imply that these patterns are not coincidental but rather intentional choices made by individuals who subscribe to a hidden belief system. [BTW: This book was written before Hoagland did his Darth Vader act and turned to the 'dark side'.]
Although the authors rely heavily on deduction and circumstantial evidence to press their case, the fact that the C's mention that powerful occultic groups (as depicted in the Stanley Kubrick movie Eyes Wide Shut) engage in ritual sacrifice in accordance with a sacrifice calendar suggests there may be some credence to Hoagland and Bara's allegations concerning NASA. Whether or not the Apollo 1 fire was deliberately caused so as to enact a ritual sacrifice can only be a matter of speculation unless, of course, we ask the C's.
Anomalies on the Moon
The book also made controversial claims involving alleged evidence of ancient extra-terrestrial structures on the Moon and Mars. The authors focus on NASA images that, according to them, show artificial-looking formations. They highlight locations such as Cydonia on Mars, where the well-known “Face on Mars” and other geometric formations have fuelled speculation about intelligent design.
The book also discusses lunar anomalies, pointing to images that seem to show structures resembling glass domes or towering spires [MJF: as mentioned in a previous post of mine on this thread]. The authors argue that these formations suggest the remnants of an ancient civilisation, possibly one that once inhabited the solar system.
Well according to the C's that civilisation was the Atlantean civilisation:
Richard Hoagland and Mike Bara in their though provoking book Dark Mission: The Secret History of NASA claim that NASA's hierarchy was dominated by three distinct groups which they called the Freemasons, the Nazis and the Magicians. The authors contend that many of NASA’s most significant missions have been orchestrated with symbolic meaning, aligning with ancient rituals and astrological events. The two authors placed significant emphasis on the role of symbolism in NASA’s history. They argue that many aspects of the agency’s decisions — such as mission naming conventions, launch times, and landing sites — were influenced by Masonic traditions and Egyptian mythology. This perspective suggests that NASA is not simply a scientific organisation but one that adheres to a deeper, hidden philosophy. The authors also analysed the significance of key mission dates, suggesting that these events aligned with celestial configurations that hold special meaning for those in positions of power. The book presents numerous instances where mission details aligned with known Masonic and esoteric traditions. The authors imply that these patterns are not coincidental but rather intentional choices made by individuals who subscribe to a hidden belief system. [BTW: This book was written before Hoagland did his Darth Vader act and turned to the 'dark side'.]
Although the authors rely heavily on deduction and circumstantial evidence to press their case, the fact that the C's mention that powerful occultic groups (as depicted in the Stanley Kubrick movie Eyes Wide Shut) engage in ritual sacrifice in accordance with a sacrifice calendar suggests there may be some credence to Hoagland and Bara's allegations concerning NASA. Whether or not the Apollo 1 fire was deliberately caused so as to enact a ritual sacrifice can only be a matter of speculation unless, of course, we ask the C's.
Anomalies on the Moon
The book also made controversial claims involving alleged evidence of ancient extra-terrestrial structures on the Moon and Mars. The authors focus on NASA images that, according to them, show artificial-looking formations. They highlight locations such as Cydonia on Mars, where the well-known “Face on Mars” and other geometric formations have fuelled speculation about intelligent design.
The book also discusses lunar anomalies, pointing to images that seem to show structures resembling glass domes or towering spires [MJF: as mentioned in a previous post of mine on this thread]. The authors argue that these formations suggest the remnants of an ancient civilisation, possibly one that once inhabited the solar system.
Well according to the C's that civilisation was the Atlantean civilisation:
Incidentally, the renowned remote viewer Inigo Swan also claimed to see structures (and even aliens) on the Moon during remote viewing sessions in 1975 that he conducted for an unnamed US intelligence agency (possibly the CIA) - see: True Story of a Man who Worked for the CIA: He was Tasked with Viewing Jupiter and Made Wild Claims that Later Came True
Although this is by its very nature dubious testimony, it does lend support to Richard Hoagland and Mike Bara's claims in their book and to what the C's said in the session dated 4 March 1995:
And one of the purposes they use it for seems to be mining, as Inigo Swan claimed (see above). This is borne out by what the C's said in the session dated 22 January 2000:
Now I appreciate that the subject of the Moon landings is very controversial and has caused some dispute on the Forum including this latest thread, but by an odd coincidence the latest edition of Nexus Magazine (Dec 2025/Jan 2026) has two articles on the Moon entitled In Search of Lunar Cities and Strange Times: Moon Structures respectively.
It occurs to me that if the lunar landings were faked, then there should be no sign of the lunar landers (i.e., the lander bases) and the astronauts' camps on the surface. However, the Moon has subsequently been photographed in fine detail by high resolution cameras (the type they use for satellite imaging here on Earth) carried on lunar orbiter satellites owned by various agencies other than NASA (e.g., Chinese, Indian, Japanese, Russian and European (the ESA)}. Apparently, all the landers have been identified in the places where they should be. If the landings had not taken place, then I would have thought that nations hostile to the USA such as China and Russia would have rushed to make the world aware of the lunar landings hoax by producing photographs to disprove the landings. They haven't done so.
However, there is anecdotal evidence (N.B. Richard Hoagland actually has copies made from first generation NASA transparencies) that NASA has doctored photographs taken of the Moon and on the lunar surface. I would like to quote here from the second Nexus article Strange Times: Moon Structures where former NASA civilian astronaut consultant and aerospace engineer Dr Ralph Kennedy Johnston, who worked closely with Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins as a trainer for the Apollo 11 mission, discusses photographic proof of anomalies of ancient design on the lunar surface kept secret by NASA.
Ken Johnston, as he likes to be known, came out as a NASA whistleblower some years ago but in 2017 he gave an interview to Parthavi Benu of the New India Express. Selectively quoting from what he said in that interview, when he was asked how he managed to get first hand information about extra-terrestrials, he responded:
It occurs to me that if the lunar landings were faked, then there should be no sign of the lunar landers (i.e., the lander bases) and the astronauts' camps on the surface. However, the Moon has subsequently been photographed in fine detail by high resolution cameras (the type they use for satellite imaging here on Earth) carried on lunar orbiter satellites owned by various agencies other than NASA (e.g., Chinese, Indian, Japanese, Russian and European (the ESA)}. Apparently, all the landers have been identified in the places where they should be. If the landings had not taken place, then I would have thought that nations hostile to the USA such as China and Russia would have rushed to make the world aware of the lunar landings hoax by producing photographs to disprove the landings. They haven't done so.
However, there is anecdotal evidence (N.B. Richard Hoagland actually has copies made from first generation NASA transparencies) that NASA has doctored photographs taken of the Moon and on the lunar surface. I would like to quote here from the second Nexus article Strange Times: Moon Structures where former NASA civilian astronaut consultant and aerospace engineer Dr Ralph Kennedy Johnston, who worked closely with Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins as a trainer for the Apollo 11 mission, discusses photographic proof of anomalies of ancient design on the lunar surface kept secret by NASA.
Ken Johnston, as he likes to be known, came out as a NASA whistleblower some years ago but in 2017 he gave an interview to Parthavi Benu of the New India Express. Selectively quoting from what he said in that interview, when he was asked how he managed to get first hand information about extra-terrestrials, he responded:
When asked why, he said:
In August 2005 he also gave an interview to George Noory on Coast to Coast Radio in which he said:
He was then interrupted by George Noory who asked him whether they might be anomalies of man-made vehicles and structures that might have been on the Moon from earlier Earth civilisations or were we talking about extra-terrestrial anomalies since it was unlikely that there would have been so much excitement about Moon-based anomalies that were just natural structures. Johnstone responded:
Obviously, we have to place trust in Ken Johnston as regards what he related above but then what he says only bears out what the C's have said about the Moon and we would need to ask why an accredited engineer who spent 23 years at NASA working on space programs and with the astronauts who manned those missions risk his reputation and standing by lying about what he saw and observed during his time at NASA.
