Supermodel psychopathic behavior - shock!

Coming back tho the initial subject of this thread I cannot help but comment on something.

Due to unavoidable set of circumstances I was forced to watch the whole episode of Next America's Top Model yesterday evening. For those who dont know its a real life show, some sort of competition where dozen of young girls live together and compete through various challenges to win the title and juicy contract.

mastermind behind this is Tyra Banks and only after 20 minutes of watching what she does it becomes clear that she is first class psychopath highly skilled in manipulation and mimicry.
Actually it is very easy to see how the whole show is designed to reap abundant supply of the first class food for 4D dwellers.
And like so many times before I asked myself - how can something so beautiful on the outside be so ugly on the inside?
 
I'm reading James Blair's "The Psychopath: Emotion and the Brain", and in it he quotes a study showing that 75% of psychopaths are comorbid with ADHD. In other words, 75% of psychopaths can be accurately diagnosed as ADHD. However, Blair does not give a figure of what % of ADHD are in fact psychopaths.
 
hkoehli said:
I'm reading James Blair's "The Psychopath: Emotion and the Brain", and in it he quotes a study showing that 75% of psychopaths are comorbid with ADHD. In other words, 75% of psychopaths can be accurately diagnosed as ADHD. However, Blair does not give a figure of what % of ADHD are in fact psychopaths.
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What definition does he give for ADHD - I'm curious because, at this point, it seems that every other person on the street has been 'accurately diagnosed' as ADHD. The 'symptoms' of ADHD that are being widely disseminated may simply be a result of our abnormal society, polluted environment and food supplies, and our general 'screwed up' living conditions - and not a biological pathology, per se - basically, I don't buy the ADHD thing - at least not how it is being promulgated currently.

Didn't mean to go on an 'attack ADHD rant' there - but something is just 'off' with that whole 'disorder' - osit.
 
Deckard said:
mastermind behind this is Tyra Banks and only after 20 minutes of watching what she does it becomes clear that she is first class psychopath highly skilled in manipulation and mimicry.
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I happened to watch a snip from an episode of this show last year and i actually thought that Tyra was very caring towards the girls. Come to think of it now, if she had any caring feelings, she wouldn't be there at all.


anart said:
Didn't mean to go on an 'attack ADHD rant' there - but something is just 'off' with that whole 'disorder' - osit.
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I too think the ADHD label is used very loosely nowdays. I've also heard parents in my country using the term to describe their own children. My own observations of the children show nothing out of the ordinary for the children's developmental stage, but it does show the parents' inability for patience, and a tendency to teach the child that they can have anything they ask for (material wise) but nothing of "essence" from the parent, like teaching limits, appreciation, spending quality time, etc. And what's the worst? They take their children to the psychiatrists who prescribe Ritalin more often than not!
 
anart said:
hkoehli said:
I'm reading James Blair's "The Psychopath: Emotion and the Brain", and in it he quotes a study showing that 75% of psychopaths are comorbid with ADHD. In other words, 75% of psychopaths can be accurately diagnosed as ADHD. However, Blair does not give a figure of what % of ADHD are in fact psychopaths.
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What definition does he give for ADHD - I'm curious because, at this point, it seems that every other person on the street has been 'accurately diagnosed' as ADHD. The 'symptoms' of ADHD that are being widely disseminated may simply be a result of our abnormal society, polluted environment and food supplies, and our general 'screwed up' living conditions - and not a biological pathology, per se - basically, I don't buy the ADHD thing - at least not how it is being promulgated currently.
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He uses the APA diagnosis: "a persistent pattern of inattention and/or hyperactivity - impulsivity that is more frequent and severe than is typically observed in individuals at a comparable level of development". The prevalence for ADHD is given as 1-20%. 1.23-3.46% of children show psychopathic tendencies, and it is 75% of these kids that show ADHD as well. So anywhere from 4.6% to 92% of ADHD kids could be psychopathic, depending on which figure for ADHD you use (and if my math is correct...).

There's a whole section later in the book on the issue. I have only skimmed through this part, but the gist of it is that most ADHD is related to a different cause, but which can present similar behavioral characteristics of psychopathy. I'll post more when I get to that part of the book.
 
hkoehli said:
The prevalence for ADHD is given as 1-20%.
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Hmm - is that a typo? One to twenty percent is a huge range. Like it either rarely happens, or it's happening one out of every five times - sounds like they don't really know what's happening, so they're putting this label on it - but the label isn't very accurate or helpful in understanding what it really going on.
 
anart said:
hkoehli said:
The prevalence for ADHD is given as 1-20%.
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Hmm - is that a typo? One to twenty percent is a huge range. Like it either rarely happens, or it's happening one out of every five times - sounds like they don't really know what's happening, so they're putting this label on it - but the label isn't very accurate or helpful in understanding what it really going on.
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I don't think it was a typo. You're probably right about the whole situation, I think.
 
Interesting that the upper limit of the range is stated as 20% - wasn't that the rough estimate of the percentage of population with some degree of ponerogenic influence, once the various psychopathies, characteropathies and other disorders were taken into account?
 
hkoehli said:
I'm reading James Blair's "The Psychopath: Emotion and the Brain", and in it he quotes a study showing that 75% of psychopaths are comorbid with ADHD. In other words, 75% of psychopaths can be accurately diagnosed as ADHD. However, Blair does not give a figure of what % of ADHD are in fact psychopaths.
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Is there some confusion with the Personality Disorders and ADHD?
http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/adhd/symptom.htm
It seems if a person has ADHD they may not have the time or concentration to manipulate and be a 'sucessful' psychopath. Psychopaths seem to me a bit more like a dog going after a bone, they keep going until they get what they want.
 
Naomi Campbell!!!!!!!

Hi everyone ,
i'm not interesting in modelling :) but ,in one thing i'm curious about Naomi Campbell's agressive actions on other people.
I personally don't respect such a behaviour ,whats why i want to ask your opinion about it .
That do you think , is she enjoing by intimidating ,by takink this unhuman behavior on other people( i've noticed that she have problems almost with all persons who worked for her) or is she a "victim" being misunderstood bu the environment ?

[moderator: topic moved to an already existing thread on the subject]
 
sorry ,for my inattention with the topic, now it's more clearly for me the question about Naomi Campbell ...
 
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