ScioAgapeOmnis said:
Well, we are experiencing 3rd density according to the C's but it's not labeled. Ask anyone on the street, they don't know they're in 3rd density! So if you were to swallow a bunch of hallucinogens and experienced a bunch of stuff, I don't understand how you could just *know* that it is 4th density. Because again, here you are now and you do not *know* that you are in 3rd, since it does not come with a giant label that says "3rd density" anywhere! I would suspect that neither would 4th or any other potential reality that might exist. What if there are realities other than 3rd and 4th, realities that might have some properties of both that have not been mentioned by the C's and left upto us to discover? All I'm saying is, are you saying that there is something about 4th density that if you are in it you just automatically KNOW that it is "4th density"? Because this something obviously does not exist in 3rd.
Or is this simply your inference/assumption because whatever you experienced seemed to match the descriptions the C's gave for 4th density? If so, one question you might ask is, can a hallucination also match those descriptions?
Am I missing something? o_O
Remember that density refers to "level of awareness". As for my experience(s), I KNOW for a fact that I was indeed at a different level of awareness - expanded. MUCH more data was perceived by my mind per "second" than every day awareness. The reality I experienced, or the experience I realitied, depending on one's viewpoint, contained a clarity of mind not had "here" - including perception of variable physicality, and telepathy...ie communication without words. Within said level of awareness, there "ought" to be infinite realities. When giving my description, it was, indeed, a subjective experience. As I said, at the time I had no exposure to the concept of densities. Also remember the question posed by dant:
"Has there been anyone in this forum, or cassiopaea site ventured into
Dulce, N.M. or the 4th density region have anything to "report" of their
experiences there?"
As I said, I did not go to dulce, but I think that I did, taste this realm of "awareness". I was merely relating my experience that I believe, based on my knowledge base at present, was a bleedthrough of 4th density awareness. Part of that perception of reality is, to quote the C's, "4th density percieves all in terms of union with all else" (or something to that effect) Ultimately, there is no way to "prove" that I experienced 4th density. One has experiences, one learns from those experiences, or one doesn't.
As to the question I might ask: "Can hallucinations also match those descriptions?" To start, I don't think there is a universal agreement/understanding on the term "hallucination". That being said, can hallucinations also match those descriptions? Yes. Could it be that Hallucinations are, in fact, 4th density perceived by a 3rd density consciousness (what is consciousness?)? I don't know, in a scientific sense. I do maintain that it is "possible" that my experience(s) were not of 4th density awareness, however brief, but I don't assign a high "probability" to that being the case. If, in the "future", something were to come to my attention that changes my "hypothesis" about my experiences, I shall post it here.
After re-reading my posts, I see the problem/misunderstanding (can it be called that?).
anart wrote: "If I could ask, I'm wondering how do you know that what you experienced was a 'bleedthrough' from 4th Density?"
To which I responded, it would seem from this one dimensional form of communication via internet BBoard, rather matter of factly. And, in some sense, that is correct. What doesn't come through, is that this matter of factlyness is a hypothesis, and I would like to clarify that. But for now, the hypothesis, until more data is acquired<sp>, seems the most likely to myself. Ultimately, one can never KNOW, until one reaches 4th density proper, provided there is such a "place".
Kris
P.S. I LOVE your avatar :)