Show #66 - Lessons from collapse of USSR for USA: Interview with Dmitry Orlov

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Sunday 18th May: Lessons from collapse of USSR for USA: Interview with Dmitry Orlov

This week on SOTT Talk Radio we’re speaking with Dmitry Orlov, a Russian-American engineer and a writer on the subject of societal collapse.

Born in Saint Petersburg, Orlov moved to the U.S. at the age of 12. Visiting his homeland between the late 1980s and mid-1990s, he was an eyewitness to the collapse of the U.S.S.R.

Orlov has written extensively on the stages leading up to collapse, and how different groups of people adapt to ‘the new normal’. Orlov argues that the U.S. is heading the same way, and that the U.S.S.R. had it easy compared to what’s in store for the Atlantic Empire.

Orlov is the author of two books Reinventing Collapse: The Soviet Example and American Prospects, and The Five Stages of Collapse: Survivors' Toolkit, and regularly publishes essays at his Club Orlov blog.

Join us from 2-4pm EST (11am-1pm PST, 8-10pm CET) for a discussion on surviving the end of the world (as we know it!)
 

ggen

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Sounds like it's going to be another informative and thought provoking show! Hopefully the guest/topic will provide further inspiration for do-ing the Work and creating Communities. Thank you SOTT, for these weekly opportunities. :hug2:
 

Gary

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Really looking forward to the show! :) With his background and experiences, it would be very interesting to hear his analysis of the rapidly unfolding drama in the Ukraine.


This is from the Five Stages of Collapse: Survivors' Toolkit, on amazon. It looks like a very beneficial book to read.

In the face of political impotence, looming resource depletion, and catastrophic climate change, many of us have become reconciled to an uncertain future. However, popular perception of how this future might actually unfold varies wildly from "a severe and prolonged recession," to James Howard Kunstler's "long emergency," to the complete breakdown of civilization. In The Five Stages of Collapse, Dmitry Orlov posits a taxonomy of collapse, offering a surprisingly optimistic perspective on surviving the sweeping changes of the day with health and sanity intact.

Arguing that it is during periods of disruption and extreme uncertainty that broad cultural change becomes possible, Orlov steers the reader through the challenges of financial, commercial, and political collapse. He suggests that if the first three stages are met with the appropriate responses, further breakdown may be arrested before the extremes of social and cultural collapse are reached.

Drawing on a detailed examination of post-collapse societies, including the Somali people of Africa, the Pashtuns of Afghanistan, the Roma of Central and Eastern Europe, and even the Russian mafia, The Five Stages of Collapse describes successful adaptations in areas such as finance, self-governance, and social and cultural organization. These fascinating case studies provide a unique perspective on the characteristics that determine highly resilient communities. Shot through with Orlov's trademark dark humor, this is an invaluable toolkit for creating workable post-collapse solutions.
 

Rich

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Fantastic guest! Really look forward to this one. I've read a great deal of his articles and found them a fascinating and essential primer for practical steps we can take to prepare for the uncertain future we are facing.
 

Gimpy

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My connection worked today. Great show! Hope he writes more books...picked up a Kindle edition. :flowers: :flowers: :flowers:
 

Gaby

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He had all kinds of interesting things to say. That was a great show!
 

CNS

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SOTT has really set the bar high! The class of guests here recently has been extraordinary. Whether it be parapsychology, neurosciences, or economic collapse, each of the guests have taken very scientific, object positions in their relative field of study - in other words, NO hocus pocus mumbo-jumbo!!! Keep up the great work SOTT team!! :D
 

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It seemed to me that Dimitri was in a somewhat down and out state, which is very understandable when looking at the bleak picture of what is coming, and happening right now. He seemed to perk up a bit when discussing the communities aspect of surviving a collapse, and I'm glad he's going in this direction in his research. I can only imagine how hard it must feel to bear this information and feel alone in it. I think this just underscores the importance of the psychological aspect of making real emotional bonds and connections with others to be able to get through this. Because this absence or lack of community is there, the coming crisis is in a way showing us what needs to be done by highlighting what is missing now and that there is another way to live. And that can be something to be excited about.
 

Mr. Premise

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CNS said:
SOTT has really set the bar high! The class of guests here recently has been extraordinary. Whether it be parapsychology, neurosciences, or economic collapse, each of the guests have taken very scientific, object positions in their relative field of study - in other words, NO hocus pocus mumbo-jumbo!!! Keep up the great work SOTT team!! :D
I agree, the shows have been amazing. Great job. It must be a lot of work doing this weekly. But the fact that there are so many that will be available for download in the coming times makes it a great service.
 

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Gaby said:
He had all kinds of interesting things to say. That was a great show!

Yes, I really enjoyed listening to him talk about his experiences and interpretations. :)
 

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That was a really interesting show, guys. I agree with Ren who said that Dmitry sounded a bit despondent. That's understandable as it seems that the majority of Americans are sound asleep and don't respond to alarms at all.

Here's a link to his blog: _http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2013/07/communities-that-abidepart-i.html

Apparently, Communities that Abide will be released in June.
 

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Odyssey said:
That was a really interesting show, guys. I agree with Ren who said that Dmitry sounded a bit despondent. That's understandable as it seems that the majority of Americans are sound asleep and don't respond to alarms at all.

Here's a link to his blog: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2013/07/communities-that-abidepart-i.html

Apparently, Communities that Abide will be released in June.

These articles are very insightful and useful to us at the present time. There are two more parts:

http://cluborlov.blogspot.fr/2013/07/communities-that-abidepart-ii.html

http://cluborlov.blogspot.fr/2013/07/communities-that-abidepart-iii.html
 

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Laura said:
Odyssey said:
That was a really interesting show, guys. I agree with Ren who said that Dmitry sounded a bit despondent. That's understandable as it seems that the majority of Americans are sound asleep and don't respond to alarms at all.

Here's a link to his blog: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2013/07/communities-that-abidepart-i.html

Apparently, Communities that Abide will be released in June.

These articles are very insightful and useful to us at the present time. There are two more parts:

http://cluborlov.blogspot.fr/2013/07/communities-that-abidepart-ii.html

http://cluborlov.blogspot.fr/2013/07/communities-that-abidepart-iii.html

And a few more as well:

http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2013/07/communities-that-abidepart-iv-causes-of.html

http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2013/08/communities-that-abidepart-v-example-of.html

http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-13-commandments.html
 
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