STO

[Laura]

For what it's worth, I was told it was because of kindness. To whom or to what I have no idea.

You sound way too enlightened to hang around here; you ought to create your own website and teach others your way.

 

[Villival]

But I thought you all were the enlightened ones and I didn't do anything but live my life. I don't have the faintest idea how to teach others.

 

[Villival]

And if it wasn't for you and your work, I wouldn't have had the practical tools to understand what happened to me after the fact. It is because of you I HAVE been able to move forward.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

And if it wasn't for you and your work, I wouldn't have had the practical tools to understand what happened to me after the fact. It is because of you I HAVE been able to move forward.

It looks to me that you have used Laura's material in such a way as to reinforce your own wishful thinking, not to practically understand what actually happened. You may or may not have experienced something 'out of this world' - plenty have had such experiences - but it doesn't sound at all as if it was an experience of STO. What service did you provide for others during and after this experience? It sounds completely subjective and 'me'-centered.

My whole life has been "the work". I just didn't know I was doing it consciously.

If it wasn't conscious, it wasn't the work.

 

[theos]

Hi Villival,

I'm not quite sure what you expect us to make of your experience. Having a high strangeness experience is just that. An experience. Your experience didn't seem to do much for you except make you physically ill for a while and shook you up a bit and if this post of yours is to be believed, led to you hooking up with hot, homeless guys who were seemingly from another world. I really can't see how this experience of yours has led to anything positive or beneficial to yourself or others at all.

 

[Menna]

Its ok to be off base its how we learn however you have to be able to be sincere with yourself and see

 

[Joe]

One thing that came to mind on this topic is the comment by the Cs that most people give either the expectation of return to the self or because it 'feels good'. It struck me just how difficult it is for us, as 3D STS, to do anything without considering the self in some way or another.

But then it also struck me that there is a way to give without it "feeling good" or expecting anything for the self in return, at least not in any direct or personal way, and that this forum and the Work that Laura and others have been engaged in for a long time is an example of it.

Particularly when done when in person, but also via this forum, the giving of time, energy and knowledge to another to help them figure things out and help themselves is often NOT something that 'feels good', in fact, it can be a real struggle and, at times, can involve pretty unpleasant feelings.

Just thought I throw that out there as an example of a way out of this STS "trap".

 

[Menna]

Particularly when done when in person, but also via this forum, the giving of time, energy and knowledge to another to help them figure things out and help themselves is often NOT something that 'feels good', in fact, it can be a real struggle and, at times, can involve pretty unpleasant feelings

Agreed and intern through this you learn and add knowledge to your being