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http://heritage.scotsman.com/myths.cfm?id=1758692006

Out of this world solution to a Scottish standing stone

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Scotsman said:
THE NEWTON stone is a small, rather unassuming pillar in Aberdeenshire, Scotland. On one side is faded, ancient writing, on the other a curling snake and cylindrical patterning. Many would say that it is a typical example of a Scottish standing stone.

Yet one man claims that this is no ordinary stone, that instead it holds the secret of our missing pre-history. That it shows the birth of Jupiter from Saturn and more explosively, that it proves that someone was around to witness this planetary catastrophe and that this someone may not be human.

Stan Hall doesn't seem like a man who has come to the conclusion that life as we know it may be one big allusion. Sitting in his flat in a seaside town outside Edinburgh he tells of his life as a construction engineer before an adventure in Ecuador changed his outlook on life forever.

Hall was drawn to South America by tales of a fantastic mythical gold and crystal library, said to be hidden in subterranean tunnels somewhere in Ecuador. In 1976 he organised an expedition to try and locate the position of these extraordinary caves - even managing to entice the astronaut Neil Armstrong into coming along for the ride.

During his time there he failed to find the library. Instead he is convinced that he has located the lost city of Atlantis:

"The word comes from Atal and antis. Antis is the name for the Andes and Atal means old, or of the time of the mother waters - or deluge."

Where this all ties into the Newton Stone is complex and involves a past civilisation - the Atlanteans of old and their ancient history.
Hall believes that the same planetary divisions are also shown on old Celtic jewellery*...[see below]

Hall came to believe in the work of Juan Moricz - a Hungarian who lived in Ecuador who professed to have visited the metal library. Moricz theorised that the language spoken in South America was actually ancient Magyar and that this language can be found in ancient Sumerian and Assyrian writing. Hall believes that the Atlanteans spread their language and culture East and West after a crisis pushed them out of their homeland.

"After some interplanetary catastrophe and global deluge, Magyar-speaking survivors from the equatorial Andes...left the continent of Atl Antis," says Hall. "They crossed the Pacific and Atlantic oceans to establish a global federation."

According to Hall, these ancient people travelled to Sumer and the Middle East before, over time, spreading west where their Magyar word for tribe - Catti - became first the khatti-sars of the Assyrians, the Hatti of the Hittites and finally the same Catti who repulsed Julius Caesar from British Shores. He supports this theory by referring to LA Waddell's, 1924 book The Phoenician Origins of Britons, Scots and Anglo-Saxons, which suggests that the writing on the back of the Newton Stone is Hittite. And, according to Hall's theory, if the writing is Hittite, then it follows that the information that the stone depicts came ultimately from the South American Atlanteans,

"The keys to our lost history lie in things like the Newton Stone," says Hall before trying to explain the meaning of the carvings itself in relation to catastrophism theory.

The major proponent of catastrophism was Immanuel Velikovsky, who, in the 1950s, posited the idea that the earth has suffered global catastrophes, mostly caused by planetary action, that have been set down in myths, legends and histories of all ancient cultures. Hall thinks that the Newton Stone demonstrates one such cataclysmic event.

"I recognised that on the Newton Stone it shows two planets breaking away from each other...The double disc and z-rod pictographs...record for posterity the actual birth of Jupiter from Saturn."

Hall believes that this break-up of Saturn - which must have been an extraordinary cosmic moment - has been recorded in the myths of all ancient people.

"The Greeks talk of the night of the falling stars - all major civilisations have records of major interplanetary catastrophes. They're found in old nursery rhymes, which have found to be Sumerian, like 'Hey diddle diddle, the cat and the fiddle' which shows the planets rushing together."

But whilst Hall believes that our mytho-history records these turbulent disruptions, he is unsure whether humans would have been around to witness the events depicted. Which leads to Hall to question who first set down the information? Just who might have been around to see the birth of Jupiter?

Hall's book Tayos Gold, gives more information on the metal library.

"I don't know who saw it," says Hall. "Who could have come through such chaos and written it down?"

One theory that comes into play is that of Erich Von Daniken whose 1968 book Chariots of the Gods?: Unsolved Mysteries of the Past suggested that extraterrestrials visited earth in the distant past.

Hall has come round to believing that this might indeed be what happened after all the interplanetary disruption of break-away planets, concluding that someone might have arrived in Earth looking for safety. It could be that the metal library in Ecuador may contain the proof of our colonisation by aliens.

"Who knows?" says Hall. "Perhaps 'it' brought 'its' treasures and archives to the one place on earth that offered the best possibility for colonisation - namely the equatorial Andes."

With the experience of witnessing interplanetary explosions presumably so vivid in their memories, we should not be surprised that they sought to record the event for prosperity [sic - I guess she meant to say 'posterity'?] - and encouraged their descendants to remember the event forever.
The Scotsman is a national newspaper with wide circulation. I don't know if the story relating to this stone and the actual content of the article has anything to add to our understanding of cyclic catastrophes - perhaps someone here has heard of Stan Hall's work? In any event, I posted this simply to note how certain key words are 'getting out there'. Does this help spread awareness? There are arguements for and against I suppose; but I found the last paragraph striking in its 'accuracy', for want of a better word.

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Can we have some images of the thing? Any expert opinions offered?
 
Laura said:
Any expert opinions offered?
Surprisingly not, not even to dismiss the claim. Unless you consider the man interviewed, Stan Hall, an expert?

From the intro to his website:

www.goldlibrary.com

goldlibrary said:
As a nine-year old In 1945, newsreels of blitzed cities and concentration camps opened his mind to a vision of two kinds of people in the world -- in every sense of the words -- builders and destroyers!

...he explored ancient engineering, civilizations and mytho-history, concluding that South America is the 'missing page of prehistory' and 'interplanetary catastrophism' the missing link in the Creation - Evolution controversy.
His book, published in 2005:

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Blurb for the book: http://www.legendarytimesbooks.com/product.php?productid=291

It all started with Erich von Daniken's The Gold of the Gods! For years EvD was lambasted and accused of perpetrating false information and lies about a mysterious tunnel and cave system in the jungles of Ecuador. This book vindicates EvD and corroborates the story with exact locations and expedition accounts! EvD was correct after all.

Stan Hall organized an expedition of 100 soldiers and scientists from a dozen institutions into the Cave of the Tayos in Ecuador, accompanied by astronaut Neil Armstrong. This detailed report includes Hall's analyses of claims about an alleged metal library and other fabulous treasures concealed in the Tayos caves by an astounding, long lost civilization!

Over the years, Hall developed a long-term relationship with Juan Moricz, whose claim to fame it was to have found the metal library in 1969 which was reported in Erich von Daniken's 'The Gold of the Gods' published in 1972. When Moricz died in 1991, Hall met with a mysterious missing person in the story, alluded to by Moricz though not by name. During six years of questions and collaboration, Ecuadorian citizen Petronio Jaramillo A. was absolutely accepted by Hall as the true source and custodian of the treasure story. They fill in the gaps in their separate trajectories to complete the picture. Hall was then ultimately entrusted with the details of an enormous treasure, including a metal library of thousands of volumes. This book also reports about the discovery of a second library of hard, polished, transparent tablets that cannot be scratched with a knife. Its existence is disclosed here for the first time!

So began Hall's personal odyssey to the heart of global enigmas: the Creation process, origins of mankind, the Golden Age of Saturn, the destruction of Atlantis, Ptolemy's lost city of Cattigara, the sudden rise and fall of mysterious civilizations, and the sublimal 'lemming factor' inherent in the collective consciousness of Mankind. Enigmas Hall found to be unified by Interplanetary Catastrophism as the missing link of prehistory, part of a chain that now includes the metal library of the vanished South American Empire of Tayhuantinsuyu!
Intro to the book:

http://www.goldlibrary.com/tayos_intro.pdf

Will read it, then report back..
 
Starsailor, did you read this book? Would you advise ordering it? I'm still hammering ... somewhere and nowhere. It doesn't 'click', damn it!
 
I have not read it yet. To be honest, I had completely forgotten about it! Hmm, that after having said that I would read it! Sorry folks *feelin' sheepish*

CarpeDiem said:
It doesn't 'click', damn it!
You mean the link to the pdf of the book doesn't work? Or things aren't 'clicking' for you generally?!
 
I have to give credit to Eric Von Daniken for opening my mind to the possibilities of alien visitors when I read his Chariots of the Gods back in the '70's. My second book to read was his Gold of the Gods whose opening chapter contained a description of manmade underground caves filled with wondrous artifacts and records that were older than any known to date. He claimed to have gone down into these caves and to have personally seen these wonders. For years I have always wondered why such a fantastic discovery was not pursued and researched. It sounded like the greatest archaeological find of all time.

So when I came across this thread I had no choice but to get a copy of Tayos Gold and read it. It was enlightening and at the same time disappointing. Von Daniken took certain 'literary licenses' with his story and greatly embellished it. He had never been to the caves he describes, and it turns out he got his info third hand, i.e., from a man who heard it from the man who actually found the caves with the records. I was severely disappointed when I read this.

The author [Hall] of Tayos Gold names all of these men, his interactions with them, and his efforts to visit the caves. Although he visited one large cave, it had no artifacts in it. Hall searched for the "treasure cave" but never found it, and the man who originally said he found it is now dead.

After all of this, I still do not know whether the cave and all those fantastic records exist. or if there is anyone alive today who actually knows where it is.
 
Do you guys know exact location of this stone ?
I could take a real photo of it because I am nearby and it looks like that original link to article is damaged somehow so I cannot read it.
 
drygol said:
Do you guys know exact location of this stone ?
I could take a real photo of it because I am nearby and it looks like that original link to article is damaged somehow so I cannot read it.

Check this out:

Newton Standing Stone

The Newton Stone is one of two standing stones in the grounds of Newton House, Aberdeenshire. Both were relocated from Shevock, a mile (1.5 km) to southeast, and are 2.05m (6¾ feet) in height. The Newton Stone shows traces of Ogam writing together with another unknown script, while the second is a Pictish symbol stone featuring a well-defined serpent and circular, perhaps celestial, pattern. A 2006 book Tayos Gold claimed the circular pattern was a depiction of the birth of the solar system recorded by alien visitors.

_http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/scotgaz/features/featurefirst17736.html

and

Newton Stone

2 stones; 1 bearing an incised double disc and serpent and Z-rod; the other, the 'Newton Stone' from Shevoch, 1 mile to SE, bears traces of ogham writing and an unknown script. Note the vividly carved scales on the snake.
Directions

* Grid ref: NJ 662 297 Ordnance Survey Landranger Series sheet no. 33

10 miles NW of Inverurie on A96 1/2 mile N of Old Rayne turning, turn N at lodge and follow drive to Newton House. Call at house for permission and further directions.

_http://www.aberdeenshire.gov.uk/archaeology/sites/pictish/newton.asp
 
Thanks for that bltay.
Ill try to go there on Saturday , maybe Ill manage to get there and take few real photos of it :)
 
Eric von Daniken did do a 50th anniversary celebration speech/presentation recently (well maybe it was last year, but I just saw it on line ) ... not anything new, but the footage of that lake under the pyramid was cool to see.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5H8PwbwkMQ
 
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