Special forces raid my bed

[Al Today]

Believing a lie is, probably, the worse thing one can do.

The best lie contains some truth.

edit: Perhaps this is why so many believe lies...

 

[monksgirl]

Perhaps we all owe a debt to the unseen guides to arrive at that point ourselves.

Which unseen guides are you referring to? It was the researchers who brought ponerology and its historical context to public awareness through their hard work and enormous sacrifices (Lobaczewski,LKJ and others). Thanks to their efforts, we are beginning to see the world as it really is.

What is the nature of mind and consciousness, the unseen world, and with who do we interact? How do we learn? All on our own or through the agency of other humans only? Is all Work accomplished entirely solo? Who or what are the C's? What of 'when the student is ready the teacher appears'?
I do heartily -and in complete awe- respect the work and sacrifice of others, which is daily on display here, and in the numerous works referenced on this forum.

We, and especially Laura and Ark, take nothing that the C's say at face value. As they say, the C's are the 10% inspiration and then research makes up the other 90%. Also, any old "guide" can say they are positive while all the while being negative and leading those who think they are positive down the path of lies.

Never questioning who these "guides" are, not researching and cross-researching what has been said is folly. And only through a network of like-minded people can this be done correctly because we can all be fooled by wishful thinking.

Have you read the Wave series? If you have read all 7 volumes, you would understand how listening to voices, or "guides", can lead one quite astray. Believing a lie is, probably, the worse thing one can do.

Just sayin'.....

hmmm.....I think I have been a bit misunderstood. I do not hear voices, I do not channel, I only read voraciously and have had numerous prescient dreams, those dreams gave rise to my original interest in esoterica. I have not completed all 7 of the Wave series as yet. I go after whatever information interests me at the moment, as this is the way I learn. I like to understand and incorporate one thing at a time.
The guides I am referring to are these ideas one gets of 'where to direct now'; from where do these arise? I take nothing at face value, including discarding the ideas in the Wave series for quite a long time. Unfortunately, I have to discover things for myself, so my progress is slow; this is partially also due to crushing long-term personal responsibilities. I remain unconvinced that the lessons of others are equally applicable in our own lives, otherwise knowledge would be more easily obtained. And it is obviously of too great a cost and worth to the individual who obtains it to be anything easy. I maintain a sense of perpetual wonder at the vast differences in human learning styles, personalities, and how these interact with our searches for the truth about ourselves and the nature of the universe.

 

[bengger]

that was most likely CIA related and by the way are you missing any days in your mind or time. I wish you the best of luck but be aware of any inconsistencies in your life. If not just bad luck looking like someone and in the same place

 

[obyvatel]

hmmm.....I think I have been a bit misunderstood. I do not hear voices, I do not channel, I only read voraciously and have had numerous prescient dreams, those dreams gave rise to my original interest in esoterica. I have not completed all 7 of the Wave series as yet. I go after whatever information interests me at the moment, as this is the way I learn. I like to understand and incorporate one thing at a time.
The guides I am referring to are these ideas one gets of 'where to direct now'; from where do these arise? I take nothing at face value, including discarding the ideas in the Wave series for quite a long time. Unfortunately, I have to discover things for myself, so my progress is slow; this is partially also due to crushing long-term personal responsibilities. I remain unconvinced that the lessons of others are equally applicable in our own lives, otherwise knowledge would be more easily obtained. And it is obviously of too great a cost and worth to the individual who obtains it to be anything easy. I maintain a sense of perpetual wonder at the vast differences in human learning styles, personalities, and how these interact with our searches for the truth about ourselves and the nature of the universe.

If someone touches his hand on a hot surface and gets burned and shares that lesson with others, would you consider that to be not equally applicable in your own life, and go on to to touch the hot surface yourself to find out? Nothing fundamentally wrong with that approach and many perhaps take that path to learning. But if you are unconvinced that lessons that others have gone through and been courageous and magnanimous enough to share with others are not applicable in others' lives, what value do you put on "networking"?

 

[anart]

Unfortunately, I have to discover things for myself, so my progress is slow; this is partially also due to crushing long-term personal responsibilities. I remain unconvinced that the lessons of others are equally applicable in our own lives, otherwise knowledge would be more easily obtained.

In other words, you're stubborn. Welcome to the club.

"Anyone can learn from their own mistakes. But a genius learns from the mistakes of others." - the point being that of course lessons of others are applicable to ourselves - it could be no other way. Until a person realizes this, they wander for years in darkness ignoring the light because it 'does not apply to them'. Self-importance will getcha every time.

 

[Aiming]

That's a really terrible experience, sorry to hear about that, no-man's-land! And thanks for sharing with us.

I agree that writing an article and getting it published is a good idea. You'd be giving this incident the proper response, which is to get it out there and let others know about what's really going on, that the PTB can and do anything they like and don't care the least bit about us.

Keep up the EE and hang in there.

 

[MoskoeOne]

That sounds totally horrific!. I do not know how I would be able to deal with something like that,.... hope you rest well.. I'm really enjoying reading everyones little trademark quotes in/under their post/s box/s..

 

[melatonin]

Hey melatonin

You appear to be a talking contradition as you had earlier posted in the thread on FB nastiness:


"If you look at that thread i edited that about 10 times, due to my paranoia about privacy over the last few months, and changing my mind.
Im guessing as an admin you will be able to see that that was the case?

I rarely said anything on FB, and when i did i was always polite and respectful.
I didnt have a problem with anyone from here, if thats the insinuation. "


So it appears that your computer was hacked because of a weak password. Perhaps your replies in this thread are another example of a "weak password" as well. Why not take a challenge and become more involved in proactively supporting those that do see the very real threats looming constantly. You've made it obvious that you were "attacked" as well, only in cyberspace. So are you then going to retreat into your protected world and continue to remain "polite and respectful" or will you summon the courage to see through your own fears and act? This is the essence of The Work. Your choice, of course, but I believe that is why we are all here.

Check this out for an example on how you may support an action that does affect all of us:

_http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/10/01/about-health-liberty.aspx?e_cid=20111001_DNL_art_1

I wish for you, my brother, the courage to face these petty tyrants in support of those like no-man's-land and seekr and many others too scared to even report these atrocities. They are all too common. But perhaps you may not until you get that knock on the door.

regards

David

My pc was hacked. Check out google chrome (which i had just installed previous to getting hacked) and people having their facebook account hacked. It happened to alot of people - check google for yourself, theres threads on it.
I didnt appreciate having my photo wacked on here, and being found guilty before giving the opportunity to explain myself.
I thought this forum was above that kind of internet behaviour, but obviously not. And now im labelled.

Basically what i was saying before is that i dont feel controlled at that level (by the police) - Im not saying that wont be a card that is played in the future, of course it could be. But atm, in my life im not. Prob because i dont take an active part in protests etc.
Im brainwashed and controlled in alot of other ways, which (like all of us) im trying to work through.
I dont think theres a need for physical control, when most people are controlled (whether they like to think they arent or not) physcologically.
And i think that 'they' like us to think we have power/awareness as a way of feeding our ego and making us think we are empowered.
Anyways, im just repeating myself.

(sorry late reply, had no internet)

 

[ocean59]

My pc was hacked. Check out google chrome (which i had just installed previous to getting hacked) and people having their facebook account hacked. It happened to alot of people - check google for yourself, theres threads on it.

Do you have any more specific info on that? I've been on Chrome for years, and have never had an issue with any website anywhere. If you have some evidence showing that Chrome is a flawed browser open to attack, it would be useful, I've never seen such a thing.

I didnt appreciate having my photo wacked on here, and being found guilty before giving the opportunity to explain myself.
I thought this forum was above that kind of internet behaviour, but obviously not. And now im labelled.

What does all that mean? I've not seen any photo, nor seen anyone 'finding you guilty' here. You've had every opportunity to explain yourself, and you still do. It may helpful if you can show evidence of where this has happened here in the thread, using the Quote feature. What have you been labelled exactly and by whom?

Anyways, im just repeating myself.

Yes, what you have posted is very similar to what you have already posted. Therefore, I do not think it is true that you had no opportunity to explain yourself - once you received the opportunity, you chose to repeat what was already said, which we have all read earlier...

Just some observations and question, for what they're worth.

 

[davey72]

Hello Melatonin. I just wanted to say that you certainly are not labelled. You are just learning, as are we all. At times i have taken offense at a reply to something i have said, but then i think about it, and take it as it was meant. To give me a little nudge, or shock in the right direction. We are all in the same boat here. :)

 

[Crystla24]

Wow I must have missed this thread when it was first posted. This stuff really gets my blood boiling; I was also a victim of a police beat-down when I was 16 years old and I agree with Seekr, it is very hard to get over. This thread obviously triggered my memories to the point of pumping adreneline. I do empathize with anyone who is a victim of government action. When fight or flight is triggered in these situations, either-or will get you into much, much more trouble. Seekr is lucky he never had charges pressed, this can truly be a nightmare that ruins lives. I almost got 3-5 years for my situation! Being helpless and polite I think is the best thing one can do using their knowledge of the situation and not draw that negative attention or suspicion of any kind onto theirselves. Investigating after the fact, NML, I think was the wisest choice one could make to try to gain back some of that power they took from you, whether it lead to anything or not. At least looking into it, wasn't ultimately surrendering either. Government powers are so agrivating because they do stip you of so much of your freedom...always guilty, until proven innocent; And then you are only innocent if you play the game the way they want you to play it. At least with cell phones taking pics and videos, more and more of this kind of thing is being caught and shown/exposed in the public eye. Shining a light on these things is Something we can do about it! Hmm, FB sharing of police brutality sounds like a good outlet for this energy? lol ;D

 

[melatonin]

My pc was hacked. Check out google chrome (which i had just installed previous to getting hacked) and people having their facebook account hacked. It happened to alot of people - check google for yourself, theres threads on it.

Do you have any more specific info on that? I've been on Chrome for years, and have never had an issue with any website anywhere. If you have some evidence showing that Chrome is a flawed browser open to attack, it would be useful, I've never seen such a thing.

I didnt appreciate having my photo wacked on here, and being found guilty before giving the opportunity to explain myself.
I thought this forum was above that kind of internet behaviour, but obviously not. And now im labelled.

What does all that mean? I've not seen any photo, nor seen anyone 'finding you guilty' here. You've had every opportunity to explain yourself, and you still do. It may helpful if you can show evidence of where this has happened here in the thread, using the Quote feature. What have you been labelled exactly and by whom?

Anyways, im just repeating myself.

Yes, what you have posted is very similar to what you have already posted. Therefore, I do not think it is true that you had no opportunity to explain yourself - once you received the opportunity, you chose to repeat what was already said, which we have all read earlier...

Just some observations and question, for what they're worth.

I thought you was insinuating that my account didnt get hacked, and i just had an attitude problem or something, which is why i got defensive.
Im very happy to get feedback and look at myself, as long as it isnt based on things that didnt happen.
Yes, i do repeat myself, and my grasp of english is crap tbh, which prob causes me more problems than anything.

Like earlier in the thread, i was getting told to "wake up" basically, and there was some pretty condesending replys thats suprised me.

I personally dont think that it will ever get to the point where people will need to be physically controlled by the police etc, thats all i think.
They do a pretty good job distracting even the most astute educated person with dis-info, nevermind an average joe like me.
Thats just my opinion, if that makes me a 'sheep', then so be it.

 

[melatonin]

Hello Melatonin. I just wanted to say that you certainly are not labelled. You are just learning, as are we all. At times i have taken offense at a reply to something i have said, but then i think about it, and take it as it was meant. To give me a little nudge, or shock in the right direction. We are all in the same boat here. :)

Agreed, we are. Its certainly helps having good written english skills online, which i lack. Something im going to focus on improving. Im constantly getting mis-understood in my life, and i know i have difficulty in expressing myself.

 

[anart]

Agreed, we are. Its certainly helps having good written english skills online, which i lack. Something im going to focus on improving. Im constantly getting mis-understood in my life, and i know i have difficulty in expressing myself.

melatonin, the issue is not your english skills - it's your attitude. For instance:

Like earlier in the thread, i was getting told to "wake up" basically, and there was some pretty condesending replys thats suprised me. [...]

Thats just my opinion, if that makes me a 'sheep', then so be it.

You DO have an attitude problem. You ARE defensive and all of it is your false personality and if you are going to sincerely participate here, you need to drop the attitude. The world is not out to get you, you aren't speshul in your suffering. If you want to be open and honest and sincere here and try to learn, then you are more than welcome - but - if you're going to be grumpy, snarky, sarcastic, defensive and unpleasant, then, there is really no time for dealing with that. Your life is a reflection of who you are so if you're not happy with responses you get here, look to yourself first.

 

[melatonin]

Agreed, we are. Its certainly helps having good written english skills online, which i lack. Something im going to focus on improving. Im constantly getting mis-understood in my life, and i know i have difficulty in expressing myself.

melatonin, the issue is not your english skills - it's your attitude. For instance:

Like earlier in the thread, i was getting told to "wake up" basically, and there was some pretty condesending replys thats suprised me. [...]

Thats just my opinion, if that makes me a 'sheep', then so be it.

You DO have an attitude problem. You ARE defensive and all of it is your false personality and if you are going to sincerely participate here, you need to drop the attitude. The world is not out to get you, you aren't speshul in your suffering. If you want to be open and honest and sincere here and try to learn, then you are more than welcome - but - if you're going to be grumpy, snarky, sarcastic, defensive and unpleasant, then, there is really no time for dealing with that. Your life is a reflection of who you are so if you're not happy with responses you get here, look to yourself first.

Thanks for the feedback. Hard to hear, but obviously needed to hear it.