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Nereus: Nereus was an ancient sea god with prophetic powers and the ability to change his shape. Nereus mated with one of the Oceanids (Doris) and became the father of fifty daughters called Nereids [nee're-idz]; three of these are important: Thetis, Galatea and Amphitrite. Nereids are beautiful and often, but not always, depicted as mermaids; and usually they can change their shape. He was known for his truthfulness and virtue.

Nereus, in Greek Mythology, was the eldest son of Pontus and Gaia, the Sea and the Earth, a Titan who (with Doris) fathered the Nereids, with whom Nereus lived in the Aegean Sea. In the Iliad the Old Man of the Sea is the father of Nereids, though Nereus is not directly named. He was one of the manifestations of the Old Man of the Sea, never more so than when he was described, like Proteus, as a shapeshifter with the power of prophecy, who would aid heroes such as Heracles who managed to catch him even as he changed shapes. Nereus and Proteus ("first") seem to be two manifestations of the god of the sea who was supplanted by Poseidon when Zeus overthrew Cronus. The earliest poet to link Nereus with the labours of Heracles was Pherekydes, according to a scholion on Apollonius of Rhodes.

During the course of the fifth century BCE, Nereus was gradually replaced by Triton, who does not appear in Homer, in the imagery of the struggle between Heracles and the sea-god who had to be restrained in order to deliver his information that was employed by the vase-painters, independent of any literary testimony.

Nommo: The Nommo are ancestral spirits (sometimes referred to as deities) worshipped by the Dogon tribe of Mali, Africa. The word Nommos is derived from a Dogon word meaning, 'to make one drink'. The Nommos are usually described as amphibious, hermaphroditic, fish-like creatures.

Folk art depictions of the Nommos show creatures with humanoid upper torsos, legs/feet, and a fish-like lower torso and tail. The Nommos are also referred to as Masters of the Water, the Monitors, and "the Teachers. Nommo can be a proper name of an individual, or can refer to the group of spirits as a whole.

Dogon mythology states that Nommo was the first living creature created by the sky god Amma. Shortly after his creation, Nommo underwent a transformation and multiplied into four pairs of twins. One of the twins rebelled against the universal order created by Amma. To restore order to his creation, Amma sacrificed another of the Nommo progeny, whose body was dismembered and scattered throughout the world. This dispersal of body parts is seen by the Dogon as the source for the proliferation of Binu shrines throughout the Dogons' traditional territory; wherever a body part fell, a shrine was erected.

In the latter part of the 1940's, French anthropologists Marcel Griaule and Germaine Dieterlen (who had been working with the Dogon since 1931) were the recipients of additional, secret mythologies, concerning the Nommo. The Dogon reportedly related to Griaule and Dieterlen a belief that the Nommos were inhabitants of a world circling the star Sirius.

The Nommos descended from the sky in a vessel accompanied by fire and thunder. After arriving, the Nommos created a reservoir of water and subsequently dove into the water. The Dogon legends state that the Nommos required a watery environment in which to live.

According to the myth related to Griaule and Dieterlen: "The Nommo divided his body among men to feed them; that is why it is also said that as the universe "had drunk of his body," the Nommo also made men drink. He gave all his life principles to human beings." The Nommo was crucified on a tree, but was resurrected and returned to his home world. Dogon legend has it that he will return in the future to revisit the Earth in a human form.

The Nommos bear some physical resemblance to several other mythological beings: the Oannes (Babylon), the Enki (Sumeria), Fuxi (China), Dagon (Philistine), and Nereus (Greece), to name a few. It is also interesting to note the motifs common to the story of Nommo with the story of Osiris (dismemberment and the erection of temples at the final resting places of their respective body parts). There are also numerous parallels between the story of Nommo and the traditions of Jesus: both were crucified, both instructed followers to 'drink of my body', and both were associated with the fish.

In the 1970's a book by Robert Temple titled The Sirius Mystery popularized the traditions of the Dogon concerning Sirius and the Nommos. In The Sirius Mystery, Temple came to the conclusion that the Dogon's knowledge of astronomy and non-visible cosmic phenomenon could only be explained if said knowledge was imparted upon them by an extraterrestrial race that had visited the Dogon at some point in the past and given them information concerning the cosmos. Temple related this race to the legend of the Nommos and contended that the Nommos were extraterrestrial inhabitants of the Sirius star system who had traveled to earth at some point in the distant past and had imparted knowledge about the Sirius star system as well as our own solar system upon the Dogon tribes.

Some anthropologists studying the Dogon (notably Walter van Beek) found no evidence that they had any historical advanced knowledge of Sirius. Van Beek postulated that Griaule engaged in such leading and forceful questioning of his Dogon sources that new myths were created in the process by confabulation.

Carl Sagan has noted that the first reported association of the Dogon with the knowledge of Sirius as a binary star was in the 1940's, giving the Dogon ample opportunity to gain cosmological knowledge about Sirius and the solar system from more scientifically advanced, terrestrial societies whom they had come in contact with. It has also been pointed out that binary star systems like Sirius are theorized to have a very narrow or non-existent Goldilocks Zone, and thus a high improbability of containing a planet capable of sustaining life (particularly life as dependent on water as the Nommos were reported to be).

It should also be noted that by the 1940's when Marcel Griaule and Germaine Dieterlen recorded the Nommo legends, the Dogon had already come into contact with Islam and Christianity, which could have influenced some of their earlier Nommo traditions, notably those that are similar to Christian traditions concerning Jesus.

Oannes: The Repulsive or Repellent Ones, a demon, the fish-men who the Babylonians said brought them civilization. The first and most famous was called Oannes or Oe, who was thought to have come from a 'great egg'. This one during the day stayed on the surface among people, but for all the night he had to go into the sea. He, with other similar beings called Annedotus, is the creator of the Babylonian civilization (Berosso). Later Oannes will become the Fish-God for the Philistines.

Oceanids: In Greek and Roman mythology, the Oceanids were the three thousand daughters of the Titans Oceanus and Tethys. One of these many daughters was also said to have been the wife of the god Poseidon, typically named as Amphitrite. Each of these nymphs was the patron of a particular spring, river, ocean, lake, pond, pasture, flower or cloud. Oceanus and Tethys also had 3000 sons, the river-gods (Potamoi). Whereas most sources limit the term Oceanids or Oceaniades to the daughters, others include both the sons and daughters under this term.

Oceanus: Oceanus was believed to be the world-ocean in classical antiquity, which the ancient Romans and Greeks considered to be an enormous river encircling the world. Strictly speaking, Okeanos was the ocean-stream at the Equator in which floated the habitable hemisphere (oikoumene). In Greek mythology, this world-ocean was personified as a Titan, a son of Uranus and Gaia. In Hellenistic and Roman mosaics, this Titan was often depicted as having the upper body of a muscular man with a long beard and horns, and the lower torso of a serpent (cf. Typhon). On a fragmentary archaic vessel (British Museum 1971.11-1.1) of ca 580 BCE, among the gods arriving at the wedding of Peleus and the sea-nymph Thetis, is a fish-tailed Oceanus, with a fish in one hand and a serpent in the other, gifts of bounty and prophecy. In Roman mosaics he might carry a steering-oar and cradle a ship.

Some scholars believe that Oceanus originally represented all bodies of salt water, including the Mediterranean Sea and the Atlantic Ocean, the two largest bodies known to the ancient Greeks. However, as geography became more accurate, Oceanus came to represent the stranger, more unknown waters of the Atlantic Ocean (also called the "Ocean Sea"), while the newcomer of a later generation, Poseidon, ruled over the Mediterranean.

Oceanus' consort is his sister Tethys, and from their union came the ocean nymphs, also known as the three-thousand Oceanids, and all the rivers of the world, fountains, and lakes. From Cronus, of the race of Titans, the Olympian gods have their birth, and Hera mentions twice in Iliad book xiv her intended journey "to the ends of the generous earth on a visit to Okeanos, whence the gods have risen, and Tethys our mother who brought me up kindly in their own house." In most variations of the war between the Titans and the Olympians, or Titanomachy, Oceanus, along with Prometheus and Themis, did not take the side of his fellow Titans against the Olympians, but instead withdrew from the conflict. In most variations of this myth, Oceanus also refused to side with Cronus in the latter's revolt against their father, Uranus.

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Olokun: Olokun is experienced in male and female personifications, depending on what region and of West Africa He/She is worshipped. Olokun is personified in several human characteristics; patience, endurance, sternness, observation, meditation, appreciation for history, future visions, and royalty personified. Its characteristics are found and displayed in the depths of the Ocean. Its name means Owner (Olo) of Oceans (Okun).

Olokun is considered the patron orisa of the descendants of Africans that were carried away during the Maafa, or what is sometimes referred to as the Transatlantic Slave Trade or Middle Passage. Olokun works closely with Oya (Deity of Sudden Change)and Egungun (Collective Ancestral Spirits) to herald the way for those that pass to ancestorship, as it plays a critical role in Death (Iku), Life and the transition of human beings and spirits between these two existences.

Olokun also signifies unfathomable wisdom. That is, the instinct that there is something worth knowing, perhaps more than can ever be learned, especially the spiritual sciences that most people spend a lifetime pondering. Olokun also governs material wealth, psychic abilities, dreaming, meditation, mental health and water-based healing.

Olokun is one of many Orisa known to help women that desire children. Olokun also is worshipped by those that seek political and social ascension, which is why heads of state, royalty, entrepreneurs and socialites often turn to Olokun to not only protect their reputations, but propel them further among the ranks of their peers.

Phorcys: In Greek mythology, Phorcys, or Phorkys was one of the names of the "Old One of the Sea", the primeval sea god, who, according to Hesiod, was the son of Pontus and Gaia. According to the Orphic hymns Phorcys, Cronos and Rhea were the eldest offspring of Oceanus and Tethys (Kerenyi p 42). Other names for the Old Man are Nereus and Proteus (Kerenyi pp 42-43). His wife was Ceto and together they had many children, all hideous monsters (except for the Hesperides) collectively known as the Phorcydes. The Gorgons and Scylla were four of his beautiful children, but they were turned into monsters. In ancient mosaics he was depicted as a fish-tailed merman with crab-claw fore-legs and red.

Ceto with Pontus and a lion attacking the Titans in the Titanomachy from the Pergamon Zeus Altar

Pontus: In Greek mythology, Pontus (or Pontos, "sea") was an ancient, pre-Olympian sea-god, son of Gaia and Aether, the Earth and the Air. Hesiod (Theogony, line 116) says that Gaia brought forth Pontos out of herself, without coupling. For Hesiod, Pontos seems little more than a personification of Sea. With Gaia, he was the father of the Old Man of the Sea, Nereus and Thaumas (the awe-striking "wonder" of the Sea), of the Sea's dangerous aspects, Phorcys and his sister-consort Ceto, and of the "Strong Goddess" Eurybia. With Thalassa, whose own name simply means "Sea" but in a pre-Greek root, he was the father of the Telchines. Compare the sea-Titan Oceanus, who was more vividly realized than Pontus among the Hellenes.

Greek god of the seas

Poseidon: Poseidon was the god of the sea and, as "Earth-Shaker," of earthquakes in Greek mythology. The name of the sea-god Nethuns in Etruscan was adopted in Latin for Neptune in Roman mythology: both were sea gods analogous to Poseidon. Linear B tablets show that Poseidon was venerated at Pylos and Thebes in pre-Olympian Bronze Age Greece, but he was integrated into the Olympian gods as the brother of Zeus and Hades. Poseidon has many children. There is a Homeric hymn to Poseidon, who was the protector of many Hellenic cities, although he lost the contest for Athens to Athena.

Proteus: 'Proteus' was an ancient sea-god and the herdsman of Poseidon's seals. Like the other sea-gods he had the gift of prophecy and the ability to change his shape at will. He used to rest in caves to 'shelter from the heat of the Sirius'. He was a son of Neptune and subject to thesea god Poseidon, and his dwelling place was either the island of Pharos, near the mouth of the Nile River, or the island of Carpathus, between Crete and Rhodes. He knew all things--past, present, and future--but would not share his knowledge unless compelled by a captor who could restrain the God--no matter what forms he might assume.

Scylla: Scylla is one of the two sea monsters in Greek mythology (the other being Charybdis) which lives on one side of a narrow channel of water. The two sides of the strait are within an arrow's range of each other, so close that sailors attempting to avoid Charybdis will pass too close to Scylla and vice versa. The phrase between Scylla and Charybdis has come to mean being in a state where one is between two dangers and moving away from one will cause you to be in danger from the other.

Traditionally the aforementioned strait has been associated with the Strait of Messina between Italy and Sicily but more recently this theory has been challenged and the alternative location of Cape Skilla in north west Greece suggested.

Scylla has the face and torso of a woman, but from her flanks grow six long necks equipped with dog heads, each of which contained three rows of sharp teeth. Her body consisted of twelve canine legs and a fish's tail. She was one of the children of Phorcys and either Hecate, Crataeis, Lamia or Ceto (where Scylla would also be known as one of the Phorcydes).

In Greek mythology, Ceto, or Keto (Greek: "sea monster") was a hideous aquatic monster, a daughter of Gaia and Pontus. The asteroid (65489) Ceto is named after her, and its satellite (65489) Ceto I Phorcys after her husband. She was the personification of the dangers of the sea, unknown terrors and bizarre creatures. Eventually, the word "ceto" became simple shorthand for any sea monster. It is still used in this way - cetacean is a derivation. Her husband was Phorcys and they had many children, collectively known as the Phorcydes or Phorcydides. In Greek art Ceto was drawn as a serpentine fish. Ceto also gave name to the constellation Cetus.

In Homer's Odyssey, Odysseus is given advice by Circe to sail closer to Scylla, for Charybdis could drown his whole ship. Odysseus then successfully navigates his ship past Scylla and Charybdis, but Scylla manages to catch six of his men, devouring them alive. As retold by Thomas Bulfinch, Scylla was originally a beautiful nymph.

She scorned her many suitors and chose to live among the Nereids instead, until one day Glaucus saw and fell in love with her. Glaucus was a mortal fisherman who had previously been transformed by chewing a plant, gaining the form of a fish from his waist down. When Glaucus declared his love to Scylla she fled, taking him for a monster.

Glaucus sought the help of Circe, hoping that this witch could make Scylla to love him with her herbs, but Circe fell in love with Glaucus herself and asked him to forget Scylla. Glaucus rejected her request, declaring that his love for Scylla was eternal. Circe was enraged by Glaucus' refusal, and turned her anger on the girl whom he loved.

She went and poisoned the water which Scylla used to bathe with her magical herbs. When Scylla waded into the water, the submerged half of her body was transformed into a combination of fish joined with six ferocious dogs' heads sprouting from around her waist.

The dogs attacked and devoured anyone who came near, beyond her ability to control, and Scylla fled to the shore of the strait to live there alone. It is said that by the time Aeneas' fleet came through the strait after the fall of Troy, Scylla had been changed into a dangerous rock outcropping which still stands there to this day. Scylla and Charybdis are believed to have been the entities from which the term, "Between a rock and a hard place" (ie: a difficult place) originated.

Sedna: In Inuit mythology, Sedna is a sea goddess and master of the animals, especially mammals such as seals, of the ocean. She lives in Adlivun, the Inuit underworld. Sedna is also known as Arnakuagsak or Arnarquagssaq (Greenland) and Nerrivik or Nuliajuk (Alaskan). According to myth, Sedna was the daughter of the creator-god Anguta and his wife. She is said to have been so huge and hungry that she ate everything in her parents' home, and even gnawed off one of her father's arms as he slept. According to some versions of the myth, she took a dog for her husband. Anguta was so angry that he threw her over the side of his canoe. She clung to its sides, whereupon he chopped her fingers off one by one until she let go. She sank to the underworld, becoming the queen of the monsters of the deep, and her huge fingers became the seals, sea-lions and whales hunted by the Inuit.

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Sirens: In early Greek mythology, sirens were actually prophets and described as having bodies of a bird and beautiful human heads. Some ancient myths say the sirens are the daughters of the river Achelous and the Muse of dancing, Terpsichore the "Whirler." The numbers and names of the sirens are inconsistent in classical mythology.

Homer mentions two Sirens, but only names one, Himeropa ("arousing face"). Elsewhere, there was said to be three Sirens - Thelchtereia ("enchantress"), Aglaope ("glorious face"), and Peisinoe ("seductress").

In Italy, they were named Parthenope ('virgin"), Leucosia ("white goddess"), and Ligeia ("bright-voiced").

One of them played the lyre, another sang, and another played the flute - luring mariners to crash their ships into the rocks.

The Sirens had in earlier times been companions of Persephone before she was ravished by Hades. After having sought for her in vain, they prayed that they would grow wings, which the gods granted. They also prayed that they might not lose their tuneful voices, and that was also granted by the gods, and since then, it is said, they sing in unison with the music of the Moerae.

In early Greek art the Sirens were represented as birds with the heads, and sometimes chests, of women. Later, they were represented as female figures with the legs of birds, with or without wings playing a variety of musical instruments. The 10th century encyclopedia Suda says that from their chests up Sirens had the form of sparrows, below they were women, or, alternatively, that they were little birds with women's faces.

Birds were chosen because of their characteristic beautiful voice. However, later in history Sirens were sometimes also depicted as beautiful women (whose bodies, not only their voices, are seductive), or even as mermaids (half woman, half fish). The fact that in some languages (such as Spanish, French, Italian, Polish or Portuguese) the word for mermaid is Siren, Sirena, Syrena or Sereia adds to this confusion.

Thetis: In Greek mythology, silver-footed Thetis is a sea nymph, one of the fifty Nereids, daughters of "the ancient one of the seas," Nereus, and Doris (Hesiod, Theogony), a grand-daughter of Tethys. While most extant material about Thetis concerns her role as mother of Achilles, and while she is largely a creature of poetic fancy rather than cult worship in the historical period, with one exception, a few fragmentary hints and references suggest an older layer of the tradition, in which the sea-goddess Thetis played a far more central role in the religious practices and imagination of certain Greeks. The pre-modern etymology of her name, from tithemi, "to set up, establish", suggests the perception among Classical Greeks of an early political role. Walter Burkert considers her name a transformed doublet of Tethys.

Quintus of Smyrna, recalling this passage, does write that Thetis once released Zeus from chains; but there is no other reference to this rebellion among the Olympians, and some readers, like M.M. Willcock, have understood the episode as an ad hoc invention of Homer's to support Achilles' request that his mother intervene with Zeus. Laura Slatkin explores the apparent contradiction, in that the immediate presentation of Thetis in the Iliad is as a helpless minor goddess overcome by grief and lamenting to her Nereid sisters, and links the goddess's present and past through her grief. She draws comparisons with Thetis' role in another work of the epic Cycle concerning Troy, the lost Aethiopis, which presents a strikingly similar relationship that of the divine Dawn, Eos, with her slain son Memnon; she supplements the parallels with images from the repertory of archaic vase-painters, where Eros and Thetis flank the symmetrical opposed heroes. Thetis does not need to appeal to Zeus for immortality for her son, but snatches him away to the White Island Leuke in the Black Sea, an alternate Elysium where he has transcended death, and where an Achilles cult lingered into historic times.

Triton: Triton is a mythological Greek god, the messenger of the deep. He is the son of Poseidon, god of the sea, and Amphitrite, goddess of the sea. He is usually represented as a merman, having the upper body of a human and the tail of a fish.

Like his father, he carried a trident. However, Triton's special attribute was a twisted conch shell, on which he blew like a trumpet to calm or raise the waves. Its sound was so terrible, that when loudly blown, it put the giants to flight, who imagined it to be the roar of a mighty wild beast (Hyginus, Poet. astronom. ii. 23). According to Hesiod's Theogony, Triton dwelt with his parents in a golden palace in the depths of the sea. The story of the Argonauts places his home on the coast of Libya. When the Argo was driven ashore on the Lesser Syrtes, the crew carried the vessel to Lake Tritonis, whence Triton, the local deity, guided them across to the Mediterranean (Apollonius Rhodius iv. 1552).

Triton was the father of Pallas and foster parent to the goddess Athena. Pallas was killed by Athena during a fight between the two goddesses. Triton is also sometimes cited as the father of Scylla by Lamia. Triton also appeared in Roman myths and epics. In the Aeneid, Misenus, the trumpeter of Aeneas, challenged Triton to a contest of trumpeting. The god flung him into the sea for his arrogance.

Over time, Triton's name and image came to be associated with a class of merman-like creatures, the Tritons, which could be male or female, and usually formed the escort of marine divinities. Ordinary Tritons were described in detail by the geographer Pausanias (ix. 21). A variety of Triton, the Centauro-Triton or Ichthyocentaur ("Fish-centaur"), was described as having the forefeet of a horse in addition to the human body and the fish tail. It is probable that the idea of Triton owes its origin to the Phoenician fish-deities.

The six-sided or hexagram star is revered as a religious symbol by the Hebrews who call it the Seal of Solomon, and the Hindus...

...who call it the Mark of Vishnu, a god-man who was half-man, half-fish.

First incarnation of Vishnu: This was the form of the fish, taken up by Vishnu during a deluge that submerged the earth. Matsya is generally represented as a four-armed figure with the upper torso of a man and the lower of a fish. According to a legend, Vishnu commanded a rishi to gather together samples of all species and wait in a boat. The gigantic golden fish then dragged the boat through the deluge and then enabled Brahma to start the act of creation all over again.

Yemoja: In Yoruba mythology, Yemoja is a mother goddess; patron deity of women, especially pregnant women; and the Ogun river (the waters of which are said to cure infertility). Her parents are Oduduwa and Obatala. She had one son, Orungan, who raped her successfully one time and attempted a second time; she exploded instead, and fifteen Orishas came forth from her. They include Ogun, Olokun, Shopona and Shango. Yemoja is also venerated in Vodun. Among the Umbandists, Yemoja is a goddess of the ocean and patron deity of the survivors of shipwrecks. In Santeria, Yemoja is the equivalent of Our Lady of Regla.

Enki walks out of the water to the land attended by his messenger, Isimud who is readily identifiable by his two faces looking in opposite directions (duality).

Enki was a deity in Sumerian mythology, later known as Ea in Babylonian mythology. The name Ea is of Sumerian origin and was written by means of two signs signifying "house" and "water". Enki was the deity of water, intelligence and creation. The main temple of Enki was the so-called é-engur-ra, the "house of the (water-)deep"; it was in Eridu, which was in the wetlands of the Euphrates valley at some distance from the Persian Gulf. He was the keeper of the holy powers called Me. The exact meaning of his name is not sure: the common translation is "Lord of the Earth": the Sumerian en is translated as "lord", ki as "earth"; but there are theories that ki in this name has another origin.He is the lord of the Apsu, the watery abyss. His name is possibly an epithet bestowed on him for the creation of the first man, [Adamu or Adapa. His symbols included a goat and a fish, which later combined into a single beast, the Capricorn, which became one of the signs of the zodiac. Enki had a penchant for beer and a string of incestuous affairs. First, he and his consort Ninhursag had a daughter Ninsar. He then had intercourse with Ninsar who gave birth to Ninkurra. Finally, he had intercourse with Ninkurra, who gave birth to Uttu.

According to Sumerian mythology, Enki allowed humanity to survive the Deluge designed to kill them. After Enlil, An and the rest of the apparent Council of Deities, decided that Man would suffer total annihilation, he covertly rescued the human man Ziusudra by either instructing him to build some kind of an boat for his family, or by bringing him into the heavens in a magic boat. This is apparently the oldest surviving source of the Noah's Ark myth and other parallel Middle Eastern Deluge myths.

Enki was considered a god of life and replenishment, and was often depicted with streams of water emanating from his shoulders. Alongside him were trees symbolizing the male and female aspects of nature, each holding the male and female aspects of the 'Life Essence', which he, as apparent alchemist of the gods, would masterfully mix to create several beings that would live upon the face of the Earth.

Ea is figured as a man covered with the body of a fish, and this representation, as likewise the name of his temple E-apsu, "house of the watery deep", points decidedly to his character as a god of the waters. Of his cult at Eridu, which goes back to the oldest period of Babylonian history, nothing definite is known except that his temple was named Esaggila = "the lofty house", pointing to a staged tower (as with the temple of Enlil at Nippur, which was known as Ekur = "mountain house"), and that incantations, involving ceremonial rites, in which water as a sacred element played a prominent part, formed a feature of his worship.

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To expand on the previous a little more:

The Sumerian Gods Create a Biogenetic Experiment Called Humans

(Note - the above link provides a treasure trove of additional info)

The Anunnaki King's List are sometimes depicted as humanoid. At other times they are bird-headed with wings. Often they are Reptilian in appearance especially when depicted as warriors. Sometimes they are shown as a combination of several types of entities. All is myth, math, and metaphor, so look for the clues in every set of gods you read about, as they all follow the same patterns that repeat in cycles or loops called Time. The patterns of their battles reflect reality as duality and are found within every pantheon of gods - the same characters playing different roles.

Inanna was one of the most revered of goddesses among later Sumerian mythology.

Inanna: A winged goddess wearing a multi-horned crown stands with her head in the realm of the deities and their devotees. Her bird-clawed feet rest in a place, likely the underworld, inhabited by strange and demonic creatures. This shows the duality of her nature - as well as our own - above and below. Some think her to be Lilith, but the crown shows her to be a great goddess, almost certainly Inanna. Mesopotamian cylinder seal. Hematite. 2000-1600 BCE.

She was said to descend from the ancient family of the creator goddess Nammu, who was her grandmother. Inanna held "full power of judgment and decision and the control of the law of heaven and earth." Her sacred planet was Venus, the evening star. She was often symbolized as a lioness in battle. Along the Tigris and Euphrates rivers were many shrines and temples dedicated to Inanna.

The temple of E Anna, Inanna's House of Heaven, in Uruk, was the greatest of these. This temple was 5000 years old and had been built and rebuilt many times to hold a community of sacred women who cared for the temple lands. The high priestess of Inanna would choose for her bed one she would appoint as shepherd. He would represent Dumuzi, sacred son/lover of Inanna, if he could prove his worth.

In later times, Inanna's lost some of her attributes, which were then said then to have been given her by Enki, rather than by her grandmother Nammu and her mother Ningal.

The myth states that Inanna traveled to Eridu and was given the one hundred Mes, which were the gifts of culture such as truth and justice, as well as practical skills such as weaving and pottery-making. Though Enki regretted his drunken decision to release the Mes to her and sent mighty sea monsters to stop her boat as it sailed the Euphrates, she was able to defeat them and bring the knowledge back to Uruk.

The above is quite similar to the Dogon legend: "Within the Dogon tradition, those pairs of feminine figures beamed down from the star/sun/planet of Women to their original home near the Hoggar mountains, bringing many aspects of civilization to the ancestors of their tribes."

These tales of amphibious gods and other deities are probably already known to many forum members, especially the more seasoned ones. How incredibly obvious that the bible is a total ripoff of these ancient, arcane creation stories! It is also clear where so many of our symbols have originated from, but maybe not so clear as to why they are so ubiquitous in our world today. And really, what does a mermaid have to do with coffee anyway?! More from the Freeman Perspective coming up!

 

[dannybananny]

Thanks for sharing, yeah I noticed there is everywhere serpents, this story about Dogon is interesting looks like some kind of aquatic lizzards, this reminded me when I read long time ago about alien species, that is hydra reptilians:

An aquatic reptilian species that lives in or near water, are around 5 feet tall, they have scaly webbed feet and hands. as well as gills and began reportedly coming from the constellation Hydra (also called 'The Sea Serpent') which is comprised of three star systems of Beta Hydrae, Epsilon Hydrae and N Hydrae. In Greek mythology there are the dragons Hydra, Python, and the dragon Typhon, all serpent like.

There are many names of serpent gods and goddesses for that matter throughout every continent including hybrid prototypes engraved on tombs, on walls of unearthed ancient cities in the middle east.

_http://www.maar.us/alien_species.html

Don't look very friendly to me! And there is a word about c's:

Cassiopaeans

The Cassiopaeans are supposedly a highly advanced intelligent race of humanoids from the star system of Cassiopeia. Several New Age groups proclaim to channel these beings via telepathic communications. This is possibly another race based in more myth than fact. They have be described as beings of light, beings with halos or appearing in a dimensional energy form surrounded by light. Note: Coming form a former channeling cult I cannot place much stock in depending on channeled information as a source for credible information dealing with entities or aliens, or future selves....)

He can't place much stock on channeled information as a source of credible information but he sure did take some information about Antarieans:

A humanoid species associated with underground bases on earth under Antarctica and associated with fair haired pale almost bluish skinned races. In some explanations, it's said that these creatures also have reptilian qualities, they have slits instead of regular pupils and eye colors ranging from pale yellow to bright green more in tune with a cat or snakes eyes. In other explanations it is said they may be a pure Aryan race and have the swastika on their ships.

 

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Well, I have spent considerable time listening to some of Freeman's more recent radio interviews. They include Max Igan talks with Freeman, 3/3/2010 Freeman on Star Theory, and 3/25/2010 Freeman on Truth Be Told Radio, all accessible from Freeman's site at _http://freemantv.whynotnews.eu/?p=408. The Max Igan interview is a two part presentation of 6 parts each. Max Igan has his own website, thecrowhouse.com. The other two interviews are accessible on the right side of the page about a quarter of the way down, listed under Latest Featured Shows. Although there is much of the same ground covered in each interview, plus a reiteration of what has already been presented either in this thread or linked from it, there are also some interesting nuggets of new information, some concerning Freeman himself that were new to me. For instance Freeman and his friends saw a unique UFO and were apparently abducted by it! This was from the Star Theory interview: According to Freeman, he had just graduated from college and was with several friends for Spring Break. There were huge crowds of people and cars where they were, but they decided to walk down a block to the beach. It was around 10 p.m. From there they spotted a ufo - a large rectangle, divided in 4 squares with red translucent light floating over the ocean. Freeman remembers following it with his finger but not actually seeing it take off. They went back to the street only to find the area completely empty of cars and people! They at first thought everyone there had been abducted, but finally ran into some other people only to discover it was now 3 a.m.! They had lost 5 hours!!! This was in 1993 and it was the start of Freeman's trek down the path he is currently on. Another curious anecdote was how he acquired his name. He was working at a restaurant in which he was server #3, but was actually their first employee, their trainer and closer, and top salesman. One day he got up and shouted, "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!". It's been his moniker ever since! 1999 and the Y2K scenario was a pivotal point for him, seeing that his knowledge of Freemasonry gave him an insider's perspective as to what was playing out before his eyes! Included was Bill Clinton's cryptic comments that caused most people to think "huh?" - (our children are ready; it is a rising sun), but made perfect sense to those who knew the 'code'! Freeman stopped working and started a life that he later found to be explicated in The Celestine Prophecy by James Redfield, which Freeman recommends be read to get an understanding of what he is talking about.

One of Freeman's most important points about what is going on has to do with symbolic gestures. His deep understanding of Freemasonry allows him to put the clues together and come up with the next steps in the plan that he sees playing out. He is still stating that he believes the next significant move will be on July 4 of this year. He did first talk about 7/4 last year and there was some movement by the Pope in conjunction with the Temple Mount at that time. In 1870 Albert Pike outlined 3 world wars and the last one is expected to be between Political Zionists and the leaders of the Moslem world. The Vatican seizing the Temple Mount is to provoke this conflict, inevitably bringing in Russia and China against the US and Israel. Considering that Pike was right on the money concerning the first two world wars, this does not bode well.

One of Freeman's strongest points now is that Obama, his wife, and children are clones of Akhenaten, his mother Queen Tiye, and two of his daughters that became regents. Amazingly enough, Michael Tsarion is claiming that he discovered this link as well and is no longer speaking to Freeman because Tsarion wasn't given co-credit! I wasn't familiar with Tsarion and did read some of the forum material about him before looking at his website material. He has some pretty interesting stuff, too, including: The Irish Origins of Civilization - Akhenaton, the Cult of Aton, and the Dark Side of the Sun (Polemical Investigations into the Extermination of Druidry and the Rise of Judeo-Christianity) at this link, _http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/irishoriginsexcerpts/book2_chap41.html. Now, I really recommend taking a gander at what's presented there as Tsarion is saying the same thing that Freud supposedly said, that Moses was Akhenaten! And, I'm wondering if Laura's followup to SHOTW, The Horns of Moses, might be in the same vein. Tsarion has more at these two links: _http://www.taroscopes.com/miscellanous-pages/briefhistoryireland.html and _http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/appendices/druidicsymbolism.html.

I'm going to post this so as to avoid accidentally losing what I've written, but there's more to come!

Just wanted to add these 7/4 tidbits: The cornerstone of the One World Tower is dated 7/4, the Georgia Guidestones are 7/4 in size and structure, and the 'crown' of the Statue of Liberty was (re)opened on 7/4/09.

 

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I'm finding all this info regarding ancient origins extremely fascinating! Laura has contended (and archaeology bears it out) that there was never a Solomon's temple and Freeman happens to say in the Max Igan interview, "King Solomon's temple, if it ever existed...", which certainly throws a new light on things. I guess I'm getting the impression that Solomon and Solomon's temple weren't of the Hebrew bible, but of ancient Egypt!

The Bible - Book of the Pharaohs

Jews believe and state openly that Moses was the author of the Hebrew Torah (the first five books of the Old Testament). He is also known to be the disseminator of the hidden Oral Tradition, that eventually inspired the Babylonian Talmud. But, as the great Sigmund Freud pointed out, and as we re-assert - MOSES WAS AKHENATON - the Bible is not a Jewish tome, but an Egyptian one. This is the great secret that has been kept from humankind for so long. The generations of alteration and re-editing by Josephus and Bacon and others has merely assisted in this truth being kept hidden. But when we understand the true identity of this Moses, we understand also the true authors of the Bible. This is the real reason why Bibles can be found on Masonic altars. It is not because Masons are Christians, but because they are Atonists, as are all Christians and Jews, regardless of what false notions the Vatican spin-doctors have connived and enforced.

On one level, the bible works as a secret biography of its authors. Its many illustrious characters are cleverly conceived mythographs, or fictive devices for the chief dignitaries of the "Holy Family" of Akhenaton - the one cast out - and unable to find a place to rest his head (Capstone). The proliferation of Egyptian solar and stellar symbolism within its text can now be fully explained, given that its true authors stand exposed as Egypt's "Broken Kings" of old. Their god was Aton, the light, the sun, the force judging and looking down on all from the "heavens." "Our Father, who art in heaven." Aton was the young sun at the horizon. The old Christian word for prayer was orizon - with the same meaning. Christianity was fashioned as a replacement for Talmudic Judaism that would continue to operate in secrecy, behind the walls of Freemasonic lodges and so-called "Invisible Colleges." The trail of the past, of the descent through time of Akhenaton and his Cult, had to be concealed and Mosaic Judaism offered imperfect cover. It was a liability, since a close reading of the Judaic religion eventually exposes its Egyptian roots. Christ would be from a heavenly realm far above confines of the world. He would reject the Pharisees, and they would reject and condemn him. Christ would be accepted by the Gentile nations of the west and all would be well. A new church for a new age, a new doctrine to be forced on the western world by holy Emperors. No more Torah or Talmud, and barely a mention of Egypt. When the Pauline "Christ" apparently rejects the Old Testament laws the way was opened for a breakaway religion with new converts and adherents. As time passed, and as men got on with their new religion, the cunning Levitical masters of the Cult of Aton could breathe easy. Their trail was getting harder and harder to espy.

Ok, I'm going to leave off from this whole Egyptian/Jewish/Christian ball of wax, mostly because it rather makes my head spin! Except to mention the symbolism of the double cross (Exxon, Nabisco) - the second cross was Christ and the first cross was Akhenaton! I'd like to address some of the other points from Freeman's interviews - like chemtrails!

Freeman especially enjoys the Rainbow Gatherings that take place in national parks. Even though he arrives days early and they are out in the middle of nowhere, come the day of the event, the skies are strewn thick with chemtrails! And these always have the result of inflicting flu-like symptoms. The first time it happened, Freeman was so ill he almost died! He has since found out that these chemtrails are comprised of barium and aluminum and that heavy metal poisoning is what causes the symptoms. Max Igan says where he is currently living in Australia, they are being subjected to the same thing on a regular basis. He has a rainwater analysis posted on his website showing these chemicals are there. Freeman says their purpose is to allow people to be tracked by Xban radar, an array of which was shipped out of Texas and up to Alaska the day before Katrina hit. There is some speculation that they may facilitate the creation of holograms as well, such as the pyramid over Moscow last year. Freeman states that they started the chemtrails in America in '96, but they were already in use in the middle east - feeding barium to the insurgents. At first the chemical composition was too heavy and it fell to the ground as spidery weblike substances that when touched, made people sick. Altogether, chemtrails allow for tracking and manipulating people probably in conjunction with HAARP.

There's a lot of discussion concerning pop icons, from Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction to Pink's being hung up in the air. These were not random or unintended happenings. Freeman goes into detail as to what these 'acts' really are - these goddesses and gods are performing high profile rituals in public to bring about more major rituals! I mean think about it - the Brittany/Madonna kiss, Janet Jackson's 'sun' emblem exposure during the 'wardrobe malfunction', Beyonce and the Storm Troopers, and a bloody Lady Gaga is also hung! Plus, what's the connection with Mouseketeers/Disney, blonds dyeing their hair brown then shaving it off, and the whole Anna Nicole saga? Freeman explains it all! But, wait a minute - we're not done yet! What's Michael Jackson doing in the Chicago museum . . . as an Egyptian pharaoh no less!!! You have to see it to believe it! Yeah, the bizarreness is off the charts and into the stratosphere!

Another interesting point hit upon by Freeman concerns the Phoenix lights. Much to my surprise, it was related that the often shown video of the Phoenix lights was DIFFERENT from the craft reportedly seen by witnesses! According to Freeman, it was a gigantic anti-gravity V shaped craft with 4 blue plasma balls and an orange hour glass symbol in the center. Freeman said he had also seen that type of craft before (tried to video record it but was unsuccessful) and he feels it is primarily human technology. It was also pointed out how Gov. Symington went from initially ridiculing the incident with his introduction of the 'alien' to seriously acknowledging the event now.

So, what's really going on? Amazingly enough, there are parallels to the Cass material. What comes to mind:

Session Date: September 3rd 2008

A: USA heading for destruction!

Q: (L) Hello. Can we say hello first?

A: Hello

Q: (L) And who do we have with us this evening?

A: Yeaionnia of Cassiopaea.

Q: (L) Do you transmit through Cassiopaea?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Okay. Why do you introduce tonight's adventures with "US is headed for destruction"?

A: Passed the point when anything could possibly be done to change the outcome.

Q: (L) What is this outcome?

A: Increasing inner turmoil. Review what happened in Germany.

Q: (L) Well, what happened in Germany in what period?

A: Towards the end of the war. Hitler's madness and the hatred of the world towards Germany.

Q: (L) Wasn't a pretty picture, was it? (J) In Germany, the rest of the world bombed Germany...

A: Yes. Expect it in the USA ultimately.

Q: (J) Would that be nuclear bombs?

A: And more.

Q: (A***) Is it going to destroy the rest of the world with it?

A: Not exactly... but the cosmic stuff will take its toll.

It's a stage play created to fulfill the brotherhood dream of a new Atlantis. Besides the tearing down of the office of president (Bill Clinton), forcing a president into office (W), and putting in an ineligible president (Obama), it's part and parcel of the trauma-based mind control. Add to this the 9/11 truther movement. All is designed to demoralize people, to destroy our will - it's like experiencing a death and we're put through the stages of grief - shock, anger, denial, depression and eventually acceptance. The US becomes nothing more than a shopping mall/a theme park - we cannot produce anything! But then we're demonized because we have become the force of Satan! Our fake war on terror, as exposed by the 9/11 truth, and our role in manufactured earthquakes - this could easily bring the hatred of the world upon us as well as bombs! Bush and company escape to Paraguay where they have already purchased property and the 'Nuremberg' type trials are held for the peons left behind. The Freemasons have always prized Venus - the star called Merica (Venus, the goddess) - America/Lucifer! America IS the new Atlantis, and I seem to remember hearing that before!

I've only touched upon a few of the subjects and details from these interviews. I think they are well worth hearing as Freeman expounds on his experiences and what he is seeing playing out before us all. The concept of the Dark Hero who feels warranted to use slash and kill violence for the cause of justice has been carefully inculcated into the public's mind. Freeman's statement that the space program, renamed Ares (the god of war indicating Obama's coupling of NASA with the DOD) will fall has been realized TODAY! See http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/27/AR2010032702810.html for the story of the discontinuation of NASA's Constellation program:

The new NASA strategy shifts the task of launching astronauts to low Earth orbit from traditional government contracts to commercial contracts. If the private sector can create a taxi to space, NASA can focus on new technologies and longer journeys in the solar system.

This is EXACTLY what Freeman predicted in these interviews! He said the Ares would never fly (test flight only) and that corporatism would take place! What he predicts next is the development of the Space X (dragon will rise) spacecraft, named the Falcon (Horus) vehicle with the Merlin rocket engine (the wizard of King Arthur). Again, these symbolic names are NOT just a coincidence! Nothing is ever done by accident!

I really think that Freeman has something of value and substance to add to what is happening here - certainly more so than Clif High! Furthermore, Freeman and Max Igan have jointly issued an open invitation to fellow researchers to come together and share the knowledge that each has accumulated in order to facilitate the discovery of solutions to these very real threats to humankind! And, yes, the existence of psychopaths is being acknowledged by both these parties! I believe that Freeman, particularly, REALLY gets it! He has stated quite clearly and emphatically that his information is not for the purpose of fear mongering nor to provoke violence - just the opposite! He's saying, in his own words, exactly what the C's are saying - we have the power (just like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz) to change this reality at any time! Live without taking - allow yourself to be needy and meek - be Jesus yourself! The use of guns or legislation against the Beast cannot destroy it - you'll be destroyed instead because it only exists in our minds and is fulfilled in the 3rd dimension! Reject the superiority engendered by the psychopathic structure. Live the life of sharing and synchronistic miracles. But most of all, as was so dramatically shown in the movie War Games . . .

the only way to win is TO NOT PLAY THE GAME!​

 

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Talk about synchronisity! After posting a comment to Sott.net regarding the $500 million now useless launch tower and Freeman's prediction regarding it and the Ares rocket, I found this article linked from the theylie.com website:

ELEVEN QUESTIONS ABOUT TESLA
_http://www.theylie.com/profiles/blogs/eleven-questions-about-tesla

Notice the references to pyramids and Atlantis! And not only that, but hubby and I had just recently watch the movie, The Prestige - of which Tesla played an integral part! I highly recommend the movie!

This is also on the site, _http://www.theylie.com/, and may prove to be quite interesting:

Podcast #070 - Zionism (and anti-Semitism) is Stupid - An Interview with Prof. Shlomo Sand

I still can't get over how Freeman called the Atlas, the Ares, Space X, and the Falcon! Wowie-Zowie!

 

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An ominous sign?

J’lem posters call for 3rd Temple

Posters leaving out Al Aksa mosque plastered on buses with e. Jerusalem routes.

While tensions continue to simmer around the Temple Mount after riots in and around the capital’s Old City earlier this month, a new campaign calling for the construction of the Third Temple atop the holy site has made its way to the sides of 200 Egged buses in the city, which now sport posters featuring a picture of a rebuilt temple on the Mount, and nothing else.

The posters, which contain the phrase, “May the Bais Hamikdosh be rebuilt speedily and within our days,” were sponsored by the Our Land of Israel group, which is led by Rabbi Shalom Dov Volpo and activist Baruch Marzel, leave out the site’s current structures – namely the the Aksa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock.

The campaign’s organizers chose to plaster the posters on buses whose routes take them through predominately Arab neighborhoods of east Jerusalem.

With regards to the campaign, Volpo said Israel is waiting breathlessly for the coming of the messiah and the rebuilding of the temple.

“The Arabs and President Obama know that the Temple will be built on the Temple Mount,” he said. “Instead of the temporary buildings that are there today.”

Speaking to The Jerusalem Post on Sunday, Marzel said it was no mistake that the Islamic shrines were left out of the picture.


“We’re representing the truth, in front of everyone, and saying out loud what every Jew believes,” Marzel said. “That the Third Temple needs to be built immediately on the Temple Mount and that the mosque should not be there.”

“When we reach the end of the Pessah Seder tomorrow night, he continued, “we’ll say, ‘Next year in a rebuilt Jerusalem.’ What does ‘rebuilt’ mean? It means with the Third temple intact.”

Marzel brushed off the furor the ads might elicit from the capital’s Muslims, saying, “It upsets them that we’re alive, and that we’re living here.

“If such a basic point is going to piss them off, then we mine as well say what we truly believe and what we pray for three times a day. That is to rebuild the holy temple on top of the Temple Mount, and tomorrow – not to wait any longer.”

The controllers are tugging the strings! :(

 

[Cyre2067]

Hey Jeep, just an observation and maybe I'm way off base here, but it seems to me you're a little obsessed with Freeman's stuff.

The whole saturn symbol = dogon symbol, it didn't 'connect' for me in anyway. And the fact that he drew it when he was 9... big deal?

There are way too many coincidences, synchronicities, and just way out weirdness that he seems to be connecting right and left to believe that it's all just a bunch of blather, IMO. Admittedly, I think he's off base on some things, and he admits himself that he may be off on things as well. But, he firmly believes that a script is being followed, playing out in front of him as an informed, but ultimately helpless, spectator.

What if he's right? It's a script, a drama, a distraction. You read the wave right? Remember how people would get sidetracked by synchronicities, having them magically confirm some belief and totally lead them away from the truth of the matter...

Personally I have too many non-fiction books on my pile to delve into what if land, predictions, and other endless distraction.

 

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I thought the whole idea of the Wave and Laura's work is to get people to awaken. Is Freeman's work in any way antithetical to that? Is it a distraction to actually SEE what is going on around us? The ancient monoliths all over the world tell us of an ancient civilization with an ancient technology. The Freemason symbolic architecture tells us of an ongoing civilization that could very well be using a different, alien-derived technology to manipulate and control humanity. An open invitation has been issued to connect and compare research. If this group feels that Freeman is totally off-base with what he is doing, here's the opportunity to tell him so and show him what we feel is the correct path. Plus, wouldn't this provide an opportunity to expand awareness concerning the Cassiopaen material and most importantly, the EE program? A potentially much wider audience could be reached resulting in increased DVD and book sales raising more funds to do more good work. What logical reason is there to rebuff such an opportunity?

What if an invitation was issued to attend a certain upcoming conference? Meet on neutral ground and see if there is a meeting of the minds? No harm, no foul, I would think. It's certainly not my call to make and if the decision is to not engage, I won't lose any sleep over it. I trust in Laura's judgment and intuition and that she knows how best to proceed.

It should be clear that people's religious beliefs are being used against not only them, but the whole world. Waking people up to the origins of these bogus religious beliefs may be key to realizing a positive outcome from our current state of affairs. Is Freeman in any way spreading lies, fear, or discontent? I seem to recall that the C's themselves said Laura and group weren't the only ones here to establish a conduit. How do we know Freeman isn't an alternative path to the same objective? We know all these secret groups exist - the Freemasons, the Jesuits, the Knights of Malta, the Knights of Columbus, the Illuminati. They have been furtively manipulating humankind for centuries. I guess I don't see anything wrong in trying to understand the way they work, what exactly they have planned, or exposing them for what they are. I don't see how that goes against the work being done here. I do get the impression that some people think Freeman is more or less looking into a crystal ball and making predictions for the purpose of distraction. What seems clear to me is that his deep understanding of Freemasonry is allowing him to discern the symbolic dates that have been used repeatedly over time to mark significant events. He was expecting the 9/11 and 10/13 events to happen during Bill Clinton's administration based on what he was seeing with the push to enact Homeland security legislation. He admits he doesn't know the year - he can only approximate the month and day. Doesn't seem that much different from the C's who also can't nail down exact times. And, if we can get an idea of what the plan is, perhaps evasive action can be taken to counteract any negative ramifications from such action. Knowledge does protect - so maybe it's worthwhile to pay attention even if we're not entirely comfortable with the platform being used, OSIT. :/

 

[anart]

For what it's worth, Jeep - I understand what you're saying, but I tend to agree with Puck's assessment. There is a certain flavor to the way you write about this that indicates quite an identification with it, as if you know, for certain it is true. What if it is not?

 

[Cyre2067]

I thought the whole idea of the Wave and Laura's work is to get people to awaken. Is Freeman's work in any way antithetical to that?

I think you're missing my point. My observation was more to the tone of your posts, their rapid succession, it just seemed a little over the top to me. I'll admit I haven't read every single post in this thread, nor have I even checked out Freeman's website, my observation was more geared towards your response to his work then his work itself.

Again, I may be off base, it was just something I saw so I thought I'd point it out for consideration.

 

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OK, Puck, I can see your point now. First of all, I have to admit that I really do like Freeman - I just like his style and what appears to be to me, his complete honesty. He's just so laid back and easy going, but also with a very loving attitude. Second of all, I was absolutely flabbergasted that the very thing I had just viewed like three days ago had totally come to pass and was staring at me from my newspaper page! I mean, it was just so amazing to see all the elements that he had clearly described, right there in print! I thought whoa - that's so unreal! So, sorry if my enthusiasm created the wrong impression, the wrong vibe, or just wrongness period.

I was also enthused that Freeman and Max expressed a desire to share their research with fellow researchers. They know they don't have all the answers and that it just makes sense to come together and discover what each has to offer, and see if any solutions are available. Seems like a great opportunity to educate and enlighten those who have yet to find or grasp what's available here, especially the EE program. I see a lot of parallels between Freeman's work and Laura's and think, if there's a possibility of a mutually beneficial collaboration, why not give it a go?

As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I know I saw some articles involving the Temple Mount sometime in the past year, but was unsuccessful in finding them through my newspaper's search function. Just out of curiosity, I decided to google to see if I could turn up anything. Again, I was flabbergasted to see the article about the buses with the inflammatory Temple Mount posters in Jerusalem - and it just happened yesterday! Whoa again - what are the odds?

I just want to make clear that I have absolutely no idea if Freeman is right any more than I am totally certain that Laura is absolutely right! They both have provided very credible data and I'm doing my best to properly absorb and assimilate what's being presented in as sane, logical, and responsible way as possible. And really, you should take a look at that pharaoh's bust in the Chicago museum - really freaky!

Hope this makes things copacetic again!

 

[sid]

I think this has been covered in few places on the forum and in the wave too that why C's never give clear predictions or specific dates. Future is based on probabilities hence nothing can be pinpointed to a particular calendar date or time and it's quite easy for a 4th density faction to facilitate events to lend credibility to said prophecies only to divert populous from the real path of learning. We, as 3rd density STS beings like information being offered on plate with the ultimate fantasy of travelling in a time machine to learn as much possible the easiest way. Where's the fun in self-discovery if we knew everything about tomorrow.

It would be interesting to hear more from this freeman dude directly but I suspect he'd come round to make any more posts. No offense, but his one post definitely got you excited, sorta like how one'd be jumping with joy on winning the "bring home a celebrity" contest. As if a teacher just acknowledged one of his thousands of followers, feeding your internal consideration to the max. At least that's the impression I picked up. I admit though, this is something of an exciting material to ponder over so, will definitely listen in free time.

Cheers!

Sid