The end of the road for Macron? French political crisis
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Montpellier :
Toulouse:
Bordeaux:
Strasbourg:
Lyon:
Basically every big city. And I think the estimated 100,000 people was a very low estimate.
This channel has been collecting all the scenes of police violence. Not just a couple, unfortunately:
Toulouse:
Bordeaux:
Strasbourg:
Lyon:
Basically every big city. And I think the estimated 100,000 people was a very low estimate.
This channel has been collecting all the scenes of police violence. Not just a couple, unfortunately:
From a brief review, much seen was from 2023.
Regardless, it is a powder keg, along with the Antifa types and agent provocateurs (who would pull people behind police lines and brutalize them). Then there were police with Lance de Templier patches on their uniforms.
It was nice to see the big crowds together peacefully in unison.
Even the dogs are outfitted for raw violence:
6 police to take down a defenseless man, with one to stand watch.
From a quick listen to this channel which I tend to like a lot,
These are some of the main points, it seems:
-The protests were too disorganized to make any impact.
- A bunch of agents provocateurs, antifa-types, etc. were brought in, and that's what was most shown by the MSM. Result: most people are either afraid to protest, or they think that protesters are violent (while the peaceful protests were hardly shown.)
- The government had approximately 1 cop (between normal police, gendarmes and centaures), for every 2 protesters.
So, not much at all happened. It remains to be seen whether the 18th will prove to be any different.
Amidst that chaos, the Prime Minister assumed his new powers in a short (15 minute) ceremony.
The general consensus seems to be, from what I understand, that:
- Macron is doing the usual, naming another buddy. The difference being this time that LeCornu is VERY eager to have a "war". The situation may be ripe for declaring a State of Emergency, and use Article 16 to give Macron full powers (even if short-lived). OR, if the main parties get together, Macron would have to dissolve the National Assembly and make Bardella (far-right) the new Prime Minister. But that hasn't happened so far, so...
- The right and left are super divided. The left is saying that Macron must leave no matter what (impeachment), and the far-right (with the most seats in the National Assembly) is saying that, although they don't have much hope, they will listen to what LeCornu has to propose first, and they are not going to vote for Macron's impeachment, at least not now. If they don't, then basically him leaving office is a dream.
- They all seem to agree on one thing though: that the will of the French people is being violated en masse. Will that make any difference? No idea.
FWIW! Maybe other French speakers have better data.
These are some of the main points, it seems:
-The protests were too disorganized to make any impact.
- A bunch of agents provocateurs, antifa-types, etc. were brought in, and that's what was most shown by the MSM. Result: most people are either afraid to protest, or they think that protesters are violent (while the peaceful protests were hardly shown.)
- The government had approximately 1 cop (between normal police, gendarmes and centaures), for every 2 protesters.
So, not much at all happened. It remains to be seen whether the 18th will prove to be any different.
Amidst that chaos, the Prime Minister assumed his new powers in a short (15 minute) ceremony.
The general consensus seems to be, from what I understand, that:
- Macron is doing the usual, naming another buddy. The difference being this time that LeCornu is VERY eager to have a "war". The situation may be ripe for declaring a State of Emergency, and use Article 16 to give Macron full powers (even if short-lived). OR, if the main parties get together, Macron would have to dissolve the National Assembly and make Bardella (far-right) the new Prime Minister. But that hasn't happened so far, so...
- The right and left are super divided. The left is saying that Macron must leave no matter what (impeachment), and the far-right (with the most seats in the National Assembly) is saying that, although they don't have much hope, they will listen to what LeCornu has to propose first, and they are not going to vote for Macron's impeachment, at least not now. If they don't, then basically him leaving office is a dream.
- They all seem to agree on one thing though: that the will of the French people is being violated en masse. Will that make any difference? No idea.
FWIW! Maybe other French speakers have better data.
More than 100 French lawmakers have signed a proposal to remove Macron from the office after French National Assembly Deputy Mathilde Panot issued an ultimatum be forced to the French President, saying that he has two options - either to resign or be impeached.
The loony left in all its glory! The even spikier horn of the dilemma.
Not so sure these 'lawmakers' should be anywhere near pens that drafts legal policies. Macron forced out though, one can hope.
For outsiders of France, here is wiki's look at the party, La France Insoumise.
EmeraldR
The Living Force
Updated / Monday, 6 Oct 2025 09:17
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Evan
The Living Force
Honestly everything I hear about France anymore just makes me worry about the Chateau. I know the Cs were positive regarding the relocation, but damn, stuff be crazy in France!Comic and dramatic at the same time ...I will be curious to know what the C'S could say on the current situation and the future of France ?
Don Cesar
The Living Force
Exactly, it's a total mess ... (not to say worse).
Yeah, things do look to be heating up in France. Sending some prayers for protection for the Chateau.
It's Parisian political intrigue gone off the scale. Much of it can be put down to a battle of over-sized egos and insane ideologies, but Macron is pulling all the strings, and is smart enough to see how things could turn out. It's not looking too far-fetched for him to assume dictatorial powers, claiming the country has become ungovernable. Just in time for the ramping up of hostilities with Russia and/or Iran? Macron's attention and ambition are focused on the international scene, after all.
However, social and political tensions seem to be cascading out of control all over the Western World, not just France. Something in the air, maybe (or should we say, the skies?)
However, social and political tensions seem to be cascading out of control all over the Western World, not just France. Something in the air, maybe (or should we say, the skies?)
Yes. As far as I can tell, it can either go "full powers to Macron" for a while, or else, he would have to leave, OR accept to have the opposition with the majority of seats in the National Assembly, which he has consistently refused to do. It's a mess, but hopefully since all of the EU is currently like this, something will give. Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part, though, and full powers it will be. But even that cannot last very long, as far as I understand article 16, yes? Enough to cause more chaos, but not enough to help him last till 2027 at peace with all the parties.
