Should Corrupt Politicians be Executed? Poll

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Article is here: http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2014/04/04/firing-squad-or-hanging-ag-candidate-wants-death-penalty-for-corrupt-lawmakers/

Poll is a little way down.

When I did it, it was at 57% in favor of executing corrupt politicians!
 
Laura said:
Article is here: http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2014/04/04/firing-squad-or-hanging-ag-candidate-wants-death-penalty-for-corrupt-lawmakers/

Poll is a little way down.

When I did it, it was at 57% in favor of executing corrupt politicians!

I voted "crazy idea", since in this day and age "corrupt politician" means whatever people want it to mean. From the article itself:
Prosecutors would not have to prove that deaths occurred, he said; an officeholder promoting the potential for violence would be enough.

If prosecutors don't have to prove anyone actually died or was harmed, the legal status of suspects under this law become "guilty until proven innocent". Could this be used against politicians opposed to vaccinations? Or public smoking bans? Doesn't take a lot of imagination to see it stretched to those degrees by health authoritarians.

“Firing squad, at least that’s a bit more macho than getting some other cocktail. Let that person choose. That person’s been at the pinnacle of power. If he wants to be executed by firing squad, let him,” he said in the interview. “I want to discourage and teach the new generation about values – that nobody is above the law.”

The most "egregious crimes" are already crimes by the man's own definition. The problem is that they are not enforced, and politicians are not held accountable to the statutes and constitutional laws that already exist. I really don't see another line in a document changing that culture of systemic corruption any time soon, but it does give another rationale for the psychopaths in power to employ brutal methods toward removing opposition.

I get the anger and frustration people have toward the mass oppression of civil liberties and upholding of social inequality, but that anger should be focused on directly changing those policies, or installing politicians who will. Retributivism as a moral imperative may be useful in some instances with personal or small group interactions, but when you scale it up to modern society, it just resembles scapegoating and socially-sanctioned pogroms and witch-hunts. Capital punishment was banned in many places in Europe after the second world war (if not sooner) because of the genocidal abuses they experienced with it, or so I've heard. :thdown:
 
whitecoast said:
I voted "crazy idea", since in this day and age "corrupt politician" means whatever people want it to mean.

I also voted "crazy idea". I think some other measures should be applied, e.g. the relevant financial penalty and/or imprisonment.

Btw, whether it's good or not, but death penalties are prohibited here in Russia since 1997.

Here is an interesting article on the subjest from Russia Today headed 'Global execution rate jumps by nearly 15% in 2013': http://rt.com/news/execution-increase-report-2013-517/.
 
Well, it's still 57,88% who vote that Yes, a strong message needs to be sent.

I find that absolutely horrible. I think that the idea of capital punishment is a psychopathic solution.

I think that it would make a lot more sense if the question simply read "Should Corrupt Politicians be Punished". To that, my answer would be a clear yes. :)
 
Thor said:
Well, it's still 57,88% who vote that Yes, a strong message needs to be sent.

I find that absolutely horrible. I think that the idea of capital punishment is a psychopathic solution.

I think that it would make a lot more sense if the question simply read "Should Corrupt Politicians be Punished". To that, my answer would be a clear yes. :)

Thing is, it reflects the growing anger of the masses of people against politicians/elites and it is a worrisome thing. The stupid idiots in charge do not realize that they are cutting their own throats - ultimately - with the policies they put in motion. They really do think that because people "take it and take it and take it" that it is an endless process and there will be no snapping. But there will be, and my guess it is not too far away. And it will take only a small spark to set off the powder keg that is the repressed anger of billions of people. Always and ever it has been that way. And they never learn.
 
Laura said:
Thing is, it reflects the growing anger of the masses of people against politicians/elites and it is a worrisome thing. The stupid idiots in charge do not realize that they are cutting their own throats - ultimately - with the policies they put in motion. They really do think that because people "take it and take it and take it" that it is an endless process and there will be no snapping. But there will be, and my guess it is not too far away. And it will take only a small spark to set off the powder keg that is the repressed anger of billions of people. Always and ever it has been that way. And they never learn.

It may also has to do with politicians/elites "reaping what they saw", as in, a high percentage of the population are authoritarian followers, and the whole "a strong message needs to be sent" shtick has been integrated into their minds for a while now.
 
I voted for execution only for the most egregious crimes.
That would be executive decisions resulting in war crimes and crimes against humanity, ie invading a sovereign state resulting in mass killings, indirect genocide via destruction of infrastructure, homes, property.
 
Redrock12 said:
I voted for execution only for the most egregious crimes.
That would be executive decisions resulting in war crimes and crimes against humanity, ie invading a sovereign state resulting in mass killings, indirect genocide via destruction of infrastructure, homes, property.
I did the same. That's already a lot of people !
 
Redrock12 said:
I voted for execution only for the most egregious crimes.
That would be executive decisions resulting in war crimes and crimes against humanity, ie invading a sovereign state resulting in mass killings, indirect genocide via destruction of infrastructure, homes, property.

I voted the same way for the same reasons.
 
I voted for life imprisonment with manual labor. Harder labor for more damage/amount committed. In a sense, my feeling is with what the C's has told us a long time ago which goes kind of / something like: "Why would anyone shoot anyone's brain?" This is strictly for the poll for Corrupt Politicians and/or Public Reps. :cool:
 
There is no question that the psychopathic elite at the top of the hierarchy need to go. And maybe an execution might be a fitting end to those that have caused the most egregious harm to others. But I guess the thing is what do we replace them with? What concept of governance do we have in mind? The way it stands from what the Cs say, 50% of the population are OPs, and psychopathy and character disorders seem to be spread along a continuum. So if an opportunity presents itself, will the same cycle just keep repeating itself? History seems to indicate so.... Greedy power-crazed elite->oppressed citizens->revolt/revolution/cataclysm -> opportunistic psychopaths take over again (under the guise of a citizen friendly regime change)....

Tomek said:
Redrock12 said:
I voted for execution only for the most egregious crimes.
That would be executive decisions resulting in war crimes and crimes against humanity, ie invading a sovereign state resulting in mass killings, indirect genocide via destruction of infrastructure, homes, property.
I did the same. That's already a lot of people !

Yup, likewise.
 
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