The end of the road for Macron? French political crisis
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Montpellier :
Toulouse:
Bordeaux:
Strasbourg:
Lyon:
Basically every big city. And I think the estimated 100,000 people was a very low estimate.
This channel has been collecting all the scenes of police violence. Not just a couple, unfortunately:
Toulouse:
Bordeaux:
Strasbourg:
Lyon:
Basically every big city. And I think the estimated 100,000 people was a very low estimate.
This channel has been collecting all the scenes of police violence. Not just a couple, unfortunately:
From a brief review, much seen was from 2023.
Regardless, it is a powder keg, along with the Antifa types and agent provocateurs (who would pull people behind police lines and brutalize them). Then there were police with Lance de Templier patches on their uniforms.
It was nice to see the big crowds together peacefully in unison.
Even the dogs are outfitted for raw violence:
6 police to take down a defenseless man, with one to stand watch.
From a quick listen to this channel which I tend to like a lot,
These are some of the main points, it seems:
-The protests were too disorganized to make any impact.
- A bunch of agents provocateurs, antifa-types, etc. were brought in, and that's what was most shown by the MSM. Result: most people are either afraid to protest, or they think that protesters are violent (while the peaceful protests were hardly shown.)
- The government had approximately 1 cop (between normal police, gendarmes and centaures), for every 2 protesters.
So, not much at all happened. It remains to be seen whether the 18th will prove to be any different.
Amidst that chaos, the Prime Minister assumed his new powers in a short (15 minute) ceremony.
The general consensus seems to be, from what I understand, that:
- Macron is doing the usual, naming another buddy. The difference being this time that LeCornu is VERY eager to have a "war". The situation may be ripe for declaring a State of Emergency, and use Article 16 to give Macron full powers (even if short-lived). OR, if the main parties get together, Macron would have to dissolve the National Assembly and make Bardella (far-right) the new Prime Minister. But that hasn't happened so far, so...
- The right and left are super divided. The left is saying that Macron must leave no matter what (impeachment), and the far-right (with the most seats in the National Assembly) is saying that, although they don't have much hope, they will listen to what LeCornu has to propose first, and they are not going to vote for Macron's impeachment, at least not now. If they don't, then basically him leaving office is a dream.
- They all seem to agree on one thing though: that the will of the French people is being violated en masse. Will that make any difference? No idea.
FWIW! Maybe other French speakers have better data.
These are some of the main points, it seems:
-The protests were too disorganized to make any impact.
- A bunch of agents provocateurs, antifa-types, etc. were brought in, and that's what was most shown by the MSM. Result: most people are either afraid to protest, or they think that protesters are violent (while the peaceful protests were hardly shown.)
- The government had approximately 1 cop (between normal police, gendarmes and centaures), for every 2 protesters.
So, not much at all happened. It remains to be seen whether the 18th will prove to be any different.
Amidst that chaos, the Prime Minister assumed his new powers in a short (15 minute) ceremony.
The general consensus seems to be, from what I understand, that:
- Macron is doing the usual, naming another buddy. The difference being this time that LeCornu is VERY eager to have a "war". The situation may be ripe for declaring a State of Emergency, and use Article 16 to give Macron full powers (even if short-lived). OR, if the main parties get together, Macron would have to dissolve the National Assembly and make Bardella (far-right) the new Prime Minister. But that hasn't happened so far, so...
- The right and left are super divided. The left is saying that Macron must leave no matter what (impeachment), and the far-right (with the most seats in the National Assembly) is saying that, although they don't have much hope, they will listen to what LeCornu has to propose first, and they are not going to vote for Macron's impeachment, at least not now. If they don't, then basically him leaving office is a dream.
- They all seem to agree on one thing though: that the will of the French people is being violated en masse. Will that make any difference? No idea.
FWIW! Maybe other French speakers have better data.
More than 100 French lawmakers have signed a proposal to remove Macron from the office after French National Assembly Deputy Mathilde Panot issued an ultimatum be forced to the French President, saying that he has two options - either to resign or be impeached.
The loony left in all its glory! The even spikier horn of the dilemma.
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