The Cosmic Instruction Manual: A text and a web site I really enjoyed

There is clear lack of external consideration and a carefree attitude in your posts, Stéphane. The last example being to finish your last post with a sentence written in a very small size so as to make it unreadable to others (I edited your post and changed the size of this sentence). So why write this when you know nobody will be able to read it?
It seems to me you write things not to communicate and share but to please yourself and comfort yourself in your illusion, using attempts at humour and a carefree attitude as a sort of "shield". I could be off, of course.
 
StephaneR said:
I will comply anyway, keep reading and come back when done...

I am not trying to be a smart ass here. I gave my word to Anart and I will stay true to it. I will come back to this thread when I am done. If I am still allowed. It could take a few weeks so do not hold your breath over it. ;)

In the mean time, here is something I am pondering over lately:

The Law of Honesty: Recognizing, accepting and expressing our authentic interior reality lies at the heart of honesty. Only when we are honest with ourselves can we speak or act honestly with anyone else. In the sense of integrity, honesty entails acting in line with higher laws despite negative impulses to the contrary. We don't need to be punished for breaking spiritual law or higher laws. The act itself is the punishment and sets into motion subtle forces whose natural consequences we cannot escape any more than we are able to escape the force of gravity. When we let fear stop us from expressing our true feelings and needs, we are being dishonest with ourselves and it costs us a sense of energy and spirit.

I am studying a text about 105 Universal Laws. I would be happy to share with anybody interested. It is a .doc file with no copyrights. No obligation. Just a sincere offering of peace.

I am out for good now.
 
[quote author=StephaneR]I am out for good now.[/quote]
Should we understand from this phrase that you recognize what you did before was not good?
 
StephaneR said:
I am studying a text about 105 Universal Laws. I would be happy to share with anybody interested. It is a .doc file with no copyrights. No obligation. Just a sincere offering of peace.

Why don’t you first try to listen to the people of this forum?
You will not divert the attention of this forum to your own purposes and interests.
 
Puck said:
StephaneR said:
Unfortunately, Stephane, you appear to either have some self-importance programs running

Haven't we all?
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You also dodged a few of her questions, which was rude. Specifically it would have helped if you had said it was fictional entertainment. Instead of replying with

StephaneR said:
What is reality? Do you know for a fact what is the taste of your favorite fruit?

Which has nothing to do with whether or not the links are fiction.

There is actually more to the issue of inability to answer a direct question simply and fully: it is evidence of a strong STS tendency. If you recall that STO is defined as one who gives ALL to those who ask, one who cannot even give what is asked, when it is a simple answer to a simple question, reveals their tendency, if not their orientation.
 
Ana said:
StephaneR said:
I am studying a text about 105 Universal Laws. I would be happy to share with anybody interested. It is a .doc file with no copyrights. No obligation. Just a sincere offering of peace.

Why don’t you first try to listen to the people of this forum?
You will not divert the attention of this forum to your own purposes and interests.

I find it interesting that among his quotes on facebook, that Stephane shared here, is quoted the following:

He who establishes his argument by noise and command, shows that his reason is weak. - Michel de Montaigne

That sums pretty well what other forum members are noticing about his posts, don't your think? Except Stephane seems to find that somehow entertaining instead of taking it seriously from people who care. Or perhaps he really doesn't understand but wants to? Not so obvious in his replies, I would say. But it's possible.



Surrendering is winning
- Stephane Raymond

(Note that he even quoted himself, unless he is talking about a different Stephane Raymond...)

This quote, in my humble opinion, illustrates pretty well his lasts posts, although he may of course not have intended it to do so, or even to mean this: Giving the appearance of "surrendering" in order to feel and hint to others that he's winning. If that's anything close to reality, then Stephane hasn't understood what it is to be in this forum, where there are no battles against others but a lot against one's falseness. If so, does he want to learn, or is his cup too full? I don't know. :/
 
Now please guys, I beg of you to stop adding more stuff over this non issue. Please, do not take this as an insult, it is not intended as one. When I am done reading all I said I would read I will come back and address everything you all pointed out. Hopefully with the earned right to quote the C's to illustrate my points and answers all questions asked. We will never get out of this if more remarks keep adding up. Of course everyone has his/her freewill and I am not in a position to stop anybody from doing so. I simply ask.

One thing I personally observed is that STS have a tendency to point fingers at others and attack. When on the other hand STO ask more questions than anything else without making everything personal and without making a big fuss about not getting an immediate answer. Did I get that wrong? It is possible.

As for that quote in particular:

Ailén said:
Surrendering is winning
- Stephane Raymond

I would see the right question to be: Surrendering what? To which I would answer: Every personal programs and individual can identify within oneself until there is no more. A task of many lifetimes in my humble opinion.


Now can we all take a deep breath and turn to more important issues? Just a suggestion.
 
StephaneR said:
The Law of Honesty: Recognizing, accepting and expressing our authentic interior reality lies at the heart of honesty. Only when we are honest with ourselves can we speak or act honestly with anyone else. In the sense of integrity, honesty entails acting in line with higher laws despite negative impulses to the contrary. We don't need to be punished for breaking spiritual law or higher laws. The act itself is the punishment and sets into motion subtle forces whose natural consequences we cannot escape any more than we are able to escape the force of gravity. When we let fear stop us from expressing our true feelings and needs, we are being dishonest with ourselves and it costs us a sense of energy and spirit.
The one place new-age sometimes includes bits of truth is in their "theory" and some general principles (although that too is mixed with many distortions and lies). They talk about being honest, waking up, having good will towards all, learning the truth, being critical of mainstream news and so on. All great in theory. But it is in practice that they fail miserably to uphold any of their theoretical precepts. They talk the talk (sometimes) but almost never walk the walk, despite claiming that they are doing exactly that.

You can talk about studying honesty but why not try applying it to yourself and to others? What is honest about blindly accepting some new-age claim of being some "star seed" with some mission and then in a smug and elusive manner insinuating that questioning you means the questioner is ignorant and close-minded? What is honest about using loaded back-handed insults using tiny fonts?

Every reply you made for for some reason reads like a rude back-handed insult, avoiding the questions while simultaneously and quite smugly trying to "educate" the questioner about how superior you are and how blind they are, just for questioning you. It's a pretty unoriginal way to try to shift focus instead of just answering some simple questions. That's just what I saw in what you wrote, I may be off, but I don't think it would be by much. A lot of problems with new age are addressed in the Wave and I hope you enjoy reading it.

One thing I personally observed is that STS have a tendency to point fingers at others and attack. When on the other hand STO ask more questions than anything else without making everything personal and without making a big fuss about not getting an immediate answer. Did I get that wrong? It is possible.
Yes, you got it wrong. Not only that, but this is just another in the long line of disingenuous and back-handed accusations in your responses in this thread - this time accusing those who critically questioned you and pointed out your programs as "attacking" you and implying that they are STS for doing so. Critical questioning and analysis has nothing to do with "attacking" even if your predator subjectively interprets it as such. Reading the Wave should go a long way to help you understand the critical difference, and that critical analysis is very much an "STO" thing to do.

Also, there is a difference between not giving an immediate answer and using sly, evasive, and underhanded methods to twist what has been said and incorrectly accuse the questioner of being ignorant and attempt to shift focus back onto the questioner instead.
 
StephaneR said:
When I am done reading all I said I would read I will come back and address everything you all pointed out. Hopefully with the earned right to quote the C's to illustrate my points and answers all questions asked.

May I suggest you read with an open mind rather than with a possible mission to find stuff to defend point of view. I could be misreading you, but your statement appears as though you’ve already made your mind up that you are correct and everyone else is mistaken.
 
Peam said:
May I suggest you read with an open mind rather than with a possible mission to find stuff to defend point of view.

Always and in all ways. Thank you for pointing that out. I have nothing to "defend". All I want is to illustrate what I apparently mis-illustrated until now. I am perfectly fine with the idea of possibly being completely wrong and also with the idea of possibly being completely right. And with everything in between.

Something just came to mind: The C's say to expect attacks but not anticipate. I understand this in the sense that STS have no choice but to attack (consciously and/or unconsciously) so it is bound to happen. Could it be right the other way around? In the sense that STO have no choice but to give all when asked (also consciously and/or unconsciously) and to expect but not anticipate? In other words, the answer or feed back is bound to come back but not necessarily in the form anticipated? Just a thought.

Ok, back to my reading...
 
Please refrain from answering Stephane's questions at this time, since he is obviously being distracted by further input on this thread and is unable to refrain from responding at the present time. He should be allowed to have a chance to keep his word - that he would refrain from further posting until after having read the Wave in its entirety - and continuing to give feedback to him seems to be making that impossible for him.

So - until he returns, and has a wider information base from which to speak, let's suspend this conversation.
 
StephaneR said:
Something just came to mind: The C's say to expect attacks but not anticipate. I understand this in the sense that STS have no choice but to attack (consciously and/or unconsciously) so it is bound to happen.

I think it means be aware that attacks can exist and learn how to spot them, but don’t anticipate that you are definitely going to be attacked. Everyone on the planet is STS and everyone of us don’t all go around attacking everyone else, we have a choice.

Could it be right the other way around? In the sense that STO have no choice but to give all when asked (also consciously and/or unconsciously) and to expect but not anticipate?

There’s always a choice I think, and to expect seems to be the same as to anticipate.

In other words, the answer or feed back is bound to come back but not necessarily in the form anticipated? Just a thought.

Feedback isn’t bound to come back, but it’s very likely to come back on this forum because that’s the whole point of this forum and the work, and what we all agreed to when joining.
When you said in a previous post that you didn't ask to have your possible programs pointed out, well, isn't that one of the reasons for joining?

edit: sorry, I posted this before seeing Anarts request. Please ignore it for now.
 
Please refrain from answering Stephane's questions at this time, since he is obviously being distracted by further input on this thread and is unable to refrain from responding at the present time. He should be allowed to have a chance to keep his word - that he would refrain from further posting until after having read the Wave in its entirety - and continuing to give feedback to him seems to be making that impossible for him.

So - until he returns, and has a wider information base from which to speak, let's suspend this conversation.
 
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