STO VS STS

[Cordillera]

'm still getting frustrated about this STS / STO thing... I wish there was an easy explanation, because it's such a core concept for cassiopaea and similar material. At some level every action is STO (if you look at it from 6D perspective), even though it might seem STS on these lower levels...

Probably everyone in this forum has asked themselves the same questions about what it means to be SAS and SAD, and especially how to apply it in their daily lives.

I believe that simply seeking answers is part of the right path for a SAD candidate. You don't need to have all the answers at the beginning. Here in the forum, there are many clues, but the path is one of self-knowledge, step by step.

The more we know ourselves, the more we can purify our intention, as it is said in Sufism. But we often hide our true intentions under a cloak of kindness and service to others, but when we are honest with ourselves, we can see that ultimately there can be a goal of service to oneself.

Seeing this contradiction is already a step forward.

Regarding the step-by-step process, the Sufi teachings that indicate that the "self" or "nafs" is divided into seven levels or stages can be helpful. The first three are:

1. The Inciting Self, or Lower Self, or the Tyrant Self: At this stage, the self is dominated by worldly passions and desires, driving the person toward evil and lust.

2. The Self-Reproaching Self: At this level, the self begins to become aware of its mistakes and reproaches itself for its actions. I believe your questions arise from this state of self, in which self-knowledge begins, the search for a moral compass (which is being STO and STO), and the constant struggle to align our actions with that compass.

3. The Inspired Self: The self receives divine inspiration and begins to realize its spiritual potential, seeking truth and divine guidance. I believe at this level we are able to integrate the knowledge we have received. In my country, they say "Me cayó la teja". I believe in English, it's "The penny dropped" or "It finally clicked."

Obviously, these states aren't a continuous, direct, upward path. I'd say it's a roller coaster, or at best, a spiral.

In short, what I'm trying to say is that there have been times when I've felt hopeless and confused about these concepts and how to apply them to my life.

In those moments, trusting the process has helped me. That has allowed me to enjoy the journey. Praying, meditating, and grounding myself in the present has also been very helpful when I'm feeling mentally confused and anxious.

I hope this helps.

 

[nortkee]

Probably everyone in this forum has asked themselves the same questions about what it means to be SAS and SAD, and especially how to apply it in their daily lives.

I believe that simply seeking answers is part of the right path for a SAD candidate. You don't need to have all the answers at the beginning. Here in the forum, there are many clues, but the path is one of self-knowledge, step by step.

The more we know ourselves, the more we can purify our intention, as it is said in Sufism. But we often hide our true intentions under a cloak of kindness and service to others, but when we are honest with ourselves, we can see that ultimately there can be a goal of service to oneself.

Seeing this contradiction is already a step forward.

Regarding the step-by-step process, the Sufi teachings that indicate that the "self" or "nafs" is divided into seven levels or stages can be helpful. The first three are:

1. The Inciting Self, or Lower Self, or the Tyrant Self: At this stage, the self is dominated by worldly passions and desires, driving the person toward evil and lust.

2. The Self-Reproaching Self: At this level, the self begins to become aware of its mistakes and reproaches itself for its actions. I believe your questions arise from this state of self, in which self-knowledge begins, the search for a moral compass (which is being STO and STO), and the constant struggle to align our actions with that compass.

3. The Inspired Self: The self receives divine inspiration and begins to realize its spiritual potential, seeking truth and divine guidance. I believe at this level we are able to integrate the knowledge we have received. In my country, they say "Me cayó la teja". I believe in English, it's "The penny dropped" or "It finally clicked."

Obviously, these states aren't a continuous, direct, upward path. I'd say it's a roller coaster, or at best, a spiral.

In short, what I'm trying to say is that there have been times when I've felt hopeless and confused about these concepts and how to apply them to my life.

In those moments, trusting the process has helped me. That has allowed me to enjoy the journey. Praying, meditating, and grounding myself in the present has also been very helpful when I'm feeling mentally confused and anxious.

I hope this helps.

This is a great summary and is very helpful indeed.

I've recognized a pattern to those fleeting moments where I briefly feel like I, like, totally get it, man: They usually come after some kind of struggle and introspection into the how and why of my present circumstances.

The more I inwardly question, the more stable and balanced my life becomes.

I think that's pretty neat.

 

[nortkee]

This is a great summary and is very helpful indeed.

I've recognized a pattern to those fleeting moments where I briefly feel like I, like, totally get it, man: They usually come after some kind of struggle and introspection into the how and why of my present circumstances.

The more I inwardly question, the more stable and balanced my life becomes.

I think that's pretty neat.

Goofy to quote myself and double post, but I wanted to share a small example that happened today, since it's fresh in my brain.

Earlier in the day, before my husband woke up, while I was on my sunrise walk, I texted him a nice message to wake up to (he keeps his phone in the living room) because I was all filled with warm fuzzies, thanks to the walking endorphins. Much later in the day, I realized he never responded, and I started getting a little internally upset.

I found myself nearly slipping into some kind of passive aggression when the realization came, but before I jumped into THAT dangerous watering hole, I checked in with myself and realized that a) my husband loves me and would never intentionally ignore a message and b) due to traveling out of state with my eldest daughter to take her back to her dad's, I was exhausted and bereft at her absence. This makes for a potent elixir of negativity, and those "bad" feelings were searching for anything to glom onto to help them feel valid.

So I let myself feel exhausted and bereft for a moment, with the knowledge of why I truly felt that way.

And then I moved on from my silly little assumption about my incredible partner, and we had a lovely rest of the day with our younger daughter.

 

[undistinguished]

Nice, we got some great points and discussion and a thread going!

I wish that Laura and the gang could maybe have even a whole session about STS and STO nature of things... Because this is so important!

I think it's safe to say, that none of us truly understand the full meaning of STO yet. If we did, then why are we still choosing to be STS? Clinging on to the cozy STS world and on the verge of becoming STO... I'm still here in this 3D STS body in this STS realm, and that is proof enough, that there are still many things I don't understand about STO. It's not coming naturally to me just yet.

Myself, the most struggles for me are with ego and sometimes I catch myself thinking that I want to be STO, not because I want the best for the humanity, but because I want to be "saved" myself... STO obviously being the "rapture" route to the better world, and because I'm such a good person - of course I deserve to be saved to the better 4D future!

I'm sure many of you have have heard the joke about the hippies that "killed their ego", and now they are proudly stating, that "I'm so much better person than you, because I killed my ego!!!" This still happens to me way too often. I look down on others, because they are filthy STS, and I'm a great STO. NOT. Yet, at least.

If I got a free 1000 euros on my account, my first spontaneus thought would be: "What should I buy? Or should I save it in stead?". I'm saddened to find out, that my first thought is not: "I'm so happy, that I can make a world a better place for everyone with these 1000 euros!!!"

Still learning the meaning of STO...