Tea Party: party of pathologicals

unk said:
It's time to stop being led by the nose by the media/corporate propaganda machine and find out for yourself what the Tea Party is about. I support them.
This network is not one being "led by the nose by the media and corporate propaganda machine". It is quite the contrary. Are you aware of sott ?

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The average American is fighting to have a voice that can be heard despite the powerful media and governmental entities that act as a barrier. The Tea Party is not a political party. It is the voice of americans expressing frustration with the corruption of our government and its obscene abuse of power. These are people willing to look beyond the shallow political party designation and address problems across the entire spectrum of government.
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When common people start to rise up against the pathocracy, their movements are usually hijacked by the process of ponerization. This has happened many times in the past with the major mass movements- the rise of bolsheviks and the nazis can be traced back to similar circumstances. The tea party movement shows significant signs of such a process at work. There is a lot of information about ponerization in this forum. You can check out the board called Political Ponerology: Macrosocial Evil . You can also check out the website ponerology which is based on Dr Lobaczewski's book Political Ponerology.
 
unk said:
Good grief. Olbermann is a paid talking head with a very narrow world view and exceptionally biased perspective. Or maybe that's just his media 'persona'. His prejudiced viewpoints spread via a powerful media entity are essentially propoganda. He also is prone to fits of hysteria that seems to be contagious to anyone watching.

The average American is fighting to have a voice that can be heard despite the powerful media and governmental entities that act as a barrier. The Tea Party is not a political party. It is the voice of americans expressing frustration with the corruption of our government and its obscene abuse of power. These are people willing to look beyond the shallow political party designation and address problems across the entire spectrum of government.

The federal government has grown beyond its constitutional mandate. Time to clean house. Time to clean out Congress and career politicians. It's time for Americans to take responsibilty for their own life circumstances and stop using government as a force to bully other Americans. It's time to push back against the divisive language used by the federal government and unite as ordinary Americans who prefer freedom to Big Brother.

It's time to stop being led by the nose by the media/corporate propaganda machine and find out for yourself what the Tea Party is about. I support them. I support eliminating the DOE. I support eliminating Social Security. I support eliminating the Federal Reserve. I suppport repealing the 17th ammendment. The senators were supposed to be representatives for the states. The House represents the people. The states are supposed to be sovereign. There is no one to look out for the interests of the state and its sovereignity without the state legislatures being able to appoint senator. Currently, senators elected by the people lookout only for themselves and consider their job to bring home pork from the federal government, attached with federal regulations (ie drinking age). This leads to a dysfunctional government. I support the return to pre-civil war government. We are not children. We are not helpless. We are not victims. If problems occur, we help eachother. We do not need to suck from the government teet to survive.

The federal government is the problem here. Freedom is the solution. Government is the cause of all societal ills. They foment discontent, division and manipulate via propoganda. Listen to the people, not the politicians or talking heads. The people are frustrated as they realize they are not being represented. Government is out of control, pursuing its own agenda regardless of the welfare of the people or the concerns of the people.

It's almost time to vote.

unk, you seem to be unaware of your audience. What brought you to this forum?
 
unk said:
It's time to stop being led by the nose by the media/corporate propaganda machine and find out for yourself what the Tea Party is about. I support them.

Have you looked in the mirror at your nose lately?
You support the Tea Party? Do you realize what that says about you? Hint: it's not positive.
 
unk said:
Good grief. Olbermann is a paid talking head with a very narrow world view and exceptionally biased perspective. Or maybe that's just his media 'persona'. His prejudiced viewpoints spread via a powerful media entity are essentially propoganda. He also is prone to fits of hysteria that seems to be contagious to anyone watching.
Couldn't the same be said for Glenn Beck, with his weeping and crying, imploring people to help him cleanse the country of the communist, Marxist, radical, progressive, socialist, devil spawned liberals that want to enslave the population?
Beck is backed by Murdoch, the same man that pays Hannity, O'Reilly, and a host of other right wing media propagandists.
Which propagandist is more powerful?

The average American is fighting to have a voice that can be heard despite the powerful media and governmental entities that act as a barrier.
How is Fox News and right wing radio acting as a barrier to the people having their voice heard?
This is the media that dominates the radio waves.

The Tea Party is not a political party. It is the voice of americans expressing frustration with the corruption of our government and its obscene abuse of power. These are people willing to look beyond the shallow political party designation and address problems across the entire spectrum of government.
The Tea Party may have started out that way but it's been co-opted by Sarah Palin, Dick Armey, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Rush Limbaugh and other right wing talking heads, who are in turn financed by right wing interests.

The federal government has grown beyond its constitutional mandate. Time to clean house. Time to clean out Congress and career politicians.
Should the corporate lobbyists also be cleaned out?
After all, they'll descend on any politician (career or otherwise) like a swarm of locusts.

It's time for Americans to take responsibilty for their own life circumstances and stop using government as a force to bully other Americans. It's time to push back against the divisive language used by the federal government and unite as ordinary Americans who prefer freedom to Big Brother.
Divisive language is a staple of right wing media, who engage in bullying 24/7.
All you have to do is turn on the radio or TV and watch Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Levin, Coulter, O'Reilly, or a whole host of other well paid operatives to experience divisive language.
Are you pushing back against this?
Anyone not deemed part of the right wing machine is often abeled as "communist", "Marxist", "radical",
"socialist", and "bastards".

It's time to stop being led by the nose by the media/corporate propaganda machine and find out for yourself what the Tea Party is about. I support them.
Fox News is a media/corporate machine, and the Heritage Foundation is one of the premier right wing Christian think tanks that gets promoted on their forum.
Fox hosts Beck, Palin and Hannity, who all claim to know what the Tea Party is all about and represent its values.
Do you support Fox News and Palin, Beck, Hannity, etc or are they liars when they say they know all about the Tea Party?

I support the return to pre-civil war government. We are not children. We are not helpless. We are not victims. If problems occur, we help eachother.
We do not need to suck from the government teet to survive.
Then you are in favor of ending tax breaks for churches, for having children, along with abolishing the
mortgage interest deduction on personal tax returns?
How do you propose to regulate corporate interests that desire to dominate the political and financial landscape?

The federal government is the problem here. Freedom is the solution. Government is the cause of all societal ills.
Do corporations or religions cause any societal ills or are they exempt from scrutiny?

They foment discontent, division and manipulate via propoganda.
You've also just described Fox News and its associated programming.
What's your solution to make sure that the Murdoch empire doesn't sponser lies and propaganda?

Government is out of control, pursuing its own agenda regardless of the welfare of the people or the concerns of the people.
And corporate interests control the government.
You're completely ignoring the reality of corporate power, influence, and agenda.
These entities are part of the wonderful "capitalism" that the country suffers under.
Follow the money and you'll find there's much more at work here than a vague boogy-man called "government".
 
unk, you might also want to read these articles:

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/206962-Rachael-Maddow-on-Koch-Caught-Red-Handed-Backing-Tea-Partiers-Exposes-the-Corporate-Lobbyist-Sponsors-of-the-Contract-from-America
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/207112-The-Totalitarian-Communist-Roots-of-the-Tea-Party-Movement
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/217062-Koch-Footprints-Lead-to-Political-Powder-Keg-Exposing-the-Far-Right-s-Secret-Slush-Fund-to-Keep-Fear-Alive
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/216619-Tea-Party-movement-Billionaire-Koch-brothers-who-helped-it-grow
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/214249-The-New-Yorker-Billionaire-Brothers-Charles-David-Koch-Have-Quietly-Given-More-Than-100-Million-to-Right-Wing-Causes


The Tea Party is anything but grass roots - it's societal manipulation pure and simple, playing on the ignorant, angry and fearful. If you're going to support something, you best actually know what you're supporting.
 
I don't know much about this Tea Party stuff, but it sounds a bit like modern jingoism.

I think the fact that some of their beliefs/demands are actually kind of reasonable, or at least sound that way, is more about pidgeon holing large groups of people in the public eye, or getting them to publicly speak their beliefs so that the PTB know where they stand, just in case they might be standing in the PTB's way.

I think that the Koch's supporting this group is more or less creating the competition to control it, the same with various personalities joining in the "fight."

In my opinion, the only thing wrong with taxes is that the poorest seem to pay the most and the richest seem to pay the least or none.

When it comes to government spending there's too much spending on the Offense Budget (Stop calling it the Defense budget, let's call a spade and spade here) and not enough spending on education and health.

I'd have to say that my personal beliefs don't mesh well with the Tea Party's beliefs, and whatever people they speak for, if those people agree with those beliefs, then I would have to say that I don't really agree with them either, nor do I think that they are making the world a better place. This of course is just my personal opinion, and as my uncle used to say, opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one and they usually stink.
 
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