Special forces raid my bed

[monksgirl]

Reasons or excuses? Not quibbling about semantics. I think people's behavior is usually somewhat predictable if you know what their motivations are, and fear is a primal motivator, as is self-preservation. And you are correct that the substance and structure of power is more important and predictive than any individuals and their personal beliefs involved.
I wonder how well you know the true history of the period, and if there is someone's agenda (programming) operative in your interpretations of that history? I came to my conclusions through hundreds of hours of reading of arcane, but firsthand, history of the era. The history taught in schools bears little resemblance to the experiences and opinions of many who lived through it, and the 'accepted' history bears ample evidence of being tampered with and filtered back out with an agenda attached.

 

[EGVG]

OMG, for the love of Jesus! I hope nothing like this happens to anyone here, I have to reckon that I'd have probably bitten the special forces people in the jugular if this happended to me.

 

[go2]

the ethnic atheist Jews who were part of the planning and operations of the 'World Revolution' were not marionettes, they were perpetrators; the Jews who were not part of it became it's victims as well. Talmudic zionism is pretty much the present day incarnation (or timeless progression since wwII) of the plan. Too many similarities between that era and the present era of consolidation of NWO planning; many of the usual suspects in play as well.

I think you are a bit subjective here, like in a previous thread when it seemed like you were giving excuses for people electing Hitler, and Nazis coming to power. Some of elite are probably "Jews", and no they are not atheist(they have a good deal of inside knowledge of this world), that's only mask for public, and do you really think elite would be taking positions in politics, I know I wouldn't, you'll be in danger in that way and could get eliminated if there's a change or upheaval in society, in these way politicians are scapegoats and they continue to be hidden hand. That Jews you mentioned were only prolonged hand of them, better to say nails on the fingers that get cut when they get to long.

Talmudic Judaism is a pathology existing for thousands of years. It is a hereditary priesthood dominating normal ethnic Jews, furthering its quest for domination of all mankind. The Controversy of Zion traces the history of Talmudic Judaism from its founding mythology to the formation of the State of Israel.

You might also read Zionism in the Age of Dictators by Lenni Brenner( _http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/ ), for detail from a man whose Jewish family was murdered by the collaboration of Talmudic Zionists and German Nazi extermination policy.

Stalin's Willing Executioners-Jews As A Hostile Elite in the USSR by Kevin MacDonald(_http://www.archive.org/stream/StalinsWillingExecutioners#page/n0/mode/2up) is a review of Yuri Slezkine's The Jewish Century. Yuri Slezkine, an ethnic Jewish scholar, details the role of Russian Jews as a Bolshevik elite in The Jewish Century. Jews were a large fraction of the staff of the Soviet state bureaucracy responsible for the day to day operation of Bolshevik policy, including the murder of millions of Russians in the Gulug.

 

[monksgirl]

thanks for listing the references; I had previously read Stalin's Willing Executioners, but not the others. Will get to them.

 

[dannybananny]

Jews were a large fraction of the staff of the Soviet state bureaucracy responsible for the day to day operation of Bolshevik policy, including the murder of millions of Russians in the Gulug.

yes, I know that, but Stalin did in the end execute all his closest staff that were Jews like Beria, etc... I had some seminars about that in college. And I know about Talmudic Judaism, Zionism and what it stands for but don't think it's the hole story and no author can know exact details because they are secret.

I think people's behavior is usually somewhat predictable if you know what their motivations are, and fear is a primal motivator, as is self-preservation. And you are correct that the substance and structure of power is more important and predictive than any individuals and their personal beliefs involved.

Yes I know it's predictable but the fear wasn't the only reason I think because there was Bolshevik revolution in Munich which lasted for short time after WWI when Stalin didn't yet got to power and started with cleansing. I think it's probably has to do also with their mentality which was mostly strictly conservative because Germany was before Wiemar republic Empire. That changed with Revolution when poor naive masses saw hope in communism, and those who were against where wealthy corporate families. And there are always good to listen two sides of story, and many people will try to justify they passivity in all number of ways to not feel guilt. But like G. said men is a machine and if one thing was different all would be different, also free will involved, but their soul pays the price.

 

[monksgirl]

The elites in tsarist era Russia were of German ethnic stock, and were completely cleared away by the early communists, before Stalin was in power (remember the bloodlines of the Romanovs aligned with Germany). Stalin later cleared out anyone who was or might be disloyal or a rival, no matter their background. Previously, Lenin brought 400 Yiddish-speaking labor unionists with him from the lower east side of Manhattan who formed the core of the Cheka, who were the first wave of the slaughterers. The Jewish apparatchiks were responsible for the starving out of the peasants in Ukraine; these peasants were also of German ethnic stock, as were those in the mountainous areas of Poland that Hitler concentrated on later. In the Weimar Republic, the German people were forced into the most usurious of reparation payments for WWI, and the plans were drawn up by the aligned European banking houses at Versailles; under that regime, the Jewish employment in government ministry exploded by 1900%. It is only natural that the German masses saw that as a plot, and saw Hitler as someone who tried to save the country and 'his people' from the juggernaut that threatened to roll over them, as it had their fellows in Russia before WWII. Read up on the ethnic cleansing of the ethnic Germans in the Sudetenland after WWII. Of course, we can never forget to start the whole story with the maltreatment of the Russian Jews under the Tsar; by the prohibition from professions, from educational opportunities, from their geographic isolation in the Pale of Settlement, and the resulting destitution. The icing on the cake for me, is the fact that after both the Tsar and the Keiser had the Talmud translated into their respective indigenous languages, in an attempt to more fully integrate their Jewish populations into everyday life, that the ethnic rivalries and tensions escalated to war. As in so many complex eras of history, we must look at all claims made by both sides. This leads to a fuller understanding of the motives of both sides in play at the time. In a full and fair review of the 100 years from the writing of the Communist Manifesto to the post-war period, Jews end up not so much the victims, and the Germans not so much the evil empire, as the popular histories would have us believe.

 

[Nienna]

I think what needs to be understood as far as the Jews go is that the psychopaths decided to use the Jews and the Zionists as a tool to get control over the world, be it through governments, banks, etc. It is the psychopaths who are to blame. They are just using these groups to get their world dominance in gear.

And, remember, the psychopaths are in all national governments and banks now, not just the Jewish ones. This plan has been going on for millenia now and the Zionists have been heavily infiltrated by them. After all Judaism is a religion, not a nationality.

 

[no-mans-land]

I think what needs to be understood as far as the Jews go is that the psychopaths decided to use the Jews and the Zionists as a tool to get control over the world, be it through governments, banks, etc. It is the psychopaths who are to blame. They are just using these groups to get their world dominance in gear.

And, remember, the psychopaths are in all national governments and banks now, not just the Jewish ones. This plan has been going on for millenia now and the Zionists have been heavily infiltrated by them. After all Judaism is a religion, not a nationality.

I would like to second that. Politics, laws, wars, lies, religions, trying to find explanations for how those things fit together and what caused what, can become an endless debate if its not considered, who stands behind all of this.

 

[mkrnhr]

I think a distinction has to be made here between people and the systems that enslave them. For example, when talking about the imperialistic actions of the USA/NATO etc., many people say "the Americans". We know here that most of the US citizen are clueless about the foreign policy matters, and even the basic definitions about everyday life matters.
The same thing applies to Jews. There is this Zionist system that uses the previous psychopathic mind programming of Judaism, and there are Jews who are the victims of all those lies and act as slaves for their masters, imagining it is the right thing to do. There are also other Jews who wake up to the absurdity of the situation and start asking questions. One illustration of this is the Jewish persons who are members of this forum. There is then a distinction to be made between the psychopathic religions/philosophies/systems like Judaism, Christianisms, Islams and many others, those who use these systems to control others for their selfish aims of domination and destruction, and those finally who are the victims of these systems, reduced to physical?mental/spiritual slavery because of ignorance and strong programming.
Now it is true that some groups of people are more easily manipulated for certain tasks by the elite, but a distinction should be made between the manipulation, the manipulators, and the manipulated. OSIT.

 

[monksgirl]

I think a distinction has to be made here between people and the systems that enslave them...... There is then a distinction to be made between the psychopathic religions/philosophies/systems like Judaism, Christianisms, Islams and many others, those who use these systems to control others for their selfish aims of domination and destruction, and those finally who are the victims of these systems, reduced to physical?mental/spiritual slavery because of ignorance and strong programming.
Now it is true that some groups of people are more easily manipulated for certain tasks by the elite, but a distinction should be made between the manipulation, the manipulators, and the manipulated. OSIT.

So very well put. It would be nice to have such a statement preceed any instruction in world history; and of course, this is the main theme of LKJ's historical works. It is a wonder that anyone ever gets to the point where the veil begins to thin and finally lift. Perhaps we all owe a debt to the unseen guides to arrive at that point ourselves.

 

[obyvatel]

Perhaps we all owe a debt to the unseen guides to arrive at that point ourselves.

Which unseen guides are you referring to? It was the researchers who brought ponerology and its historical context to public awareness through their hard work and enormous sacrifices (Lobaczewski,LKJ and others). Thanks to their efforts, we are beginning to see the world as it really is.

 

[deleven]

Dear no-man's-land

I am sorry for what you had to go through. It sounds like you are processing it well. These things are very real and they happen far more often than are reported. I am saddened that melatonin cannot fathom that reality and fails to see how his outlook actually nurtures these crimes. I know of what I speak as similar encounters have happened to me as well. Best wishes to you in your healing.

David

 

[deleven]

Hey melatonin

You appear to be a talking contradition as you had earlier posted in the thread on FB nastiness:


"If you look at that thread i edited that about 10 times, due to my paranoia about privacy over the last few months, and changing my mind.
Im guessing as an admin you will be able to see that that was the case?

I rarely said anything on FB, and when i did i was always polite and respectful.
I didnt have a problem with anyone from here, if thats the insinuation. "


So it appears that your computer was hacked because of a weak password. Perhaps your replies in this thread are another example of a "weak password" as well. Why not take a challenge and become more involved in proactively supporting those that do see the very real threats looming constantly. You've made it obvious that you were "attacked" as well, only in cyberspace. So are you then going to retreat into your protected world and continue to remain "polite and respectful" or will you summon the courage to see through your own fears and act? This is the essence of The Work. Your choice, of course, but I believe that is why we are all here.

Check this out for an example on how you may support an action that does affect all of us:

_http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/10/01/about-health-liberty.aspx?e_cid=20111001_DNL_art_1

I wish for you, my brother, the courage to face these petty tyrants in support of those like no-man's-land and seekr and many others too scared to even report these atrocities. They are all too common. But perhaps you may not until you get that knock on the door.

regards

David

 

[monksgirl]

Perhaps we all owe a debt to the unseen guides to arrive at that point ourselves.

Which unseen guides are you referring to? It was the researchers who brought ponerology and its historical context to public awareness through their hard work and enormous sacrifices (Lobaczewski,LKJ and others). Thanks to their efforts, we are beginning to see the world as it really is.

What is the nature of mind and consciousness, the unseen world, and with who do we interact? How do we learn? All on our own or through the agency of other humans only? Is all Work accomplished entirely solo? Who or what are the C's? What of 'when the student is ready the teacher appears'?
I do heartily -and in complete awe- respect the work and sacrifice of others, which is daily on display here, and in the numerous works referenced on this forum.

 

[Nienna]

Perhaps we all owe a debt to the unseen guides to arrive at that point ourselves.

Which unseen guides are you referring to? It was the researchers who brought ponerology and its historical context to public awareness through their hard work and enormous sacrifices (Lobaczewski,LKJ and others). Thanks to their efforts, we are beginning to see the world as it really is.

What is the nature of mind and consciousness, the unseen world, and with who do we interact? How do we learn? All on our own or through the agency of other humans only? Is all Work accomplished entirely solo? Who or what are the C's? What of 'when the student is ready the teacher appears'?
I do heartily -and in complete awe- respect the work and sacrifice of others, which is daily on display here, and in the numerous works referenced on this forum.

We, and especially Laura and Ark, take nothing that the C's say at face value. As they say, the C's are the 10% inspiration and then research makes up the other 90%. Also, any old "guide" can say they are positive while all the while being negative and leading those who think they are positive down the path of lies.

Never questioning who these "guides" are, not researching and cross-researching what has been said is folly. And only through a network of like-minded people can this be done correctly because we can all be fooled by wishful thinking.

Have you read the Wave series? If you have read all 7 volumes, you would understand how listening to voices, or "guides", can lead one quite astray. Believing a lie is, probably, the worse thing one can do.

Just sayin'.....