The Ice Age Cometh! Forget Global Warming!

I had a dream last night where some sort of discussion was going on and I don't remember much except that it was stated that everything would collapse in two years. I had the impression that this was due to the total collapse of the weather, i.e. full bore ice age in progress. For what it's worth.
I had a similar dream three weeks or so ago. I was with a man and he was telling me many things. I had already dreamed two times of him and each time it was to warn me. This time he was wearing a military uniform and looked grim. I don't remember the specifics but he said that things would change, that everything will be taken from us, that I had to be ready. Then he opened a window and he showed me outside, saying "see? and we are in August". It was snowing.
 
Just a thought; the two year time frame coincides with the Deagel 2025 populations forecasts where they predict massive population declines globally and mostly in the West. The article below focuses on the effect of vaccines, economic collapse, wars etc. but i think we can be pretty sure whoever was behind the Deagel forecasts definitely had an idea about the coming ice age.
The Deagle.com site is now an archive, but the notes below the list of country predictions are interesting, even if he mentions no ice age. The page was saved from: Ancile and the archive is archive.ph

There have been many questions about the countries forecast specially the one focusing on the United States of America (USA). They won't be answered one by one but below you can find some explanation, thoughts and reflections. We are going to keep this as short as possible.

The majority of the economic and demographic data used in the making of the forecasts is widely available by institutions such as the CIA, IMF, UN, USG, etc. You can see the most relevant data at every single country's page. There is a tiny part of data coming from a variety of shadow sources such as Internet gurus, unsigned reports and others. But all these sources are from the internet and are of public domain for at least a minority. For example, several years ago Dagong, the Chinese ratings agency, published a report analyzing the physical economy of the States comparing it with those of China, Germany and Japan. The conclusion was that the US GDP was something between $5 to $10 trillion instead of $15 trillion as officially reported by the USG. We assume that the official data, especially economic, released by governments is fake, cooked or distorted in some degree. Historically it is well known that the former Soviet Union was making up fake statistics years before its collapse. Western as well as other countries are making up their numbers today to conceal their real state of affairs. We are sure that many people out there can find government statistics in their own countries that by their own personal experience are hard to believe or are so optimistic that may belong to a different country.

Despite the numeric data "quantity" there is a "quality" model which has not a direct translation into numeric data. The 2014 strain of Ebola has a death rate of 50-60% but try to imagine what would happen if there is a pandemic of Ebola with hundreds of thousands or millions infected with the virus. So far the few cases of Ebola-infected people have "enjoyed" intensive healthcare with anti-viral and breathing assistance but above all with abundant human support by Physicians and nurses. In a pandemic scenario that kind of healthcare won't be available for the overwhelming number of infected leading to a dramatic increase of the death rate due to the lack of proper healthcare. The "quality" factor is that the death rate could increase to 80-90% in a pandemic scenario from the stated 50-60% rate. The figure itself is not important what is relevant is the fact that the scenario can evolve beyond the initial conditions from a 50% death toll to more than 90%. By the way, no pandemic or nuclear war is included in the forecast.

The key element to understand the process that the USA will enter in the upcoming decade is migration. In the past, specially in the 20th century, the key factor that allowed the USA to rise to its colossus status was immigration with the benefits of a demographic expansion supporting the credit expansion and the brain drain from the rest of the world benefiting the States. The collapse of the Western financial system will wipe out the standard of living of its population while ending ponzi schemes such as the stock exchange and the pension funds. The population will be hit so badly by a full array of bubbles and ponzi schemes that the migration engine will start to work in reverse accelerating itself due to ripple effects thus leading to the demise of the States. This unseen situation for the States will develop itself in a cascade pattern with unprecedented and devastating effects for the economy. Jobs offshoring will surely end with many American Corporations relocating overseas thus becoming foreign Corporations!!!! We see a significant part of the American population migrating to Latin America and Asia while migration to Europe - suffering a similar illness - won't be relevant. Nevertheless the death toll will be horrible. Take into account that the Soviet Union's population was poorer than the Americans nowadays or even then. The ex-Soviets suffered during the following struggle in the 1990s with a significant death toll and the loss of national pride. Might we say "Twice the pride, double the fall"? Nope. The American standard of living is one of the highest, far more than double of the Soviets while having added a services economy that will be gone along with the financial system. When pensioners see their retirement disappear in front of their eyes and there are no servicing jobs you can imagine what is going to happen next. At least younger people can migrate. Never in human history were so many elders among the population. In past centuries people were lucky to get to their 30s or 40s. The American downfall is set to be far worse than the Soviet Union's one. A confluence of crisis with a devastating result.

The Demographic crisis in the former Soviet Union countries has extended for over two decades, if we accept that it ended early in this decade (2010s). The demographic crisis will hit the World in the near future and is projected to last between three and eight decades more or less depending on technological breakthrough and environmental issues. The aftermath is more likely a frozen picture with the population numbers staying the same for a very, very long period of time. The countries forecast population numbers do reflect birth/deaths but also migratory movements. Many countries are going to increase their gross population due to immigration while their native population may shrink.

Over the past two thousand years we have witnessed the Western civilization built around the Mediterranean Sea shifting to Northern Europe and then by the mid 20th century shifting to an Atlantic axis to finally get centered into the States in the past 30 years. The next move will see the civilization being centered in Asia with Russia and China on top. Historically a change in the economic paradigm has resulted in a death toll that is rarely highlighted by mainstream historians. When the transition from rural areas to large cities happened in Europe many people unable to accept the new paradigm killed themselves. They killed themselves by a psychological factor. This is not mainstream but it is true. A new crisis joins old, well known patterns with new ones.

Sorry to disappoint many of you with our forecast. It is getting worse and worse every year since the beginning of the pre-crisis in 2007. It is already said that this website is non-profit, built on spare time and we provide our information and services AS IS without further explanations and/or guarantees. We are not linked to any government in any way, shape or form. We are not a death or satanic cult or arms dealers as some BS is floating around the internet on this topic. Take into account that the forecast is nothing more than a model whether flawed or correct. It is not God's word or a magic device that allows to foresee the future.

Sunday, October 26th, 2014
To me, it seems the published arguments around depopulation in some countries are more related to economy, the historical cases, and what is known about pandemics, than to an ice age. It was written in Autumn 2014, the year of conflict beginning in Eastern Europe, the Year Zero.
 
As you can see from the first image to the left, there is warming going on in Greenland. The small diagram below, indicates that from now on melting will be less and less.
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This time of the melting season, is when the maximum melt usually happens. This year the snow continued to build up later than usual, but otherwise, it is within what people are used to. All images are from Surface Conditions: Polar Portal

The average temperature and winds for the last five days, as found on Current Weather: Polar Portal shows Greenland to be the coldest larger landmass on the Northern Hemisphere:
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They say that:
In addition, the NAO index is shown. This is a measure of the strength of the westerly winds in the North Atlantic. When the index is negative, the flow is wavier, which increases the probability of transport of warm air to Greenland from the south.
 
Interestingly, I saw today this on a Telegram feed from sputnik regarding declining populations from 2020 to 2050:
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🇱🇻🇱🇹Lithuania will lose 22.1% of the population. Latvia — 21.6%.

The forecast from 2020 to 2050 is provided by Visualcapitalist with reference to UN data.

The leaders are Bulgaria, Lithuania and Latvia. Ukraine is the fourth.

Moldova is in eighth place.

Experts consider emigration, low birth rate and high mortality to be the reasons for the population decline.

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They do not appear to factor in economic depression, ice age or real pandemics, yet count on a high mortality.
 

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Experts consider emigration, low birth rate and high mortality to be the reasons for the population decline.
Because of poor economy people emigrate to west and can not afford raising children, and most population that stays are older ones and pensioners that have not many years left, can not go abroad or something connects them to their country. They made predictions in my country that in few decedes just because of economy country will go extinct. Add to that what is coming it seems there is no end in sight and as Cs said death will become blessing for most. The reality of situation.
 
Will the public blame the Elite for the Ice Age because of their experiments? A better way will be a collective understanding of the Cosmic-Human connection and how it functions. Either way, it seems that sooner or later the masses will turn against the Elite.

Yes...as I recall Bill Gates wants to block out the sun as well. :headbash:
 
Saw this on Twitter recently, and it reminded me of the title of this thread!

It's the cover of Radio Times, a British TV/Radio supplemental, from November 1974.

Like other counterpoints being made by 'climate change' skeptics these days, it was tweeted to make the point that the current 'heatwave apocalypse' hysteria pushed by the media is just that - hysteria. Specifically, the current hysteria, whereas this 'older hysteria' from the 1970s was just an earlier iteration of one long stream of media-promoted hysteria about 'the weather'.

Is it though?
As I recall, Russian scientists predicted back in 2016 that we were headed towards an ice age.
 
As I recall, Russian scientists predicted back in 2016 that we were headed towards an ice age.
You might be referring to the Russian Astrophysicist Dr. Habibullo Abdussamatov who said it in 2014 and has repeated it since as far as I know.
New paper by Russian solar physicist by Habibullo Abdussamatov predicts another Little Ice Age within the next 30 years
 
As I recall, Russian scientists predicted back in 2016 that we were headed towards an ice age.
You may be referring to this article posted on SOTT about a study presented in 2015, predicting a 60% drop in solar activity in the 2030s which would lead to the same conditions that were experienced during the Maunder Minimum, the most severe part of the Little Ice Age.

Edit: just saw Aeneas’ post above, that might be the one, and his predictions are even more dire for what is about to come.
 
You might be referring to the Russian Astrophysicist Dr. Habibullo Abdussamatov who said it in 2014 and has repeated it since as far as I know.
Yes, this was the fellow! :thup:
 
I had a dream last night where some sort of discussion was going on and I don't remember much except that it was stated that everything would collapse in two years. I had the impression that this was due to the total collapse of the weather, i.e. full bore ice age in progress. For what it's worth.
World Economic is in the process of collapse (2 years tops), Energy supply (Oil and gas) is in process of collapse in Europe (Months) and then more contries (Months/next year) depending on their needs from outside sources. That beside the weather problem.
 
Just found this article in the PNAS, its premise is of course AGW. But the interesting part is the justification for the research, which is the evaluation of truly catastrophic scenarios, which they call "Climate Endgame".

Reading through, the study names four consequences of extreme climate change, which they call the "Four Horsemen":

There are many potential contributors to climate-induced morbidity and mortality, but the “four horsemen” of the climate change end game are likely to be famine and undernutrition, extreme weather events, conflict, and vector-borne diseases.

On this last point, they expand a bit:

Climate change could affect the spread and transmission of infectious diseases, as well as the expansion and severity of different zoonotic infections (76), creating conditions for novel outbreaks and infections (6,77).

On another interesting point, the study acknowledges the need to revisit history and learn from it.

Prehistory and history should be studied to determine not just how past societies were affected by specific climate hazards but how those effects differ as societies change with respect to, for example, population density, wealth inequality, and governance regime. Such framing will allow past and current societies to be brought under a single system of analysis (37).

I thought it was curious this sort of analysis would come from such a big publication, they know something is coming and fast.
 
For what its worth Farmers' Almanac's winter prediction and also NOAA's - perhaps not surprisingly at odds with each other.
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Farmers' Almanac declares parts of US 'hibernation zone' with predicted 'glacial, snow-filled' winter

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Many Americans have been broiling through an above-average summer, but if the Farmers' Almanac winter forecast is right, some parts of the nation are heading for a polar opposite experience this winter.

Their annual whimsical forecast is hinting at a particularly harsh winter across much of the North with "real shivers" that "might send people in the Great Lakes areas, Northeast and North Central regions hibernating."

In fact, their forecast map declares much of the upper Midwest a "Hibernation Zone" with a "glacial, snow-filled" winter head with temperatures forecast to drop as cold as -40 in the North Central states in mid-January which would be near record territory for some cities (such as Fargo, North Dakota) if such forecasts came to pass.

While temperatures wouldn't be that cold in the Northeast, the Almanac is predicting "significant shivers" there. Even in the Southeast, whose forecast isn't particularly snowy, is still looking at a "shivery, wet and slushy" winter, according to the Almanac.

As for the Southern Plains, expect the brunt of winter to come in January, with heavy snow predicted in the first week of 2023 in Texas and Oklahoma.

If shivering is not your thing, head west. The Almanac forecasts continued drier than normal conditions across the parched Southwest and Intermountain West while the Pacific Northwest is tabbed as "brisk" but with normal precipitation. That would make for a wet winter as "normal" winter is the wettest time of the year up there.

NOAA: Agree to disagree on winter forecast

Which is predicting a greater-than-average chance of a warm winter across the Southwest, Southern Plains and the entire Eastern Seaboard.

On the other hand, it's the Pacific Northwest leaning toward another chilly winter.

The Farmers' Almanac's shiver-fest forecast is in conflict with NOAA's current winter forecast.
 
Just found this article in the PNAS, its premise is of course AGW. But the interesting part is the justification for the research, which is the evaluation of truly catastrophic scenarios, which they call "Climate Endgame".

On the same paper
"Climate Endgame • Exploring catastrophic climate change scenarios"

also participated (among other) Swedish Johan Rockström, now working at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research outside of Berlin. In the Swedish Alternative media, he is known to be one of the worst Climate Change fear mongers with his extreme scare articles and blatant climate lies channeled via DN.se and SvD.se (two of the leading mainstream newspapers in Sweden) :rolleyes:


On a different note :nuts:

I found that little note from a 2009 Swedish article which I remember back then, was so strange. Pär Holmgren, was one of our most beloved TV meteorologists for many years, uttering something which felt so... out of alignment strange (even for a politically totally asleep guy like me back then)

He said: "I would quickly eliminate all elections"

TV-Meteorolog Pär Holmgren, nowadays top candidate for the Green Party for the EU parliament, answered 2009 to the question, what he would do if he would become Swedish Prime minister.
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