Terror in Las Vegas: Mass shooting at Route91 Harvest music festival

A convenient alibi ...... :huh:

Las Vegas Strip shooter prescribed anti-anxiety drug in June
_https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/the-strip/las-vegas-strip-shooter-prescribed-anti-anxiety-drug-in-june/
By Paul Harasim ©2017, Las Vegas Review-Journal October 3, 2017 - 9:00 pm
Stephen Paddock, who killed at least 58 people and wounded hundreds more in Las Vegas on Sunday with high-powered rifles, was prescribed an anti-anxiety drug in June that can lead to aggressive behavior, the Las Vegas Review-Journal has learned.

Records from the Nevada Prescription Monitoring Program obtained Tuesday show Paddock was prescribed 50 10-milligram diazepam tablets by Henderson physician Dr. Steven Winkler on June 21.

A woman who answered the phone at Winkler’s office would not make him available to answer questions and would neither confirm nor deny that Paddock was ever a patient.

Paddock purchased the drug — its brand name is Valium — without insurance at a Walgreens store in Reno on the same day it was prescribed. He was supposed to take one pill a day.

Diazepam is a sedative-hypnotic drug in the class of drugs known as benzodiazepines, which studies have shown can trigger aggressive behavior. Chronic use or abuse of sedatives such as diazepam can also trigger psychotic experiences, according to drugabuse.com.

‘They can become aggressive’

“If somebody has an underlying aggression problem and you sedate them with that drug, they can become aggressive,”
said Dr. Mel Pohl, chief medical officer of the Las Vegas Recovery Center. “It can disinhibit an underlying emotional state. … It is much like what happens when you give alcohol to some people … they become aggressive instead of going to sleep.”

Pohl, who spoke to the Review-Journal from the Netherlands, said the effects of the drug also can be magnified by alcohol.

A 2015 study published in World Psychiatry of 960 Finnish adults and teens convicted of homicide showed that their odds of killing were 45 percent higher during time periods when they were on benzodiazepines.

A year earlier, the Australian and New Zealand Journal of Psychiatry published a study titled, “Benzodiazepine Use and Aggressive Behavior.” The authors wrote: “It appears that benzodiazepine use is moderately associated with subsequent aggressive behavior.”

Dr. Michael First, a clinical psychiatry professor at Columbia University and expert on benzodiazepines, said the Finnish study speaks for itself. But he also told the Review-Journal on Tuesday that he believes the drugs would be more likely to fuel impulsive aggression than premeditated behavior.

“What this man in Las Vegas did was very planned,” he noted, referring to reports that Paddock sneaked an arsenal of weapons into the Mandalay Bay and placed cameras inside and outside his room before launching his attack.

Why was it prescribed?

First said it would be important to discover why Paddock was prescribed the drug.

“That may have more to do with why he did what he did,” First said.

The Nevada state monitoring report also noted that Winkler prescribed 50 10-milligram tablets of diazepam to Paddock in 2016. He also filled that prescription the day it was written, this time at Evergreen Drugs in Henderson. It was for two tablets a day.

Questions have long swirled around whether psychiatric drugs are linked to mass school shootings in the United States, though researchers have yet to find a definitive connections, despite several studies.

Critics of unscientific linkage in the news media and on social media between psychiatric drugs and violence say it stigmatizes those who benefit from their use. That, in turn, can make people quit using medications that can actually be lifesavers, they say.

On Monday, actress Kirstie Alley, best known for her role in the TV sitcom “Cheers,” stirred controversy by tweeting that guns and psychiatric drugs are the common denominators in recent mass shootings in the United States. She cited no evidence that Paddock has used the drugs.
Las Vegas Recovery Center
What Dr. Pohl Thinks About His New Position (Plus: His Plans for the Future)
Oct 5, 2016
_https://lasvegasrecovery.com/dr-mel-pohl-new-position/
Dr. Pohl has been on the road a lot over the last couple of months, speaking about the opioid crisis and pain recovery at conferences, events and talk shows. Despite his busy schedule, however, he took a few minutes while he was working at LVRC last week to answer a few questions about his new role and his plans for 2017.

You were the Medical Director and now you’re the Chief Medical Officer: How are the two positions different?

As the Medical Director, I was directly responsible for the day-to-day care of all of Las Vegas Recovery Center’s clients. As the Chief Medical Officer, I’ll be actively involved at LVRC, but I’ll leave the day-to-day responsibilities to our excellent medical team.

What do you like best about your role?

My new position enables me
to teach about chronic pain outside of the facility without having to attend to the details of what’s happening at the facility when I’m offsite. It used to be that when I’d be gone, it left a vacuum. Now I’m freer to be on the road to educate people about addiction and pain recovery, knowing full and well that the clients are being well-cared for.

Why did you decide to take this promotion?

I’m getting older! (he laughs). I didn’t want to retire because I love LVRC and I love what I do, so this was a good compromise. The position allows me to be active in the addiction recovery field and teach about pain and addiction, but still be involved in all aspects of care.

You’ll be traveling some over the next few months. How often will you be physically working from Las Vegas Recovery Center?

I’ll be working regular periods of time at the center—about one week per month. The rest of the time I will be on the road, writing, lecturing and teaching.

Are there any professional goals for 2017 that you’d like to share?

My goals are to spread the word about pain recovery and functional restoration. We’re still in a culture where people want to be on opioids and avoid pain at any cost. I want to be able to make an impact on this societal problem and help people in pain but also help the the healthcare professionals in charge of treating those with chronic pain.

You’ve been making numerous television and radio appearances lately. What do you hope to accomplish by putting yourself in the spotlight?

I want to be famous! (He laughs, joking). No, but in all seriousness, I want to get the message out to as many people as possible. TV and radio are one of the best ways to do this.

About Mel Pohl, MD, DFASAM

Dr. Mel Pohl, Chief Medical Officer at Las Vegas Recovery Center, has been working in the field of addiction and pain recovery for over 30 years. He is the author of several books on addiction and chronic pain, including A Day Without Pain. To learn more or to request Dr. Pohl as a speaker or presenter, visit his profile on Central Recovery’s Speakers Bureau site.

Knocking out pain without drugs
Dr. Manny chats with Dr. Mel Pohl, author of “The Pain Antidote:
Nov. 23, 2015 - 5:56
_http://video.foxnews.com/v/4628199398001/?#sp=show-clips


Las Vegas Shooting Strange Facts & Inconsistencies - Jay Dyer (1:12:44)
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_oI_wfksVA
 
First it was reported that Paddock's room was found because of smoke alarm that went off:
Las Vegas police were able to rapidly track down "psychopath" shooter Stephen Paddock as he carried out his deadly assault on concert goers after a smoke alarm was triggered in his room.

Police stormed the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino on Sunday from where the 64-year-old had been raining gunfire onto crowds below, killing 59 and injuring at least 500 more.

The attack was meticulously planned but an oversight by Paddock led to police being able to pinpoint his exact location. [...]

Smoke filled the hotel room as he unloaded round after round into crowds, triggering the alarm and leading police to his door, Randy Sutton, a retired lieutenant with the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, told the Washington Post.
But now it's been reported that it was an unarmed security guard who found his room:

An unarmed hotel security guard was the first person to find and attempt to stop Las Vegas mass shooter Stephen Paddock — and his bravery likely saved countless lives, according to a new report.

Mandalay Bay ​security ​guard Jesus Campos was carrying just a nightstick when he tried to open Paddock’s barricaded door on the hotel’s 32nd floor Sunday night, the Daily Beast reports.

Paddock, who had cameras looking outside his room, stopped shooting at the crowds below and fired through the door at Campos, blasting him in the right leg.

Campos immediately called in to the casino’s dispatch to report on the shooter’s location — and other guards and cops were then able to rush to the location and draw Paddock’s fire.

Yet in wikipedia the narrative goes like this:

"By around 10:25 p.m., a group of law enforcement officers had reached the floor of the shooter and placed it on lockdown. When they announced themselves outside of his suite, Paddock fired through the door, wounding a hotel security guard. At around 11:21 p.m., police breached the room with explosives. The perpetrator was found dead, having shot himself in the head before the police entered. At 11:58 p.m. the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department reported that one suspect was down."

The story keeps changing...
 
As the wounded kept coming, hospitals dealt with injuries rarely seen in the U.S.
October 3 at 8:13 PM
_https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/as-the-wounded-kept-coming-hospitals-dealt-with-injuries-rarely-seen-in-the-us/2017/10/03/06210b86-a883-11e7-b3aa-c0e2e1d41e38_story.html?tid=ss_mail-amp&utm_term=.a45aae99b34c
LAS VEGAS — As trauma nurse Renae Huening rushed into Sunrise Hospital and Medical Center on Sunday night, she “followed a trail of blood indoors.”

Dozens of patients already were crammed into the waiting area, hallways and rooms of the hospital’s emergency department. Some were “red-tagged,” meaning they needed attention immediately. Names were being assigned randomly because there was no time to register people or find IDs.

Huening could smell the blood.

“The air smells like iron,” she recalled Tuesday, barely 24 hours after hundreds of doctors and nurses throughout Las Vegas treated more than 500 victims of the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

“You’re standing in a pool of blood trying to care for your patient, slipping and sliding,” Huening said. “Soon you’re covered in blood yourself.”

As investigators fill in the details of Stephen Paddock’s rampage during a country music festival along the Las Vegas Strip, doctors, nurses and paramedics are recounting injuries they say are rarely seen in this country. And even the hardiest medical professionals acknowledged being rattled.

With Paddock perched on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino and firing military-style rifles onto the crowd of concertgoers below, the scale and degree of physical damage were extreme.

So many patients poured into the city’s hospitals that pediatric surgeons were operating on adults and obstetricians were attending to trauma patients.

Many of the most critically wounded patients arrived at the 541-bed University Medical Center of Southern Nevada, the state’s only Level One trauma center. Over about four hours, it received 104 patients. More than 80 percent were gunshot victims.

Douglas R. Fraser, the hospital’s chief of trauma surgery, struggled with other doctors there to deal with bullet wounds in torsos and limbs that had shredded human flesh into “unusual patterns,” caused “extreme fractures” and bounced through bodies with horrific force.

“These were quite large wounds that we saw,” he said Tuesday. “The fractured shrapnel created a different pattern and really injured bone and soft tissue very readily. This was not a normal pattern of injuries.”

Gun deaths are this nation’s third-leading cause of injury-related fatalities, with the most recent data showing that firearms accounted for more than 36,200 deaths in 2015. Over a nine-year period, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, almost 971,000 people were hurt or killed by firearms in the United States — with a just-released study finding that such injuries cost nearly $25 billion in hospital emergency and inpatient care from 2006 to 2014.

The devastation that semiautomatic rifles cause to the human body is extreme because they put vastly more energy behind bullets than handguns do.

The velocity of a bullet fired from a typical 9mm handgun is 1,200 feet per second. From an AR-15 semiautomatic, the bullet travels roughly three times faster, and the body must absorb all of that energy.

If a 9mm bullet strikes someone in the liver, for example, that person might suffer a wound perhaps an inch wide, said Ernest E. Moore, a longtime trauma surgeon at Denver Health and editor of the Journal of Trauma and Acute Care Surgery. “But if you’re struck in the liver with an AR-15, it would be like dropping a watermelon onto the cement. It just is disintegrated.”

Survival generally depends on several factors: the position of the body when it was struck and its distance from the weapon; the velocity of the bullet and the type used; and the location of the entry wound and path the bullet follows before it exits — if it exits at all.

Once inside the body, a high-velocity bullet causes a shock wave as it blasts through tissue. The reverberations expand outward, causing more harm.

“When that happens, it stretches all the blood vessels and tears them, and you lose blood supply to the entire area,” said Faran Bokhari, chairman of the Trauma and Burn Unit at Cook County Health and Hospitals System in Chicago, which sees 1,000 gunshot victims a year.

By contrast, even a grievous knife wound damages only the organs and tissues directly in its path.

About half of the victims taken to University Medical Center suffered graze wounds, probably from bullets that ricocheted off the ground, Fraser said. Other patients may have been struck by bullets that passed through other victims. Some were hurt as they tried to flee — or were trampled in the panic.

But 30 were in critical condition after suffering direct hits, he said.

Across the city, hospital administrators called in their entire staffs within minutes of hearing of the shooting and mass casualties. Elite neurosurgeons were mobilized. Environmental technicians were tasked with cleaning up blood.

And the patients just kept coming — by ambulance, in the beds of pickup trucks, in the backs of SUVs.

Of those who arrived at University Medical Center, Fraser believes, doctors were unable to revive only one — someone who had been shot in the head.

“A lot of the injuries were gunshots to the chest,” Fraser said. He spoke Tuesday as a professional, matter of fact rather than emotional. “Many did not require surgery but required chest tubes to the chest so they could breathe better. The other patients had surgery to remove holes to their bowels and intestines.”

For hours, some patients were in danger of suffocating on their own blood. So many wounds resembled those most often seen on battlefields that the hospital quickly contacted four Air Force trauma surgeons who happened to be participating in a visiting-fellow program there.

“They are used to seeing those things,” Fraser said.

At one point early Monday, surgeons were conducting five operations simultaneously. “They just came in by the dozens — some of them in a bed, some on a seat — and we just tried to make room for these folks,” said Syed Saquib, who was the chief surgeon on duty.

About five miles away at Sunrise Hospital, 214 patients were treated in three hours — nearly the number typically seen in a day.

Scott Scherr, the director of emergency medicine, got to his hospital about 30 minutes after the attack began, breaking “every traffic law in Las Vegas” along the way.

The scene inside stunned him. He remembers blood pouring off gurneys.

“That moment was shocking, but as soon as that moment passed, I knew I had a job to do,” Scherr said. He would end up working 20 straight hours.

Hospital staffers gave each patient red or green triage tags identifying the degree of their injuries. When beds filled up, some of the less injured sat on the floor.

Identifying the most critical wasn’t always easy. Bullets can tumble as they pierce a body, meaning that even a patient with a small hole in a shoulder could have a tear in a lung or aorta, too.

“They look okay, but they can turn in a heartbeat,” said Huening, the trauma nurse.

The surgeries were back to back and seemingly endless. Anesthesiologist Dean Polce was involved in 27 operations. Twenty-six of the patients lived, he said Tuesday, breaking down as he spoke.

“I wish we could have done more,” Polce said, lowering his eyes as he choked up. “Where that bullet goes in the body is really hard to guess.”

There weren’t enough X-ray machines at times, given the volume. Some supplies ran low. At one point, the emergency room ran out of chest tubes, and staff from nearby MountainView Hospital drove over with a pickup truck full of them.

Certified nursing assistant Jacqueline Rodriguez said she can’t forget one patient, clearly very scared, who needed a chest tube inserted quickly.

“I saw the look of terror in her eyes. I said, ‘Squeeze my hand, scream, do whatever you need to do. It’s going to hurt, but years later, you’re going to look back at this, and you’re going to be alive.’ ”

Sun reported from Washington. Heather Long and Lynh Bui in Las Vegas contributed to this report.
 
Speaking to reporters on Wednesday afternoon, sheriff Joseph Lombardo said “he had to have some help”.

Mr Lombardo said investigators did not have any other suspects at this stage, but they were “determined to find out if there was”.

“You look at the weapon obtaining, the different amounts of Tannerite [explosives] available, do you think this was all accomplished on his own?

“On face value, you’ve got to make the assumption he had to have some help at some point, and we want to ensure that that’s the answer.”

_http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/vegas-shooter-likely-had-an-accomplice-sheriff/news-story/610951816aa48c1d9e66867269147835
 
JEEP said:
_https://www.intellihub.com/was-there-a-shooting-at-caesars-palace-15-minutes-after-the-music-festival-massacre/

Vegas union worker blows whistle on “mandatory active shooter training” which was due “Sept. 30” at “12 a.m.”

(INTELLIHUB) — According to a report released by Youtuber “DAHBOO77,” a Las Vegas union worker released a photograph of a bulletin for a “mandatory active shooter training” with a “due date” of “Sept. 30, 2017, 12 a.m.,” which nearly coincides with the shooting.

Was such a drill held on the same day to serve as cover encase operatives or the shooter(s) were caught bringing weaponry into the Mandalay Bay?

The bulletin also mentioned “training in casino essentials” and talked about “completion of the course.”

DAHBOO77 explains:


https://youtu.be/4kABEsiUIGc

_https://www.intellihub.com/vegas-union-worker-blows-whistle-on-mandatory-active-shooter-training-which-was-due-sept-30-at-12-a-m/

Regarding the training. This is a course every casino employee (at least in my company's chain) must take at least once a year. I've worked at a smallish casino for two years now and have been run through a version of that course at least three times. So I don't put so much stock into this particular data point. The timing is interesting, but the course is not novel, or a recent addition.
 
I don't know if this video was shared here. It's from a SOTT article and was in the Editor's comment. To me, it clearly shows at least 2 shooters if not 3:


https://youtu.be/nG2oQ65zi-Q

He makes a lot of sense and does demonstrate the different sounds of what these rifles make and why.
 
Seppo Ilmarinen said:
First it was reported that Paddock's room was found because of smoke alarm that went off

(.....)

But now it's been reported that it was an unarmed security guard who found his room

(.....)

Yet in wikipedia the narrative goes like this

Plus there was also this Iraq vet who claims that he helped the police to locate the gunman. Very confusing indeed.
 
According to this article, "“Typically after mass shootings, gun sales go up”. Sort of - defeats the cause - of staging mass shootings on the one hand and attempting to confiscate guns with the other?

Reports said the gun tourism business in Las Vegas, Nevada, remains popular in the aftermath of the mass shooting that killed 59 people and injured over 500 others on Sunday night.

Gun Tourism Thriving in Las Vegas despite Massacre
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13960713000846

It was business as usual for shooting ranges across the city on Monday morning, merely hours after a 64-year-old man rained bullets on a large crowd attending a music festival next to his hotel, committing what has become known as the deadliest mass shooting is modern US history, presstv reported.

While the tragedy has once again prompted nationwide debates over stricter gun control laws, shooting ranges in Vegas have been providing military-grade weapons to all people for a small price.

In one center, named Machine Gun Helicopters, the patrons can board helicopters and fire automatic weapons at human dummy targets from a chopper, in what the owners call a “true door gunner experience.”

A billboard for Battlefield Vegas, another shooting range, offers enthusiasts the chance to shoot a 50-caliber machine gun for only $29.

More than 100,000 people are shot each year in the US at a total cost of $45 billion, according to a a study.

Ironically, the shooting ranges themselves agree that there should be more laws regulating guns across the US.

“We believe, as we always have, that there should absolutely be more stringent control on the types of firearms private individuals can own and the processes they must go through in order to own those firearms,” Machine Guns Vegas said in a statement emailed to the Huffington Post.

“There were many factors contributing to this tragic event, but there is no doubt that the shooter’s ability to inflict so many casualties was heavily due to the types of weapons he had access to.”

The more shocking aspect of America’s apparent gun problem is the fact that more people tend to buy guns following mass shootings like the one that happened in Vegas, says the Brady Campaign, a group that seeks to reduce gun deaths.

“Typically after mass shootings, gun sales go up,” said Avery Gardiner, the organization’s co-president. “I would guess that activity at shooting ranges follows that pattern, too.”

Trump has traveled to Las Vegas to meet with victims of Sunday night's deadly shooting, while still refusing to talk about the broader issue of gun violence.

The issue seems to be widening at faster rates in Nevada, which has long been associated with the Wild West and gun culture.

“Nevada has some of the most lax gun laws in the nation,” Gardiner said.

During his visit to Vegas on Wednesday, President Donald Trump dodged questions about the issue of gun violence in his country.

Trump’s 2016 election campaign was heavily funded by the National Rifle Association (NRA), an organization which advocates for gun rights.
 
voyageur said:
I think this person (Truthstream Media) has had videos appear on the Forum before. Near the beginning of the video she brings up 4Chan from back on September 11th (some post entries that might be nothing or something), and then starts to pinpoint some side discussion on "hotel security" that is flooding the MSN and a discussion on the Chair of the MGM group (and others), and people like Michael Chertoff and his group - this discussion harkens back to 9/11 and is more a discussion on post event cui bono issues, as the title describes, possibly dialectic outcomes.

I'm not ascribing to everything she has said, however, there are a few dots here to consider or dispel.

(16:00 min.)


https://youtu.be/zNqxUuyHFzc

Variety
Las Vegas Tragedy Raises Questions About Security, Gun Laws and Partisan Battles
October 3, 2017 6:00AM PT
_http://variety.com/2017/music/news/las-vegas-shooting-security-gun-safety-1202578758/
Caleb Keeter, guitarist for country outfit the Josh Abbott Band, wrote a living will on Sunday night. Hiding with his bandmates and crew in the safety of a tour bus after playing a set at the Route 91 Harvest Music Festival in Las Vegas, while machine gun bullets hailed down,
“I felt like I wasn’t going to live through the night,”
he wrote on Twitter the following morning.
“I’ve been a proponent of the Second Amendment my entire life. Until the events of last night. I cannot express how wrong I was.”

That change of heart was prompted by the worst mass shooting in the U.S., which killed at least 59 concert attendees and injured more than 500. It was the overwhelming sentiment throughout the live entertainment industry, which in recent years has seen more than one terrorist act of this kind — the Bataclan in Paris in November 2015, Orlando’s Pulse dance club in 2016, and Ariana Grande’s Manchester Arena concert in May. But although the Islamic Front claimed responsibility for the incident, police did not immediately call the mass shooting a terrorist attack. The lone assailant, identified as 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, was shooting from a window on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, and was believed to have shot himself.

The attack sent a chill through the live entertainment industry, in which security is a top concern, considering crowds that routinely surpass thousands of revelers. Exactly one week before, the city was celebrating the Life Is Beautiful festival over a three-day downtown gathering of music, art and culture. The event was just one of the dozens hosted in Las Vegas on any given weekend. The iHeartRadio Music Festival, featuring such acts as Halsey and One Direction star Niall Horan at the same open-air location as Route 91, was running concurrently.

“Safety is always the number one priority — there are no ifs, ands or buts,”
says Life Is Beautiful head of music and live performances Craig Nyman. “We’re in this industry because we want people to come and have that amazing experience — to relish that moment with their favorite band.”

Chris Robinette, CEO of Prevent Advisors, the security-consulting division of Oak View Group, says there is increased concern from artists and managers about heightening safety:
“The entire ecosystem is secured to the best of the industry’s ability, but these attacks have manifested themselves with vehicle rammings — like in London — indoor active shooters like the Bataclan; explosive devices in Manchester; and now an active shooter from a distance in Las Vegas. How do we mitigate that?”

Adds Imagine Dragons frontman Dan Reynolds:
“If someone has enough hate in their heart, they’re going to try to find a way to act upon it. There’s only so much you can do.”

Oak View’s Robinette says the key is more collaboration with local law enforcement, as well as
“coordination with other security entities in adjacent buildings.”
He adds: “Concert promoters and managers will have to ask themselves, ‘Is our staff prepared and trained for an active shooter? How do we evacuate? How do we provide immediate care? And have we rehearsed this with local law enforcement?’ No one is suggesting you can reduce these risks to zero, because you can’t.
But you can mitigate them to the highest degree possible. I assure you that [professional sports] is having that conversation right now about how they offset those risks.”

That means “bumping up the security even more,” says Reynolds, whose Vegas-based band played the city just two nights earlier and had just wrapped a show at the Hollywood Bowl when it received word of the shooting.
"We’re going to ensure we do everything in our power to make our concerts a safe space. I refuse to let an individual have any power of putting fear into my heart about my career choice.”

The reenergized debate on gun control is made even more relevant considering the audience for country music — the Route 91 festival featured such superstars as Jason Aldean and Jake Owen — is primarily a red state one. Yet it does little to assuage those impacted by such a tragedy, either directly or indirectly.

“Even though Vegas is seen as this tourist destination, there’s a real sense of community there, and pride,”
Reynolds told Variety.
“My best friend from middle school was [at the concert] bartending. He was on the phone sobbing, telling me he barely got out of it. He hid behind the bar, and right when the gun shots paused, he jumped over and said there were people all over on the ground. He ran, hopped a fence and got into a stranger’s car.” Reynolds’ brother is an anesthesiologist at a Las Vegas hospital who described a “devastating” scene. “People were coming in all night with gunshot wounds to their extremities and shrapnel,”
says the singer.

“In so many ways, it felt personal,” said iHeartRadio’s Bobby Bones, the top syndicated radio personality in the country format, who had played the festival as a musical/comedy act on Saturday night. “It’s such a fan-based genre. It went very quickly from ‘Hey, is everyone OK — meaning the artists — to ‘What can we do to help the people that were hurt?’”

As shocking and unprecedented as the shootings were, there were few signs that it would change the dynamics of the typical partisan battle lines that form after a massacre — that this could be the turning point that galvanizes action on Capitol Hill.

President Trump called for unity and observed a moment of silence, but even Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) stopped short of calling for legislation. Instead, he pointed to the motives of the assailant. “We have to reckon with the fact that this man was able to acquire an arsenal of military grade weapons,” said Schumer in a somber statement from the floor of the Senate.

Just outside the Capitol, retired astronaut Mark Kelly stood with his wife, Gabby Giffords — a shooting victim herself — and asked,
“If not now, when? … Thoughts and prayers aren’t going to stop the next shooting. Only action and leadership will.”

After Giffords was shot during a constituent event in Tucson in 2011, there was no significant action from Congress. Nor was there after the Sandy Hook massacre, in which 20 children and six adults were shot. Last year, Democrats in the House staged a sit-in on the floor to demand gun violence legislation move forward in the aftermath of the Pulse nightclub shooting, but again, that did not happen. Nevada state law does not require a permit to purchase shotguns or handguns, and there is no legislation in place restricting magazine capacity on automatic rifles.

“There have been 273 mass shooting incidents in America in 2017.
How many more of these tragedies must we endure before we enact common-sense policies that place reasonable restrictions on firearm access?”
asked Kurt Bardella, who authors a daily country music tip sheet and is also the former spokesman for Breitbart News, the Daily Caller and several congressional Republicans.
“Clearly doing nothing isn’t working,” he added. “The reality is, for meaningful reform to have a viable chance, more people need to reevaluate their position on gun reform, embrace a change of heart and speak out.”

The Chertoff Group
Effective Aviation Security Requires International Coordination
By: Dr. Bennet Waters Source: The Cipher Brief
_http://www.chertoffgroup.com/news-events/in-the-news/680-effective-aviation-security-requires-international-coordination
On June 28, U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary John Kelly announced enhanced security measures for all flights coming into the United States. Calling for additional “screening of electronic devices, more thorough passenger vetting, and new measures designed to mitigate the potential threat of insider attacks,” Kelly pointed to both evaluated intelligence and the well-known focus of our adversaries in adapting their efforts to attack commercial aviation as reasons for the additional measures.

Kudos to Secretary Kelly and his team for a thoughtful strategy to protect the traveling public. Since announcing restrictions on personal electronic devices (PEDs) for passengers departing from ten international airports earlier this year, Sec. Kelly was rumored to be considering a global expansion of those restrictions. Instead, he has chosen to take a more measured approach while challenging the international community to raise its bar.

DHS cannot secure aviation on its own, and in calling for higher international standards, Kelly is simultaneously challenging and offering to partner with the world in raising the bar for aviation security. And with good reason: terrorists have been focused on killing innocent people on airplanes for decades. Whereas guns and knives were the weapons of choice in the 70s and early 80s, our adversaries have turned their attention to explosives, and unfortunately with some success.

Effective security exists under constant tension between restrictions on individual liberties and actions designed to minimize – but not eliminate – risk. Security is also a shared responsibility. In that spirit, Sec. Kelly has engaged the private sector and the international community to collaborate with DHS in a three-pronged approach:

-Screening electronic devices. Richard Reid’s shoes and Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab’s underwear are perhaps the most memorable terrorist efforts to use explosives to blow up commercial aircraft, but they are far from the only ones. The latest threat comes from explosives embedded inside electronic devices. DHS is coaxing international partners to expand their focus on PEDs through the application of explosive trace detection techniques, the expanded use of explosive detection canines and other advanced screening procedures.

-More thorough passenger vetting
. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) currently collect and analyze certain data from the Advanced Passenger Information System and each Passenger Name Record to evaluate travelers’ potential risks to aviation security and admissibility into the United States. As part of the new measures, CBP will be expanding the number of “preclearance” locations, thus enhancing the amount and timeliness of information available to U.S. security personnel.

-New measures to mitigate the threat of insider attacks. The 2016 explosion on Daallo flight #159 underscored that bombs aren’t just carried onto airplanes by terrorist passengers; they can also be facilitated by those working on or around the airplanes themselves (and thus bypassing passenger screening procedures). TSA has already implemented domestic programs to screen against such “insider” threats, including physical employee screening, persistent background checking and other procedures. The international community will need to follow suit.

Finally, Secretary Kelly’s announcement reflects the continuing maturation of DHS. While the liquid explosives plot of 2006 – planned by terrorists intending to use explosives disguised as energy drinks – resulted in worldwide bans on liquids, aerosols, and gels in quantities greater than 3.4 oz, we see now a more-focused approach. Instead of a total ban on all electronic devices, Secretary Kelly has outlined a step-wise plan to mitigate risk. He also emphasized the role of “evaluated intelligence,” both in terms of the specific threats and the strategies deemed effective in mitigating them.

Aviation security is complicated business. The traveling public expects perfection each time we board an airplane, yet the vast majority are quick to complain about long lines and the inconvenience of screening procedures. The holy grail would be the ability to determine with certainty those passengers who intend to harm an aircraft or its passengers. Until science, technology, and public policy allow us to do so, we are left to grapple with the reality of a determined, patient adversary more than happy to play on our frustrations.

We have been lucky in the almost-16 years since 9/11 jarred our country’s complacency about aviation security. With each day, we are a little less concerned: the men and women of DHS are hard at work trying to ensure our complacency is justified. Our counterparts in other parts of the world are not as lucky: their airports and airlines have not kept pace with those of the United States. The terrorists know and have exploited these vulnerabilities.

In challenging the international community to raise the collective bar for aviation security, Secretary Kelly is rightfully calling for a global solution to a global problem. Just as he did during his military service, Secretary Kelly is defending American lives in a proactive, intelligence-driven and risk-based way. Working together, the U.S. government, international partners, and the private sector can identify and mitigate risk and thwart our adversaries.

Dr. Bennet Waters is a Principal at The Chertoff Group in the Firm’s Security Services practice area, where he advises clients on a broad range of services, including homeland and border security management, global commerce and supply chain security, critical infrastructure protection, risk management, and strategic planning and implementation.

Call to Action
Published on Aug 28, 2017 (48:50)
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8lAT1o2Qj8
Michael Chertoff, Executive Chairman and Co-Founder, The Chertoff Group

Michael Chertoff (5:36)
Published on May 17, 2017
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awh_JOb1xEs

LAS VEGAS SHOOTING TIMELINE (Fake News)

https://youtu.be/oJbuWE_y6c4?rel=0


https://youtu.be/qfx8rLW3fLU?rel=0

Reports Of Possible Multiple Shooters In Las Vegas! (15:07)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTfDRx-mF2Q

AUDIO: VEGAS SURVIVOR TELLS SAVAGE SHE HEARD MULTIPLE SHOOTERS (08:33)
October 4, 2017
_https://michaelsavage.com/2017/10/04/audio-survivor-tells-savage-she-heard-multiple-shooters/

Las Vegas Strip shooter targeted aviation fuel tanks, source says (Video-Graphic 10:27)
Updated October 4, 2017 - 9:46 pm
_https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/the-strip/las-vegas-strip-shooter-targeted-aviation-fuel-tanks-source-says/
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A great write up by Niall and Joe of the situation so far:
https://www.sott.net/article/363662-The-Las-Vegas-Massacre-and-Occams-Razor
 
angelburst29 said:
According to this article, "“Typically after mass shootings, gun sales go up”. Sort of - defeats the cause - of staging mass shootings on the one hand and attempting to confiscate guns with the other?

There is no serious effort to confiscate guns. All that rancor comes from virtue-signaling libtard politicians like Hillary. She and those of her ilk could care less about the deaths of Americans from guns. They are just pandering to the liberal masses while at the same time their buddies in the MIC make a nice chunk of change in the uptick of gun sales and the corresponding rise in the value of shares in companies that make guns. Plus, pretty sure the guns used in this incident were illegal for civilians to own anyway. So calling for gun control is just idiotic and like I said, virtue signaling.
 
Siberia said:
Seppo Ilmarinen said:
First it was reported that Paddock's room was found because of smoke alarm that went off

(.....)

But now it's been reported that it was an unarmed security guard who found his room

(.....)

Yet in wikipedia the narrative goes like this

Plus there was also this Iraq vet who claims that he helped the police to locate the gunman. Very confusing indeed.

Iraq War Vet Gave Exact Location Of Vegas Shooter—Says Police Took Over An Hour To Respond
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/iraq-war-vet-police-delay-las-vegas-shooting/

The response time of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department during a recent mass shooting has been called into question by an Iraq War Veteran who claims he told police exactly where the suspect, Stephen Paddock, was firing on concertgoers, which was above his room in the Mandalay Bay casino.

Chris Bethel told reporters he was staying in a room just a few floors below Paddock and notified police to the mass murderer’s precise location. Now, Bethel is demanding an answer to the question as to why it took the LVMPD Swat team 1 hour and 12 minutes to penetrate Paddock’s room to neutralize the threat.

According to a timeline produced by the DailyMail, the first reports of gunfire at the Route 91 Harvest Festival came in at 10:08 p.m. Bethel claimed he called the police to let them know from which floor and room the shooter was firing from. He is now miffed with incredulity that it took police 72 minutes to enter the room, only to find that Paddock had reportedly taken his life.

“It felt like it took them too long to get over there, to take him out…to get him. And it’s actually eating me up inside,” Bethel said.

Recognizing the types of weapons being used, and the presence of explosives, Bethel described what he heard:

I could just hear gunshots, continuously. Just full automatic,” Bethel said. “There were explosions going off. It was like a bomb just went off man. And then there were more gunshots.”

Bethel said he called the front desk to tell them where the shooter was firing from but no one answered the phone. All the while, he could hear the shooter changing calibers and weapons as well.

Seconds are going by, minutes are going by, the rounds are continuously going,” Bethel said. “Changing weapons, changing calibers, you can hear the difference in the gunshots.”

He told reporters as he watched the police attempt to locate the shooter’s room, he noticed they were going in the wrong direction. Eventually, he was able to get someone on the phone to tell them, “He’s not over there. He’s over here!”

The first look into the officers’ view during the shooting was revealed after Body Camera footage was released on Tuesday, showing the sheer chaos and terror at the scene as they searched for the shooter.

According to the DailyMail’s timeline, LVMPD admitted they knew of Paddock’s exact location at 10:24 p.m., but they delayed in storming the room and taking out the suspect. It was not until 11:21 p.m. that the SWAT team used explosives to blow their way into the room, only to find Paddock reportedly deceased from self-inflicted gunshot wounds. Bethel said he is filled with regret about the fact that it took LVMPD over an hour to get inside the room.

“I feel like I didn’t do enough,” he told CBS DFW. “I feel like I couldn’t get a hold of somebody quick enough to let them know. And it felt like it took them too long to get over there, to take him out.”


The media has released photos of guns and ammo magazines laying around on the floor of the supposed “sniper’s nest” hotel room on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel in Las Vegas, but there’s something totally wrong with these pictures:

Five MORE things that don’t add up about the Las Vegas massacre… Where is all the expended brass?
https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-03-five-more-things-dont-add-up-las-vegas-massacre-expended-brass.html

* Again, maybe I’m just stupid or something, but if Paddock fired 3000 rounds, there should be 3000 brass casings all over the floor of the hotel suite. (I know, I’m invoking logic and reason, both of which are banned in modern society and the mainstream media, but bear with me for a moment for the sake of appeasing a really stupid person…)

* Given that Stephen Paddock was smoking through thousands of rounds of ammunition, he was generating not only very hot rifles but also extremely hot brass that would have left burn marks in any synthetic carpet. Where are all the burn marks in the carpet?

* I find it curious that ballistics details of the bullets that hit the pavement have not been released. All the evidence we need is all over the concert lot, yet the public will never be given access to details about that evidence.


The brother of Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock speaks for a second time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPZFN6VFFow (33:51 min.)
 
angelburst29 said:
“It felt like it took them too long to get over there, to take him out…to get him. And it’s actually eating me up inside,” Bethel said.

[...]

He told reporters as he watched the police attempt to locate the shooter’s room, he noticed they were going in the wrong direction. Eventually, he was able to get someone on the phone to tell them, “He’s not over there. He’s over here!”

[...]

According to the DailyMail’s timeline, LVMPD admitted they knew of Paddock’s exact location at 10:24 p.m., but they delayed in storming the room and taking out the suspect. It was not until 11:21 p.m. that the SWAT team used explosives to blow their way into the room, only to find Paddock reportedly deceased from self-inflicted gunshot wounds. Bethel said he is filled with regret about the fact that it took LVMPD over an hour to get inside the room.

Yep, they sure took their merry time. 1 hour between the end of shooting from the Mandalay and breaking that door in.
 
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