Stop Being Nice to a Narcissist—Do THIS Instead | Jordan Peterson Motivational Speech

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I've been living with a narcissist for over 30 years, and just this year, after a terrible backache, I finally, finally opened my eyes. And it's not easy. And this morning, this Peterson video appeared on YouTube with some great advice. It seems like Jordan Peterson is talking to me and talking to me to help me. This is Jordan Peterson, the one who has helped so many people. The one that the members of this forum have loved and respected. This video can help people who deal with narcissists. It's really good because Peterson is clear and straightforward. And he understands what is a narcissist and what is it to live with one.

 
I've been living with a narcissist for over 30 years, and just this year, after a terrible backache, I finally, finally opened my eyes. And it's not easy. And this morning, this Peterson video appeared on YouTube with some great advice. It seems like Jordan Peterson is talking to me and talking to me to help me. This is Jordan Peterson, the one who has helped so many people. The one that the members of this forum have loved and respected. This video can help people who deal with narcissists. It's really good because Peterson is clear and straightforward. And he understands what is a narcissist and what is it to live with one.

and what did petersen say ?? videos are THE tool to eat up your time. while watching, you cant be a nuisance. once you watched you forget... brave new world...
 
and what did petersen say ?? videos are THE tool to eat up your time. while watching, you cant be a nuisance. once you watched you forget... brave new world...
Hmm, I don't understand very much your statement, maybe because I am not English speaker. I think it's important to listen to J. Peterson on the subject. Roughly speaking, he defines what a narcissist is, and how to act with him so as not to suffer. His advice is that we must absolutely not react emotionally to the narcissist's attacks. That is to say, the narcissist will never change, and that the one who must change is the one who is stuck with him. He also talks about the challenges of this change and how to protect oneself from the narcissist. It is not an easy task because the narcissist is very manipulative and the one who lives with him has either been manipulated for many years and suffers the consequences of this person who has power and especially J. Peterson insists that a narcissist does not think like us, has no remorse, does not feel guilty, does not realize the harm he can do, has no regrets, does not question himself. That's pretty much the bottom line for this video, which is definitely worth watching even if you don't live with a narcissistic person.
 
Dr. Ramani on YouTube has hundreds of videos on narcissism. She has also written several books, the latest "It's Not You" I have found very helpful. In my experience she is THE expert, first for having lived through narcissistic parenting and dealing with narcissists in Los Angeles, the hub for everything narcissistic, and also being a PhD psychologist and professor for many years.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dr.+ramani+durvasula+narcissism
 
I do miss good ole JBP, a man that can make so much sense and yet be so very wrong. Although I suppose that could describe most of us.

And yes, I've worked with a narcissist for over a decade and it is a daily task to navigate through his machinations. So much so that I have to measure the time I spend around this person. what I reveal and what I react to and how. It's like working with a very dangerous child.
 
The Galaxy AI summary of that video is pretty good:

How to Stop Being Nice to a Narcissist: Strategies for Emotional Detachment​


Dealing with a narcissist can be a challenging and draining experience. Understanding their mindset and tactics is crucial for anyone looking to maintain their emotional well-being. This video explores how to navigate relationships with narcissists effectively, emphasizing the importance of emotional detachment and self-empowerment.

Understanding the Narcissist's Mindset​

When engaging with a narcissist, it's essential to recognize that they do not operate under the same principles of mutual respect and reciprocity that most people do. Instead, their primary goal is to secure control, attention, and validation on their terms. This often involves distorting reality, gaslighting, and undermining your confidence to make you more manipulable.

The Illusion of Kindness​

Many people mistakenly believe that showing kindness or patience will lead a narcissist to change. However, this is an illusion. Narcissists do not learn through reason or moral appeals; they respond to consequences. Failing to recognize this can lead to endless frustration and emotional exhaustion.

Recognizing Narcissistic Tactics​

To effectively deal with a narcissist, you must pay attention to their patterns rather than their words. Narcissists are skilled at saying what you want to hear, but their actions often tell a different story. Here are some common tactics they use:

Gaslighting​

Gaslighting is a manipulative tactic where the narcissist makes you doubt your own reality. They may deny things they have said or rewrite history, causing you to question your perceptions. Engaging in arguments with them only gives them more control, as it places you in a subordinate position.

Intermittent Reinforcement​

Narcissists often alternate between affection and cruelty, creating a cycle that mirrors addiction. This unpredictability keeps you emotionally invested, hoping for more moments of kindness, which are often just tools of manipulation.

Projection​

Narcissists frequently project their own faults onto others. If they are dishonest, they may accuse you of lying. This tactic serves to deflect attention from their behavior and keeps you busy defending yourself.

The Importance of Emotional Detachment​

Recognizing these tactics is not about becoming cynical; it's about gaining clarity. Once you see the game for what it is, you can stop playing it. Here are steps to detach emotionally from a narcissist:

Stop Seeking Approval​

One of the most self-destructive traps is seeking approval from a narcissist. This includes modifying your behavior to avoid their criticism or gain their acknowledgment. Understand that their inability to respect you is a reflection of their pathology, not your worth.

Disengage from Arguments​

Stop justifying yourself to a narcissist. Engaging in arguments only gives them the power they seek. Instead, let them distort your words or misrepresent your intentions without feeling the need to correct them. Their perception of you is not your responsibility.

Let Go of the Need for Closure​

Closure from a narcissist is often unattainable. They do not reflect on their actions or feel guilt as healthy individuals do. Instead of waiting for an apology or acknowledgment, give yourself the closure you need by deciding to move on.

Setting and Enforcing Boundaries​

Narcissists do not respect boundaries unless they are enforced. Here’s how to set and maintain boundaries effectively:

Be Firm and Consistent​

When you set a boundary, follow through with action. If you say you will not tolerate disrespect, ensure you uphold that boundary. Narcissists will test your limits, and consistency is key to maintaining your power.

Tolerate Discomfort​

Enforcing boundaries may lead to discomfort, as narcissists will react negatively. They may accuse you of being unreasonable or selfish. It’s essential to stand firm and not give in to their manipulations.

Reclaiming Your Power​

The ultimate goal is to reclaim your autonomy and self-worth. This involves redefining your source of validation and recognizing that your worth is not dependent on a narcissist's acknowledgment. Here are some strategies to help you reclaim your power:

Practice Emotional Detachment​

Develop the ability to remain unaffected by a narcissist's provocations. This can involve techniques like gray rocking, where you become uninteresting and disengaged, denying them the emotional reactions they crave.

Focus on Self-Validation​

Your self-worth should come from within. Stop waiting for a narcissist to validate you. Instead, recognize that you are worthy regardless of their opinions or actions.

Move Forward Without Them​

Healing from a narcissist involves letting go of the need for their acknowledgment. Understand that closure comes from within, and choose to move forward without their influence.

Conclusion​

Dealing with a narcissist is undoubtedly challenging, but it is possible to regain control over your life. By recognizing their tactics, setting firm boundaries, and focusing on your own self-worth, you can break free from their manipulative grasp. Remember, the most powerful act of defiance against a narcissist is to stop needing their validation and to reclaim your narrative. In doing so, you will find true freedom and peace.
 
Dr. Ramani on YouTube has hundreds of videos on narcissism. She has also written several books, the latest "It's Not You" I have found very helpful. In my experience she is THE expert, first for having lived through narcissistic parenting and dealing with narcissists in Los Angeles, the hub for everything narcissistic, and also being a PhD psychologist and professor for many years.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dr.+ramani+durvasula+narcissism
Thank you. I hear some of her videos but I was not mentally ready like now. I will look for the book.
 
I've been living with a narcissist for over 30 years, and just this year, after a terrible backache, I finally, finally opened my eyes. And it's not easy. And this morning, this Peterson video appeared on YouTube with some great advice. It seems like Jordan Peterson is talking to me and talking to me to help me. This is Jordan Peterson, the one who has helped so many people. The one that the members of this forum have loved and respected. This video can help people who deal with narcissists. It's really good because Peterson is clear and straightforward. And he understands what is a narcissist and what is it to live with one.
My mother is a narcissist, so I know what you mean. I have distanced myself as a daughter and I realize that I have applied what is recommended in this video. But in a couple, it takes a lot of courage and love to stay together.
 
Be Firm and Consistent
When you set a boundary, follow through with action. If you say you will not tolerate disrespect, ensure you uphold that boundary. Narcissists will test your limits, and consistency is key to maintaining your power.

I would add here that consistency has to be eternal.

Narcissists will test your limits for ever and ever.

Expecting anything different will be self-deception.
 
Be Firm and Consistent
When you set a boundary, follow through with action. If you say you will not tolerate disrespect, ensure you uphold that boundary. Narcissists will test your limits, and consistency is key to maintaining your power.

I would add here that consistency has to be eternal.

Narcissists will test your limits for ever and ever.

Expecting anything different will be self-deception.
Yes, it's very difficult, but you have to be consistent, firm because I see it as a matter of life or death. I'm not saying that metaphorically. And because it's a matter of survival, therefore vital, you need firmness, discipline, and to tell yourself that it's for our own health, mental and physical, for our soul too, that we need consistency, as you say so well. And love for ourselves, tenderness, patience. :flowers:
 
When somebody is blind there is not a power in the world that could explain to them that they are being manupulated. They cry over such people and they start to hate the person who wishes them good. I lost some friends that way.


We live in STS world which means that we all are narcissistic in some measure and not perfect beings but there is a difference when someone uses their tragic childhood story to manipulate others to get some benefits and never changes their behaviour and people who put a lot of effort to heal and can care for others. I don't understand how some people can't see the difference. :-(
 
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