The Codex Alimentarius -- the Beginning of the End?

nicklebleu said:
Just a quick reply to 3D Resident:

"Statistically insignificant" refers to the P-value, comparing two groups of (hopefully well matched) samples. While one group may have more "positives" as the other group, this may be down to chance, hence the term "higher, but statistically insignificant". This is a genuine finding, as it simply says that "treatment A" is equivalent to "treatment B".

This may also be influenced by sample size (if chosen too small), but this has nothing to do with the fact that the finding is "statistically insignificant". An example: If you take a dice and you throw numbers, "3" and "6" will each show up 1/6th of the time. The difference in "3" and "6" is therefore "statistically insignificant", and this unrelated to sample size, if it is adequate.

Sample size is determined by "power", which in turn is determined from a pilot study. Usually the power of a study is chosen as 80% chance that a significant difference between A and B can be found (the "significant difference" is then often quite arbitrarily set to what "the experts" think is significant ...)

Just to correct the two concepts of P-value and power of statistical methods ...

Although it's been 5 months, I only just noticed your reply!

I agree with most of what you've said. What I said is more or less what you have said, except I put it into layman's terms so that most people could understand it better, such as the journalists who report statistics so very often. While it may be a genuine finding that one group had more positives than another group, it is still very bad journalism to report such a finding if it's statistically insignificant. Since the "power of a test" and sample size are intimately related, it is usually the case that the smaller the sample size, the more likely a test will yield results that are statistically insignificant, for any given level of confidence which is decided beforehand as the "cut-off" point.
 
I was about to make this post saying to be wary of the original video, as I have watched a different one on the same subject presented by Ian R Crane:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=5800206429960925518&ei=G9kmStmhK56s2wLj7527CQ&q=codex+alimentarius&hl=en&client=firefox-a
In which he mentions Rima Laibow and Albert Stubblebine (1hr 20mins in) as being possible disinfo (being a nuisance at a codex meeting, controlled opposition)

That being said I found Ians website _http://www.ianrcrane.co.uk and on his links page one of them is for Monatomic gold, he has also had an interview on Red Ice Creations, which is annoying because the video above is very interesting and I would recommend watching it anyway if you have the spare time.
 
Codex Threatens Health of Billions

Thursday, July 30, 2009 by: Barbara Minton, Natural Health Editor

(NaturalNews) Your right to eat healthy food and use supplements of your choice is rapidly vanishing, but every effort has been made to keep you in the dark about the coming nutricide. Codex Alimentarius is scheduled for full global implementation on December 31, 2009, and not a word has been spoken in main stream media about this threat to humanity. Yet, according to the projections based on figures from the World Health Organization (WHO) and the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), a minimum of 3 billion people will die from the Codex mandated vitamin and mineral guideline alone.

Former Nazi is father of contemporary Codex

Codex is the enemy of everyone except those who will profit from it. Codex has an association with those who committed crimes during the Nazi regime. At the end of World War II, the Nuremberg tribunal judged Nazis who had committed horrendous crimes against humanity and sentenced them to prison terms. One of those found guilty was the president of the megalithic corporation I.G. Farben, Hermann Schmitz. His company was the largest chemical manufacturing enterprise in the world, and had extraordinary political and economic power and influence with the Hitlerian Nazi state. Farben produced the gas used in the Nazi gas chambers, and the steel for the railroads built to transport people to their deaths.

While serving his prison term, Schmitz looked for an alternative to brute force for controlling people and realized that people could be controlled through their food supply. When he got out of prison, he went to his friends at the United Nations (UN) and laid out a plan to take over the control of food worldwide. A trade commission called Codex Alimentarius (Latin for food code) was re-created under the guise of it being a consumer protection commission. But Codex was never in the business of protecting people. It has always been about money and profits at the expense of people.

In 1962, the timetable was set for Codex to be fully implemented on a global level by December 31, 2009. Under Codex, committees were established to create guidelines on such topics as fish and fisheries, fats and oils, fruits and vegetables, ground nuts, nutrition, food for specialized uses, and vitamins and minerals. There were 27 committees in all, creating a huge bureaucracy. Under Codex there are over 4,000 guidelines and regulations on everything that can be put into your mouth with the exception of pharmaceuticals which are not regulated by Codex.

Codex is a weapon being used to reduce the level of nutrition worldwide

Codex is an industry dominated regulation setting organization, and as such has no legal standing. Participation in Codex is said to be voluntary. But Codex has risen to the level of de facto legal standing because Codex is administered by the WHO and FAO. They fund it and run it at the request of the UN. Since the WHO and FAO are supposed to be about health, there is conflict of interest. The committees of Codex work up guidelines, rules and regulations, and present them to a Codex commission for ratification. Once they are ratified and approved by consensus, they become mandatory standards for any country that is a member of the WHO.

Codex was accepted when the WTO was formed in 1994 as a means of harmonizing food standards globally for easy trade between countries. As a result, countries must harmonize with Codex if they want to have any standing in a trade dispute. When disputes arise and countries are pulled in to WTO, the one that is Codex compliant automatically wins, regardless of the merits of its case.

Codex has become a weapon to make every nation scurry to become compliant to its mandated decline in nutritional standards. Compliance in the U.S. will mark the end of its consumer protection laws. Codex will not serve consumers. Codex will serve the interests of the medical, pharmaceutical, biotechnology, chemical, and big agricultural industries.

Under Codex, nutrients are classified as poisons

The Dietary Substances Health and Education Act (DSHEA), was signed into law in 1994 for the purpose of ensuring that safe and appropriately labeled products would remain available to those who wanted to use them. In the findings associated with this law, Congress stated that there may be a positive relationship between sound dietary practice and good health, and a connection between dietary supplement use, reduced health-care expenses, and disease prevention. Under DSHEA, nutrients and herbs are classified as food. There is no upper limit set, and access is freely given. Americans are allowed to have any nutrients they want, because under English common law, anything that is not expressly forbidden is permitted.

Codex, on the other hand, is based on Napoleonic law and is much more restrictive. In 1994, the same year DSHEA was signed, Codex had nutrients declared to be toxic and poisonous. And as poisons, they claimed people must be protected from them through the use of toxicology and risk assessment, under which scientists test small doses on animals until they are able to discern an impact. They then take the first sign of the most minimal impact and divide this amount by 100 to establish a safety margin required from these poisons. This means that the largest dose of any nutrient allowed under Codex is 1/100th of the amount shown to produce the first discernable impact.

Nutrients allowed under Codex are limited to those on the positive list, expected to contain only 18 nutrients, one of them being fluoride. Although fluoride has no biological benefit whatsoever, it does make people complacent.

The Codex proponents now have several bills before Congress designed to overturn and get rid of DSHEA. Once this is accomplished, the U.S. will have been harmonized with the vitamin and mineral guidelines of codex. High potency, therapeutically effective, significant nutrients will then be illegal in the way that heroin is illegal. They will not even be available by prescription.

Codex supports toxic food additives, pesticides and GM foods

Codex poses a significant threat to the food supply, according to Dr. Robert Verkerk, founder and director of the Alliance for Natural Health. About 300 dangerous food additives that are mainly synthetic will be allowed under Codex, including aspartame, BHA, BHT, potassium bromate, tartrazine, and more. Dr. Verkerk is particularly concerned that no consideration has been given to potential risks associated with long-term exposure to mixtures of additives.

Codex sets limits for the dangerous industrial chemicals that can be used in food, but they are incredibly high, and the list of chemicals that can be used is long. In 2001, 176 countries including the U.S. got together and decided that 12 highly toxic organic chemicals, known as persistent organic pollutants (POPS), were so bad that they had to be banned. There are many more than 12 toxic chemicals used on food, but these 12 were unanimously declared to be the worst. Of these, 9 are pesticides.

Under Codex, 7 of the 9 forbidden POPS will again be allowed in the production of food. All together, Codex allows over 3,275 different pesticides, including those that are suspected carcinogens or endocrine disrupters. There is no consideration of the long-term effects of exposure to mixtures of pesticide residues in food.

Organic food governance will be dumbed down to suit the interests of large food producers. Various synthetic chemical additives and processing aids will be allowed, and food labeled as organic may be irradiated. Labeling will permit the use of hidden, non-organic ingredients.

Monsanto, a member of Codex, will benefit greatly as production of genetically modified (GM) foods are stepped up and more GM plants are given the green light. Terminator seeds will be approved for international trade. GM food animals will also be on the way.

Under Codex, every dairy animal can be treated with growth hormone, and all animals in the food chain will be treated with sub-clinical levels of antibiotics. Codex will lead to the required irradiation of all foods with the exception of those grown locally and sold raw.

Codex is food regulations that are in fact the legalization of mandated toxicity and under-nutrition. Of the 3 billion people initially expected to die as the result of the Codex vitamin and mineral guidelines, 2 billion of them will die from the preventable diseases that result from under-nutrition, such as cancer, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and many others. Those who will live will be the wealthy elites who are able to somehow provide themselves with sources of clean food and other nutrients.

Codex is legalized genocide

Dr. Gregory Damato, Ph.D., writing for Natural News, has characterized Codex as "population control for money". He sees Codex as run by the U.S. and controlled by the big pharmaceutical corporations and the likes of Monsanto with the purpose of reducing the population of the world to a level considered sustainable by those promulgating the New World Order. This would mean a reduction of approximately 93 percent of the current world population.

Once Codex standards are adopted there will be no turning back. When Codex compliance is instigated in any area, as long as the country remains a member of the WTO, those standards cannot be repealed, or altered in any way.

The time for modifying Codex guidelines is rapidly disappearing

Some hope remains. Over the years, the WTO has accepted Codex standards as presumptive evidence of the rules of trade between countries. However, several times in history, the WTO has refused to make Codex the single and only standard to be used in trade disputes. Under Codex`s own statutes, their guidelines are claimed to be "advisory", and nations are able to set up their own guidelines as long as they are more restrictive than those of Codex.

Since compliance with Codex standards is simply presumptive evidence, and not finally determinative, a nation can opt out of the guidelines in an effort to protect its traditional foods and remedies. The Codex two step process is a legal strategy developed to help nations wanting to do this. Under step one, the country develops its own food and health guidelines that may be at variance with Codex guidelines. For example, it may be much stricter on the issues of toxins in the food supply or on the issue of genetically modified foods. It may require, for example, that companies using GM ingredients be required to indicate them on food labels. In countries that refuse to use GM foods, this can be indicated on their label too, so that people can make informed choices. The second step is to adopt a national law that implements those guidelines on a sound scientific basis.

Normally, in a trade dispute before the WTO, the country that has adopted Codex guidelines will be the winner of that dispute based on those guidelines being presumptive evidence. However, when countries have gone through the two step process to create their own guidelines, there is no such presumption, and the WTO will look at the science behind the guidelines.

In the U.S. the door is open to Codex

In 1995, the FDA issued a policy statement saying that international standards such as Codex would supersede U.S. laws governing all food. Under the Central American Free Trade Agreement, which is illegal under current U.S. law, but is legal under international law, the U.S. is required to conform to Codex as it stands on December 31, 2009, unless it creates its own guidelines and gets them approved under the two step process. Given current government sentiment, this seems unlikely. Besides, as guidelines are one-by-one chiseled into standards, time is running out.

For more information:

http://www.naturalnews.com/024128_C...

I wasn't sure whether to post this here or under Suggest an article for SOTT. It's not saying anything that hasn't already been stated, I just thought that since the date is fast approaching it was well worth bringing up again...
 
Diplodocus said:
That being said I found Ians website _http://www.ianrcrane.co.uk and on his links page one of them is for Monatomic gold, he has also had an interview on Red Ice Creations, which is annoying because the video above is very interesting and I would recommend watching it anyway if you have the spare time.

Monoatomic gold is a placebo. Do not be fooled! It is a huge waste of money. There is actually something far greater than this and considerably less expensive. The Alkahest is real. An updated book of how to make it will be available for free very soon, "the universal medicine" by Nicholas Collette. You will be able to make it in one weekend for the cost of the lab glass. Also check Primum Ens Mellisa, if made right you will lose you hair teeth and nails but they will grow back much stronger and healthier.

I didn't see anyone mention the part where the Codex will force manufacturers to IRRADIATE your food. Thus killing the astral energies within it.
 
goatz said:
Also check Primum Ens Mellisa, if made right you will lose you hair teeth and nails but they will grow back much stronger and healthier.

yikes! :O sounds like a real wonder drug... goatz, would you mind providing some links regarding this? where did you hear about it and why would this in any way be considered a reasonable thing to do to oneself?

goatz said:
I didn't see anyone mention the part where the Codex will force manufacturers to IRRADIATE your food. Thus killing the astral energies within it.

fwiw, this is already being done... _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_irradiation

also, it's customary for new members to make a short introductory post - nothing fancy - just how you came to find the forum and a little about yourself. you can make the post in this board: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?board=39.0
 
goatz said:
Monoatomic gold is a placebo. Do not be fooled! It is a huge waste of money. There is actually something far greater than this and considerably less expensive. The Alkahest is real. An updated book of how to make it will be available for free very soon, "the universal medicine" by Nicholas Collette. You will be able to make it in one weekend for the cost of the lab glass. Also check Primum Ens Mellisa, if made right you will lose you hair teeth and nails but they will grow back much stronger and healthier.

I didn't see anyone mention the part where the Codex will force manufacturers to IRRADIATE your food. Thus killing the astral energies within it.

Have-you read the thread about monoatomic gold? If not, have a look at it because it does really qualify for a placebo.
 
JonnyRadar said:
yikes! :O sounds like a real wonder drug... goatz, would you mind providing some links regarding this? where did you hear about it and why would this in any way be considered a reasonable thing to do to oneself?

You will not understand the impact of such a grandiose undertaking of the Primum Ens until you read. If you want to know than search it out. hint: Alchemy: Tried in fire, is a good place to start. Heals almost all second only to the Alkahest and surprisingly easy to make, takes 40days mostly hands off.

Same with the true Alkahest, not MA gold false hope. Do not become delusionary by looking to buy a magic potion. No one sells the Alkahest EVER! It is made and then given. Truly brings you to a higher self. I am almost complete. I don't have the money for the lab glass so I am doing it the long way. Cures everything, AIDS paralysis, will not grow back limbs though. It is a precursor to the Philosophers stone. It will take many weeks of study just to grasp it. It is not for the faint of heart. It will cleans the pineal gland to super state.
 
Codex Alimentarius, along with the United Nation's Agenda 21, as far as I can tell, are both aimed at human depopulation and control. Researching the subject, it's really brought to light the importance of understanding the meanings behind the words we use, or more accurately, the consequences of agreeing with undefined terms.

What does UNESCO and Education for Sustainable Development have to contribute to Agenda 21 when it comes to sustainability?

[quote author=http://www.esdtoolkit.org/discussion/default.htm]
Education is an essential tool for achieving sustainability.(<---Keep this in mind for a moment) People around the world recognize that current economic development trends are not sustainable and that public awareness, education, and training are key to moving society toward sustainability. Beyond that, there is little agreement. People argue about the meaning of sustainable development and whether or not it is attainable. They have different visions of what sustainable societies will look like and how they will function. These same people wonder why educators have not moved more quickly to develop education for sustainability (EfS) programs. The lack of agreement and definition have stymied efforts to move education for sustainable development (ESD) forward.

It is curious to note that while we have difficulty envisioning a sustainable world, we have no difficulty identifying what is unsustainable in our societies. We can rapidly create a laundry list of problems - inefficient use of energy, lack of water conservation, increased pollution, abuses of human rights(<---contradictory, no?), overuse of personal transportation, consumerism, etc. But we should not chide ourselves because we lack a clear definition of sustainability.(<---Excuse me? Oh, oh, that's right, we shouldn't question our ignorance) Indeed, many truly great concepts of the human world - among them democracy and justice - are hard to define and have multiple expressions in cultures around the world.[/quote]


Education: Promise and Paradox


Two of the major issues in the international dialog on sustainability are population and resource consumption. Increases in population and resource use are thought to jeopardize a sustainable future, and education is linked both to fertility rate and resource consumption. Educating females reduces fertility rates and therefore population growth. By reducing fertility rates and the threat of overpopulation a country also facilitates progress toward sustainability. The opposite is true for the relationship between education and resource use. Generally, more highly educated people, who have higher incomes, consume more resources than poorly educated people, who tend to have lower incomes. In this case, more education increases the threat to sustainability.
(<---Refer to first sentence in quote above)
Unfortunately, the most educated nations leave the deepest ecological footprints, meaning they have the highest per-capita rates of consumption. This consumption drives resource extraction and manufacturing around the world. The figures from the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) Statistical Yearbook and World Education Report, for example, show that in the United States more than 80 percent of the population has some post-secondary education, and about 25 percent of the population has a four-year degree from a university. Statistics also show that per-capita energy use and waste generation in the United States are nearly the highest in the world. In the case of the United States, more education has not led to sustainability. Clearly, simply educating citizenry to higher levels is not sufficient for creating sustainable societies. The challenge is to raise the education levels without creating an ever-growing demand for resources and consumer goods and the accompanying production of pollutants. Meeting this challenge depends on reorienting curriculums to address the need for more-sustainable production and consumption patterns.

Every nation will need to reexamine curriculum at all levels (i.e., pre-school to professional education). While it is evident that it is difficult to teach environmental literacy, economics literacy, or civics without basic literacy, it is also evident that simply increasing basic literacy, as it is currently taught in most countries, will not support a sustainable society.


Not only reform in curriculum, but reform in private property. Check out Wildlands Project, which has since changed it's title to Wildlands Network and specifically the implementation of wildlife corridors.

Some of this topic has been research by others who have put together a youtube video you can find here. The video ends on a squirrly note, but this is what I've found thus far for whatever it's worth.
 
Should my last post have been a separate topic? A little unsure, so was curious from a moderator's/longtime forum members point of few if this was an inappropriate placement? While referencing along these subjects, many of these groups and organizations seemed to come up in the same articles. :/
 
goatz said:
You will not understand the impact of such a grandiose undertaking of the Primum Ens until you read. If you want to know than search it out. hint: Alchemy: Tried in fire, is a good place to start. Heals almost all second only to the Alkahest and surprisingly easy to make, takes 40days mostly hands off.

Same with the true Alkahest, not MA gold false hope. Do not become delusionary by looking to buy a magic potion. No one sells the Alkahest EVER! It is made and then given. Truly brings you to a higher self. I am almost complete. I don't have the money for the lab glass so I am doing it the long way. Cures everything, AIDS paralysis, will not grow back limbs though. It is a precursor to the Philosophers stone. It will take many weeks of study just to grasp it. It is not for the faint of heart. It will cleans the pineal gland to super state.

goatz, there seems to me an important contradiction in what you write above and your introductory post where you are asking for help because you can't feel anymore.

If you were truly so close to being united with your higher self, you would not be emotionless. Quite the contrary. Your heart would be more and more open. Therefore, your recommendation for Alkahest looks to me as questionable. It is not doing what you claim it does for you. :(

You are new here and do not yet understand how the forum works, or the exact nature of the Work we do. It is considered part of external consideration for people who bring information such as you have in several health threads to post the necessary references when they make claims about a certain product. We do not accept anything at face value. If you have something worthwhile, then it is important to share what you know and how you know it so that others have as much information as possible to evaluate the merits.

We are working together towards an objective understanding of reality, or as close as we can get given our limits and programmes. To achieve this, everyone needs to contribute. Making broad statements that are unsubstantiated doesn't work.
 
I just finished watching an excellent YouTube interview with Dr. Rima Laibow regarding the subject of Codex Alimentarius and the progress that's being made in legally challenging and overturning this insidious imposition on the world's population. I came away from this experience with a renewed sense of hope in the power of enlightened and awake individuals and groups to undermine what often seem to be bleak inevitabilities.

_http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=FREEDOMLINK+EXCLUSIVE+DR+LAIBOW+ON+CODEX+ALIMENTARIUS+Part+1+of+14&search_type=&aq=f
 
Elizabeth, I highly recommend that you read this thread from the very beginning. Especially page 2. There is a lot of information that should be taken into consideration. While the Codex Alimentarius should be taken quite seriously, there are many questions about Dr. Laidbow.

As you know ... this forum seeks out as much information as possible so that we can become more objective and balanced in our analysis of such things.

The first time I saw that video, I was appalled! (still am.... didn't even know the codex existed before I saw it a couple years ago, and I work in the vitamin and supplements industry!) But there is more than meets the eye. And the more you read up on the cointelpro section of this sight, the more you will appreciate the disservice done by Dr. Laidbow.

Meanwhile.... I hope you will indeed read through the entirety of this thread. It's a real eye opener.
 
Incidentally, the video I referred to is a recent one, and not the one referenced earlier in the thread.

Indeed! I just noticed that. Next time I have an opportunity, I will check it out. But since it is still fresh in your mind... if you have time ... after you have read through this thread, perhaps you can post your impressions about this new video from a different perspective and keep the conversation / debate going as to whether she is part of a disinformation campaign or if you think there is some genuine added value to anything new she is revealing.

Thanks for bringing the latest poop to the group. :cool:
 
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