Speculation on Laura's new book- Horns of Moses
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Don Genaro
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Laura said:
All of the recent "bath salts" cannibals spring to mind, as well as the most recent case of the man who attacked and bit a dog
Don Genaro
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It seems quite possible. This time however, we have scientific priests explaining it away with tales of "bath salts junkies." Why bath salts? Maybe it's because they're so easy to get and the PTB are expecting many more cases?Laura said:Don Genaro said:Laura said:
All of the recent "bath salts" cannibals spring to mind, as well as the most recent case of the man who attacked and bit a dog
Exactly. Are these precursors? Is it some kind of cosmic brain infection?
theos
The Living Force
I find it interesting that some of the people just seemed to drop dead on the spot in the middle of going about their day, eating etc. It reminds me of the book Return of the Black Death where there was some mention of foul airs or mists. I wonder if maybe this was a factor in the Justinian plague but it's not mentioned in the exerpts Laura posted today. It's very curious.
The plague of 543 
A few points below brought on some thinking:
Coasts had the population densities most often as well as sea fairing access. This suggests possibly that this was not a universal diseased blanket that was laid over the lands but rather an incremental movement brought there from some or multiple epicenters, unless because of low densities of the interiors, perhaps it was just was not noticed this way?
Wow, don’t think i’ve read about this aspect before, other than diseases that afflict animals like foot and mouth disease; truly frightening. For the purposes of triggers on genetics, not sure what this suggests exactly, other than being universal to human/animal. :/
A few points below brought on some thinking:
Procopius said:
Coasts had the population densities most often as well as sea fairing access. This suggests possibly that this was not a universal diseased blanket that was laid over the lands but rather an incremental movement brought there from some or multiple epicenters, unless because of low densities of the interiors, perhaps it was just was not noticed this way?
Wow, don’t think i’ve read about this aspect before, other than diseases that afflict animals like foot and mouth disease; truly frightening. For the purposes of triggers on genetics, not sure what this suggests exactly, other than being universal to human/animal. :/
Serendipity
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It seems like babies were more resistant then others.
I wonder, could it be related to gaps in consciousness or to the fact that they didn't have damaged machines from bad diet, or maybe combination of both?
Serendipity
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Laura said:
Yes, you are right. And here is the example.
I really should read move carefully, and also struggle against this tendency to post ideas that come to mind, before making sure they are truth and of value, at least potentially.
Thanks for the response.
I did some reading on the composition of cometary dust in order to understand whether the dust itself (and not just alien viruses) may have played a part in the Black Death. I found two papers online that give a description of cometary dust composition.
From current analysis, cometary dust is mainly composed of Magnesium-rich silicates as well as iron sulfides and possibly small amounts or iron oxide. While health effects for silicates aren't particularly dangerous (though it may produce respiratory discomfort or distress if inhaled in large quantities), iron sulfides can cause severe harm to the body when inhaled:
I wonder if one of the reasons for people having a hard time breathing and going into delirium during the Black Death has anything to do with the above.
From current analysis, cometary dust is mainly composed of Magnesium-rich silicates as well as iron sulfides and possibly small amounts or iron oxide. While health effects for silicates aren't particularly dangerous (though it may produce respiratory discomfort or distress if inhaled in large quantities), iron sulfides can cause severe harm to the body when inhaled:
I wonder if one of the reasons for people having a hard time breathing and going into delirium during the Black Death has anything to do with the above.
Laura said:
Laura said:
Yes, I do remember reading it a while ago. The article is very informative as it does a good job explaining the cosmic connection of the Black Death and how cometary dust harbours bacteria and viruses. My question was rather aimed at the dust particles themselves and whether iron sulfide may have also contributed to some degree to diseases such as the respiratory ones or if the quantity in the atmosphere was negligible.
(edit: Black Death)
So True.Laura said:
Yes, this is horrifying the story, signs are all over. Hopefully knowing of this happening may be protection, only if they are not contaminated by some thing else. what ever it is not easy on.
In hindu circles, they cremate the dead people saying that infected bacteria will also die. Not sure whether it is true in this mass scale deaths, even if it is true. where do one get that much fuel to burn too.
I wondered about the corps situation while watching survivors.
I've been somewhat quiet because I am pressing hard to wrap up Volume 1 before the end of this month. But, in the meantime, I wrote a section yesterday that I want to share in advance because it relates a bit to some recent phenomena, the Zombie thing. So, here it is:
LEGENDS OF THE FALL
Our civilization has known about the flood legends of the Bible for about two thousand years; it was only in the 19th century that we became aware that this story was derived from a more ancient source, the Sumerians. It was then, in the late 19th and early 20th century, that ethnologists and other experts began to collect the flood legends of the North Eurasian peoples and to compare them with similar stories of other peoples. What they found was that the North Eurasian peoples spoke not only of a water-flood, but bombardments of fire and numerous evil suns in the sky described as burning mountains. There were also fire-breathing serpents in the sky and earthquakes that lasted for days, violent storms, torrents of water falling for days and boiling waves as “high as a tent” or mixed with stones. There were descriptions of roaring from the skies, and other horrifying noises followed by grey darkness in the day and nights as black as pitch. Snow storms that lasted for months rounded off the scenarios. Obviously, these stories did not exactly match the relatively benign – even if world covering – Flood of Noah that resulted from a rain lasting 40 days and nights and “fountains of the deep”. The appalling cosmic catastrophe had long-term consequences for all life on our planet, and was, obviously, a world-wide event in one respect or another.
WEREWOLVES, VAMPIRES AND CANNIBALS, OH MY!
A selection of the stories of the Northern Eurasians – mainly those living between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea - have been collected together, along with some of the geological and archaeological evidence – by Heinrich Koch in a book entitled THE DILUVIAN IMPACT . It is highly recommended with a small caveat: he seems to have conflated a number of events. A related book (already mentioned earlier) is a collection of the accounts from Native Americans: MAN AND IMPACT IN THE AMERICAS by E.P. Grondine. One very interesting thing about both of these volumes is that the issue of genetic mutation is described in the myths. In both the Americas and Eurasia, the stories of the impacts and floods include related legends of giants, dwarfs, and cannibals which are not the instigators of the cataclysms as one might infer regarding the Nephilim in the Bible, but rather the consequence of it.
Generally, these stories are about very aggressive, warlike, humanoid monsters. The ancient Native American myths of the Windigo can be traced back to comet catastrophes. Nowadays, of course, the Windigo is thought of as a malevolent, cannabilistic spirt that can possess the bodies of humans and cause them to transform rather like the legends of werewolves but what if it is not possession but rather mutation? They were strongly associated with cold and famine which can be the results of comet events and it is known from medical research that a ketogenic diet and cold adaptation can induce genetic upregulation or downregulation. Generally, these effects are extremely beneficial and neuroprotective, but perhaps it depends on the individual genetic make-up? They were also described as greedy and never satisfied with killing; they were always on the march looking for new victims. Koch writes:
Obviously, vegetarians will have a much harder time in a cataclysmic environment.
THE ELECTROPHONIC COSMIC LOGOS
Returning to the idea of genetic mutations accompanying cometary cataclysms, as it happens, a reader sent me an interesting paper back in 2008 discussing the possibility that the Tunguska event caused genetic changes. The abstract tells us:
The author proposes the idea that electrophonic effects produced by comets/meteors can induce genetic changes in biological organisms. What is curious is that the observed growth anomalies in the trees measured by tree ring width is not strongly correlated to the blast area itself, but rather to the land under the aerial path of the body.
The paper next mentions something that piqued my interest:
This is discussed in terms of whether the volcanically enriched soil was involved with the accelerated tree growth. That’s interesting, but I wondered if there was something about a volcano that actually could attract a body from space? Obviously, that’s a wild question, but still, one wonders! Anyway, regarding the trees:
For the old survived trees the effect of the accelerated growth is more scattered and patchy character. One can find such trees in the forest fall area, as well as outside of it. Again, the effect is more prominent in regions nearby to the TSB [Tunguska Space Body] trajectory. Besides, the contours of the areas, where the effect is observed have oval shapes stretched along the direction of the TSB trajectory (Emelyanov et al. 1979, Vasilyev 1999).
The stretched oval shapes certainly remind us of the Carolina Bays.
The paper goes on for a bit talking about trees and then mentions a possible effect on a human being:
Let’s stop here and talk about electrophonics and meteors. Reports of noisy meteors date back to at least the year 817, when a Chinese observer documented a meteor with a sound "like a flock of cranes in flight." In 1676, Italian astronomer Geminiano Montanari observed one that sounded like "the rattling of a great Cart running over Stones." Montanari’s calculations put the meteor thirty-eight miles up in the sky which was, as he well knew, too far away, for its sound to reach him instantly so he doubted that he had actually heard it though, thankfully, he recorded the data anyway. Later, in 1833, an intense Leonid meteor storm resulted in more reports of meteors that swished, whooshed, or "resembled the noise of a child's popgun." Once again, it was deemed impossible for the sound to have traveled that fast, so the reports were discounted.
These odd reports were unexplained until Colin Keay , of the University of Newcastle in Australia, in 1980, suggested that as meteors fall through Earth's magnetic field, they generate radio signals audible to the human ear.
Keay knew that, ordinarily, radio waves are electromagnetic, not acoustic and thus are not something that one ordinarily “hears”. In order for something to be heard, acoustic waves - vibrations of molecules of air – have to be present. These waves impinge on the eardrum and vibrate the inner ear which then converts the vibrations into sound. Electromagnetic waves such as radio signals and visible light, don't need a medium to propagate, don’t make waves in the air, and thus don't vibrate the human eardrum. Even radio waves of 20 Hz to 20,000 Hz - low frequencies, corresponding to the range of acoustic frequencies that humans can register as sound - are, by themselves, inaudible.
To make radio waves audible, humans invented the transducer, a device that efficiently translates electromagnetic waves into air-moving waves which can then be heard as sound. What Keay discovered was that even ordinary objects can act as such transducers. Slips of paper, aluminum foil, even eyeglasses: when Keay exposed them to rapidly shifting electromagnetic fields (that is, radio waves of very low frequency), the objects oscillated ever so slightly, creating weak--and faintly audible--acoustic waves.
Keay postulated that falling meteors generate very low-frequency radio signals that travel at the speed of light to the ground, where they cause any number of things in the environment to vibrate from your eyeglasses to your hair! That means that, at the exact time that you see the meteor, you may also hear crackling, whistling or swishing sounds; sounds like a jet airplane, or whatever. That is to say, you are not actually hearing sound from the fireball but rather hearing sound from local objects vibrating in response to the intense VLF emission of the fireball. That is also why the phenomenon may be heard by one person and not another
If you need a bit more on why and how this can happen, the idea is that the turbulent plasma trail behind the fireball interacts with the Earth's magnetic field, twisting and distorting it, and as then, as the field relaxes within milliseconds, it emits the VLF waves. Obviously, details such as entry angles and turbulence are probably involved which may be why all meteorites don't produce sounds, but many do. ELF and VLF electromagnetic fields can also be generated by comet or meteor explosions the same way an EMP can be generated by a nuclear explosion.
Getting back to our Tunguska comet/meteor: are there any accounts of anyone hearing it?
And:
Two witnesses recall that the sound was heard before the appearance of the object. One said it sounded like low thunder, another said it was “cavernous” and of a low tone. The scientist who took down these accounts, E. L. Krinov, thought that they were likely psychological in nature, that the witnesses changed the order of seeing and hearing, or thought they heard something when they didn’t. With the information about the potentials for actually hearing these things via electrophonics, let’s assume they were giving an accurate report.
What we notice is that the Tunguska sounds appear to have been very powerful. A similar terrible roar was said to have been heard by eye-witnesses to the South American event in 1935. The more recent 2002 Vitim meteorite which fell on 25 September of that year, was reported to have been accompanied by St. Elmos fire :
The settlement described above where all these electrical phenomena occurred was 30 or 40 kilometers distant from the bolide’s flight path. The Tunguska event was about 3 orders of magnitude greater than the 2002 event so one suspects that it may have caused even greater electric anomalies had there been anybody but reindeer to take note of it, or any lightbulbs around to react to the charged atmosphere.
The question is, could this electrical phenomenon be related to genetic mutations?
However, as we notice, the genetic changes that might be induced by these electromagnetic phenomena can be positive or negative and it gives an all-new meaning to creation having taken place by the “Word of God”!
My footnote to the last comment:
One also wonders, in passing, about the possible relationship between electrophonic sounds and the many reports of strange and mysterious sounds coming from the earth and sky in the past few years. Is there a relationship between them and the increasing reports of cannibalism around the planet?
LEGENDS OF THE FALL
Our civilization has known about the flood legends of the Bible for about two thousand years; it was only in the 19th century that we became aware that this story was derived from a more ancient source, the Sumerians. It was then, in the late 19th and early 20th century, that ethnologists and other experts began to collect the flood legends of the North Eurasian peoples and to compare them with similar stories of other peoples. What they found was that the North Eurasian peoples spoke not only of a water-flood, but bombardments of fire and numerous evil suns in the sky described as burning mountains. There were also fire-breathing serpents in the sky and earthquakes that lasted for days, violent storms, torrents of water falling for days and boiling waves as “high as a tent” or mixed with stones. There were descriptions of roaring from the skies, and other horrifying noises followed by grey darkness in the day and nights as black as pitch. Snow storms that lasted for months rounded off the scenarios. Obviously, these stories did not exactly match the relatively benign – even if world covering – Flood of Noah that resulted from a rain lasting 40 days and nights and “fountains of the deep”. The appalling cosmic catastrophe had long-term consequences for all life on our planet, and was, obviously, a world-wide event in one respect or another.
WEREWOLVES, VAMPIRES AND CANNIBALS, OH MY!
A selection of the stories of the Northern Eurasians – mainly those living between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea - have been collected together, along with some of the geological and archaeological evidence – by Heinrich Koch in a book entitled THE DILUVIAN IMPACT . It is highly recommended with a small caveat: he seems to have conflated a number of events. A related book (already mentioned earlier) is a collection of the accounts from Native Americans: MAN AND IMPACT IN THE AMERICAS by E.P. Grondine. One very interesting thing about both of these volumes is that the issue of genetic mutation is described in the myths. In both the Americas and Eurasia, the stories of the impacts and floods include related legends of giants, dwarfs, and cannibals which are not the instigators of the cataclysms as one might infer regarding the Nephilim in the Bible, but rather the consequence of it.
Generally, these stories are about very aggressive, warlike, humanoid monsters. The ancient Native American myths of the Windigo can be traced back to comet catastrophes. Nowadays, of course, the Windigo is thought of as a malevolent, cannabilistic spirt that can possess the bodies of humans and cause them to transform rather like the legends of werewolves but what if it is not possession but rather mutation? They were strongly associated with cold and famine which can be the results of comet events and it is known from medical research that a ketogenic diet and cold adaptation can induce genetic upregulation or downregulation. Generally, these effects are extremely beneficial and neuroprotective, but perhaps it depends on the individual genetic make-up? They were also described as greedy and never satisfied with killing; they were always on the march looking for new victims. Koch writes:
Obviously, vegetarians will have a much harder time in a cataclysmic environment.
THE ELECTROPHONIC COSMIC LOGOS
Returning to the idea of genetic mutations accompanying cometary cataclysms, as it happens, a reader sent me an interesting paper back in 2008 discussing the possibility that the Tunguska event caused genetic changes. The abstract tells us:
The author proposes the idea that electrophonic effects produced by comets/meteors can induce genetic changes in biological organisms. What is curious is that the observed growth anomalies in the trees measured by tree ring width is not strongly correlated to the blast area itself, but rather to the land under the aerial path of the body.
The paper next mentions something that piqued my interest:
This is discussed in terms of whether the volcanically enriched soil was involved with the accelerated tree growth. That’s interesting, but I wondered if there was something about a volcano that actually could attract a body from space? Obviously, that’s a wild question, but still, one wonders! Anyway, regarding the trees:
For the old survived trees the effect of the accelerated growth is more scattered and patchy character. One can find such trees in the forest fall area, as well as outside of it. Again, the effect is more prominent in regions nearby to the TSB [Tunguska Space Body] trajectory. Besides, the contours of the areas, where the effect is observed have oval shapes stretched along the direction of the TSB trajectory (Emelyanov et al. 1979, Vasilyev 1999).
The stretched oval shapes certainly remind us of the Carolina Bays.
The paper goes on for a bit talking about trees and then mentions a possible effect on a human being:
Let’s stop here and talk about electrophonics and meteors. Reports of noisy meteors date back to at least the year 817, when a Chinese observer documented a meteor with a sound "like a flock of cranes in flight." In 1676, Italian astronomer Geminiano Montanari observed one that sounded like "the rattling of a great Cart running over Stones." Montanari’s calculations put the meteor thirty-eight miles up in the sky which was, as he well knew, too far away, for its sound to reach him instantly so he doubted that he had actually heard it though, thankfully, he recorded the data anyway. Later, in 1833, an intense Leonid meteor storm resulted in more reports of meteors that swished, whooshed, or "resembled the noise of a child's popgun." Once again, it was deemed impossible for the sound to have traveled that fast, so the reports were discounted.
These odd reports were unexplained until Colin Keay , of the University of Newcastle in Australia, in 1980, suggested that as meteors fall through Earth's magnetic field, they generate radio signals audible to the human ear.
Keay knew that, ordinarily, radio waves are electromagnetic, not acoustic and thus are not something that one ordinarily “hears”. In order for something to be heard, acoustic waves - vibrations of molecules of air – have to be present. These waves impinge on the eardrum and vibrate the inner ear which then converts the vibrations into sound. Electromagnetic waves such as radio signals and visible light, don't need a medium to propagate, don’t make waves in the air, and thus don't vibrate the human eardrum. Even radio waves of 20 Hz to 20,000 Hz - low frequencies, corresponding to the range of acoustic frequencies that humans can register as sound - are, by themselves, inaudible.
To make radio waves audible, humans invented the transducer, a device that efficiently translates electromagnetic waves into air-moving waves which can then be heard as sound. What Keay discovered was that even ordinary objects can act as such transducers. Slips of paper, aluminum foil, even eyeglasses: when Keay exposed them to rapidly shifting electromagnetic fields (that is, radio waves of very low frequency), the objects oscillated ever so slightly, creating weak--and faintly audible--acoustic waves.
Keay postulated that falling meteors generate very low-frequency radio signals that travel at the speed of light to the ground, where they cause any number of things in the environment to vibrate from your eyeglasses to your hair! That means that, at the exact time that you see the meteor, you may also hear crackling, whistling or swishing sounds; sounds like a jet airplane, or whatever. That is to say, you are not actually hearing sound from the fireball but rather hearing sound from local objects vibrating in response to the intense VLF emission of the fireball. That is also why the phenomenon may be heard by one person and not another
If you need a bit more on why and how this can happen, the idea is that the turbulent plasma trail behind the fireball interacts with the Earth's magnetic field, twisting and distorting it, and as then, as the field relaxes within milliseconds, it emits the VLF waves. Obviously, details such as entry angles and turbulence are probably involved which may be why all meteorites don't produce sounds, but many do. ELF and VLF electromagnetic fields can also be generated by comet or meteor explosions the same way an EMP can be generated by a nuclear explosion.
Getting back to our Tunguska comet/meteor: are there any accounts of anyone hearing it?
And:
Two witnesses recall that the sound was heard before the appearance of the object. One said it sounded like low thunder, another said it was “cavernous” and of a low tone. The scientist who took down these accounts, E. L. Krinov, thought that they were likely psychological in nature, that the witnesses changed the order of seeing and hearing, or thought they heard something when they didn’t. With the information about the potentials for actually hearing these things via electrophonics, let’s assume they were giving an accurate report.
What we notice is that the Tunguska sounds appear to have been very powerful. A similar terrible roar was said to have been heard by eye-witnesses to the South American event in 1935. The more recent 2002 Vitim meteorite which fell on 25 September of that year, was reported to have been accompanied by St. Elmos fire :
The settlement described above where all these electrical phenomena occurred was 30 or 40 kilometers distant from the bolide’s flight path. The Tunguska event was about 3 orders of magnitude greater than the 2002 event so one suspects that it may have caused even greater electric anomalies had there been anybody but reindeer to take note of it, or any lightbulbs around to react to the charged atmosphere.
The question is, could this electrical phenomenon be related to genetic mutations?
However, as we notice, the genetic changes that might be induced by these electromagnetic phenomena can be positive or negative and it gives an all-new meaning to creation having taken place by the “Word of God”!
My footnote to the last comment:
One also wonders, in passing, about the possible relationship between electrophonic sounds and the many reports of strange and mysterious sounds coming from the earth and sky in the past few years. Is there a relationship between them and the increasing reports of cannibalism around the planet?
Laura said:
Fascinating, Laura! Some amazing dots connected, there. The whole bit about the Heat Shock Proteins, which I never knew existed, and their role in evolution is really amazing. It makes me wonder if the cometary bombardment which accompanies the Wave actually serves a functional purpose, not only in the 'cleansing of the Earth', but in fascilitating the evolution of those who survive.