Siberian explosions
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The coal miners deny the version that there was a planned underground explosion at the Bachatskij incision.
[map] [audio commentary of the scientists and of the EMERCOM of Russia (Emergency Control Ministry of Russia). ]
The residents of Belovo and Gurievsk, in the evening on February 9th, were the first to start spreading the information about the fact that there was an earthquake in their cities at 20:25. In this way a message had appeared saying that in the third district of the city “the people ran out from their earthquake-resistant houses”.
"Yesterday I was working my night shift" Vadim, the "BelAZ" truck driver of the Mokhovsk coal incision, told 'Komsomolska Pravda' "at the time of my shift-swap my partner and I saw a blue blaze... It was like a circuit of electricity or welding, but very big! Then came the clouds (chunk) of smoke. They were very low, so apparently it was not an earthquake, but an explosion, and far away.
After that, in about an hour on the radio transmitter was a message that Polysayevo was shaking. The shift manager said that at that time there were no demolition works (‘blasting works’).
I called my wife home. And, indeed, she confirmed that it ‘really trembled a lot' ... I think that the coal miners wanted to secretly make an explosion in the dark, but still the strength of the explosion bothered me, it was just too high”.
.. 'Komsomolskaya Pravda' immediately called the MES (ministry of emergency situations).The duty watch officer of EMERCOM in the Kemerovo region reported that no earthquake in the territory of the Kuzzbass had been recorded. The trembling of the ground, he said, was caused by a planned technological explosion on the 'Bachatskij' coal incision. But ...
The comments of Victor Selezniov, director of the Geophysical Survey SB RAS:
"No. We didn't have any explosion here" - said the dispatcher of the incision factory in the first hour after the tremor. - We are confused.
What could have enstrengthen the underground tremor?"
Closer towards the night, at 20:25 they also felt an underground tremor so strong that the pots of flowers fell from the top shelves of the cabinets onto the floor and even the heavy sofa, on the third floor, sprung up off the floor along with its owner so high up and with ease that his heart missed a beat. A lot of talk began around all the central area of Kuzbass.
The tremor frightened the residents of Belovo, Gurievsk, Salair, Polysayevo, Leninsk-Kuznetsk, Krasnij Brod, and the settlements of Caracan and Bachatskij...
"The chair under me was rocking too" tells Lydia Goryunova, director of the Karakansk school. "I gasped, why haven’t the coal miners, preparing this underground explosion, reported in advance? Our school was already damaged by the same explosion on January 30. At that time the glasses fell out of the cabinets and the glaze tile in the dining room was torn out. And on January 30 an industrial explosion took place at 12:50 when all the kids had been at school. Our building is 108 years old. After the explosion, we just caught our breaths, calculated the damage, and agreed with the coal miners that from now on they would notify the school in advance ... And then last night - a new tremor. But now from which of the incisions has it come from?... There are 9 incisions around our settlement."
By the way, the old residents of the Bachatskij settlement and Leninsk and Belovoa cities said that after 40 - 50 years of living near the mines and incisions, they couldn't remember such an explosion as this one.
Therefore, the 'Komsomolskaya Pravda' asked for an explanation from the most eminent geoscientists. According to the European Mediterranean Seismological Centre (EMSC), it was a tremor with the magnitude of 4.4. The center of it was at 21 km deep and 87 km south-west of Leninsk-Kuznetsk.
The comments of Sergei Kondratenko, the head of the UDDS (unified dispatcher on duty service) of the Belovo district:
The Geophysical Survey of the SB RAS (Siberian Branch of the Russian Academy of Sciences) qualified this ES (emergency situation) not as an earthquake, but as an industrial explosion, it was given the energy class of 10.8 and a magnitude of 3.7. The coordinates of the tremor are 54.56 N.L. and 86.60 E.L.
… But, nevertheless, many of our readers admitted they could not fall asleep for half of the night, they were sitting next to their children and guarding them, they were frightened thinking the tremor could occur once again, and what if it would be even stronger and more dangerous, and that they would need to run out of the houses quickly?. ..
As was explained by the source in the administration of the MES in the Kemerovo Region, "... it was an industrial explosion that was produced in the Bachatskij coal incision. It wasn’t an earthquake. Seismic activity in the Kuzbass is not observed now. Why was it trembling as never before? It happened because of the severe frosts, which have now been observed in the region for a long time.
The soil is now frozen and the ground is firm, that’s why during the industrial explosion such resonance had taken place. It is not surprising to us, by the way. Because in winter, during the incessant 30-40-degrees cold, all tremors are always louder and spread further. Our instruments in the winter, in the cold weather, even hear the tremors occurring in Indonesia. Therefore, for the people of Kuzbass there are no reasons to panic and face insomnia. "
How 'Komsomolskaya Pravda' was looking for the coal incision where the explosion had taken place at that time of the night.
As was reported by the press service of the regional administration today in order to investigate the causes of the tremor (or explosion?) in Kuzbass, a special commission has been created, lead by the Deputy of the Governor, Mr. Valentin Mazikin.
The commission doesn’t have any conclusions yet, and the 'Komsomolskaya Pravda' again called the leaders of the Bachatskij incision. According to the message of the press service of the MES in the Kemerovo region, "... the coordinates of the epicenter coincide with the location of the open coal deposits - the Bachatskij incision"
But, as was explained by the Secretary of Nicholay Priezzhev, the general director of the Bachatskij, coal incision,"... the last planned explosion at the Bachatskij was made on February 9th, at 13:25 local time. After that there were no explosions. According to demolition works regulations, explosions in the dark are prohibited. We follow the rules and we did no such works after 5 p.m.”
… We called the other incisions (Sartakovsk, Shestakovsk, Mokhov, Karakansk) with the exception of Sartakovsk because its’ dispatcher said:"We have a broken drill. We haven’t had any explosions for a week!", We heard the same:
"It was not our explosion."
As in the song,"...it was not my bag."
And - again, back to the Bachatskij incision. As a matter of fact, according to Sergei Kondratenko, head of the unified dispatchers on duty service (Call-center) of the Belovo district, "... an industrial explosion has taken place on the Bachatskij incision, this is an operative message we have received from the regional management of the MES today at 20:37. And yesterday, when we called after the underground tremor, the dispatcher of the incision has confirmed that it was an industrial explosion. Although in the morning they had said: “No, there was no industrial explosion." The final conclusion will be made by the regional commission."
I made a map with the locations of explosions and 2 incisions.
1. Red placemark: Earthquake. Data given by the European-Mediterranean Seismological Centre
Date time: 2012-02-09 13:24:11.6 UTC
2.Green placemark: Explosion Data give by the Geophysical Survey SB RAS
Date time: 2012-02-09 13:23:58,6 UTC
3.Blue placemark: Explosion Data given by the Geophysical Survey SB RAS
Date time: 2012-02-09 13:24:04,6 UTC
4.Yellow placemark: Explosion Data given by the Geophysical Survey SB RAS
Date time: 2012-02-15 08:17:29,7 UTC
5.Red pin placemark: Bachatskij incision
6.Green pin placemark: Mokhovo incision
As Vadim, the "BelAZ" truck driver of the Mokhovo (Mokhovsk) coal incision said that he saw a blue blaze. I think that he could see the ‘explosion’ which is closer to him (It is green placemark). Because from the green placemark (GP) to the green pin placemark (GPP)(where Vadim works) is nearly 9 km, and from the GPP to blue placemark is nearly 23km, according to google map. Also near GP is Saratovo incision. But the dispatcher (operator) of Saratovo incision said that they have a broken drill and that they haven’t had any explosions for a week. The dispatcher of the Bachatskij incision said that there wasn’t any explosion, according to “Komsomolskaya Pravda”. Also there are some comments of a man who is living in the Bachatskij settlement. He said that there was no explosion on their incision. Also the coal miners deny the version that there was a planned underground explosion at the Bachatskij incision.
It looks like that they were confused what to say or want to confuse people or both. :)
Sergei Kondratenko said: “I have confirmed information, signed by Major-General Arudzhunyany,
which was directed to all heads of the cities and regions of the Kemerovo region, heads of units of the SFR (the State Fire Service); from the main control of the MES of RUSSIA in Kemerovo region”
It looks like as thou they were told to say.
I think that if they would like to make some ‘weapon testing’, they would be prepared. They would say that, for example, today in the evening we will do explosion at the Bachatskiy incision. And then make some ‘false explosion’ on the incision. Or, maybe, they don’t think that explosion would be so powerful. It is needed hundreds of thousands of the demolition explosives to make such powerful explosion. But as used to be said in films: “It is Russians”. :)
IMO, the ‘explosion’ has taken place near Saratovo incision, or somewhere near, but not at the Bachatskij incision. And I think that made explosions on 12th and 15th as a cover for the first one (on 9th).
1. Red placemark: Earthquake. Data given by the European-Mediterranean Seismological Centre
Date time: 2012-02-09 13:24:11.6 UTC
2.Green placemark: Explosion Data give by the Geophysical Survey SB RAS
Date time: 2012-02-09 13:23:58,6 UTC
3.Blue placemark: Explosion Data given by the Geophysical Survey SB RAS
Date time: 2012-02-09 13:24:04,6 UTC
4.Yellow placemark: Explosion Data given by the Geophysical Survey SB RAS
Date time: 2012-02-15 08:17:29,7 UTC
5.Red pin placemark: Bachatskij incision
6.Green pin placemark: Mokhovo incision
As Vadim, the "BelAZ" truck driver of the Mokhovo (Mokhovsk) coal incision said that he saw a blue blaze. I think that he could see the ‘explosion’ which is closer to him (It is green placemark). Because from the green placemark (GP) to the green pin placemark (GPP)(where Vadim works) is nearly 9 km, and from the GPP to blue placemark is nearly 23km, according to google map. Also near GP is Saratovo incision. But the dispatcher (operator) of Saratovo incision said that they have a broken drill and that they haven’t had any explosions for a week. The dispatcher of the Bachatskij incision said that there wasn’t any explosion, according to “Komsomolskaya Pravda”. Also there are some comments of a man who is living in the Bachatskij settlement. He said that there was no explosion on their incision. Also the coal miners deny the version that there was a planned underground explosion at the Bachatskij incision.
It looks like that they were confused what to say or want to confuse people or both. :)
Sergei Kondratenko said: “I have confirmed information, signed by Major-General Arudzhunyany,
which was directed to all heads of the cities and regions of the Kemerovo region, heads of units of the SFR (the State Fire Service); from the main control of the MES of RUSSIA in Kemerovo region”
It looks like as thou they were told to say.
I think that if they would like to make some ‘weapon testing’, they would be prepared. They would say that, for example, today in the evening we will do explosion at the Bachatskiy incision. And then make some ‘false explosion’ on the incision. Or, maybe, they don’t think that explosion would be so powerful. It is needed hundreds of thousands of the demolition explosives to make such powerful explosion. But as used to be said in films: “It is Russians”. :)
IMO, the ‘explosion’ has taken place near Saratovo incision, or somewhere near, but not at the Bachatskij incision. And I think that made explosions on 12th and 15th as a cover for the first one (on 9th).
Hi Serg,
You image link above doesn't work. Looking at the raw url, (which you've removed) states that I do not have permission to view that image. Your map on Google just brings me to a blank map of the USA. Try saving your image then post it as an attachment or you could upload the image on a public image hosting site, then link the image in your post. :)
You image link above doesn't work. Looking at the raw url, (which you've removed) states that I do not have permission to view that image. Your map on Google just brings me to a blank map of the USA. Try saving your image then post it as an attachment or you could upload the image on a public image hosting site, then link the image in your post. :)
Perhaps A New Twist ...
I won't say for certain, but it may have finally begun. As many of you know, there are no concrete observation accounts as to exactly what occurred in Tungaska in 1908.
Here are at least 5 main theories:
1) Comet Explosion
2) Meteor/Meteorite Explosion
3) UFO Crash (perhaps UFO was retrieved??? & if so, by whom???)
4) Tesla's experiments with wireless/remote electrical dispersion/transference via the Ionosphere (the Upper Tectonic Grid aka Above & Below)
5) Atomic/Nuclear Explosion (if so, by whom, how, what or where from)
Perhaps it may be a blend of some of these. Let me explain if I may. Tesla was doing research on moving electrical charges to remote locations. As you know, experiments are exactly that, testing ranges, trajectory & such. In other words, things do not always go as planned or for that manner, where or what the exact results are or will be visible.
I'm sure you are familiar with "zappers" (my term for Ionospheric Heaters) and that they work on one of our planet's protective grids that we labelled our Ionosphere. These "zappers" & their technology, as well as capabilities, and that they could be used for good & ill purposes, leaves room for a vast range of uses. However, just as with Tesla's experiments, the uses & capabilities of these "zappers" are also being experimented with. We just do not have the data or experience to know or get things accomplished without a margin of error with problems.
If you noticed, I have mentioned that this level of our atmosphere has two links. One is that it is a protective grid for our planet & incoming debris. Another, is that it somehow is linked to our tectonic grids. It has been almost 20 years, but if I recall, it has to do with frequencies or harmonics. In other words, you could very well cause an earthquake among the list of capabilities.
The Granddaddy of them all is H.A.A.R.P. which was brought out in the spotlight by Nick Begich & Jeanne Manning in the mid-90s by their expose book titled 'Angels Don't Play This H.A.A.R.P.'. It is located in Alaska. And there are rumors of two HAARPs in existence there, one public for show & light experiments, and yet one other highly classified for major experiments. If you looked at the early data of its capabilities, they do not match with the much lower ones it list nowadays. But we are not going to get into that for now. Our quest is Tungaska & recent activity on the globe that seems to be signalling our focus. There are of course other "zappers" located around the world. Their obvious possible potential was brought out a few years back when the Duma (Russian Congress) made a declaration condemning HAARP & the use of its capabilities.
Adding a new twist to all this, we'll bring in Nostradamus. You may or may not be aware, but Dolores Cannon is a specialized hypnosis regressionist who has shared information she has acquired thru her research & practice. Several of her subjects made contact with Nostradamus & she pooled the data together & edited it down to a Trilogy (3 volumes) that many refer to as the "CWN" series ('Conversations With Nostradamus'). Dolores & I have corresponded off & on since the release of Volume 1, be it typed letters or email. Volume 1 was released in 1989 (America West Publishers or AWP), Volume 2 in 1990 (AWP) & Volume 3 by her own publishing company (Ozark Mountain Publishers or OMP) in late 1992. Volumes 1 & 2 were revised & eventually an addendum was added, as she republished them again with her company (OMP). After revising, she realized it was much easier to add updated information in the rear of the book to cut down on time & yet share the latest finds, matches & such. With that, let's take a look, shall we.
Nostradamus tells us that scientists of our era will be bringing forth new technology, some used as beneficial, some as weapons, as well as both. In our future, we will use Electromagnetic fields and other types of connecting energy. Refer to VII:20 & see OMP vol.3, p.140 (mine was a personal signed copy sent from Dolores).
But one quatrain in particular tells us of an event which causes a problem afterwards. "Doctors" as he refers to them (but clarifies them in DC's data as "research scientists") researching into powers & fields of energy of our globe. Finally in their experiments they unkowingly rupture & leave a gash in the field which almost will create something akin to a tractor beam drawing in meteorites. They do not realize what they have done at first, but then secretly try to repair it. Nostradamus notes it will happen or start around the North Sea area. As to my surmisal in my early research, I figured at first it or something might signal us in the area of southern Norway by the North Sea or the region roundabout. It is possible for 2 scenarios as I see it. It might be possible for meteorites to come only thru the rip. Or it might be that the beam thru the rip attracts enough incoming to be just two much and be scattered across the globe. Refer to I:46 see vol. 1 (AWP- pp.243-244 or OMP 1989/1992/1997 Rev.w-Addendum- pp.244-246 & Addendum pp.327-339 for more info on scalar technology & HAARP).
From my view, I would have to say the gash was created by a "zapper" near the North Sea area & have stated publicly in Academy posts since early 1997, even though I realized it earlier. There is a "zapper" located in Oslo/Tromsu, Norway which is like pinning the tail on the donkey. When I first saw & heard the buzz of this, I knew exactly what had caused the commotion. Was this the experiment there that finally gashed the grid? If not, I knew that they would further experiment more & eventually would cause the rip. So I have kept an eye on meteor/meteorites reports on the increase.
A few months later, the cover illustrated pic on a magazine that came in, caught my attention, as I saw the line of an article iside. I knew what it was about. I was surprised to find an old friend, David Wilcock, presented his 12-24-09 article in that issue of "Nexus" magazine (USA edition- March/April 2010 Vol.17, No.2 on the mysterious spiral light that appeared off Norway that occurred on December 9th, 2009. It was a blue corkscrew spiral.
As to my question, of whether this particular experiment was the trigger, it may or may not be. Is there an increase to meteorites coming in? Slightly. However, due to the recent explosions (& again, no concrete proof of exactly what is causing them), I really have to wonder if it has finally occurred. It seems to me, the cause may be a mix or blend of cause & effect upon our grid & what can occur.
Lynn
H. Lynn Herrmann
Overseer of *The Academy* & *The School*
I won't say for certain, but it may have finally begun. As many of you know, there are no concrete observation accounts as to exactly what occurred in Tungaska in 1908.
Here are at least 5 main theories:
1) Comet Explosion
2) Meteor/Meteorite Explosion
3) UFO Crash (perhaps UFO was retrieved??? & if so, by whom???)
4) Tesla's experiments with wireless/remote electrical dispersion/transference via the Ionosphere (the Upper Tectonic Grid aka Above & Below)
5) Atomic/Nuclear Explosion (if so, by whom, how, what or where from)
Perhaps it may be a blend of some of these. Let me explain if I may. Tesla was doing research on moving electrical charges to remote locations. As you know, experiments are exactly that, testing ranges, trajectory & such. In other words, things do not always go as planned or for that manner, where or what the exact results are or will be visible.
I'm sure you are familiar with "zappers" (my term for Ionospheric Heaters) and that they work on one of our planet's protective grids that we labelled our Ionosphere. These "zappers" & their technology, as well as capabilities, and that they could be used for good & ill purposes, leaves room for a vast range of uses. However, just as with Tesla's experiments, the uses & capabilities of these "zappers" are also being experimented with. We just do not have the data or experience to know or get things accomplished without a margin of error with problems.
If you noticed, I have mentioned that this level of our atmosphere has two links. One is that it is a protective grid for our planet & incoming debris. Another, is that it somehow is linked to our tectonic grids. It has been almost 20 years, but if I recall, it has to do with frequencies or harmonics. In other words, you could very well cause an earthquake among the list of capabilities.
The Granddaddy of them all is H.A.A.R.P. which was brought out in the spotlight by Nick Begich & Jeanne Manning in the mid-90s by their expose book titled 'Angels Don't Play This H.A.A.R.P.'. It is located in Alaska. And there are rumors of two HAARPs in existence there, one public for show & light experiments, and yet one other highly classified for major experiments. If you looked at the early data of its capabilities, they do not match with the much lower ones it list nowadays. But we are not going to get into that for now. Our quest is Tungaska & recent activity on the globe that seems to be signalling our focus. There are of course other "zappers" located around the world. Their obvious possible potential was brought out a few years back when the Duma (Russian Congress) made a declaration condemning HAARP & the use of its capabilities.
Adding a new twist to all this, we'll bring in Nostradamus. You may or may not be aware, but Dolores Cannon is a specialized hypnosis regressionist who has shared information she has acquired thru her research & practice. Several of her subjects made contact with Nostradamus & she pooled the data together & edited it down to a Trilogy (3 volumes) that many refer to as the "CWN" series ('Conversations With Nostradamus'). Dolores & I have corresponded off & on since the release of Volume 1, be it typed letters or email. Volume 1 was released in 1989 (America West Publishers or AWP), Volume 2 in 1990 (AWP) & Volume 3 by her own publishing company (Ozark Mountain Publishers or OMP) in late 1992. Volumes 1 & 2 were revised & eventually an addendum was added, as she republished them again with her company (OMP). After revising, she realized it was much easier to add updated information in the rear of the book to cut down on time & yet share the latest finds, matches & such. With that, let's take a look, shall we.
Nostradamus tells us that scientists of our era will be bringing forth new technology, some used as beneficial, some as weapons, as well as both. In our future, we will use Electromagnetic fields and other types of connecting energy. Refer to VII:20 & see OMP vol.3, p.140 (mine was a personal signed copy sent from Dolores).
But one quatrain in particular tells us of an event which causes a problem afterwards. "Doctors" as he refers to them (but clarifies them in DC's data as "research scientists") researching into powers & fields of energy of our globe. Finally in their experiments they unkowingly rupture & leave a gash in the field which almost will create something akin to a tractor beam drawing in meteorites. They do not realize what they have done at first, but then secretly try to repair it. Nostradamus notes it will happen or start around the North Sea area. As to my surmisal in my early research, I figured at first it or something might signal us in the area of southern Norway by the North Sea or the region roundabout. It is possible for 2 scenarios as I see it. It might be possible for meteorites to come only thru the rip. Or it might be that the beam thru the rip attracts enough incoming to be just two much and be scattered across the globe. Refer to I:46 see vol. 1 (AWP- pp.243-244 or OMP 1989/1992/1997 Rev.w-Addendum- pp.244-246 & Addendum pp.327-339 for more info on scalar technology & HAARP).
From my view, I would have to say the gash was created by a "zapper" near the North Sea area & have stated publicly in Academy posts since early 1997, even though I realized it earlier. There is a "zapper" located in Oslo/Tromsu, Norway which is like pinning the tail on the donkey. When I first saw & heard the buzz of this, I knew exactly what had caused the commotion. Was this the experiment there that finally gashed the grid? If not, I knew that they would further experiment more & eventually would cause the rip. So I have kept an eye on meteor/meteorites reports on the increase.
A few months later, the cover illustrated pic on a magazine that came in, caught my attention, as I saw the line of an article iside. I knew what it was about. I was surprised to find an old friend, David Wilcock, presented his 12-24-09 article in that issue of "Nexus" magazine (USA edition- March/April 2010 Vol.17, No.2 on the mysterious spiral light that appeared off Norway that occurred on December 9th, 2009. It was a blue corkscrew spiral.
As to my question, of whether this particular experiment was the trigger, it may or may not be. Is there an increase to meteorites coming in? Slightly. However, due to the recent explosions (& again, no concrete proof of exactly what is causing them), I really have to wonder if it has finally occurred. It seems to me, the cause may be a mix or blend of cause & effect upon our grid & what can occur.
Lynn
H. Lynn Herrmann
Overseer of *The Academy* & *The School*
shijing
The Living Force
Hi Lynn,
Welcome to our forum. I see that you're posting on related topics in close succession, so before you go further, why don't you post an introduction in the Newbies section, telling us about yourself (including what "The School" and "The Academy" are).
As for the above post, I would suggest doing searches on HAARP, Dolores Cannon, and David Wilcock -- they may not be exactly what you think they are :)
Welcome to our forum. I see that you're posting on related topics in close succession, so before you go further, why don't you post an introduction in the Newbies section, telling us about yourself (including what "The School" and "The Academy" are).
As for the above post, I would suggest doing searches on HAARP, Dolores Cannon, and David Wilcock -- they may not be exactly what you think they are :)
HiThere
The Living Force
But there is no way of knowing if this channel is truthful or misleading. In my view this is important to bear in mind when dealing with the myriads of channeled truths.Lynn said:
Again, how do we know where these statements come from? There are many discussions around this theme if you use the search button on this forum, like this one:
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,14234.0.html
It is an excellent overview of some of the purported truth messengers over the years.
The distance between Oslo and Tromsø is roughly 2 500 kilometres, so this speaks against this being a localized phenomenon.
I think that there is a growing body of evidence towards the increasing appearence of meteors/comets. I have seen 3 this last year and none the preceding years. The news site Sign of the Times (SOTT) that is run by the instigators of this forum has publicized scores of reports of lights, bangs, strange sounds etc. the recent years.
Shijing noted:
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As for the above post, I would suggest doing searches on HAARP, Dolores Cannon, and David Wilcock -- they may not be exactly what you think they are
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As to your suggestion, I am very well aware of HAARP & the other "zappers" & their capabilities, as I have been compiling data on them since the mid 1990s.
As to Dolores Cannon, I have followed much of her research & information since her first in the Trilogy on Nostradamus came out in 1989. So I am well informed concerning her & her information & have the deepest regards for both her & to what she has found.
Now as to David Wilcock, I was one of the ones David shared with in the late 1990s, as to the Cayce connection. Of course, he's young & made a big splash. Sometimes a person does good by doing that & sometimes they jump in over their head. Anyway, I have not had time to keep up on all of his doings since the late 90s. But the article he did on the "zapper" in "Nexus" was well done & he did his homework fairly well. As to my early involvement, I think somewhere I am mentioned ... let me look back ... I am mentioned here twice & "The Academy" once- <http://www.greatdreams.com/david3.htm>. Now whether that is a good thing, who can truly say.
I'll even interject this one ahead. I am very well versed in, or have researched, L/L Research's "Ra Material" & 'The Law of ONE' books 1-4, as well as acquainted with Carla. In fact, she has something quoted from me in her book- 'The Wanderer's Handbook', as I recall.
At one time, *The Academy* had up to 3 websites (two being back-up mirror sites) and over 250 members located all around the world. Currently we have none. We made the mistake of piggybacking on other people's websites. When they moved or such, it affected us. *The School* was an offshoot from *The Academy*. Its primary purpose is to teach "The NAME" in the days ahead, as well as other items or branches of philosophy/practices.
I will try to find the time to list a little bit on me, & my two groups mentioned in the Newbie section in a few days.
Blessings!
Lynn H.
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As for the above post, I would suggest doing searches on HAARP, Dolores Cannon, and David Wilcock -- they may not be exactly what you think they are
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As to your suggestion, I am very well aware of HAARP & the other "zappers" & their capabilities, as I have been compiling data on them since the mid 1990s.
As to Dolores Cannon, I have followed much of her research & information since her first in the Trilogy on Nostradamus came out in 1989. So I am well informed concerning her & her information & have the deepest regards for both her & to what she has found.
Now as to David Wilcock, I was one of the ones David shared with in the late 1990s, as to the Cayce connection. Of course, he's young & made a big splash. Sometimes a person does good by doing that & sometimes they jump in over their head. Anyway, I have not had time to keep up on all of his doings since the late 90s. But the article he did on the "zapper" in "Nexus" was well done & he did his homework fairly well. As to my early involvement, I think somewhere I am mentioned ... let me look back ... I am mentioned here twice & "The Academy" once- <http://www.greatdreams.com/david3.htm>. Now whether that is a good thing, who can truly say.
I'll even interject this one ahead. I am very well versed in, or have researched, L/L Research's "Ra Material" & 'The Law of ONE' books 1-4, as well as acquainted with Carla. In fact, she has something quoted from me in her book- 'The Wanderer's Handbook', as I recall.
At one time, *The Academy* had up to 3 websites (two being back-up mirror sites) and over 250 members located all around the world. Currently we have none. We made the mistake of piggybacking on other people's websites. When they moved or such, it affected us. *The School* was an offshoot from *The Academy*. Its primary purpose is to teach "The NAME" in the days ahead, as well as other items or branches of philosophy/practices.
I will try to find the time to list a little bit on me, & my two groups mentioned in the Newbie section in a few days.
Blessings!
Lynn H.
Hithere,
I only have a few more seconds before I need to get going, but I wanted to touch real qwik on the Oslo/Tromsu, Norway item you noted.
Yes, they are some distance. The "Zapper" is in Tromsu. Why I decided to splice in Oslo, is an interesting one indeed. Sometimes I feel led to do these oddities, and they manifest later as to the reason. I feel there was some sort of connection, as the to the reason. But as to physical location of the facility, it is Tromsu.
I'll try to touch base on your other notes sometime later this weekend.
Blessings!
Lynn H.
I only have a few more seconds before I need to get going, but I wanted to touch real qwik on the Oslo/Tromsu, Norway item you noted.
Yes, they are some distance. The "Zapper" is in Tromsu. Why I decided to splice in Oslo, is an interesting one indeed. Sometimes I feel led to do these oddities, and they manifest later as to the reason. I feel there was some sort of connection, as the to the reason. But as to physical location of the facility, it is Tromsu.
I'll try to touch base on your other notes sometime later this weekend.
Blessings!
Lynn H.
HiThere
The Living Force
Lynn said:
I am reasonably familiar with the above mentioned and have formed an opinion about them that differs from yours. You seem to need to beef up your ego by keeping on referring to yourself - I fail to see how this constitutes evidence of your view.
EDIT: It seems I wrote a too harsh answer at the same time that you posted another one in reply to my post.
I misunderstood your answer to Shijing and thought your quote from Shijing was your response to both our posts. This in turn led to my too harsh answer.
I apologize to you for this and to the forum for the noise.
Lynn said:
From the research that has been done here, HAARP is NOT for causing earthquakes or weather control, and a lot of sources are disinfo. We have found this to be true of many "enlightened" people, including Wilcox.
It may be, Lynn, that you have walked into the wrong bar. Maybe another forum that accepts these ideas and people would be a better match for you?
Sorry about all the confusion "Hithere",
As to your note:
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You seem to need to beef up your ego by keeping on referring to yourself - I fail to see how this constitutes evidence of your view.
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I thought that might be misunderstood. The point I was trying to make, was that I was involved with David in the earlier portion (around 97/98). I have not kept up with him since 1998, except from a distance, so I was trying to convey that. But then, his article on the Norway spiral was done quite well, from my viewpoint, as to the reason of what caused the spiral. I also made the comment that he was pretty young, not meaning to cut him down, but implying & allowing that sometimes in our youth, we have to walk thru a lot of muck as we get tempered & finely tuned.
Sometimes there is just not enough time, or space to properly convey things, in order to keep things from being misunderstood. There is room for disagreement, as long as it is civil & with respect. That's they way things are set up in the lower realms.
As for my investigation into HAARP & "zappers", a lot of my info was compiled in the earlier years, just before it truly broke into mainstream news. From what I have gathered or heard feedback in the past few years, is the figures projected by HAARP currently as to capabilities & operations are much lower than listed back in the mid 1990s. You can call it conspiracy if you wish. Usually when certain military projects are brought out into the public array, things are whitewashed or you might say diluted or played down somewhat. That is a standard or normal procedure, in order to get somethng out of the public spotlight.
No need to apologize. I think there was some other things you noted in your first response. I'll try to touch on those Sunday when I have more time.
As for channeling, I usually stay clear away from most, unless I detect one has truly drawn the info properly, be it the vehicle or the source. That is the reason I noted L/L Research & the Law of ONE aka Ra Material. Of course, I also allow for human error which can occur, as well as on the other side of the coin.
Blessings!
Lynn H.
As to your note:
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You seem to need to beef up your ego by keeping on referring to yourself - I fail to see how this constitutes evidence of your view.
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I thought that might be misunderstood. The point I was trying to make, was that I was involved with David in the earlier portion (around 97/98). I have not kept up with him since 1998, except from a distance, so I was trying to convey that. But then, his article on the Norway spiral was done quite well, from my viewpoint, as to the reason of what caused the spiral. I also made the comment that he was pretty young, not meaning to cut him down, but implying & allowing that sometimes in our youth, we have to walk thru a lot of muck as we get tempered & finely tuned.
Sometimes there is just not enough time, or space to properly convey things, in order to keep things from being misunderstood. There is room for disagreement, as long as it is civil & with respect. That's they way things are set up in the lower realms.
As for my investigation into HAARP & "zappers", a lot of my info was compiled in the earlier years, just before it truly broke into mainstream news. From what I have gathered or heard feedback in the past few years, is the figures projected by HAARP currently as to capabilities & operations are much lower than listed back in the mid 1990s. You can call it conspiracy if you wish. Usually when certain military projects are brought out into the public array, things are whitewashed or you might say diluted or played down somewhat. That is a standard or normal procedure, in order to get somethng out of the public spotlight.
No need to apologize. I think there was some other things you noted in your first response. I'll try to touch on those Sunday when I have more time.
As for channeling, I usually stay clear away from most, unless I detect one has truly drawn the info properly, be it the vehicle or the source. That is the reason I noted L/L Research & the Law of ONE aka Ra Material. Of course, I also allow for human error which can occur, as well as on the other side of the coin.
Blessings!
Lynn H.
anart
A Disturbance in the Force
Hi Lynn,
How did you find this forum? Have you read the Wave Series by Laura Knight-Jadczyk? Are you familiar with the work of G.I. Gurdjieff? If you could take a moment to re-read the forum guidelines, it would be appreciated, so you can get a good idea of what it is we do here and whether or not it's a good fit for you.
How did you find this forum? Have you read the Wave Series by Laura Knight-Jadczyk? Are you familiar with the work of G.I. Gurdjieff? If you could take a moment to re-read the forum guidelines, it would be appreciated, so you can get a good idea of what it is we do here and whether or not it's a good fit for you.
