Show #15: No Ordinary Inside Job: The 9/11 Psy-Ops

Possibility of Being said:
Found two of those three:

_http://web.archive.org/web/20071217162409/http://www.borisvolfson.com/Maser_Method.html
you can see with the pics here:
_http://bvolfson.homestead.com/Maser_Method.html

_http://web.archive.org/web/20071217162427/http://www.borisvolfson.com/Maser_Specs.html
you can see with the pics here:
_http://bvolfson.homestead.com/Maser_Specs.html

Thank you PoB for the links. Interesting read of how his machine works. He seems to have good sense of humor too
_http://bvolfson.homestead.com/spaceship.html

On 1 November 2005, the US Patent Office has issued to my name the US patent 6,960,975 titled: "Space vehicle propelled by the pressure of inflationary vacuum state". Not to be too controversial, in the patent title I replaced "quasicrystal lattice of the vacuum's aether" with the term "Inflationary vacuum state".

It took only ten days for National Geographic News to advise their readers that my new patent “contradicts the laws of physics”.

Within the first minute-and-a-half of his 1 April 2010 interview to the National Geographic Channel, Mr. Geoffrey A. Landis of NASA has admitted that his agency pursues the propulsion theory that sounded identical to mine. Since I abandoned paying fees supporting the patent, NASA is indeed free to develop it as they wish. What surprised me was that, instead of giving the proper credit to Alcubierre and me, in his National Geographic interview, Mr. Landis described my patented propulsion method as “the technology possibly used by the "advanced aliens".

When I was a small kid, my mommy had assured me that I am not an advanced alien. Not even a primitive one! I would respectfully ask National Geographic to finally decide whether my invention“contradicts the laws of physics”, or whether my mother was wrong and I am indeed “the advanced alien" whose technology is explored by the NASA”?
:lol:
 
You're welcome. :)

I had a quick go through his 71 pp. long application for UK Phonon Maser patent, but I'm definitely not advanced in physics enough to find flaws and possible errors. Anyway and FWIW, what seemed to me while checking his references was that he took others' hypotheses (or theories, at best) as a basis for his machine for facts and proofs that his machine has a solid scientific basis and all reasons to work. Also, his claims (29!) are much broader and vaguer than I came across in other similar applications. I mean, he doesn't specify 'crystals', 'superconductors' and so on, so basically he provides a framework (whatever it is worth) and claims patent rights for anything anyone can ever actually invent as a working thing. Nothing like the very specific and actually existing first room-temperature maser constructed last year, which uses a pink crystal made of pentacene cooked with p-terphenyl.

But I may be very, very off on that.
 
I have started reading Judy Wood’s book. The book looks like it want to be a textbook – heavy, glossy pages, hard cover, - about the only thing missing is problems/exercises at the end of each chapter.

In the Foreword, Eric Larsen quotes Wood:

The main focus of my research has been in the area of experimental mechanics and optical interferometry, which is referred to as photomechanics. … Photomechanics … is the use of optical images and optical interferometry to determine material characteristics. So it is second nature for me to see anomalies in material behavior when looking at photographic images.


She is implying that she is better qualified than most to interpret the 9/11 photos for what happened to the buildings based on experience with image-based lab interferometry measurements. I think this borders on the absurd.

That is like me saying that my deep involvement with antenna array interferometry based on study of antenna pattern imagery, uniquely qualifies me for study of the 9/11 WTC photos.

Towards the end of the Foreword Larsen says:

… laid out for us by Dr Wood’s magisterial, humane, paradigm-changing work.

Looks like some pretty major image-building going on here.

On page 7 she says

To put it succinctly something must destroy the building, somehow, ahead of the “collapse wave”.

I think most would agree with this.

On the jumpers, I think many were probably pushed out by others behind them trying to get to fresh air. Some may have had to take a running leap to avoid fire. I don’t think some “mystery force” needs to be invoked.

Part 2 of the Jenkins paper (quoted/linked above) looks to me like a “hit” piece – an authoritarian stance consisting of “breaking the laws of physics”, “can’t do”, and “we all know that …”

That’s as far as I’ve got so far – fwiw. I’ll add more as I get through Wood’s book.
 
That’s as far as I’ve got so far – fwiw. I’ll add more as I get through Wood’s book.

Hi LQB,

While you're at it, could you please also have an eye on the Hutchison influence on Judy Wood?

I've found a quote from Ark about Hutchison in this topic: Cold-fusion demonstration a "success", over here: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,9155.0.html

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic said:
I have just watched "The Hutchison demonstrates Zero Point Energy" on Youtube. All of the "levitating" were shown in such a way that they could have been falling bodies and reversed. The floating big ball was shown in such a way that you would never see what is between the ball and the wall. The terms used by the hero were scientifically suspicious - even for an open-minded scientist that is wishing well the inventors.

So, sorry, but no cigar this time.

Much obliged. :)

EDIT: spelling.
 
Palinurus said:
That’s as far as I’ve got so far – fwiw. I’ll add more as I get through Wood’s book.

Hi LQB,

While you're at it, could you please also have an eye on the Hutchison influence on Judy Wood?

Sure

I've seen some of Hutchison's videos - very hocus pocus and nothing substantial like Ark said. Last I saw, he was down on the Gulf coast running his electronics to help clean up the GoM - must be some all-purpose stuff! ;)
 
Last I saw, he was down on the Gulf coast running his electronics to help clean up the GoM - must be some all-purpose stuff! ;)

Yes, I remember that one too.

This is the link to it: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,17588.msg204590.html#msg204590 for others to peruse ;D
 
Thanks seek10 for bringing these Cs excerpts on 9/11 together. The very first one in 2001 pretty much sketches it all out:

2001 10 13

(L) Were the WTC buildings collapsed by internal sabotage, or simply as a result of being hit by jets?
A: Airplanes.
Q: (L) There was no internal sabotage?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What caused the buildings to collapse?
A: Structural weaknesses.
Q: (L) We watched one film that showed a strange, dark object, shooting down towards the ground. What was that?
A: 4th Density energy surge.

There are other versions out there but I think this is the film being referred to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqZThMtAcVY

2001 10 13

Q: (L) Where was it surging from and to?
A: Dome of destruction energy time lock to ground.
Q: (L) Are you saying that there was a dome of a time lock over this area? Do you mean that they put a "time lock" over this area so that they could
"harvest" bodies or energy?
A: Close.
Q: (BT) Was there any other purpose besides harvest?
A: Gathering records, gold, soul extraction, he said.
Q: (L) What does "he said" mean?
A: Journeyman.
Q: (L) Who or what is a "journeyman?"
A: Informant.
Q: (L) So there is a "journeyman" who is the informant from whom you obtained the information regarding the question?
A: 4th Density STO observer.
Q: (L) What did they want the gold for?
A: 4th density uses gold for technology.
Q: (BT) Well, that is in many myths about the "gods" mining gold in antiquity. (L) Were they gathering records in the sense of material objects?
A: Partly.
Q: (L) Might these records also have been an extraction of "records" from people as they were dying?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) For what purpose did they intend to use the souls that were extracted?
A: Remolecularization.
Q: What will they used these remolecularized beings for?
A: Insert them back into building to escape and be rescued.
Q: (L) Are you saying that this was an opportunity used as a very traumatic screen event of a mass abduction, so to say?!
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What was done to these people who were abducted? Was there a specific reason for a mass abduction?
A: Turn on the programs.
Q: (TB) So, those who "escaped" are very likely programmed individuals turned loose in our society. People with programs set to make them run amok at
some point?
A: Close.

Regarding 'turning on the programs', the janitor who became a 'poster-boy' for the 9/11 Truth Movement and toured the world giving talks comes to mind.

Regarding missing gold, apparently around a billion dollars worth of gold went missing in and around 9/11:

Missing Gold - Precious Metals in WTC 4 Vault: Only a Fraction Recovered?

There appear to be no reports of precious metals discovered between November of 2001 and the completion of excavation several months later. Assuming that the above reports described the value of precious metals in the vaults before the attack, and that the $230 million mentioned by Giuliani represented the approximate value of metals recovered, it would seem that at least the better part of a billion dollars worth of precious metals went missing.

Dr. Wood includes many eyewitness testimonies describing the moment they were engulfed by the 'dust cloud', which several described as like being inside a tornado or hurricane:

Paramedic Michael Delgado

...as I ran, I got knocked down... it seemed like someone punched me in the back, like a blast it seemed. It just kind of picked me up and knocked me down... I lost all track of time...

Firefighter Dan Walker

I can remember going to jump over that guy and that was it. The wind just laid me down. I didn't get hurt. That's what struck me. It's not like I fell with a thud. Like I tripped over something. It was like the wind was blowing so hard that it just kind of picked me up and laid me down softly... I'm holding on to my helmet and I'm watching this debris fly out the this door and I mean every bit of it is going straight. It doesn't matter what it was. Rocks or dust or whatever it was. It was just going straight because of the force of the wind.

Firefighter John Moribito

The building came down. The rush of wind lifted me up off the ground, and threw me about 30 feet back into the lobby of WTC1.

Back into the lobby?!

EMT Renae O'Carroll

Ash came around another building in front of me, and it caught me in front of me and in back of me, and everything was pitch-black. Where it hit me from the front and back, it actually lifted me off the ground and threw me. It was like someone picked me up and just threw me on the ground... I looked to the left on the ground, and I saw red light... I put my hand to the left to see what the red light was, and I felt glass. What happened to me was a miracle. The glass door opened up. It was a door. It opened up, and it felt like someone put their hands under me and just pulled me, picked me up and pulled me.

Firefighter Michael Macko

I realized I couldn't get out from under the collapse. I dove under an ESU truck that was facing north on the west side of West Street. I dove under that and waited for the building to come down. When the building did come down, I actually thought I was trapped, and the truck was blown off me, pushed off me, I guess. It was not there. At that point I was just really shocked and didn't know what was going on... I sort of assessed myself and found that I didn't have any real physical damage.

Firefighter Todd Heaney

When I got to the front of the building, it tossed rigs [fire trucks/engines] down the street like it was - like they were toys. They were upside down, on fire.

Photographer David Handschuh

...as I hit the corner of Liberty Street, I was almost being picked up by a tornado... the black cloud had substance... it was like night - but it had a solid feel to it - like gravel... hot gravel and it just picked me up and tossed me about a block... one second I was running and the next I was airborne...

There are several other descriptions of being 'picked up and thrown' by the 'pyroclastic cloud'. However, as Wood explains, this fast-moving dust cloud was not pyroclastic because it was not hot like a cloud of volcanic ash, otherwise people would have been incinerated. Some actually reported it to be cooler than the ambient air temperature. These people were all either at or close to the base of the Twin Towers when they came down.

What stands out for me is that, once 'picked up' by this cloud, they were braced for impact - either with the pavement or street - but it never came.

Cs said:
Q: (L) What caused the buildings to collapse?
A: Structural weaknesses.

Wood's background in materials science and engineering, and access to on-site studies done in the aftermath of the event - particularly by the DELTA Group (Detection and Evaluation of Long-range Transport of Aerosols) at the University of California at Davis, which analysed particles of concrete, steel and glass that were barely the size of DNA (!) - lead her to conclude on p.335 that:

what we are looking at in these pictures, graphs, and analyses is evidence of the almost total pulverization, right down to 'molecular dissociation', the coming apart of molecules. This molecularly-dissociated dust has to have been the result of another mechanism of destruction than one caused by burning fuel or controlled demolition, for those mechanisms cannot bring about molecular dissociation and the almost complete 'dustification' of a building.

I agree with her up to that point. But then she mentions cold fusion and directed energy in the same breadth, moving from fact to speculation. Which is fine, as long as you acknowledge that this is what you are doing!

2003 01 18

Q: (A) I want to ask about the collapse of the World Trade Center. There is evidence of seismicity and unusual pulses that seem to have simply disintegrated matter.

A: Very good observation, but that does not mean human sabotage either. There were certainly "pulses." They were of a "natural" source that was "sculpted" or "shaped" and directed.

Q: What do you mean by a 'natural source?'

A: Energies of the planet artificially collected and disbursed. An artificial earthquake sort of.

Hurricane Erin is an astonishing 'find' by Wood (chapter 18). Here was a powerful hurricane that was making a beeline for NYC, reaching maximum power and proximity around the time the Towers come down, before abruptly reversing direction and dissipating out to sea. We all remember the clear blue sky of 9/11, but Erin actually came so close that thunder was reported at all three major NYC airports and rain at two of them (JFK and La Guardia).

And it barely received mention in the media.

Then there were the recorded fluctuations in the Earth's magnetic field, with the most pronounced change taking place when the North Tower (WTC1) crumbled. This is all detailed in Chapter 19.

Evidence of 'EMP-effects' is included in Wood's book, such as eyewitness testimony that radio communications were knocked out and multiple reports of objects (particularly vehicles) spontaneously bursting into flames far away from the site. These 'flames' did not always give off heat and may more closely approximate St. Elmo's Fire plasma effects, something Wood describes in chapters 11, 13 and 20.

Wood has done excellent work bringing together studies that would otherwise have languished unnoticed. Her own analysis based on what she knows that she knows is also invaluable.

But as a hardcore scientific materialist, Wood's work was always going to be limited by her own assumptions. Her uncompromising approach to studying the WTC event on 9/11 is hampered by the fact that the ultimate truth about 9/11 - if it were known - would clearly shake up science as it's taught today - and forevermore.

I'll close this post with a passage from Molecules of Emotion by Dr. Candace Pert, the American neuroscientist and pharmacologist who discovered the opiate receptor, the cellular binding site for endorphins in the brain.

At Bryn Mawr, my early science training had been in the classroom of a Miss Oppenheimer, a fine teacher who almost threw me out of the department because of my stubborn, albeit principled, refusal to kill a frog for dissection. There was some emotion in me that would not allow me to kill an animal. The thought of pulling apart a creature that I myself had killed, no matter how marvellous its structure or incredible its fluids, made me sick to my stomach.

"Don't be squeamish!" Miss Oppenheimer exclaimed. "How can you ever expect to study the brain if you don't get over this? You've got to put this nonsense behind you if you ever want to do great work."

Miss Oppenheimer had become my role model, my heroine, and I would have done almost anything to please her, because she had actually taken me seriously when I told her of my interest in the crossover between physiology and psychology, but this I couldn't do. Only much later, after I became sensitive to the complex sexual politics of science, did I understand her vehemence on the subject. Miss Oppenheimer had been trained in another era, when the belief that women couldn't do good science prevailed. Women who did so survived by becoming hard and cold on the surface, adopting a persona I later came to refer to as the 'science nun'. I'd seen them at meetings, these severe and often brilliant women, wearing all-black clothing, their hair pulled back and tightly knotted. They were rarely married and had no children, as if their female natures had been obliterated by the need to prove they were just as strong, just as exacting, and just as relentless as the guys.
 
Kniall said:
2003 01 18

Q: (A) I want to ask about the collapse of the World Trade Center. There is evidence of seismicity and unusual pulses that seem to have simply disintegrated matter.

A: Very good observation, but that does not mean human sabotage either. There were certainly "pulses." They were of a "natural" source that was "sculpted" or "shaped" and directed.

Q: What do you mean by a 'natural source?'

A: Energies of the planet artificially collected and disbursed. An artificial earthquake sort of.

Hurricane Erin is an astonishing 'find' by Wood (chapter 18). Here was a powerful hurricane that was making a beeline for NYC, reaching maximum power and proximity around the time the Towers come down, before abruptly reversing direction and dissipating out to sea. We all remember the clear blue sky of 9/11, but Erin actually came so close that thunder was reported at all three major NYC airports and rain at two of them (JFK and La Guardia).

And it barely received mention in the media.

Then there were the recorded fluctuations in the Earth's magnetic field, with the most pronounced change taking place when the North Tower (WTC1) crumbled. This is all detailed in Chapter 19.

Evidence of 'EMP-effects' is included in Wood's book, such as eyewitness testimony that radio communications were knocked out and multiple reports of objects (particularly vehicles) spontaneously bursting into flames far away from the site. These 'flames' did not always give off heat and may more closely approximate St. Elmo's Fire plasma effects, something Wood describes in chapters 11, 13 and 20.

And this is where the Tesla tech comes in. I have thought of Tesla as pioneering the use/collection of energy a la the electric universe variety (as opposed to the zero point "free energy"), and its wireless, lossless transmission. This might bring in the role of the hurricane as an energy sink and help explain some of the bizarre effects observed.

An engineer I used to work with has recently demonstrated in the lab, lossless EM power transmission at about 2MHz. He is using "Tesla coils".
 
Kniall said:
Thanks seek10 for bringing these Cs excerpts on 9/11 together. The very first one in 2001 pretty much sketches it all out:

2001 10 13

(L) Were the WTC buildings collapsed by internal sabotage, or simply as a result of being hit by jets?
A: Airplanes.
Q: (L) There was no internal sabotage?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What caused the buildings to collapse?
A: Structural weaknesses.
Q: (L) We watched one film that showed a strange, dark object, shooting down towards the ground. What was that?
A: 4th Density energy surge.

There are other versions out there but I think this is the film being referred to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqZThMtAcVY

2001 10 13

Q: (L) Where was it surging from and to?
A: Dome of destruction energy time lock to ground.
Q: (L) Are you saying that there was a dome of a time lock over this area? Do you mean that they put a "time lock" over this area so that they could
"harvest" bodies or energy?
A: Close.
Q: (BT) Was there any other purpose besides harvest?
A: Gathering records, gold, soul extraction, he said.
Q: (L) What does "he said" mean?
A: Journeyman.
Q: (L) Who or what is a "journeyman?"
A: Informant.
Q: (L) So there is a "journeyman" who is the informant from whom you obtained the information regarding the question?
A: 4th Density STO observer.
Q: (L) What did they want the gold for?
A: 4th density uses gold for technology.
Q: (BT) Well, that is in many myths about the "gods" mining gold in antiquity. (L) Were they gathering records in the sense of material objects?
A: Partly.
Q: (L) Might these records also have been an extraction of "records" from people as they were dying?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) For what purpose did they intend to use the souls that were extracted?
A: Remolecularization.
Q: What will they used these remolecularized beings for?
A: Insert them back into building to escape and be rescued.
Q: (L) Are you saying that this was an opportunity used as a very traumatic screen event of a mass abduction, so to say?!
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What was done to these people who were abducted? Was there a specific reason for a mass abduction?
A: Turn on the programs.
Q: (TB) So, those who "escaped" are very likely programmed individuals turned loose in our society. People with programs set to make them run amok at
some point?
A: Close.

Regarding 'turning on the programs', the janitor who became a 'poster-boy' for the 9/11 Truth Movement and toured the world giving talks comes to mind.

The above comment from Kniall re Rodriguez, and indeed the whole High Strangeness brought out in this thread, brought to mind one of the many reported instances surrounding 9-11 'hero of the hour', namely that:

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/931/331/Exclusive:_Last_Man_Out_Makes_Shocking_9_11_Disclosure.html

One particularly bizarre incident snapped into focus, one that was so frightening he recalls it made his “hair stand up.”
A few weeks prior to the attacks, he was working in a stairwell on the 34th floor, which he knew to be completely vacant. Suddenly, he heard the strangest sound—one he’d never heard inside the tower in his nearly twenty years there.

It was a powerful, ominous, “rumbling” sound of something extremely heavy being rolled about. It sounded like a “huge metal dumpster on steel wheels, containing something extremely heavy—tons—being rolled around” a floor that he knew to have been totally empty—devoid even of furniture.
Yet, Rodriguez categorically maintains there was “someone” on that floor moving some monstrous contraption about.
Oddly, he admits to having been gripped by intense fear at the time, but he was having difficulty verbalizing to me the exact nature of his apprehension. While this didn’t strike me as having been a particularly inauspicious occurrence, it was clear he had been deeply affected by it. He immediately reported the incident to the main office, but was reassured it was a vacant floor.

Rodriguez was emphatic that he felt so frightened by this incident he didn’t dare open the door to look inside because he literally feared for his life.

He intuitively sensed grave danger behind that door, and did his best to avoid the 34th floor thereafter.

[NB: It is worth considering that long-term occupancy (and thus control) of a whole floor would have granted occupants virtually unlimited and unobstructed access from all sides to the entire 47-column central core of the tower via the elevator shafts. By sequentially disabling individual elevators for ‘servicing,’ the occupants would have had clear access to the entire 1,350-ft central load-bearing core—from the topmost floor right down the 6th level basement sitting on bedrock.]

Willy does not strike me as a man who can be frightened very easily, and this one anecdote has always intrigued me. The emotions I saw in his eyes, and his body language as he was describing the event were real. I was left with no doubt that what he experienced that day was extremely frightening and deeply impressionable’.

If any of the above is true, it does hint at the possibility of something going on in the building prior to 9-11 and perhaps with some suggestion of possible 4th Density STS involvement (although reading the C’s comments above, one might interpret them as suggesting that 4th Density STS joined in during the event ‘for the ride’, even if being the unseen instigators from the get go). Ever since reading the noted article the section above has stuck in my mind as having the hint of truth about it (perhaps for being so outlandish, and hence something not worth!)
 
More on Wood's book:

Fig 41 on pg 48 shows how tension rods to bedrock were used to support the Bathtub until the subfloors were poured against the walls of the Bathtub (in some areas). Permanent support was provided by the subfloors (see Fig 43). Wood points out that these subfloors, undamaged for the most part, continued to support the Bathtub against caving in to the Hudson. Had they caved, water would have flooded the NJ tunnels and the subway tunnels (on the east side) - creating major problems.

What comes to mind is that the planners of 9/11 also planned eventual rebuilding and continued use of the site - so they would have had much interest in demolishing the WTCs in such a way that kept the Bathtub intact. It would appear that they succeeded if this was the plan. IMO, Wood goes to lengths to avoid this observation (maybe it comes later?)

On the seismology, Fig 60 on pg 67 shows the responses from the Palisades sensor for the impacts and collapses - measured data taken at 40Hz and bandpass filtered to .5-6Hz. They are referred to as "displacement amplitude spectra". I don't know if this is seismology lingo, but a time waveform is not a spectrum. The frequency spectrum is obtained by the Fourier transform of the time samples.

Wood then tries to compare one of the collapse waveforms to a comparable (M2.4) earthquake measurement from the same facility (see Fig 64(a) on pg 67). No mention is made of the relative sample rates and filtering. It looks like the filtering applied is different between these waveforms - and if it is, then the comparison is not valid. If you really wanted to compare these two seismic measurements, a good approach would be to start with the unfiltered waveforms and transform to frequency via Fourier transform. Comparing the resulting spectra might be much more revealing - apples are compared with apples.

At best, this seismology analysis is just plain shoddy, and at worst, completely wrong.
 
LQB said:
What comes to mind is that the planners of 9/11 also planned eventual rebuilding and continued use of the site - so they would have had much interest in demolishing the WTCs in such a way that kept the Bathtub intact. It would appear that they succeeded if this was the plan. IMO, Wood goes to lengths to avoid this observation (maybe it comes later?)

Maybe they didn't want Manhattan to flood because it would be harder to manage the crime scene?

I don't think Wood was trying to avoid anything here. My impression was that she made a detailed case about the intact bathtub to contrast it with the 'dustified' Towers. What I took from it was that if the Towers collapsed as we're told they did, the in-pouring Hudson River should have devastated most of Lower Manhattan.

LQB said:
On the seismology, Fig 60 on pg 67 shows the responses from the Palisades sensor for the impacts and collapses - measured data taken at 40Hz and bandpass filtered to .5-6Hz. They are referred to as "displacement amplitude spectra". I don't know if this is seismology lingo, but a time waveform is not a spectrum. The frequency spectrum is obtained by the Fourier transform of the time samples.

Wood then tries to compare one of the collapse waveforms to a comparable (M2.4) earthquake measurement from the same facility (see Fig 64(a) on pg 67). No mention is made of the relative sample rates and filtering. It looks like the filtering applied is different between these waveforms - and if it is, then the comparison is not valid. If you really wanted to compare these two seismic measurements, a good approach would be to start with the unfiltered waveforms and transform to frequency via Fourier transform. Comparing the resulting spectra might be much more revealing - apples are compared with apples.

At best, this seismology analysis is just plain shoddy, and at worst, completely wrong.

Very interesting. I wonder what, if anything, was being fudged here? Wood implies at the beginning of the book that she doesn't believe two Boeings crashed into the Towers. Perhaps the seismology data was contaminated or shoddily handled somewhere on its way to or through Wood to give fuel to the No Planes theory?
 
Kniall said:
LQB said:
What comes to mind is that the planners of 9/11 also planned eventual rebuilding and continued use of the site - so they would have had much interest in demolishing the WTCs in such a way that kept the Bathtub intact. It would appear that they succeeded if this was the plan. IMO, Wood goes to lengths to avoid this observation (maybe it comes later?)

Maybe they didn't want Manhattan to flood because it would be harder to manage the crime scene?

I don't think Wood was trying to avoid anything here. My impression was that she made a detailed case about the intact bathtub to contrast it with the 'dustified' Towers. What I took from it was that if the Towers collapsed as we're told they did, the in-pouring Hudson River should have devastated most of Lower Manhattan.

Yes, her point comes through very clear and repeated often. I just thought it strange that she did not strengthen it by noting that the controlled "whatever" left much undamaged - possibly intentionally.

Kniall said:
LQB said:
On the seismology, Fig 60 on pg 67 shows the responses from the Palisades sensor for the impacts and collapses - measured data taken at 40Hz and bandpass filtered to .5-6Hz. They are referred to as "displacement amplitude spectra". I don't know if this is seismology lingo, but a time waveform is not a spectrum. The frequency spectrum is obtained by the Fourier transform of the time samples.

Wood then tries to compare one of the collapse waveforms to a comparable (M2.4) earthquake measurement from the same facility (see Fig 64(a) on pg 67). No mention is made of the relative sample rates and filtering. It looks like the filtering applied is different between these waveforms - and if it is, then the comparison is not valid. If you really wanted to compare these two seismic measurements, a good approach would be to start with the unfiltered waveforms and transform to frequency via Fourier transform. Comparing the resulting spectra might be much more revealing - apples are compared with apples.

At best, this seismology analysis is just plain shoddy, and at worst, completely wrong.

Very interesting. I wonder what, if anything, was being fudged here? Wood implies at the beginning of the book that she doesn't believe two Boeings crashed into the Towers. Perhaps the seismology data was contaminated or shoddily handled somewhere on its way to or through Wood to give fuel to the No Planes theory?

Not sure about that because the waveform comparisons are for the collapse - but yes, games could certainly have been played with the raw data. My first impression from the comparison was that she was trying to show that a falling heavy dust cloud would result in a "softer" seismic response. But in a scientific paper or book, you simply do not present a comparison like that without stating exactly where those plots came from (like sensor, sample rates, filters, windows, filter shape, etc).
 
LQB said:
Not sure about that because the waveform comparisons are for the collapse - but yes, games could certainly have been played with the raw data. My first impression from the comparison was that she was trying to show that a falling heavy dust cloud would result in a "softer" seismic response. But in a scientific paper or book, you simply do not present a comparison like that without stating exactly where those plots came from (like sensor, sample rates, filters, windows, filter shape, etc).



Just want to let you know I'm following your review with great interest and appreciation. :)

And very curious on your take when you get to Erin. This in view of the most recent session transcript.
 
sitting said:
Just want to let you know I'm following your review with great interest and appreciation. :)

And very curious on your take when you get to Erin. This in view of the most recent session transcript.

I appreciate that sitting. I probably would not have found the time to do this unless asked.

Edit: spelling
 
LQB said:
Not sure about that because the waveform comparisons are for the collapse - but yes, games could certainly have been played with the raw data. My first impression from the comparison was that she was trying to show that a falling heavy dust cloud would result in a "softer" seismic response. But in a scientific paper or book, you simply do not present a comparison like that without stating exactly where those plots came from (like sensor, sample rates, filters, windows, filter shape, etc).

Seismic comparisons for the Jan 17 2001 earthquake and WTC 1/2 collapse are presented in Figs 65-66 for 3min and 50 sec time spans. In Fig 65, compare the quiescent levels prior to the events. This noise level prior to the earthquake is twice the level prior to the WTC events. Why is that? The same thing is evident in Fig 66.

On pg 70, Wood provides a description of the data as a cut/paste from a columbia.edu readme file. This gives the impression that she merely "ordered" the data from Columbia and re-plotted it for the book. In this cut/paste it says the data sample rate is 80 Hz. But the caption in Fig 60 states that the sample rate is 40Hz with bandpass filter applied.

If you are serious about doing this kind of analysis, you first acquire the RAW data from the sensors with no post-processing. You then proceed with your own post-processing (resampling, filtering, etc) in such a way that you can describe exactly what you did so others can reproduce your results. (I've been down this road many times with sensors of many kinds).

Wood's data may be correct in the end - it does make intuitive sense. But her description of the data inspires very little confidence that it indeed valid and correct.
 

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